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Xbox Scorpio will bring “Really True 4K” in their games

Aaron Greenberg, head of marketing of Xbox, has offered interesting statements during the FanFest brand held in Mexico. Among them, he commented that Xbox Scorpio, the new console from Microsoft, will offer "really true 4K" in games.

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moegooner882802d ago (Edited 2802d ago )

Must be driving MS and Greenberg nuts seeing how well the Pro is doing. How many times will they have to repeat this over the coming year ? Pro will probably get a price cut by then. Good luck.

Abash2802d ago

Well that's what happens you basically say "Our answer to the competition is a year away from when they launch their machine".

Gazondaily2802d ago

What's wrong with that? If the result is doing 4K properly then so be it.

Can Sony guarantee 4K native for ALL its first-party games? 🤔

Their answer to the competition, regardless of the year 'delay' is a good one just on that basis no?

christocolus2801d ago

@Abash

So? Don't they have a right to talk about the features of their upcoming console at their own event?

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XStation4pio_Pro2801d ago

yeah but its technically superior on every level. I bought a ps4 pro and I'm super impressed with it but it only feeds my excitement more to have a machine thats even more powerful

Automatic792801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

@Abash

You can give Sony a free pass when it comes to game delays, specifically, commenting that you rather they delay a game to polish it.

Surely you can give a free pass to the Xbox Scorpio and allow for MS to polish and fine tune all the features for true 4K gaming, VR experiences, Bac Compat, Ultra HD Blueray and fine tune Xbox Live for all the beautiful bells and whistles that will be ready on day one.

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XanderZane2801d ago

Sony said the same thing with the PS3. No different really. I don't see the problem.

TKCMuzzer2801d ago

@ Septic
Actually, proper 4K would be at 60FPS if we are being nitpicky. Microsoft are in a tricky position because they are almost selling the Scorpio as their next generation of console but then they say they don't want to split their user base. The problem is by the time the Scorpio gets going we all know the next PS will be on the horizon pretty much forcing MS to make exclusives for the Scorpio to compete, pretty much killing the Xbox One in the process (well unless they do that earlier, which lets be honest, they could well do).
With 4K taking so much power just to hit the resolution natively, how much more juice is left to produce better effects. There are more powerful PC's out there already at levels the Scorpio won't hit.
Maybe both companies should have waited until it would have been a real jump in power, yes 4K, 60 FPS with power to spare. It's all a bit of an in between at the moment to be honest.

kassler2801d ago

Interesting that he uses "really true" 4K instead of Native 4K.

_-EDMIX-_2801d ago

@Sep- "Can Sony guarantee 4K native for ALL its first-party games?" Can MS?

Neither can guarantee that because developers make games, consoles don't. Seriously bud, read up on why a game runs a resolution as your post sound very uneducated. How can Sony or MS or ANYONE know I'm making a game that is extremely demanding, with HUGE textures and tessellation?

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bouzebbal2801d ago

Septic smh -_-
It's much more than just 4K for every single game.
The question is: which games??
3 years now and we have seen nothing crazy on this console. How could you be so sure next console will guarantee proper games for the console?
scorpio will deliver 4K, we all know that. But they have everything to prove in the games department. People are insecure about this brand, more than before because they had nothing else to do than release a more powerful console.
I think they should have make a more powerful X1S on par with Pro and invest money in making games.
Power is just a small factor in the equation.

Reckless_Love2801d ago

The thing is, and I'm a PlayStation guy really, that Microsoft is primed to put out a superior machine on all the fronts that matter.

Sony made a choice to clearly display this a mid cycle evolution and as a result it's not a particularly substantial boost in the power required to truly be upping the games.

But the choice to not have a UHD blu ray reader is a bit problematic. Especially when MS are going to be bringing out a games system that aims for true native 4k worth a great power boost, a 4k disc reader and hopefully bitstream support before release.

I hope they get framerates locked up on it because the Pro coming out lesser than Base hardware is for now largely disappointing.

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TankCrossing2801d ago

@Edmix Of course they can make guarantees about the features of first party games. You need to read up on the role of a publisher :-/

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Sitdown2801d ago

Shin-Zantetsuken
You do realize there was rumblings about Scorpio well before Neo.... And then they announced it first at their conference. Ahhh, but the heck with facts, it doesn't fit your story line.

Orbilator
Why is it vaporware, because you don't have your hands on it? You think things just go poof, and then are on there store shelf the next day. Your post is desperation..... Microsoft doesn't need to beat Sony in order to be profitable, but of course you probably can't grasp that. Console wars stress for fanboys, profits are for the businesses.

Realms2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

@Septic

Right!! because MS can do 4K correctly. LOL MS has a history of promising the moon and falling short!! The power of the cloud. LOL If they get right it will awesome but they are constantly making promises only to fail, and yes they gave gamers more options but it wasn't until their console was turning into vaporware selling it so cheap that many gamers picked one up. It's all about pricing if this thing comes out and is the most powerful console but the price isn't right it will fail Sony learned that the hard way as did Sega with the Saturn and the NEO GEO. A 500 or higher console will be a hard sell specially because at that point you could start thinking about building a PC now that their games are also on PC.

Kingthrash3602801d ago

Here we go with "true 4k" again...but now it's "really true 4k"...since native 4k is on the pro already they need to add a buzz word to keep the scorpio hype train going lol. So I ask again....what is "really true 4k"?

strifeblade2801d ago

i dont know why people sugar coat this but whether or not the ps4 runs 4k on games it will never run nearly as good as the scorpio when the scorpio has 6TF and the PS4 has 4. If that game runs 4k on ps4 it thats fine but you cant deny the fact with all the extra power under the scorpio it is goin to run and look that much better.

Ju2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

If MS forces the devs to run every "native" pixel in 4K then the Scorpio will run into the same performance problems as the pro with the stupid 4K downsample to 1080p crap which is going on.

The Scorpio will run games better and faster than the Pro at 40% higher resolution. But if MS does not include something similar like checkerboard, that will require much more bandwidth than those 40% to achieve the same result.

Scorpio games will do the exact same thing, also supporting dynamic resolution, hitting higher resolutions than the Pro, of course, and hitting "real" 4K more often.

The point will be, though, will it matter? More and more developers employing dynamic resolution scaling and in he worst case the Pro renders 1440p @ 60fps and the Scorpio those 40% more which will get you closer to 2160p. You can hope that Pro games will get closer to 1600p or 1800p - which will allow MS give bragging rights to shout "real 4k" - because that's what those games will be able to do when you have 40% more power.

But that's it. And then we will have all this pixel counting and arguing why one can see 2160p over a 1800p game on tiny micro pixels on a 55" screen over a distance of a living room. Happy times ahead.

There is nothing "more" real with the Scorpio than there is on the Pro, just another (smaller) step into a even faster machine.

Christopher2800d ago (Edited 2800d ago )

@Septic: Where did Abash say it was wrong?

@christocolus: Where did Abash say they didn't have the right to talk about the features of their upcoming console?

@MichaelLito79: Where in Abash's post did he say MS couldn't do anything or that Sony couldn't do anything about delaying for improvements? Why did you even make this about Sony fans doing something versus them doing anything else?

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All of you are jumping the gun and adding in what isn't there. Almost as if you're being overly defensive. Or just treating a simple comment of MS doing exactly what they are doing as a derisive comment. It is a comment that says exactly what MS is doing, nothing else, nothing more.

Gazondaily2800d ago

@Christopher

"@Septic: Where did Abash say it was wrong? "

I didn't say it was wrong. I asked him a question. It appears that he is implying that it is a negative. He could simply answer "nothing wrong with it at all".

"It is a comment that says exactly what MS is doing, nothing else, nothing more."

Do you want to read the comment to which he is replying to? It might add some context to you.

DAEMONIFEAR2800d ago

Sony can't guarantee first party titles in native 4K I personally would have prefered Sony waited out the year also..

But their need to rush the pro will show to me that they expect to try keep momentum going on sales but truth is it's slowed down a lot for a while now..psvr and the pro won't change that

Christopher2800d ago (Edited 2800d ago )

***Do you want to read the comment to which he is replying to? It might add some context to you.***

Of course. What does Moe thinking the success of Pro (debatable) must drive MS and Greenberg nuts have anything to do with Abash saying what he did that would lead you to even thinking he was saying anything was wrong with it at all?

Again, I fall back on being defensive as the reason for such responses.

Fact is, MS is saying what they are now to remind people during the PS4 Pro's release and upcoming big Holiday Season that they can wait one year for a better machine.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, but that's exactly what they are doing. Just like how they chose to wait a year to put out a more powerful machine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I posted a while ago how both decisions are probably the most competitive decisions between Sony and MS we've ever seen, and this is how it is played out. Sony has the advantage of early release with slight improvements over current machines on the market. They get one full year of advantage here, though more than likely only about 9 months until E3. Whereas once Scorpio is out, that's it. It takes the power crown. And guess what Sony is going to do then? They're going to make it about price. The exact same thing MS is doing right now with the Xbox One S.

So, when Abash says what he did, that is absolutely what MS is also saying and it's the negative element that Microsoft has to deal with now. How are they dealing with it? By saying a ton of stuff about Scorpio without any true details other than "it's going to be better than what you have now." It is also the ONLY advantage Sony truly has, the one year head start. And once it's gone, it's gone.

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sammarshall1022802d ago

The reception to the Pro hasn't been the greatest

King_Lothric2801d ago (Edited 2801d ago )

That's according to Xbox Fanboys but here, let's take a look at reality:

PS4 console sales up 204% following Pro launch.
http://n4g.com/news/1983343...

Razzer2801d ago

But that is coming from you so....it must be doing awesome.

Death2801d ago

204% week over week is impressive. The Xbox One S was 1000% the same week it released owning over 70% market share for the reported period. Without knowing what the actual sales are, the percentages don't tell us much other than It's an upwards trend.