ScreenGurus Sam offers his take on why Street Fighter V might now be the game that should've been the one we got at launch.
What a difference 10 months makes. Totally glad the $60 Early Access period is finally over.
It's kinda sad. I mean the way they shipped the game was unforgivable in my opinion. The thing that is sad however is at least to me Street Fighter V is a very solid game as far as mechanics go. I know some think it's a bit simple but I kinda like the back to basics approach it has. The sad thing is that like dead_pixels mentioned so many people see the whole release as a beta of sorts and I honestly don't know if any amount of polish and additions can pull new people in. I think those that love the game already are there for awhile but I don't think they will get much new blood. The big question I have is if they make a 6th game and make it multiplat again would it rebound? Or has the damage been done?
You're absolutely right
I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom go the 'free to play' route to entice new players in to the game. The way they released it the game was dead on arrival.
i will buy it when they add arcade mode. is that planned?
I've enjoyed playing and watching Pros play since it came out. I didn't think it had enough content, and some of the designs were very questionable (Ken's face/hair) with modders doing a much better job with the characters on the PC. I still feel it deserves a future and more success. Having said that, I do think Netherrealms is the king of fighting games these days. Can't wait for Injustice 2.
After playing KoF 14, SF 5 feels like a paid beta. The fact Capcom has this "release now, patch later" attitude is further proof the might dollar is more important than making a game to remind fans why we should buy SF 5. I'm sad to say but 5 is my last SF purchase until Capcom gets dollar signs out of their eyes. There's only so many times people will still buy into the name until people realize it's garbage, and need to vote with their wallets until Capcom decides to actually make something good AND complete.
KO14 and GG Rev are the GOATs this year in fighting games.
So glad I have all of these games
SFV is a terrific game, it always was, it just lacked content at launch.
Not that I agree/disagree, since everyone is entitled to their opinion(s). At the time SF 5 launched, there wasn't a lot of competition fighting game wise, so naturally they will fit the "drought of fighting games." The root of the problem is SF5 doesn't really bring anything new to the series like the previous versions. Previous games had unlockables, online, and even story modes. What did 5 really bring? Micro transactions? Sell now and patch later? If Capcom really wants to test their market(s), re release the original SF 2 games, Alpha series, the cross overs, and even 3rd Strike (on the PS4/One). It will show which series of games are what the fans consider positive experiences. Those games were made for fun, Esports, and to show why they dominated the market. Now? All they want to do is rush games out, and a lot of die hards defend their practices just because it's SF, no other reason. I grew up on SF games, but now I'm on the borderline of moving on. I can only defend a company so long before deciding it's time to find greener pastures through companies where the customer is first, which in turn brings loyal fans.
Pffft makes no difference what a game turns into, it's about what it was...and in SFVs case it was a barebones, lacking game. People have moved on. We judge what we were given at the time not what we get a year later.
What? No, a lot of people haven't moved on. SFV remains the most popular fighter in the FGC (excluding Smash) in regards to competition and esports. There are a lot of people that still care about this game.
Hey if you like an incomplete game and love waiting for the rest of the game a year after, maybe even paying extra for some bits and bobs fair enough but people with common sense would have moved on. Why should we support in complete games, it just tells them we don't mind so they can do it again.
Yep and while I don't condone it this was always their plan and were open about that. So while I felt short changed somewhat at purchase I still get plenty of fun out of it playing with friends over a few beers etc. Still the best fighter IMO
It's different when they tell you in advance and all the modes etc are a free update and you can earn most characters just doing everything once. It's not as big a deal as people act. People act like they were lied to yet a video demonstration came out a week earlier showing what you'll get at launch and what they'll be doing with the game. For a game that plans to add things for free over the lifespan of the ps4. It has no reason to really make people wait until 2017 for the game when you can play now and still get all the content free in 2017.
@Foxtrot well they provided a good amount in the last 10 months. Also, when you think about it, Capcom were broke two-three years back only having $152mil, and then they partnered with sony just before 2015 to create SFV. Also, every character in the game can be earned, none of that 'Super' or 'Ultra' shit, you buy it once and then that's it. In my eyes, they've done well. They may have lacked content in launch, but caught on quick IMO. Buying the game now is all good, there's no point in complaining any more. You can get the game for 20 quid, and it's worth it.
-Foxtrot, "Moved on" is a term I would reserve for those who've invested and feel burned. I haven't gotten it yet, and sales indicate not many have. If it's worth owning now, it might finally get the community it was meant to have. So to say they've moved on, well, I don't believe that's quite accurate.
I've moved on.
Foxtrot, "It makes no difference what the game turns into". Are you just trolling Sony/SFV or do you actually believe that? That is outrageously foolish imo. Of course it makes a difference, why else would developers put out so many patches? How about Titanfall? Diablo 3? Driveclub?
I am sure the billions will stop supporting league of legends since it was a incomplete game....
I still play this game bought it day one to
Remember when a game was sold to you COMPLETE? Sure DLC could be offered later, but at least you felt okay paying full price for the initial game. Publishers have lost their d*** minds.
No. SFV and Hitman were planned this way, just like FFVII. It's not all that egregious.
Not that I exactly disagree, but remember that we, as consumers in a free market, vote with our wallets. If you don't want certain things coming to pass, you need to organize behind your principles. Remember how Prince of Persia 2008 locked the story conclusion behind paid DLC? Yeah, we don't see much of that at all. It goes to show that when you throw a wrench into an organization's efforts and reasoning, you get results. In this case, Ubisoft did it for more money. Instead, they got much less money than it probably cost them to make it. It doesn't pay to bite the hand that feeds.
It's too late now. The hype is gone and casuals buy on hype alone and sadly, the grand majority of the sales of every game come from them.
Game currently has plenty of content, and story mode is really well done. Would easily recommend it. However on launch, as someone who has been gaming for more than 20 years, I have never seen a game with such lackluster content.
It's a better game than it was at launch, and I think it's the best on the market mechanically, but it's not the game its fans deserved. It's still missing arcade mode. It still takes an extra minute to boot because it insists on attempting to connect to Capcom's servers every time you boot it up, whether you have an internet connection or not. There's no innovation to the online game modes, just regular fights, ranked or unranked. Even SFIV had team battles and some other features. Online lobbies are just about functional, but offer the bare minimum, no community features at all, replays are awkward as you can't view them directly from a fight card. Following players is a pain in the ass because it places them into the same list as your friends. There are no offline replays. DLC character costumes are overpriced and many of them are just flat out awful. There are also no bundles for this content. While the core mechanics are fantastic everything else surrounding that gameplay is third rate. Fortunately for Capcom most of the community care about gameplay first, so the game has a lot of people willing to support its competitive scene but they need to work on everything else if they want their games to reach a wider audience.
No, arcade mode is in, under the option "player 1 vs cpu".
What? So I don't deserve crotch shots, and butt slaps?
I think this game is addicting. Sure it lacked a lot initially but still one of my most played games especially survival mode. Capcom only has themselves to blame for the reputation it got.
The game was always the game ppl deserved. The game released with the promise of these things happening in future updates. All the complaints were basically people who bought blind. The gameplay is superb. Did it lack content before? Yes. Do you have to pay anything for the Contentthat exists now. Apart from skins no. You can play to earn though I would agree earning characters without money after the story twice and the Prologue, character trials etc. It'll be a bit of a hassle to always have to do the weekly or daily challenges or fight online and win. That's all I think needs to be addressed mainly. The rest is coming and the same base game bought will end up being as big as ultra street Fighter IV so I definitely have no complaint. I bought into every ver. Last gen, it's already paid off seeing this game is More than V SFIV content wise
Only if it is on disc.
Not sure why you got any downvotes for your comment, but I totally agree. The disc version that Capcom released originally was just a small piece of the full game. Until Capcom releases a new, more complete version of SFV, I'll pass on the game (as many others have done as well).
Now it's worth $60 and one of the best fighting game this generation.
Are you a shill, or just plain stupid?
Did your mom give you that mouth 😂😂
A "your mom" joke... I haven't heard one of those since grade school. Great job. -_-
Thankyou!!! I was hoping you would say something so I could have you banned :/ I bet you are over 30 lmao
Get me banned? BWAHAHAhahaahaahaaa!!! For, what-- a reply? Lol! What an imagination you have there, kiddo. Best of luck with that, dunce.
I don't play SF...or any fighting game for that matter, but all my friends that do always complain about lag, input lag/lag inconsistencies or certain characters being cheap in online games. Since I have no feeling about this game and listening to their feedback, I always ask them, "why are you playing SFV instead of IV?" I don't remember them complaining as much in that game as they do in 5...and what's with not having an option to filter regions in matchmaking? Even then If I could filter US only I'd only want to play east coast players to minimize lag.
Sounds like they're not good or don't have optimal Internet. I'm not even trolling. I've only played 10 or 20 online matches and I only had lag on 2 matches, one was a ad connection matches which is a problem like you said. But the other was during the first day, I wouldn't base an online experience off the first few days lol. But characters being cheap is in every game. You can counter every character in SFV using another, so that's why it doesn't pay off only knowing one character or whatever. Plus the mechanics were changed so alot of SFIV mechanics are changed making things different.they still play this ver. Because gameplay in SFV is definitely great and better than 4
they mention auto correct bs a lot and certain inputs not always registering, but again even if they had optimal internet the game is P2P based, so the guy with the better internet is always punished.
Just like Microsoft catching up to Sony in sales huh? A little to late
Just like Sony catching up to Microsoft in revenue? /BOOM
Well you are playing this on your powerful Windows PC though, right?
I didn't know there was a race to revenue...
It would be complete if it had arcade mode.
Time for Super Street Fighter V
Still waiting for the ultimate arcade ultra delicious complete wtfbbq edition.
No more 8 frame delays, wiffs, hit-boxes that make no sense and an imbalanced tier list? I gotta check this out....
You don't deserve more than what you paid for. No one was forcing you to buy it. It's not like you didn't know what it was. By paying for it you are approving of the game and what it is. You don't buy something and then demand it's something else. That's not how it works.
Capcom killed streetfighter for me with this. All the excitement of launch and still no single player game. So sad.
Same here but with SF4 on PS3... it's a damn shame.
Arcade mode? They finally made it I can play offline to get fight money? Online matches no longer buggy as hell? The BS DLC prices been made free as they once promised? If all this is fixed then yeah. My copy is collecting dust on the shelf.
It's not very different from what Titanfall did in 2014, yet that game was praised to the moon and back. Selective criticism. SFV is a terrific game.
I still haven't unlocked all the characters in this game. It takes so long that I just gave up and put the game on the shelf. (I've never done this with a Street Fighter game). Capcom made it so ridiculous to achieve unlocking everything that it's like grinding through an RPG so that your impatience gets the best of you buy characters, stages, etc out of frustration. Capcom thinks it's funny but, it's hurt the franchise and thus Capcom. Street Fighter IV had unlockable characters but, that was fun! Street Fighter V makes you ask why. When did gaming lose its fun? why did it have to for the sake of greedy companies trying to milk consumers for every penny they've got forcing them to take on a third job just to pay for the full experience their $60 should've gotten them? DLC was a horrific idea that spawned into a better way to pick pockets with Micro transactions allowing developers to crank out incomplete games at a premium price and then sell you the rest of what you should've gotten later. And yes Street Fighter V most certainly does this. Acquiring in game currency is frustrating to the point the game isn't fun because it takes so long. I don't know how to emphasize that enough. Maybe Capcom will press a new disc that has everything on the disc it should've had before and the data shown for how in demand single-player game play is shows their online service isn't what gamers want. They want the couch experience gaming with friends they know.
Remember MvC2 on the Dreamcast? Still, to this day, the best fighter of all time! None of that DLC/microtransactions bullshit to unlock extra character, alternate costumes, stages, modes etc...
No, not really, not yet.
Still doesn't have an arcade mode, a basic feature in nearly every fighting game in existence
The game is still trash......
This kind of practice will be used over and over as dumb people cannot resist.
imo SFV is a master piece
Yeah... a "mater piece" of shit! BTW, "master piece" is one word, dunce.
"The game we DESERVE"... is anyone else sick of these entitled assholes making these "We Deserve" articles? I, for one, am. Guess what, people; if you don't like being nickled-and-dimed for all that extra content which used to be unlocked (technically for FREE, by the way) by playing the game enough times and mastering the AI, here's what you do: DON'T BUY THE DLC! Send a message to the publishers that you won't be taken advantage of and suckered into dumping even more money into an incomplete game. Case in point: Marvel vs Capcom 2. There was SO much extra content to that game that I didn't even need to be in front of my Tv and Dreamcast to unlock stuff; all I needed sometimes was my VMU (Virtual Memory Unit). Does NO ONE remember? Sure, there are a few games that legitimately warrant the price of their DLC, but most is purely a ripoff designed to squeeze every last penny from your wallet... like EA's-- ANYTHING! Especially their Star Wars game, just to name one of their most recent titles. So when you think you DESERVE a particular type of game, first ask yourself if the next game you're interested in is an ACTUAL FULL game, then weigh it against their DLC's; if the publisher offers a season pass (especially if it's announced before the game's release --cough, any Call of Duty, cough-- it's most likely just another rotten way for them to get every last red cent from you that they can sucker you out of before they release the sequel just to do it all over again.
Why? did they remove all the censoring they did to it? if not then does the article say that what we deserve is a censoring game?