Following EA's Twitter gaffe with Battlefield 1 - ScreenGurus Shaun wonders if using serious historical wars for such over the top shooters is a good idea.
As a historian who studies history for a living there is a balance to be struck. Yes we need to be respectful of events but we also need to keep ourselves from being too serious. We owe these boys our respect but they also didn't sacrifice just for us to be so uptight and unable to laugh. We can respect and entertain all in the same breath.
As opposed to a historian that studies crochet for a living?
You can't get a history degree or a graduate degree by studying crochet, it has to be more substantial than that. Sorry. And when I say I study history for a living I'm referring to the fact I hold actual academic degrees in history.
In this day and and age you can't do anything without offending.....
I find that offensive.
I'm offended because you're offended.
And this proves my point! :)
In no day and age could you ever do that , nothing has changed. Quite frankly I'm completely fine with that because I believe until we have a day where we have full equality for all genders races religions beliefs Creeds what-have-you , we're always going to have people offended over a series of things. I'd rather have those who are offended seeking equality then society that conforms and tries to mold everyone into one thing. Though I somewhat understand that people get annoyed by it, I wouldn't be so quick to openly accept the alternative. The same people that talk about other people or offended as some negative thing are likely the same people that were telling a bunch of minorities and people of different religions and believes to "get over it" or accept having a lesser rights. I have nothing but respect for the Freedom Fighters that literally gave their lives to give me the type of freedom I have today to express myself, I never take that for granted because things could have definitely turned out a different way if somebody did not stand up and say they were offended by my lack of Rights. I'm fine with that bud. Sometimes you need someone to always be offended to keep everyone in awake to issues lol
I agree with what you say but lately I do have the feeling that no matter what you do or say someone will get offended and that is starting to become a tad on the silly side and I wonder sometimes how serious some of them are...
Just go with "white people are evil and horrible" and boom, no one is offended.
A certain demographic cant handle the truth looking at your disagrees. But they might be of self loathing Whites too
I know it's a joke but you will still find people offended by that statement.
imagine the uproar if you said black people are evil and horrible.
Better yet, cry offense that games like Battlefield 1, Watchdogs, and Mafia 3 and are historically inaccurate or unrealistic--basically, that the heroes should be some other race. *eyeroll*
It's a game for crying out loud. It can't be taken too seriously in regards to the storied events that take place. It's cool to see the historical events and to keep things realistic as far as what was available at the time, but the rest is just fiction.
I think it's great to acknowledge historical horror even in a light fashion and to help people to never forget. Like you said it's a game and just like movies people should be able to have fun and laugh about it. The important part is acknowledge the reality and remember it that's why I think realistic representation is great even if having fun about it.
Like Shakespeare wrote: Much Ado About Nothing.
If History offends someone then how can you do it properly, changing it would be more offensive as you don't respect it. However developers need to forget about who they offend. I mean do you think South Park got where it is today by being nice, no they did things they wanted to and people just got used to it.
It also started many years ago. If South Park started today it would be very different show with a very different following. There are a lot of old movies and TV shows that just couldn't exist if they started today because people would be so uptight and offended that they would have to tweet apologies for even considering it. What a day and age we live in when companies tweet apologies for other people's feelings.
No. I absolutely completely disagree with that. South Park is still edgy and it is still what it is today because its creators and I don't see that changing regardless of the time They released that show.
I kind of miss when South Park was just about dumb stuff like alien anal probes, who was Cartman's mom and Kenny dying every week.
Absolutely agreed , I believe that the only way to properly tell something historically is to be as truthful and as raw as possible. If someone's offended by it they technically should be offended at the people that historically did those actions as opposed to the game representing them. Why shoot the messenger?
Yes but how many actually tackle serious history? Most historic games are loosely based and take liberties for the sake of gameplay. The political stuff is stupid all around.
The problem is people these days are too easily offended and would rather turn a blind eye to an important topic of discussion involving anything slightly offensive or uncomfortable, you know that old saying of history repeating itself and how we should learn from our past...
Absolutely agreed. A good friend of mine was telling me about all the crazy moments in Mafia 3 and I absolutely loved that the developer was doing all of these things to show just how terrible it was. Like if you're in a fairly affluent neighborhood the police would get called on you and that the cops would he even used the n-word I absolutely love that even being a black male because I want to see the raw reality of that time period in the game as opposed to them trying to sugarcoat it because nothing is more offensive than those that try to twist history to form some sort of sugar-coated narrative.
Considering the pandemic of SJWs and the rise of PC culture, no.
There's nothing that could ever be tackled without "offending" anyone because that is a subjective idea, this entire article doesn't even make any sense.... I honestly do not see any way that anyone could produce any type of Art that has anything to do with history without offending someone in some way or another.... Who cares? How is this relevant to gamers?
Put it this way those who are offended by a game depicting history need to be more so offended at the actual thing in those historical moments then game merely representing it. Why shoot the messenger? Don't be mad that in Mafia 3 the character being in a white neighborhood result in the cops being called, be upset by that actually happened in real life in people. I respect any artist that is willing to unapologetically expose the reality of those time periods...
Don't throw history under the bus to defend video games lol. People shouldn't be mad at either of them. People shouldn't be mad at history, we should be glad that stuff is history. People today trying to relive 1968 are fucking dumb. Learn from history don't hate it. Don't use it as an excuse to express your own hatred either. History can't be changed, the next generation either goes forward or backward. That 60s era burnouts are in charge right now and it's a fucking disaster. "The great society" they called this generation. Look what the LBJ reforms did for the black communities everywhere in the 60s. From a corporate slave to government slave. "The war on poverty" doomed black Americans from the start by funneling them into project housing and taking over education and tax policy. Black American cities live in full blown fianancial and cultural Marxism and it's gotten to the boiling point. The militant marxist wing of the black power movement is back in full swing as well. Learn, don't hate. The vast majority of us have moved on from that time or are young enough to have never known it.
I'm not. That's the point of the post.
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