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Game Tester Fired For Going On Record About Xbox 360 Defects

VentureBeat's Dean Takahashi recently published an exhaustive history of the manufacturing issues that have surrounded the Xbox 360, resulting in still unknown numbers of defective consoles and a $1 billion price tag for Microsoft's games division. Hypersensitive readers who pined for the day when we could all just "move on" from the story weren't the only invested parties who took issue with the exposé. Microsoft fired one of its own contract employees over his participation in the story.

dktxx26126d ago

Fired for telling the truth? What a sad place this world is becoming.

mfwahwah6126d ago

Problem isn't that he told the truth, it's that he broke a contract (NDA), and that requires termination.

Getting sued though, is a bit much though. What he said has no substance as "dirt" on MS. It's simply a "This did cause RRoD, but I found the errors and reported them to MS, leading to a fix for those specific problems."

SkyGamer6126d ago

Never bite the hand that feeds you.

Seriously, is he mentally retarded in thinking he can talk smack about his employer and thinks that they will not do anything? If he does not like Microsoft, why work for them? It would be like you telling your boss for him to go $c#w himself. He/She probably isn't going to be to happy with you and you probably won't be employed much longer. Besides imagine the recommendation that they would say making it harder for him/her to get another job. Not too bright.

rroded6126d ago

meh this kind of stuff is typicla in the big corps...

Sad tho that you can get fired for telling it like it is

tho that molson guy who got fired for having a pic in the paper holding a bud was sadder.

StephanieBBB6126d ago

It's amazing how bill gates can sleep at night knowing which kind of jacka**es he has left behind to run microsoft. If I was billgates I would fire all of those socially retarded monkeys and hire some people that can run a corporation without cheating/lying/boasting. Then maybe, and just MAYBE people will start trusting in the products again.

EL MAESTRO6125d ago

sorry dude but thats how it is. every single company does this. its sad yes but nintendo, sony MS and every single company in the world lies. its about making money not about giving the best. Do the math they got a head start, making tons of money, even after rrod they still have millions of dollars of profit. any company would have done the same if you still make money who cares what the consumer says or feels. I have a 360 and I'm fine with it. I suggest you dont get attach (loyal) to any company cuz theyre not loyal to you. I leaned my lesson with sony. Never be loyal to anyone.

STIKUP ARTIST6125d ago

He's a snitch. Cant have those on your team.

dle6125d ago

This is not about telling the truth, but it is all about loyalty and protecting the image of the "hand that feed you". All companies keep certain quality control issues from the public. If Microsoft built a hidden routine to steal user confidential data in the system, then it maybe appropriate to go forward. But for this it is hardly appropriate. If this employee is not punished, all hell will break loose at every major corporation on earth.

JoySticksFTW6125d ago

M$ would love nothing better to get rid of the faulty hardware RROD stigma. Heck, they didn't even want to admit it in the first place.

I believe that M$ has been trying very hard to eliminate the RROD issue and it's been paying off with some people believing that the RROD problems were only in the earlier units and are now a thing of the past.

You may have to fire the guy, but suing him just brings him and his admissions about the hardware defects to light again. You have media members already clinging to this story. Big mistake on M$'s part for letting anything related to hardware defects make the headlines.

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Freezingduck6126d ago (Edited 6126d ago )

"He was quoted by VentureBeat on two separate "red ring of death" scenarios, one that could be triggered by a reproduceable crash , citing NBA 2K6, and another related to dashboard update bugs with Capcom's Dead Rising."

So he lost ~two months (or how ever long it takes to call, get send a package, pack your box, send out your box, wait for repair, wait for it to get sent back and do again) without his Xbox360 while having to pay for LIVE, sounds like a reasonable complaint

InfiniteUnfloppery6126d ago

We here at Sony will gladly employ the Fired Microsoft Employee,we believe he will make a Great Public Speaker on the Effects of Associating one self with a Flop Corporation and a Flop Product.

theKiller6126d ago

they r using the same policy the american government use in the war of iraq and Afghanistan which hide and deceive people by controlled information and news!

Microsoft = G.W. Bush = must go down!

v1c1ous6126d ago

you want a guy who breaks NDAs and blabs sensitive company information to the media working for Sony?

you didn't think that comment through much did you

SteveBallmer SonyRep6126d ago

God my old company suks the only reason i stayed was that Bill Gates had a big c0ck

TheOtherGuy6126d ago

uUuUmm you didnt READ his comment through did YOU?!?!? "....we believe he will make a Great Public Speaker.... " kinda self-owned urself since you didnt READ that part of his comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JoySticksFTW6125d ago

"I wonder if they like taped a pic of the RROD on his cubical or something to let him know he was fired.

::Sees red ring picture:: "What the fvck?"
::Flips over:: "YOU'RE FIRED" "

Funny stuff right there :)

Pain6125d ago

and breaking it will do that.

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Freezingduck6126d ago (Edited 6126d ago )

It's just stupid, getting fire for telling the truth - I mean he wasn't bashing on the Xbox360 saying "OMFGBBQXBOXSUCKS," he was just sharing his "factual" experiences.

Sympathy.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola11d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion10d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola9d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin9d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola9d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop9d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel19d ago (Edited 9d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola8d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel18d ago (Edited 7d ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris11d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK9d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds9d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar9d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy9d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel19d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola11d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer10d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused9d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion10d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher10d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer9d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion9d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola9d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje10d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola9d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused9d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno10d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool10d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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