Today Sony Corporation posted its financial result for the second quarter and first half of fiscal year 2016, ended on September 30th.
They're easily going to surpass 50 million by the end of the year. Can't wait to see how ps4 pro is received.
Definitely. I reckon between the new cheaper slim model and the Pro, they'll have smashed 50Mill even before the year is out. It'll be interesting to see how/if PSVR also stimulates more PS4 sales.
60 Million in a fiscal year? That means they have until March/April of 2017 to hit that number. Lime123 said they may hit 57 million by end of December, that is truly possible.
Congrats Sony. They'll hit 52 millions this holiday. That's for sure.
Thatguy-310 The people disagreeing with you is hilarious. If the PS4 averages 1.3 million a month with the numbers already at 47.4, that would make the remaining 2.6. Since the Pro is about to launch along with November and December being the holiday shopping season, covering 2.6 million is not even of question in 2 months. It could very well achieve that in one month.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Sony shipped 8.4 million PS4's in last quarter of 2015. This year they will ship even more thanks to Pro. So by the end of December 2016. I expect around 57 million.
i think thier fiscal ear ends in april, so 60m sounds about right.
"So there are not 40-47m unique Sony fans out there thus why we see games that sell 1-5mil. More like 20 mill active users out there!" Ok Todd. Whatever makes you feel better. Can't you say the same for Xbox with the S right now. For all we know it could be the same people upgrading. Especially since when MS mentioned 4k and Blu-ray, now all of a sudden both are the most important thing in gaming. 4k Blu-rays are the most wanted item now. So since you conveniently cut Sony's user base in half then we can do the same for MS. So 10 million active user for Xbox. Might be even less since MS does release numbers anymore. No wonder they're starting over again with the Scorpio. People and MS can says otherwise but most of us know what's going on. History is just repeating itself and they are trying to be the most powerful and come out first with a New Gen console. Yes, A NEW GEN CONSOLE.
@todd, really? Doubt that very much considering the Pro aint even out yet. You could say the same about xbone fans double dipping for the s. 20 mill lol, thats xbox numbers. Wrong console ffs. You salty bro?
@Todd You've always got some half thought out comment to say don't you? If you want to talk like this about Sony, how many "unique Xbox One users" do you suppose there are? Not only will hey not give numbers, but if we were to guess they have less than half the numbers of Sony. So say maybe 23 million (that's a huge stretch). Maybe cut that in half and there's your "unique users". Would explain why games that are supposed to be the next big thing, like Halo, Forza, and Forza Horizon sell so poorly. I'm always shocked when someone tries so hard to get a point across, but they forget that what they're talking about would also apply to them
That is insanely crazy shipments there. PS4 FTW
Each fan has 2 or 3 copies of the system so yes they will get to 50m...smh. Ya'll preach more hardware sold so show me a game that "matches" the "hardware sales"?
PS4 shipping 47.4 million is still true beast mode right there. However this puts its sales slightly behind PS2 which sold 47.59 million at this point in its lifecycle, so PS4 is currently no longer Sony's fastest selling console. Also for reference, DS sold 53.64 million & Wii sold 56.14 million at this point in their respective lifespans. I expect PS4 to start selling at a faster rate than Wii within its fifth year on the market.
Shipped is not the same as sold. Therefore I wouldn't say it's on equal footing. It's close tho. Edit: Oh geez. Why are people replying with comments about Xbox. This has nothing to do with Xbox. I am talking about ps2 and Ps4. Enough about the Xbox in the replies and stay on topic. Especially at @[email protected]
To them shipped means sold when it comes to Sony so why you feel you have to point that out
Um...they're being sold.
and sony came out and said in there ps4 pro showing 45mil SOLD nice try buddy.
hahaha The overreaction to your post is insane! damn I hate this community at times
Dude you are literally up and down this thread and the only thing you're contributing so an attempt to downplay this news with every post. The next time there's an Xbox article and you're whining about the Sony fans in there downplaying, I'm going to reference this thread right here for you...
Shipped is actually sold in the console industry. If it's shipped, that means Sony made their wholesale cost. Sony has made their money. If it sells, then companies CONTINUE to make money on each unit. If you ship it to a retailer, that means they bought them from the company. They then mark up the price to the MSRP and that's what consumers pay. Once you buy a console, you buy games, accessories, etc. And once you do that, your continued investment makes more money for them. So whether Sony has shipped to stores or sold to consumers who don't invest in anything after that, they make the same revenue. Shipped is generally of greater interest to investors, not gamers.
dont even bother. the PS bias in this site is sad and embarrassing to watch. the thing is they actually deny it too. yet, they dislike any bad points against the PS. fact or fiction. sure the the xbots roam around these parts, but a simple look at the like/dislike ratio between the two consoles is more than enough. i actually own a ps4 too. its like this site harbors manchildren that still cant understand the concept of choice.
@demonddel If you are a business of selling a physical product like the PS4 you need to know how many of that product has been sold to consumers so you can predict how many products you need to manufacturer without having that product sitting on the retailer's shelf. Basically, if you ship too much product and there is a surplus you get the retailers upset. If you don't ship enough you get a supply problem which annoys the customer and in addition gets retailer upset since they can't sell to the consumer. A case of loose and loose scenario. This is why high-level statistics (not the kind you learn in High school) is needed and even then there is always a margin of error, hence feedback from retailer to and from manufacturer is essential. If a manufacturer states that it is not important to know shipments they are effectively lying since manufacture, shipping and sales are essential knowledge for any business.
They won't reach it but if they release a smaller pro unit again & sell it to the same person that already bought a reg, & slim unit then yes they will get there.
Sony sure is going into detail on where its doing best. Financial reports are sometimes interesting.
Take this from a person who deals with them on a daily basis, they are never interesting!!!
They may not be interesting but they are essential to any business.
Uneducated people are interesting because they actually are real and breed.
Those sales are crazy. Congratulations Sony and thanks for sharing then with us.
Last quarter: PS4 - 3.9 million shipped 3DS - 1.7 million shipped Wii U - 0.34 million shipped So last quarter PS4 outshipped 3DS and Wii U COMBINED 2:1. Pretty close.
Sony still expects to ship 20 million PS4's in this FY. If they succed, PS4 will be at exactly 60 million shipped by the end of March 2017.
No beating the ps4! Also when the pro arrives all competition will be very upset lol . For amy walking dead fans ps4 is negan, the victims are the competition lol
60mil by fiscal year 2017 easy!
I guess now we realize why Sony wasn't stressing about 3/4 NPD losses in one market. They are back to Juggernaut status worldwide.
What I love, is how bad microsofts sales were last year and only went up 8% this year. Last year was THE second worst year for sales since microsoft entered the gaming industry. Put that against sonys lower sales due to A. The time of year and B. The release of the pro in 9 days.
So they sold 40 million by 09.07.16 Which they announced at the event. Now they shipped 47.4 Million consoles which would conclude to around 5.5 million consoles still not sold and sitting on the shelves? Or is my math wrong?
Your dates are wrong. They didn't announce 40 million sold on the 7th of September. http://www.polygon.com/2016... They announced that on the 22nd of May of this year. "Sony announced today that it has sold more than 40 million PlayStation 4 units as of May 22, continuing to make it the fastest-selling console in the company's history." Personal question. How does something who works for a gaming podcast not know that?
Its funny because im right: https://youtu.be/11XjMplfTd... So why would they say 40 million if they sold more? Sony never does that. Back in May probably was shipped numbers. Those are facts posted, but you can, like always, spin it however you want.
@VideoGameLab: You are both right, but MasterCornholio is more correct in that his is more accurate and represents the data you are attempting to analyze. They can repeat the same news a few weeks later, that doesn't make that the 'as of' date for sales metrics. The first time they announce it, that's the date to compare. It's uncommon for them to update their data publicly except but three or four times a year (pre-E3, pre-Holiday, post-Holiday). Here's my question: What math did you utilize to come up with 5.5 million sitting on store shelves? Did you just round down to some even number and assume that, worldwide, they sold less than 2 million since the end of May? Or, was there an actual methodology to it?
@VideoGameLab15m ago [So they sold 40 million by 09.07.16 Which they announced at the event. Now they shipped 47.4 Million consoles which would conclude to around 5.5 million consoles still not sold and sitting on the shelves? Or is my math wrong?] Wrong month! Sony sold over that by May! [Over 40 Million PS4 Consoles Have Been Sold Around The World, With Another 20 Million On The Way BY CHARLES POLADIAN ON 05/26/16 AT 10:52 AM] https://www.google.com/amp/... Oh for Pete's Sake: @VideoGameLab That is in reference to the 👉Milestone 👈 of Hitting over 40 million Sold already.when they had such , even when that was pointed out they were already over 40+ million Sold in September due to already had Sold over that amount by may 22 of 2016! .the financial disclaimer is uptodate Doc..you cannot Lie about it because it's no.need to lie , and if you think there is 5.5 million PlayStation 4's sitting on shelves , you really are not thinking because if you are clearly not taking in the Law of averages.. If your shipping 1 million a month for a year that would be what?...simple freaking math 12 million...Sony is averaing way over that, how do you think Sony's able to do such? No retail chain is going to keep ordering if they cannot sell the [email protected] units. We are just barely into the full ending of year 3' Not only are you trying to change the argument for Arguments sake when the financial release was already shown, but those are before 4th Quarter shipments! March to the following Apr 1st is Sony's fiscal year! Your Argument has all the legs missing off your Milkstool..IE: you have no leg to stand on .
Your wasting your time on him
Your the only one spinning. Andrew House "With more than 40 million consoles sold worldwide" Andrew House was correct. They did sell OVER 40 million PS4s. The previous announcement by Sony was also correct. http://www.prnewswire.com/n... "Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) today announced that PlayStation®4 (PS4™) has cumulatively sold through more than 40 million units to consumers worldwide as of May 22, 2016, continuing to demonstrate the fastest-selling console in PlayStation® history. " Notice how they said sold through? Sold through = sold to consumers. Or are you going to accuse SIE of lying? BTW you still didn't answer my previous question. For your info. Definition of sell through: " Sell through rate is a calculation, commonly represented as a percentage, comparing the amount of inventory a retailer receives from a manufacturer or supplier against what is actually sold to the customer." https://www.thebalance.com/...
@MasterCornholio11m ago(Edited 6m ago) [Your the only one spinning. Andrew House "With more than 40 million consoles sold worldwide"] Exactly what we just pointed out..that was in freaking reference to the 👉Milestone 👈 of reaching said sold through numbers earlier in the year. Fact of the Matter it's a freaking far cry from what Microsoft's done. Two years ago: Yusuf Mehdi, Corporate Vice President of Devices and Studios, revealed on Xbox Wire that the uptick in sales “has been amazing,” and that sales have since tripled when compared to last week. Most notably, however, is that Mehdi also teased the fact that Xbox One has finally overtaken the PS4, saying: “As we head into the busy holiday season Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks. Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles.” While “sold into retailers” isn’t the same as selling through to consumers (Microsoft’s sales numbers incorporate the number shipped to stores), it’s still impressive to see the Xbox One gaining ground in its first year, especially considering it didn’t have the smoothest of launches. https://gamerant.com/xbox-o... Than look what happened: in 2014! Microsoft CFO Amy Hood hinted in a recent earnings call that market saturation for the new console might be approaching sooner than expected.Gamasutra reports that Microsoft shipped 1.2 million Xbox Ones in the third fiscal quarter (January 1st – March 31st), which contributed heavily to the 41% year-over-year increase in revenue for Microsoft’s Devices and Consumer Hardware division. Unfortunately, it appears that those millions of Xbox One consoles aren’t exactly flying off the shelves. During the earnings call, Hood said that Microsoft “expect[s] to work through some inventory in Q4 [April 1st - June 30th],” mentioning “channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles.” From Gamasutra’s perspective, Hood’s statement implies that Microsoft may slow or even stop Xbox One production altogether until demand picks up. We know that the company has shipped 5 million consoles to retailers since launch, but Microsoft hasn’t been as forthcoming with actual end user sales data. http://www.giantbomb.com/fo... Now if Microsoft's had hit the 👉Milestone 👈 Why not say such? But you think Sony is Somehow , Someway not telling the truth about their numbers @ VideoGameLab. It's Quite clear , there is no ..oh gee which one is real numbers..they both are..just one is in reference to past tense, while the other is upto date!
Uuuum the video that you posted below. Andrew House said "with More than 40 million" the keywords that you ignored is "more than"
They ALWAYS say OVER because they are still selling at the moment they are talking, so it will always be more. Sony never told us old numbers, even if they sold 200k more they would have said 40.2 million. Just look at the history of their announcements.
If you look at the statistics released since 2013, Sony has consistently outsold MS by at least 2:1 (in fact MS stopped releasing sales figures because of that fact). Sony have sold every machine that was shipped in September by now. I know you are faking ignorance to stir up trouble, but you are trying too hard.
"I know you are faking ignorance to stir up trouble, but you are trying too hard." Bingo! And he did admit to looking at my links so he knows what is going on. @Last They are. Now imagine what happens when the Pro releases.
But I thought ppl were waiting for the pro?
They are getting ready for the holidays. That's why so many have been shipped. I'm assuming millions of those shipped are PS4 Pro systems.
Your 'math' sounds idiotic considering they have consistantly averaged a million in sales every month pretty much. Not sure how you suggest there are that many sitting on shelves. In that time my store and all the ones in my city have sold out about 5-6 times each. That is down to Zero units in stock. We stock more PS4's than Xbox One easily.
so from the event in september to now they would have sold around 1.5-2 million after your logic. Which is TOTALLY my number but don't tell anyone that.
"so from the event in september to now they would have sold around 1.5-2 million after your logic. Which is TOTALLY my number but don't tell anyone that." So how did you arrive at 5+ million sitting on shelves? Please enlighten all of us on your 'math'. Because right now it seems your being dodgy because you can't explain any of the random numbers you have thrown out. You can correct us if we're wrong, but, can you show some calculations?! It seems if anything you have a baseless opinion based on shoddy half thought out reasons and your opinion.
PS4 at 47.4 million. Did Xbox One reach 25 million yet?
Why don't you ask Microsoft? They know better than anyone else how many XB1s they sold.
15+ millions. And I'm being generous there.
PS4 price should drop to 199$ and next year PS4 Pro price should be 299$. They can kill it same time Xbox Scorpio thunder and sell easily 100m PS4 and PS4 Pro units totally end of 2018. That's why PS1 and PS2 sell over 100m units on console history. That's why Wii sell over 100m units. Price is everything for console gamers and family's. (ESL guy so sorry for English)
it may be a loss at your price point, but i definitely see sony price cutting the PS4 to 249$ and the pro to 349$ near the scorpio's release.
Better then nothing :D 249$ and 349$ good price too.
@NextGenCeo yea definitely great prices, i currently own a ps4 (which i bought like a few weeks before they decreased the price by 75$ in my country (for comparison, in my country it was about 500$ and a few weeks later it was cut to about 425$ and now it may go lower cause of the slim while the pro will cost 600$, yep taxes are annoying) so i may buy it if the price will be cut down by then.
That would be stupid on Donys part. Take a loss (potentially a big loss) cause of the comp releasing a more powerful console? Ps will still sell well get your money sony. $50 price drop ya maybe but $100 when your selling like hotcakes and less than a year after releasing a new console. Sir never run a business lol.
Awesome numbers. Really got that thing selling
income falls because of price drop but I'm sure they are making the same if not more profit. if the console price went down then the cost to get the parts and create the console surely have also gone down in price
If the install base grew then yes... Because the most money is made from the software. Bigger install base = more software sold = more profit.
This is highly dubious, as September 7th Sony announced 40 million, which was down from the 43 million they announced 4 months previous. Why do they keep going back and forth between shipped and sold? Smart move to do the shipped numbers now because they've obviously shipped their holiday consoles already, which likely makes up the increase.
***This is highly dubious, as September 7th Sony announced 40 million, which was down from the 43 million they announced 4 months previous. Why do they keep going back and forth between shipped and sold?*** May 2016: Sold over 40m July 2016: Shipped 43.5m to retailers October 2016: Shipped 47.4m to retailers You have your dates mixed up. And, they announce shipped in reports, sold only about once a year during major events. Reports are for stockholders, so they care about shipped over sold. And stockholders care about how well they are planning to sell during the Holidays.
You might want to check out the PS4 Pro reveal video bro. September 7th, 2016 "40 million PS4's sold". There's no way they sold 7 more million units since that point. Especially since they've lost the past 3 NPD's and the last 2 months in the UK. Both the largest markets.
Pretty much. What I said to Video Game can also apply to this user. So that makes two.