Watch Dogs 2 has a better open world than GTA V and Skyrim

I believe in what I say and I make the following statement with complete certainty: Watch Dogs 2 has the best open world ever. Better than Skyrim. Better than Grand Theft Auto V.

[Cappacudds]

I'm convinced

[Genuine-User]

I can't say that just yet while comparing it to GTAV. And Skyrim isn't my thing, I found it really boring.

That said, Watch Dogs 2 is rich with detail and character interaction/conversation. Here's a small clip that I captureed on the Pro last night: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Ricegum]

That's too good!

"I'll give you a crazy hobo!"

Honestly though, you can hate Ubisoft for some of the rubbish they put out there at times, but Watch Dogs 2 is a very impressive game with such amazing detail.

[Meltic]

Skyrim is the most played the game ever. That and fallout is huuuuge

[mikeslemonade]

Nice. And I live in this city. Can't wait to play the free version on PC.

[starchild]

@mikeslemonade

Yeah way to screw over the developers who worked so hard making this game. Yet you can't wait to play it.

I play on PC and I buy all my games. To do otherwise wouldn't be right.

[KillBill]

Just not seeing the same volume as GTA V though. The random events in GTA V are just so great. Not seeing the same type of interactivity in what I have seen from Watchdogs 2 yet.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Don't be! No one does open world better than Rockstar. R* does open world where you can literally live in and explore after you beat the game. Others do Open world great, but once you beat the game there's no reason to stay in

I mean cmon guys! The first Watch Dogs was touted as GTA killer. How did that work out? As cute as this Open world is, it is still missing that R* magic. Thus it will never be better

Let's just stop comparing Underdogs to Juggernauts to sorta give the lesses games an edge. People just like to try to give popular stuff a hard time these days...

[KosherNostra]

Please, tell me more about a game you've never played.

[thepluggy]

GT5 had the worst map in the entire series..a massive mountain and lake that took up neatly half of it.lol

[Sm3000]

Damn bruh, how come u don't like R* so much

[_-EDMIX-_]

Even as a huge rock star fan that owns the majority of their games I don't know if I would have great so that.

I would say Bethesda and now CD projekt Red sort of make the best open World Games in regards to all the interconnectivity you have with NPCs.

I like knowing that the characters that you meet live in the areas there, they eat there ,they work there ,their business and Community is in those locations in GTA it's not really the case..

When I randomly kill someone in GTA I don't believe that a quest line was removed or that a business has just lost its owner or anything like that.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the GTA franchise but a GTA game that had an open-world similar to the Elder Scroll series with easily be one of the greatest open world games ever made..

Ie I randomly robbed a shot and killed its owner now the shop is closed down or a family member takes over the shop.

That is something that actually happens in the Elder Scrolls series that is something that does not happen in Grand Theft Auto what would be absolutely amazing if it did.

Open world in regards to Features has very little to do with size and everything to do with what can I do and how can I interact with the world.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah Rockstars worlds feel so lived in oh wait in gta 5 you can't even go in like 99 percent of the buildings lol. Seriously I love Rockstar open worlds especially rdr but I'm getting really tired of them barely having any buildings to go in when ubisoft,cdpr etc have almost every building able to be entered which makes the world feel more real and lived in.

[Count_Bakula]

Rockstar's open world MATCHES their game is the thing too. Watch Dogs isn't the complete package because some hipster douche wreaking havok in streets, murdering hundreds doesn't make sense or fit. GTA is satire so it's accepted. You can suspend disbelief, of course, but that's where Watch Dogs fails in my opinion.

[Starman69]

Believe u me. Wd2 on pro kills gta5 console version. Goood game man!!

[CrimzonRazor]

never liked gta, their sense of humor ruins their games

[Ashby_JC]

You also need to take into account that GTA 5 released 3 years ago!!!

So I would hope that newer games can beat it as far as immersion and such.

[SirBradders]

True and factor in that it was made primarily of rather ps360 first you can't knock it.

[Jon_Targaryen]

Awesome point, it took other developers 3 years to do what R* did on last gen technology and the limitations that came with it.. Never thought of it that way...

[showtimefolks]

if that's the case than why is WD2 so boring

that's right it's ubi they use the same features in all their games

[notachance]

better than witcher 3 really?

[oasdada]

The moment I was riding a trail bike off road, hit a rock, got my bike flying off in an akward,unrealistic Nd buggy manner, hit the grass and saw sparks coming out and the bike making soind like it hit a bloody metal pavement.. it just took me out of it. Sometimes its the little things

[-Foxtrot]

The fact is both games still hold up compared to it and they are old games from years ago...hell last gen even.

[Smitty2020]

am replaying skyrim and still think it's amazing

[The 10th Rider]

I'm playing it really for the first time (on PC with graphics mods.) I've played it before at a friend's house, but I picked it up for myself for like $5 a few months back.

It felt kind of overrated. I mean I do get the appeal, and I'm still playing it, but I guess I'd say the only part that stands out as exceptional is the world and just how much is in it. Outside of that, combat is okay, not bad but not great. Graphics are eh. The story is, at best, alright. The interface is atrocious on PC (thankfully mods fix that easily.) There's very little in the individual components that's really standout. The thing that makes it great is how the pieces come together to make an addictive game with massive amounts of content. . . However, I don't think it deserves a pass on the meh parts if the game.

[A2X_]

People make some damn stupid comparisons these days. I understand comparing Watch dog's 2 open world to GTA V but Skyrim? Skyrim's world has a very different feeling, no modern citys, cars etc. Not even comparable.

You could definitely compare Skyrim to Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 but comparing it to GTA and Watch dogs is pretty dumb.

[kevnb]

even then morrowind had the best world, too bad a lot of the rough edges will keep many people from playing.

[TheFirstClassic]

Morrowind wasn't as big but was definitely the best. It was so densley packed with things to discover, and all the locations felt varied, something I can't say about current open worlds. Anyone with a pc should give the morrowind graphics overhaul a go, it makes the game much easier to get into.

[sullynathan]

morrowind had a shit world with poor open world elements and is overrated to hell. Gothic 2 and GTA Vice City did open world back then far better. Morrowind is a classic example of rose tinted glasses covering the shit that the game had.

[Allsystemgamer]

If they modernized Morrowind...I'd lose my mind.

Loved that game. The combat was silly but it's lore and amount of mission variety, weapon types armors...insane for the time.

[Princess_Pilfer]

@sullynathan

It really doesn't. It's not that morrowind is perfect and some things (like NPCs who stand stock still behind a counter 24/7) show their age, but it is a very good open world. It's not a sandbox or an "open" world that effectively level gates most of itself to control progression (so if that's what you're looking for then you're looking in the wrong place) but that doesn't somehow make it bad. It's more hub-based where at any given time your quests and exploration center around a hub-area (usually a city or town) and you range farther and farther away from those places as you get to know the lay of the land, then it sends you to a new area to repeat this process until evenually the main quest says "we've spend the last 30 hours teaching you how to navigate this world using landmarks, memory and written directions and now we're sending you to the middle of nowhere and asking you to put those skills to good use."

[sullynathan]

Morrowind is a sandbox like the TES games before and after it. It just isn't as good as people think it is.

[Bigpappy]

Yeah. I used to go to work and talk about things I did in MORROWIND like it was real life.
@sullynathan: If you are comparing Morrowind to GTA, you complete played it wrong, didn't play Morrowind or maybe did a speed run. You had to live in that world. You had to find your way using the compass, no lines showing you the way; You had to train in your chosen fighting style to be effective (that's why many of you could never hit a darn thing with your big swords); You needed to capture souls to do enchantments and pay to travel; Money was very important and you needed to work, kill or steal to get some; There was no auto-leveling to match NPC or weapons. You had to get the right training or you die on the spot if you couldn't avoid a powerful NPC. You were genuinely scared to go in to certain areas, and you avoided many NPC until you were well trained and equipped.
None of that is relevant to GTA and there is a lot more I didn't get into.

[sullynathan]

@Bigpappy Guess what also had all that with reactive AI and an actual great world too? Gothic fucking 1& 2. Gothic 1 & 2 didn't have the shit combat of morrowind either.

[Nivekki]

Gothic 2 was shit.

[spicelicka]

Not to mention it was released 6 years ago on last gen platforms.

[ps360s]

that's so true...

Not sure why people mention R or GTA5 or Skyrim

Just play the damn games and enjoy them!

never knew this kind of fanboys/girls existed!

I see how some comments are so ridiculous...

what is out now and are good, is worth playing...past games are past (good or bad)

I never compare, I just play any games that are good and enjoy them

[Tankbusta40]

I doubt it, nice cry for attention with an edgy title though

[SilverDemon]

Haven't bought watch dogs2 yet but the original's world felt for alive than gta5
People were rapping, car accident happens and people would get out and start fighting, random thefts happens, you can see couples fighting and much more

I don't remember anything happens to the NPCs in gta5

[starrman1985]

I read "DC movies are more enjoyable than Marvel ones" and that immediately made his opinion invalid to me.

[pandatomsk]

lol

[mochachino]

The Chistian Bale batman movies were pretty good and the first one is generally regarded as one of the best movies in the last 20 years.

[WeAreLegion]

*second one

[starrman1985]

I don't consider them true DC movies (because they're good...)

[kevnb]

Christopher Nolan directed those movies, and they actually gave him some control!

[The 10th Rider]

It's too bad the trilogy ended with such a low note. Otherwise it could have gone down as one of the top movie trilogies for its era.

[CrimzonRazor]

Bale is a asshole

[lipton101]

Avengers were awful. Captain America and Days of future past were the only good marvel movies. As far as D.C. Films, TDK trilogy immediately invalidates your opinion, TDK is one of the best films ever made, not just superhero movie.

Not to mention Watchmen which was absolutely stunning. Even Man of Steel had more going for it than the 2 dimensional marvel movies. I can comfortably say that Marvel has better TV shows vs D.C. though. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and daredevil beat the hell out of Gotham and Flash

[The 10th Rider]

I agree marvel movies are two dimensional. I honestly can't sit through them anymore, but I can understand why others find them enjoyable. They make good popcorn flicks. However when it comes to DC, one or two good outliers doesn't excuse the absolutely unbearable rest of DC's cinematic universe. I'm so done with super hero movies until someone gives us something unique. Wonder Woman looks interesting, but it'll probably just be more of the same so I'm not getting my hopes up.

[CrimzonRazor]

watchmen was pure trash worst movie of all time

[starrman1985]

So we have TDK trilogy, they are amazing but also happened before the whole Marvel vs DC crap so I don't really count them! Then we have....

Superman Returns
Watchmen
Green Lantern
Man of Steel (I quite enjoyed that)
BvS
Suicide Squad

I think if someone paid me to sit through the majority of them I'd decline!

Marvel might be comical flicks, but they're great fun and some of the Captain America films have a more serious note too, they have their bad ones but noway near train wrecks that some of DC's have achieved!

[Goldby]

@Starman,

Forgot V for Vendetta and RED/RED2

[C-H-E-F]

click bait, dont do it WD2 does look awesome n its has an interesting open world but even GTASA as far as open world was better than this. I feel disconnected with the world, perhaps because after 4 hours in im still hitting the wrong buttons to control my character? why would they switch controls then give you crappy custom options switching between this n mafia 3 is very annoying anyways... this open world compares to mafia 3 tbh

[Goldby]

If you are playing on ps4. Do a custom mapping for your controls

@Unholy
I did forget

[UnHoly_One]

People forget that you can do that on Xbox One as well. And no you don't need the Elite Controller.

[C-H-E-F]

Yeah, you're right. I forgot all about that. hmm well when i get home i'll try to remedy my complaint.

Side note: I love controlling the police vehicles remotely it's so hilarious.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

How can you feel disconnected from watchdogs 2 world did you even play the game bro. The gta series has some of the biggest disconnect to their world's

[C-H-E-F]

Why is it whenever a person disagrees with a game, they all of a sudden don't have it. My PSN name is the same, look me up check my stats... I own every game that came out this year that's relevant. YES I PLAYED IT. and this is how I feel, so freaking what it's my opinion you have yours. Sheeesh I swear people are so uptight if you don't agree with them all of a sudden you're a liar and don't have the game and blah blah. Really get over it it's my opinion. The game is still fun, just this author is doing a bit much with it. It's not that awesome.

[Gitgud]

"Watch Dogs 2 has the best open world ever." Really? It may be better than Skyrim and GTA, but the "best" open world is a stretch.

[zaherdab]

So what's the best open world ever ?

[Gitgud]

idk, that's not for me to say.

[-Gespenst-]

It certainly looks pretty impressive. Shame it's used for more of the same though. How about more open world games that don't revolve around shooting / killing people? I'd like to see more adventure-oriented open world games rather than action-oriented ones.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

You can pretty much play the whole game without using guns or killing anyone did you even play the game

[-Gespenst-]

No, I didn't play it, but I read about it and I know that there's a stealth option and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an action-oriented game rather than an adventure-oriented one.

[Enigma_2099]

Le's do this again when GTA VI comes out.

[mogwaii]

LOL, great joke.

[madworld]

Indeed it has amazing leaving breathtaking world trust me on in this guys..

[cyber_daemonx]

Yeah but is it a better game though. Doubtful.

[mezati99]

watch dogs 2 look like a ghost town compared to GTAV

[sullynathan]

yeah, sure. I like to hear that they have fixed certain things from WD1 but lets not get ahead of ourselves here and say its open world is better than those games. Certain things you mentioned sounded problematic.

[yeahokwhatever]

It's been a while since I've had this much fun just watching people interact with each other on the street.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean I would assume a game that released after those games would have a better open world in regards to specific features.

Gaming is sort of naturally Progressive in that respect.

[WeAreLegion]

I'll believe it when I play it. GTA V was packed with activities and personality.

[Realms]

As much as I love Rockstar games GTAV seemed like they where going through the paces, nothing really pops out in terms of game play or story wise. IMO CD Project Red killed it with the witcher 3 in terms of getting lost in an open world I have yet to get that type of feeling from Rockstar since Vice City. I might pick up watch dogs 2 to see what all this hoopla is about this game.

[Redx165]

I got that feeling with Red Dead Redemption.

GTA SA was the last GTA game I could get lost in.

[Darkspade]

The first car hack as to be the funniest thing in a long time. Just saying

[PiperMCFierceson]

Both games are last gen, so I would hope.

[KryptonKronos]

Bolox to that, i thought The Witcher 3 was the best open world game i've ever played.

[ClayRules2012]

Watch Dogs 2 certainly looks great, graphically.

Having said that, "in my opinion" GTAV is the most believable, lifelike, natural, living-breathing open world game I've ever played. The Witcher 3 is my favorite open world game to have explored tho.

[Ashby_JC]

GTA 5 released 3 years ago (Sept 17 2013).....on the xbox 360 and PS3 at that. What they did with that old tech was and is amazing.

So lets see what Rockstar does with there next GTA game on xbox one, PS4, PS4 Pro, XBOX scorpio.

[ape007]

skyrim definitely, gta v........ i'd like to have what ur smoking

[SarcasticDuck]

i won't mention Skyrim since it's not my thing, but wow an open world game from the current gen. surpassed the world of GTAV which has 3 years and it was made for the last gen. This shouldn't be something new, Ubisoft may have a lot of problems, but making beautiful open worlds ain't one

[Starman69]

This game on ps4 pro is sooo good, its silly!!! Above expectations. Ign need to put out 9.4 i think. What a console!!

[Pancit_Canton]

We'll see if Red Dead Redemption 2 can change all of that.

[thegamefox93]

Best open world games this gen (From what open-world games I've played)

1)Witcher III
2)MGS V
3)The Witness
4)Infamous: Second Son
5)Arkham Knight
6)Shadow of Mordor

* not incuding semi-open world, metroidvania and remaster/re-release

[Redx165]

The only good one on that list is Witcher 3.

I think Fallout 4 has some great open world design. I think it deserves a spot over Infamous Second Son and Arkham Knight.

[thegamefox93]

"From what open world games I'v played"

[thegamefox93]

I haven't played fallout 4, but most people agree its a slight dissapointment, especially compared to Fallout 3.

I'm not sayng all the games I've listed are "amazing". I'm just ranking them...

If you think Witcher 3 is the only good open world game from that list, what woud you replace #2-#6 with? lol

[Redx165]

Fallout 4 was a much better game compared to 3.

Now Fallout 4 is a disappointment if you compare it to New Vegas.

Honestly I would only put Witcher 3 as the open world game to beat.

MGS V is a laughable open world game full of extreme repetition.

[Redx165]

Watch Dogs 2 world is dead. You telling a city like SF has a scarce population like that?

[solideagle]

skyrim is one hell of a boring game ever in my opinion. :D

[thegamefox93]

Oblivion and fallout 3 were so much better when they came out!! That's when Bethesda (as a developer) was at its prime...

I honestly prefer, bethesda "published only" games now...

[solideagle]

I think if they nail their gameplay next game can be special

[JackBNimble]

Bullshit, you are totally welcome to your own opinion and may not be a fan of GTA 5 or Skyrim, but there is no way Watch Dogs 2 has a better open world then either of these games especially GTA 5.

[susanto1228]

Does it have an "arrow in the knee?" then it's not better than skyrim.

[Findingcrybabies]

If it has "Ubisoft" on the box you can bet your ass its rushed, half finished, and broken as all hell. It will NOT be better than GTA. In fact the regular game will be as broken as GTA Online was when it released

[quent]

Comparing it with Skyrim..., why not throw witcher 3 in there as well ?

[zodiac909]

Seeing that it's made by Ubisoft, a company that cares more about quantity than quality *cough* Assassin's Creed...there is no way they will ever top Rockstar, or even Bethesda for that matter.

[NeoGamer232]

GTA V and Skyrim are 3 and 5 year old games. WD2 better have a better open world.

[Tallpine]

Great, good for watch dogs... is that all?

[3-4-5]

Wait so this one is actually worth playing ? The first one looked so bland and boring to me.

I'll have to watch a few more gameplay videos.

[Jon_Targaryen]

Of course its better... It's got naked people walking around!!!

[Lionsguard]

Blasphemer! May Talos smite you!

[NextGenCeo]

I don't put GTA 5 and any Ubisoft shit side by side! Specialy Watch Dogs. I hate Ubisoft and their stupid copy paste games.
By the way I m not a GTA fan i did not even beat last GTA 5 game.
(ESL guy so sorry for English)

[Jon61586]

I liked all three games and have put in 100s of hours in GTA and skyrim I think each does something different. Skyrim has the most amount of quests or side missions GTA v has a intriguing story and I'm just getting into WD2

[SuperbVillain]

Well it bstter. Gtav is how many years old now? Like 3? But its ubisoft so i doibt its better

[BrettAwesome]

Jim Beam sucks

[noksucow73]

Yeah, but trying running that on 360/ps3 hardware like gta5 did. Rockstar did wonders With being able to pull gta5 off the way they did on the 360 and Ps3 .

[Monkeycan8]

GTA V isn't as good as people remember it. It took many steps back and this is coming from a grand theft auto fanboy.