Heavy Rain play target is "8-12 hours," says Cage

Speaking to VG247 at Games Convention, Quantic Dream boss David Cage said a single walk through of top drawer PS3 thriller Heavy Rain is likely to take no more than 12 hours.

[Fishy Fingers]

Short, but luckily there are countless ways to play through it. To the extent that you should never have the same experience twice (although many developers claim this, Heavy Rain is a game that might actually deliever on it).

[LikAChicken]

true but they better if they are going to go for people's wallets. There is probably no multi player(maybe), so they should definitely work on re playability for this game

[INDIGO_CYCLOPS]

does EVERY game this gen have to have multiplayer? Tell me, how would multiplayer even begin to make sense in a game like this. Quit it with the multiplayer nonsense. If people want an interesting storyline and game mechanics (catered to an adult audience as well), they can pick this up. If not, their loss!

[Tarasque]

Ok well they won't get my money, another PS3 rental for me. Seems like a bad trend to me. Heavenly Sword beat in a little over 7 hours, Uncharted beat in over 7 hours, MGS4 beat in a little over 10 hours, GT5P beat in a little over 3 hours. While the gaming is good the short time's are the worst i have seen for exculsive's.

[Omega4]

The only reason multiplayer is important this gen is because games are so expensive to buy

Whos willing to pay £50 or $60 for an 8hr game?

[Le-mo]

I don't get people obsession with multiplayer this gen. They seem to forget that not EVERY game needs multiplayer. Next thing you know people will demand multiplayer for action adventure, JRPG's, and WRPG's...oh wait.

[Montrealien]

About the same as Fahrenheit and that Works for me. I can't wait to play this game.

@Omega

I pay 10$ for a 1-2 hour movie in the theater, not counting the restaurant ect. For me, if a game is around ten hours it means it cost me 6$ an hour to entertain myself and that is money well spent imho. And if there is a good replay value it gets even cheaper. In other words, I am willing to pay 60$ for a ten hour game.

[Daver]

I dont get the multiplayer thing... I prefer paying 60$ for a good single player experience than have a boring and repetitive multiplayer ( dont get me wrong some games that has multiplayer are fun but dont need this mode in every game)

[Popeye]

It's not so much multiplayer as it is value. I really don't know how or if MP could work in Heavy Rain. But MP generaly adds many hours of game time to a title. Imo an 8-12 hour SP experience is a flat rental (why spend $65 when you can have the exact same experience for $5). 20+ hour SP is a definate purchase if I'm interested and the reviews are good. If you want to buy that amount of game time, then don't worry about it, just buy it. But not everyone looks at it the way you do.

[Xakep]

To everyone clamouring for multiplayer, can you please tell me how the F*CK you'd expect MP to work in Heavy Rain?

[HighDefinition]

Let me put it this way......SHADOW OF TTHE COLOSSUS can be beaten in about 4HRS. That doesn`t stop it from being the BEST GAME I played on PS2.

EDit: Omega
This game seems VERY replayable, from what we`ve heard.

http://www.videogaming247.c...

[Omega4]

But it didnt cost £50 or $60 did it, not to mention i think it had a time attack mode as well

All i know is this game better have an extensive reply value or not only will the reviews suffer but so will it sales since everyone will just rent it instead

[SL1M DADDY]

Need to set the game on hard and get the full experience. Too many folks complain about games being too short but then tell ya they didn't get all the extras in the game or had it set on normal mode. Sorry, but 12 hours is plenty for me and as part of a large demographic, I do not have time to spend 40 hours on one game for every release out there. A 12 hour stint is nice and it enables me to see the game from start to finish before the next big release comes out.

[AAACE5]

Yet if this game were on the 360, people would find every way possible to cut it down (like Gears of War).

People are strange I tell ya!

[LikAChicken]

Okay indigo did I speak for everyone? I've put in many hours in Oblivion and I still haven't finished (Haven't played recently). All I'm saying is that they (like Oblivion and other games before it) should have strong replayablity value. I would like to know that I'm shelling out $60 for a game that won't just satisfy me for two days. Others may be okay with it, but personally I like replayablity.

[SL1M DADDY]

Only the fanboys would do that and you know it. This game regardless of what system it is coming out on will be good and the length is not an issue for those who like games like this.

Games that are 8 to 12 hours long are the games that the largest demographic wants. Keep the long games far and few between and let me have the ones that don't take weeks to beat.

And for the record, Gears was a decent length if played on the hardest setting - just as it should be played.

[gaffyh]

MGS1 - can be completed in 3.5 hours (or less) - still one of my favourite games ever.
Uncharted - was also about 8 hours long, completely worth buying, one of the best games this gen. Also Heavenly Sword is very underrated, it is a great game, but got bad reviews because it is short.

Heavy Rain will most likely have a lot of replayability firstly because of trophies, and secondly because it seems like you can play this game from different perspectives (David Cage said that the game continues even if the main character dies).

Also 12 hours is more than enough for single-player heavy game, personally I'd rather have a good story and no multiplayer, than a crappy story with multiplayer.

[tordavis]

If COD4 wasn't online, I would have stopped playing last year. Because of the multiplayer aspect, I haven't been able to stop playing. Talk about bang for your buck!

[BlackTar187]

How did you beat GT5P in 3 hours you have to race longer then that I mena I got first alot and 3 hrs was way out of possible for me but maybe cuz i suck. but MGS4 I also call your bluff that you beat it on your first playthorough in 10hrs. But like someone said if its so short play it on hard from the beginng lik emost people who blow thru games ive been playing on ahrd since ps1 after games got shorter but more detailed and better production.

[Tarasque]

Sorry you pay 10 bucks to go to the movies. First showing costs me 5 bucks.

@BlackTar187
Could care less if you believe me or not....

@SL1M DADDY
Start every game on hard on the 360 cause of achievements...

Some games longer than 10 hours that i own for the just the 360.
Orange box
Dead Rising
Rainbow six vegas, on hard
GTA4
Bioshock
Ninja Gaiden 2, on path of a warrior

[BlackTar187]

Its the easy way to ignore someone who calls you out. Please explain how you beat GT5P please at least in the short time you said.

Orangebox as in Episode 1 and 2 together took you over 10hrs LOL.Okay portal 2 lol okay.
Bioshock you claim you beat MGS4 in under 10hrs but couldn't beat Bioshock in under 10hrs LOL.

I wasn't calling your bluff to pick a fight I was really curious about GT5P. and a little concerned you were able to beat MGS4 so fast on your first playthorugh but struggled to beat bioshock under 10hrs is all.

People who ignore people like you did like I don't care if you believe me our not is just a cop out . I Mean be fair all you did was name the ps3 games it took you under 10 hrs and later on made a list of xbox games that took you over 10hrs and 2 of them are real questionable to someone with your skills able to beat gt5P and mgs4 in what 4 hrs andmgs under 10 is that 9hr 50mins or 8hrs or 7 hrs or maybe it will be the convient something like 9hrs and 20mins thing.

I'm not here to have a pissing contest with you tara. but your past comments reak of Bias and therfore its hard for me to take your word for it esp. since you chose to name one systems game that dont and not ones that do but sure did name your other systems game that went over 10hrs. You may and try and hide your bias but its obv.

Dead Rising=Took me 8hrs I did most stuff Extras that is.

So what Im saying and I hate defending one group to another but your list doesnt really add up you able to beat longer games shorter and shorter games longer is weird was all I wanted to point out.

[DaTruth]

I've been paying $60 for games since Sega Master System. I don't know what you guys are talking about. And I couldn't get Phantasy Star because it cost $100.

And seriously, I played MGS4 and Uncharted over 5 times each. Uncharted on crushing and MGS4 on Boss Extreme stealth take a while.

@Tara:Five of those games are on PS3 ;-)

[vickers500]

"I would like to know that I'm shelling out $60 for a game that won't just satisfy me for two days. Others may be okay with it, but personally I like replayablity."

Agreed. If it is a short, but awesome game, I will buy it later on Amazon used. Devs don't work hard enough these days, and almost all creativity has vanished.

[Tacki]

Are you saying you skipped all or most of the cutscenes in MGS4 on your first playthrough? That is the only way you could have beaten it in 10 hours.

[Willio]

"The only reason multiplayer is important this gen is because games are so expensive to buy

Whos willing to pay £50 or $60 for an 8hr game?"

Yes...Fable 1... 6hr RPG. Epic. Nuff said.

[CrazedFiend]

some of you guys seem to have no real clue about what they're trying to do with this game. Just because the story will only be 12 hours, does mean that there's only gonna be 12 hours worth of story in the game.

You forget that EVERY decision you make in this game will supposedly change the story. There's NO WAY they can do that and make the main story the epic 20+ hours some of you seem to be clamoring for.
You want a longer game? Play it a different way your second time through and you'll get something new.

OK. If it were an RPG then yeah, 8-12 would be short. But of the non-RPG games that did reach some level of popularity, how many of them were ever really any longer than that to begin with?

[vickers500]

"some of you guys seem to have no real clue about what they're trying to do with this game."

And you do?

[Tarasque]

Didn't watch a single cutscene through MGS4 and what is funny is what kind of design is flawed when you can just run through the map to load the next cutscene when enemys are chasing you. I had to only restart 2 races on GT5 took me right at 3 hours and 20 mins. So you are tealling me Half life episode 1 and 2 and portal didn't take you longer than 10 hours together, cause that was packaged as 1 game 60 bucks, understand.

[Montrealien]

Tarasque likes to go against the grain, it makes him feel special. And he is always right. yep, I was able to decipher that about his character in 2 comments. He stands out like a Giraffe in a lama farm.

[BlackTar187]

I know yo uhave no bubbles but please send me a PM or something.

Becasue No ep. 1 took me under 4 hrs and so did ep.2 portal took me about 1.5 hours.

So now on to MGS4 so you played the whole game without cutscenes and it was under 10hrs wow why'd did you even play? Seems kinda fishy to me to say the least I dont get why. are you that simple minded that all you need is a gun and nothing more and you ahve the time of your life? Not that its a bad thing on MP and singleplayer game that is just storyless is dumb and this is the problem with this new generation of gamers they have no imagination or anything point proven thanks.

now GT5p how did you beat it i call BS it doesnt make sense you ahve to race a certain amopunt of time to get cars to race the other maps are you saying you did high performance races with what? you have to get the money and I can guarntee you couldnt get the money in 3 hrs considering the short maps with the laps included plus laoding and such take about 1o mins. i dont know ther eis to many things to buy and preset limits on races until you invest enough time to get the money.

So you actually went thru the most realistic racer with a exotic or a sports car and got 1st everytime but twice. LOL you sound like you dont even know how the game works. LOL. unless you drive exotics all the time and just mastered GT of old then I call bluff. I wish it had a timer I would love to see a video with your cars selection at 3hrs 20mins. I love the 20mins line its always used its a Im lying but I cant be i said 20mins not even 3 or 4hrs I'm sorry. but you play a game by clicking thru the cutscenes in under 10hrs and claim that as what. I can beat most games after the first playthrough in 1/2 the time whats that mean you didnt play the game the way its supposed to be played and use it as fodder to support your pro one console agenda Im sorry i call lies all up and down your post and its obv. with you 3hr 20mins. all the sudden yeah I played it in a rush so its its fault it lasted under 10hrs.thats like me playing Bioshock thru using the strategy guide from the beginng and claim its a short or easy game when in reality i didnt play it right.

Im sorry but your lying and your replys feed that fire. How exactly did you get the money to race the final races in 3hrs and if you have GT5p i got it to if your that good ill take you on online.

PSN:BlackTar

If your true you should be able to beat me by such a huge margin and so easily its not even funny and I play it still a good amount with friends.

I know i cant prove it since its not tracked which is convient i guess but ask me anything.

also what was your MGS4 time? can you screen shot it and show us?
Probably not. I just want to make sure you didnt play it twice becasue if you did your statement quickly loses all creditablity .

You know what screw it half life took me anywhere betwenn 9hrs and 11 hrs. Ill be fair the #'s added up to convient on my end although i think Im right on with them I will leave room for error so you can get me on that one. See what I did there I played fair and not bias. something lets ge tyou to try and work on when making posts. : )

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Looks damn good!! But if it's true with the short gameplay, that got me a little discouraged. But I still play it.

[solidt12]

If a game does something for me that no other game does then I don't mind paying for it. This game is definately worth 60 bucks for 8-10 hours of game play. I love single player games and multi-player games but to me the best of each are the ones that are multi-player only or Single player only. The only game with both that I liked alot last year was COD4. Now Playing Warhawk, SOCOM Beta, Siren Blood Curse, GTA IV, MGS 4, and the last years bargain Orange Box.

[Sevir04]

I'm telling you Multiplayer FPS have really ruined gaming the Industry.

The only reason why you guy want multiplayer in every game this gen is because FPS developers have short changed you with games that are way too easy and short to begin with with less than steller mediocre story that only checks in under 5 hours, so because you are left with that tacked on single player you look for a multiplayer add on which only serves as as a temporary quench until another game with the same mediocre story comes along with slightly better multiplayer. it's a vicious cycle.

You all make it look like you have time to play games in one sitting.. if you do, you need to get your self a life and a job and earn some money because you shouldn't be playing games, games are ment to be expoerienced not rush. Put the damn game on Hard mode and play it the way it's meant to be played, there are enough freakin multiplayer games to last a life time and most of them are barely even memorable. The human brain is always distracted, if it aint interestib you will move on, which is why games with tacked on multiplayer rarely are any good.

yeah GTA4 i'm looking at you, tell me, Outside of RPGs and open world sandbox games if their story is any good, How long do you sit through a play agame beyond 2-4 hours in one sitting? and just how many games are their that even have 10-15 hours of gameplay. all you fanbois certainly ran up to buy Ninja Gaiden a2 and that game was only 8 hours and bioshock which was only 10 hours.

the community of fankids never cease to amaze me, You guys need to stop and evaluate yourselves, if you can get up and pay 7-10 bucks for a 2 hour movie that may suck you mean you cant pay 60 bucks ofr a good 12 hour game, they are so rare these days.

[DaTruth]

Guess you guys don't buy DVD's. Costs $25 for 11/2hr movie. Do what you do with the DVD's and watch/play it more than once.

[vickers500]

"You guys need to stop and evaluate yourselves"

So we should agree with everything you say like its the truth? Some peoples favorite games are multiplayer shooters, and that's what they like, and you are nobody to say what is good and what's not.

And by the way, BioShock is a 12+ hour game.

[Prismo_Fillusion]

Sounds fine to me! That's the equivalent of 4-5 movies and since this game is basically an interactive movie, that sounds completely reasonable.

Don't forget that you can replay it and play it in a completely different manner too! I've already played through Uncharted 2 times, and I'm on my third (I hate you Crushing, but you're my final trophy).

[Tarasque]

Man that sucks, 60 dollars will get me into the movies 12 times.

[Willio]

how is that possible? You must not live in the States because even seniors/children prices cant get that many viewings at the theatres.

[AngryXbot]

I would be concerned if this was a RPG but its not...

Nowadays most non RPGs are this short. Bioshock, COD4, gears of wars, heavenly sword, uncharted.

Flopple 2... epic failure.

[LikAChicken]

Does it really have high replayability? I mean I know if the main character dies the story will continue, but I really want this game to be epic though.

~I am a gamer...who wants chinese food~

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Heavy Rain play target is "0 hours," on the xBox 360 says Sir Ken ;)

[theKiller]

so i dont want any bot in here whining about it, on the other hand 12-15 will be more appreciated!!

the devs have 50GB so at least they should make some use of it!
i have a feeling this game will be like a movie but u r the main actor which is amazing, and considering that then 8-12 hours movie is damn great

[Xakep]

Wow, seems like there were a lot of people who saw the graphics and didn't truly know what this game was going to be about. Multiplayer is NOT needed and that play time is just perfect especially since it requires multiple playthroughs to fully get the whole storyline.

[LeShin]

I fully agree with Indigo Cyclops (Bubbles)! COD4 was 5-6 hours and that was good atmospheric game. I didn't touch the multiplayer because simply all you do is kill different people again and again and again with no reason or story. Repetitive as hell if you ask me. Now as I'm getting older, I want a good story or at least a good atmosphere (like The Darkness) in a game as incentive to keep playing not fragging millions of foes forever. (Traded Unreal Tournament 3 within a month as I thought it was meant to have a "story" but I was tricked lol)

Haven't bought an FPS since COD4 and the only ones I'm going to get next are Bioshock (for the atmosphere) Resistance 2 (For the story and unique weapons) and Killzone 2 next year just because I've played 1 and liberation and I want to see how the story finishes.

Cannot wait for Heavy Rain as Fahrenheit was fantastic!

Here's also hoping for the Darkness 2 soon.

EDIT: and @Omega4 though I know what you mean, I don't want to spend £50 or $60 on a game with next to no original engrossing story/atmosphere but with tons of repetitive multiplayer fragging either.

[himdeel]

...

[pixelsword]

if it's there, I'll get it... especially since you can play through as other characters.

[Dave2001]

I have to be honest I'm a bit disappointed i was hoping it was longer then 8-12 hours maybe around the 30 hour mark like MGS4.

Oh well doesn't really matter it's still a 1st day purchase for me.:)

[Le-mo]

No way is MGS 4 in the 30 hour mark, heck it's not even in the 20 hour mark. I've beat it 5 times (Fantastic game btw) and it took me 4 hours without watching the cutscenes.

[Laexerias]

im dissapointed too that heavy rain is just going to take 12h but it will have more ways to go, so it will be a another play-through everytime you play. :D

and btw, i made MGS4 in almost less than 4h xD, was something like 4:11h
took to long in european.

[PoSTedUP]

people run through games in like one hour. it sucks because you dont really get to enjoy it as much and is a waste of 60$ to me, i like to enjoy my games to the fullest and get the most out of it especially a game as epic as MGS4, cmon. it took me 33 hours on normal. yall just ran though it, that means yall didn't see everything.... : P

for the average gamer and not some speed freak, MGS4 was 25+ hours, ok?

[slapsta72]

personally if a game is this short, i hire it and don't buy

seems practically every game is 12 hrs or under these days. don't the developers realise they are losing money

i'll hire for 2 bucks thanks

[Prismo_Fillusion]

Do you realize how much games cost to make these days? If a developer wanted to make a 20 hour game instead of a 10 hour game it's going to cost million and millions and millions more dollars. They won't make up for that with the people who decide to buy the game just because it's longer.

Additionally, with the complexity of new games, fine-tuning them is much more difficult than it used to be. Think of how long it takes to make a great 10 hour game (years) and if you want it to be twice as long, it's probably going to take one or two extra years.

It's just not worth it. I'd rather have an amazing 10 hour experience, than a half-assed 20 hour one.

[kevnb]

how many 20 hour games have you ever played that weren't RPGS? Do us all a big favor, play some of the older games you own and tell me how long they really are.

[LeShin]

The thing is if everyone wants brilliant graphics and a long-ass game this generation you have to be willing to wait an AWFUL long time for it. Look how long FFXIII is taking and even Killzone 2 took awhile to be finished (and I'm not sure how long that games single player's meant to be). Are you prepared to wait that long for every game? Oblivion is an exception, but then again it wasn't built for the current gen consoles.

I think this is the main reason why I don't actually care if there isn't a new "next-gen" console for a loooong time because what's the point of having a console that has better graphics then Crisis when it might take 5 years into the consoles term to make? Also the price of games are either going higher (which I don't want) or the same as now but the game gets shorter.

[Popeye]

Heavy Rain has been in development going on 3 years.

[Popeye]

8-12 hour SP+no mp = rental

[THC CELL]

12 hours is enough for this game lol look at GTA i mean that game was not that long and this game is not a RPG

no matter what i think this game will be played more than 5 to if not 10 times before u see it all and depends on the ending also

Look at fall out 3 i bet that game is 100 hours long and has what 500 ending yes its a rpg and no mp

I have played 6 hour games in my time and had more fun on them than 100 hour games

anyways it a game i will be getting Day one i and i bet it gets a 10 from most sites

[Mikelarry]

nah i wont pick this game up untill its really cheap. i do love a good story line but i prefer my gaming experence to be more than 12 hours for a game that cost 60 bucks

[solidt12]

It does last more than 12 hours. You have to play through the game more than once to get the whole story and plus there will be Trophies in place for doing so. So there is a benefit to playing this game more than once. It will take at least 20 hours to get most of the story and Trophies.

[BlackTar187]

that are not RPG's or Sandbox and even sandbox are not always 12 hours long.

Im not against you here I would just like you to look at your gaming collection and name the games that took over 12 hrs legit.

I would just like to know Ive been gaming for over 20yrs and i dont remeber to many games that werent RPG's or Sandbox that lasted longer then 12hrs.

If games are so quick play them on hard and they should last longer I do and I find the length is fine and the heartache is plenty.

[himdeel]

...I cannot think of a single one and I've been gaming since 1986. 12 hours is a sweet spot for a game with multiple paths to different endings.

It sounds like SOME multiplayer fans here in this thread cannot see the value in a 10-12 hour games unless, as someone mentioned are killing the same person with a different name scrolled above they head, several times.

I think this games value will speak for itself once it drops.

[Tarasque]

If your are basing game time for acquiring trophies, then wow some of the achievements on the 360 would take hundred of hours.

Check my post above for game longer than 10 plus hours and even 20 for that matter in some cases.

[THC CELL]

So that means this game will be what 1 hour on x box and let a lone what will never ever ever run on this xbox and the next xbox

[LuHawk]

it means the cell aint worth sh!t

[kevnb]

replay value on this one is looking to be high, I'm also not delusional and know that games have been this length since the ps1 days. I also remember just how expensive n64 and super nintendo games were.

[ceedubya9]

But seeing as how there will be alternate choices that you can make during the game, it should be good for at least another play through. As long as the story is cohesive and entertaining, I don't need the game to be fluffed up just for extra game time. That's what RPGs are for.

[Sena Kobayashi]

thats bad they should try to adjust it to around 15-20hours because if the game is that short people wont buy and it be sad for a game with such graphics to get low sales and only rentals.

im of to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!

[N2NOther]

As long as this has a lot of replay value then I'll be getting it. I couldn't care less how good the story is if I only need or want to play it once. 8 hours is too damned short for a game. Otherwise, like Uncharted, I'll be picking this up used.

[die_fiend]

8-12 hours is a little short but is roughly the norm nowadays. Whoever said that the only games that are longer than this are RPG's is mental. Bioshock took over 12 hours if u weren't just whizzing through it...Why is this game so hyped btw? The graphics looks sweet but it looks so similar to Fahrenheit or whatever it was called in the States (something even worse) in terms of how you play...Fahrenheit was pretty good to be fair but the story went mental towards the end...Y will this be better?

[Xakep]

It'll be better because they're only developing on one platform this time instead of 3, and they've learned from the mistakes they made from Fahrenheit. Also they were rushed during the last 3rd of Fahrenheit's development which is why the game went kind of south then, all this was said by David Cage in an interview with Gamasutra a long time ago.

8-12 hours on one play through is awesome, especially considering the game requires multiple playthroughs to see everything. I don't know why so many damn people are short sighted and apparently didn't read the article or anything else to do with the game but look at the pictures.

[nieto]

this gen games are more expensive but they are getting much more shorter...

[HighDefinition]

SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS can be beaten in about 4HRS. That doesn`t stop it from being the BEST GAME I played on PS2.

[Funky Town_TX]

and prob no multi-player. I wonder why it's so short. From what I've seen it does not look like I will get it when I get a PS3. Oh well, at least I will have Killzone.

[HighDefinition]

Cause it was about the same. That didn`t stop that from being a GREAT game.

Edit: below

That was a whole sh!tload of assumptions on your part. Thanks for being rude. All I was saying I Bioshock is a GREAT shorter game too.

Have fun w/ all that.

Peace.

[Funky Town_TX]

I did not say the game was bad. You are the official Sony rep right. Your job is to go around and defend everything Sony related. I wonder how much you get paid for that job? Bioshock was like no other shooter but it had little replay value. I still only want a Ps3 for Killzone 2 and it's not your job to convince me otherwise. That job is for Sony to do.

[bluecapone]

8-12hrs is perfect fot heavy rain since single player games are never over that limit anyway

[nice_cuppa]

does this include cutscenes ?
What percentage is gte's ?
How interactive is this game ?
Indigo prof interaction = not very
Gta interaction = very

[felidae]

if the game is good 12 hours is enough.

Heavenly Sword, Uncharted and Motorstorm are still some of the best games i've ever played .. and they're all a little bit short. so who cares?

[HighDefinition]

Did you try the MStorm2 Demo.

That sh!t is off the HOOK!

[nice_cuppa]

indigo prof = most like this game and by same devs and that had no replay value !

[HighDefinition]

http://www.videogaming247.c...

[BlackTar187]

So the replay value was 2x since you had to play differntly to get the second ending but also in indigo there were scenes you could mess up at like the throwing the clothes in the dryer etc.

[Altis1]

8-12 hours of "Simon Says" is probably more enjoyable than this game.

[juuken]

As long as the game has excellent replay value, I don't mind it being around that many hours. The game looks good enough to peek my interest.

[LikAChicken]

All in all however, I probably will get it. I just hope it has more detective like scenario's like with the trailer. If this game is like a suspenseful, psychological, philosophical (maybe), thriller, I will be all over it. I liked Condemned but then the story got really weird and the hallucinations weren't even scary. But this game seems to be very real, and emotional too. I don't know, after The Darkness and the connection the player had with Jenny, I have a newfound interest with games that can pull out emotion

~I am a gamer...who likes female gamers~

[cellypower]

Its a adventure game not a Rpg.Don't get upset when Alan wake is "8-12'hours aswell.If your a 360 fanboy don't buy Heavey Rain and just wait for alan wake.

[LikAChicken]

Wow so I'm a 360 fanboy? Word? So if someone is trying to be as objective as possible with a comment he's labeled a fan boy? Hmm...Didn't know N4G worked like that.

I actually am genuinely interested in this game and I want to hear more when more information is released, so I don't know where this fan boy stuff comes from.

But geez man chill when you throw that around. Being a fan boy to me sounds like being ignorant, and foolish, which I am not.

~I am a gamer...not a fanboy~

[VF34EJ25]

@Chicken... It doesn't even look like he was talking about you... lol

[Funky Town_TX]

That is how N4G is. How dare you say anything but the following:

Heavyrain=GOTY
LBP=GOTY
Killzone 2=GOTY
Resistance 2=GOTY

Ps3 is the best thing in the world and Sony is perfect. If you repeat those things over and over you will thrive on N4G.

BTW the GFX are good but the gameplay looks stupid.

[VF34EJ25]

Right Funkytown. 2 Years ago on N4G. If you remotely said "I have a ps3" you'd get your rear end ripped into shredds.

The table has turned, that's all.

[cellypower]

No my comment was in general and was not directed at anyone.It doesn't matter to me because I own all the systems.

[LikAChicken]

Yea reading the comment again i realize he wasn't really pointing at me lol. But I'm new here and I've been reading these articles and looking at comments. I must say that if you try to be objective here, it looks as if certain types of people would be all over you? But why? Hmm I don't know the history here on N4G but the way people praise one system and completely trash another just doesn't make sense to me. Unless you provide constructive criticism. But some comments I've read makes it look like some people actually worship these systems. And that is sad.

~I am a gamer...who has a life~

[DaTruth]

Why do people come to the PS3 section if they don't want to hear about how good the PS3 is? They miss the days when the PS3 section was all about bashing the PS3 and bad news.

[Stryfeno2]

Not surprised at all...Most PS3 exclusies are about that long.

[user858621]

same amount of hours as halo 3 n gears combines :D

[Stryfeno2]

In Gears or Halo 3 you get most of your thrill on multiplayer. If a game is only 8hrs to 12 hrs long and no multiplayer, it is usually a rental for me.

[Kratos3452]

If you think about how you will spend a couple of hours trying to beat certain parts of say a 12 hour game, with all the game over screens it would turn 12 hours into 8 or 9 anyway.For a 8-12 hour game where you never see a game over screen there will never be any time cut down from dying so the game length seems fine.

[Blackcanary]

is to long in my mind i can't stand games that are to long and there story is crap cause i lose intrest and i'll stop playing.
Now give me a game thats got a great story and i'm sorted and this game has a great story its like a Movie and it has replay in it theres more than one way to play the game.

This game will get my money in a heart beat.

[pp]

8hrs long not even worth the price another flop to add to the never ending flops on ps3 so much for blu-ray

[militant07]

NG2 scored +80% + we got alot of games coming,why would we care about too human and infinite

[LikAChicken]

How can you tell its a flop if it didn't come out yet?

~I am a gamer...not a fortune teller~

[play_b3yond]

@militant47 "we got alot of games coming"
Can you name a few games coming to xbox, other than Gears of War 2 and Flopable 2?

[meepmoopmeep]

damn, i can't wait to buy this game :)

[Common Sense]

are the same people justifying Too Human's length.
Too Human was about 10 hours(it was an RPG) in 1 play through but you need more than one to fully enjoy the game; same with Heavy Rain.

Uncharted took me 21 hours the first time because I don't rush through a $60 game. I enjoy the scenery and I savor every minute of it.

Heavy Rain would probably take me about 18+ hours in the first play through.

Quality > Quantity

Would rather play 75hrs of sh!t or 15 hours of awesomeness.

[Mr PS3]

75 hours of sh!t = About 10 xbox games

Poor BoTs

[VF34EJ25]

How would you even play this type of game for more than 12 hours anyway? I think it would get worse reviews if it was a 24 hour QTE game.

[SkolarVisari]

So multiple endings don't count for anything for some of you? That has nothing to do with replay value?

[pp]

8hrs Now I could understand why microsoft let this game go

[Dave2001]

Microsoft didn't let this game go Quantic Dream wanted to make the best game they could on the best & most powerful console which is why they decided to make it exclusive to the PS3.

Edit: and i thought i had you on ignore pp...i guess this must be another account ;) how many do you have now? must be over ten at least.

[Dragunov]

It takes me long too, i enjoy the 1st playtrough.

[Kratos3452]

This game is gonna be AWESOME!!!

[rhood022]

8-12 hours isn't bad. In fact, outside of rpgs, its pretty good for a SP experience.
But the truth is, most games are getting shorter play times, even jrpgs. For example, I just beat Tales of Vesperia in 25 hours with:

Party level of 62
All Giganto monsters beaten
All Fell Arms gathered and sorcerer's ring lvl 5.
Aurinion built
Some time spent at the "Games" Isle.

[Lex Luthor]

Hmmm.. Seems like i might rent this. Looks good but it seems a little light on action and gameplay, countless QTEs.

[Raoh]

not every game needs to be multiplayer.. or that long.......

i'm on my third play through of Heavenly Sword and loving it, much harder in HELL mode..

On my Second run with Uncharted as well.....

stuck half way through resistance 1 on super human mode.

I still go back and play indigo prophecy.

[Silogon]

Who cares how long the damn game is? Play it and shut up. Do you ever wish your favoite movies were longer? If so, tell me what you'd like them to have added to those movies and why are they your favorite movie if so much was missing?

6 to 8 hours is plenty long enough. Who the hell has time to play through a 12 hour to 30 hour game in todays day and age and get the absolute most out of it? Then, couple day to day life "outside of games" like bill playing, work, relationship, kids, etc etc etc with games you like to play online. How many of you, who lead productive lives, have the time for all of the above and a 30 hour game on top of it?

6 to 8 hours is great. 12 hours is fine, but it's pushing it. When a game goes past the 8 hour mark I start to see just filler and content put in for no good reason other than to make the game longer. I never read a book and say, man I wish they would've added 4 more hours of reading to it cause I didn't get my money's worth.

See how absurd you all sound?

[LikAChicken]

With classes and activities around campus, and just everything life throws at you, I don't think a student has time for 30+ hour games (just speaking for myself). But I do hope replayability is good. One may not have all the time in the world to enjoy a game , but you also would like to know the game is worth $60 as well.

~I am a gamer...who likes Rain~

[Cajun Chicken]

Seriously, that's fantastic for what is said to generally be an single player adventure game.
Pressing QTEs most the time? Can you even imagine how much gameplay that would have if it kept you on tenterhooks and relied on quick reflexes?
That's pretty good if you ask me, seeing how a lot of action games without any backtracking in the game takes about 4-6 hours to complete alone.

[Common Sense]

care about lengths of PS3 exclusives.

[juuken]

Good question.

[user858621]

because if they hav no xbox live then their games are p*ss short!!

[jack who]

cuzz sony fans care about lengths of 360 exclusives.

[butterfinger]

this game needs to be AMAZING if I am going to pay $60 for 8-12 hours. Uncharted was worth it to me, so this one better be as well.

[RebelExtrm02]

To the times of games taking 20 hours or more to complete. Look back at the Playstation 1 era. I remember reading in gaming magazines when they would gloat about how long the game was. Maybe I'm thinking too much of RPGs. I dunno. I just can't really remember any games that I owned back then that took 8-12 hours to beat. Heck I'd play for hours a day weeks at a time. Games like RE2 and whatnot come to mind.

Or maybe I just screw around too much in my games :p

All this talk about game replayability and length is making me want to go back and play dark cloud 2. lol

[InMyOpinion]

Only possible with the capacity of Blu-Ray.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Because Blu-Ray magically adds stuff to a game. All it takes is a quick prayer to the Dark One (or is it the Blue One in this case?) and all the design, coding and testing is over with.

Just be quiet.

[jcgamer]

don't get me wrong, it's a great addition...but seriously, every game doesn't need it to get my 60 bucks...GREAT SINGLE PLAYER FTW!

and GTA IV was the longest single player game I've played this generation...and most people didn't even finish it...I did...

I'm tired of hearing people complaining about game length...Do you WANT a longer game? well, go finish GTA IV...go do it! lol

8-12 hours of gaming bliss is cool with me...hopefully Heavy Rain is a GREAT game...

[thereapersson]

It's sad how many people think every single game needs multiplayer, even when it wouldn't match the game at all.

[bunbun777]

Seriously i really like N4G alot but who are some of these gamers? Are they seriously "the MAN" pretending to be gamers? Are you all 12 years old and just don't know any better? We don't care if you want to post a statement that says:

"10-12 hours? I'd rather rent the game....no multiplayer.....no thanks"

But we also can do this:

Are you all insane? I hate defending hype- but do you seriously not replay games?
1st run though for the novelty and the excitement
2nd run through to see the differences, increase the difficulty perhaps
3rd run through Total Domination with hard settings

Thats just the basic 3 runs which is at least 30 hours if in fact you are any good and not some suit pretending to be a gamer or a pre teen that needs to take a time-out.

Oh did we mention the graphics make me cry and the gameplay will be FUN? Emotionally gripping story and intense multiple possibilities. Your own main can DIE!!!

[jack who]

no miltplayer and its 8-12

what u sony fans have to say?

[juuken]

Not all games need multiplayer to be enjoyable.
Fail.

[play_b3yond]

God of War, Resident Evil and the previous Grand Theft Auto games didn't have multiplayer but they were masterpieces.
What do you xbots have to say now?

[jack who]

but they were more than 12hrs long....cry again sony fans

[juuken]

...And some didn't have replay value.
Fail again.

[kewlkat007]

The length of the game usually doesn't matter if it a Great game and people do feel like, they get their moneys worth.

There is some factors when it comes to Game Lengths.

1.Noob vs Experienced in the genre. - (some are just that good)
2.Difficulty Settings - (Play on Insane to slow things down)
3.Extra exploration/backtracking
4.Multiplayer replay value - (Thx to Shooters)
5.Cut-scenes - (Thx to MGS4)
6.Framework of the Story or Lack there of. - (Thx to Shooters)

Now Shooters do have a "crutch" in terms of "replay value" because of the multi-player aspects of them, so it's useless to complain that much about "shooters", especially when they tend to sell pretty well, regardless.

But.. a game like Heavy Rain should def be longer as I expect a much better storyline then shooters to tie it all in. 8-12 is short for the Genre, these days.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Gears of War is around 10-12 hours long this should be minimum when talking about the TV consoles. No one seemed to mind it with Gears of War and with Gears of War 2 to follow suit. Heavenly Sword should have been this long at least. With Uncharted: Drake's Fortune it took me about 8-9 hours to complete. So my argument stands pretty strong in my eyes.

[Droid]

reminds me of Lesbian Sword. Oh, wait--that game was barely 4 hours.

poor droids.

[aggh im on fire]

I would rather them make a great single player game with heavy rain than spend time on multiplayer.
The story is the important thing with games like this, same as the forthcoming alan wake and silent hill. Some games are just meant to be played on your own. If bioshock had have included multiplayer you can be that the single player game would have been effected due to development time and budget.

[cmrbe]

People are getting too obsessed with less important aspects of a game then actually focusing on the most important thing which is weather you have a great time playing the game.

I for one am sick of people fighitng over the number of pixel on screens, the length of games, the length of cutscenes which are all irrvelenet. If you have a great time playing it and its worth it then that is all that matters.

[LiquifiedArt]

Look at past generations... 12 hrs is a pretty long game minus if its an RPG.

When did 12 hrs become short exactly?? It took me 2 weeks to finish LAIR playing it everyday after work for a couple hrs.

[mfwahwah]

8-12 seems like a very good length for this game. I'll be replaying this countless times to see how I can alter the story, because yes, you do ALTER the story based on your decisions. That means multiple stories. That means replayability. That means 8-12 hours times X replays.

Can't wait.

[thereapersson]

I have said LONG ago that I really dislike the concentration on so much multiplayer this generation. It seems that gamers are fine with the developers copping out and delivering a 4-6 hour single player experience if they get muliplayer, no matter how good the multiplayer aspect of the game really is. In fact, many games that incorporate multiplayer aren't any better than the single player experience, but because the developers simply tacked on a multiplayer aspect to the game it's okay to give developers a free pass.

By the way, i'm excited for this game because it is attempting to do something different and innovative when it comes to story-telling in games. So many games nowadays forsake a good story for action that you can jump right into and multiplayer that has nothing relevant to bring anyone other than "can u beat my hi score, lol". Unfortunately, the problem here is that the majority of gamers this generation have developed a sort of ADD when it comes to playing video games. Just think, how many games have you actually went back and played after you beat them? Most of the people who have a good amount of games only play games about once or twice before discarding them.

Also, HOW THE HELL WOULD MULTIPLAYER EVEN WORK IN THIS GAME?

You: I'll run here
Your friend: Okay, and when you get there, i'll press the "X" button!

Just STFU about multiplayer already!

[Tacki]

Honestly, 8-12 hours might seem short in some ways... but for a game like this I don't believe it'll be a problem. If there are really as many ways to effect the story as the developers have implied and every little thing can somehow influence the outcome, then it'll have a hell of alot of replay value. It's even been stated that you can continue playing through the story even if the girl (or 'main' character, whoever it may be) dies. And if this game is able to deliver a very mature experience that really connects with the player then I think people will want to play through it multiple times to see how they can mold the story. I know I will.

Also when I think that Uncharted fell into that time-frame on my first playthrough it really doesn't seem bad at all. That's another game that may be 'short' in some respects... but it's one of the most purely 'fun' games I've played in quite awhile. Not only that, but it's still fun to play through despite absolutely nothing changing in the story. That's an extremely linear game really... but it still manages to be fun. So I think as long as developers can tap into a way to keep the player engaged, it can turn out just fine.

LOL @ the multiplayer comments. Why would anyone expect that from a game like this? I'm not disapointed you can't level up your characters in Gears of War 2, though I love RPG's. I love when games gave multiplayer... but I wouldn't want it tacked on in every game (especially those that don't cater well to multiplayer) and have it half-assed and all. The way I look at it is... while you may only have an 8-12 hour experience your first time through... if you're able to have a siginificantly different 8-12 experience again... isn't it worth it? Of course we'll have to see how well Quantic Dream pulls this off, but I think Indigo Prophecy was a great and unique game so I'm very excited for their next offering.

[mfwahwah]

Multiplayer could be a QTE duel. First one to fudge it loses lol.

God that would get old quick.