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Why the PS4 Pro Release Date Puts Sony in Perfect Position Against Rivals

In the current console generation, being the first to release the PS4 Pro actually puts Sony in a great position against Nintendo and Microsoft.

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corroios2744d ago (Edited 2744d ago )

cheap, much more powerfull then the competition and games, huge support from 3rd party, real exclusives and all of this more then a month before Christmas (Natal).

Between the PS4, PRO and PSVR, Sony will destroy everything this holidays.

Neonridr2744d ago

and then they can work on their next task.. interstellar domination!

really? ... sony destroys everything rawwwwwwr!

The fact that the Pro is coming first gives it the biggest advantage. People are impatient and won't want to wait if the Pro can show off all the fancy bells and whistles.

Switch is in a class of its own, so it has its own market and demographic to appeal to, so it will be fine. MS is in the worst position of the 3 since they launch so much later. You have to hope that the power the Scorpio can bring to the table will eclipse the Pro in significant ways, otherwise not many people will care since the Pro looks to be a beast of its own.

Sony should do very well this xmas season with the Pro and PSVR, but let's not get carried away with the analogies ;)

NewMonday2744d ago

launching 2 major hardware in one quarter could have been a disaster for Sony but they find themselves in the perfect situation going in to the holiday season with both MS and Nintendo offering nothing.

S2Killinit2744d ago (Edited 2744d ago )

Considering that the PS4pro is a bigger power leap than the scorpio will be when it launches (compared to the consoles available) means the Pro will also have a bigger "wow" factor.

Then there is the PSVR as well. Which is the biggest incentive.

senorfartcushion2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

You're forgetting about the power difference in a power-hungry Market. Sony would give their entire stock to have the pro exchanged for a more powerful system. The market is asking for power and the most powerful will win.

I think you're all being ripped off but i know what people want to be ripped off for: power.

Terraflops for terrible monetary decisions.

Kingthrash3602743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

What? ^^^
Honestly....and this is just my opinion
But I believe when buying a gaming console....having alot of power and a little games is a rip off. The ps4p has alot of power and alot of games to back it up. How is a system that cost 399.99 a ripoff?
Put it like this, the xbox1 slim is weaker than the slim ps4....the ps4pro is 3x stronger than both of them and if you match up the 1tb memory it only costs 50$ more .....how is this a ripoff exactly? The only people thirsting for power are the people who want something to Bragg about. I used to work in retail and sold both xbox and ps4...people come in and ask which is better . I tell them "what games do you like" now well this has more power. In fact power never comes up... its always price and games. Power matters to the minority of console gamers.
Console gamers tend to look for games and price. Power is a plus but takes a backburner to price and games.

S2Killinit2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

@SenorFartCushion
Well, currently Pro is the most powerful console until scorpio arrives. Remember that today you are saying the Pro's specs aren't enough, even though it is over 2-3 times more powerful than anything else in the market. When scorpio arrives it won't have that large graphical leap, it will only be .40 more powerful than the Pro. So, considering the low price of Pro and the fact that it arrives a whole year in advance, Plus the fact that it can be coupled with VR, is a no brainer.

In other words: 1) low price, 2) bigger power gap 3) power application for VR, 4) largest library of games and largest library of games in the pipeline. It just makes sense.

bouzebbal2743d ago

PSVR is clearly becoming flagship, and Pro will only help strengthen this vision by optimising on every aspect..
I'm very tempted by pro, I'll probably get it when Horizon is out.

Goldby2743d ago

@Senor

Mark Cerny would like to say something ""One of the features appearing for the first time is the handling of 16-bit variables - it's possible to perform two 16-bit operations at a time instead of one 32-bit operation," he says, confirming what we learned during our visit to VooFoo Studios to check out Mantis Burn Racing. "In other words, at full floats, we have 4.2 teraflops. With half-floats, it's now double that, which is to say, 8.4 teraflops in 16-bit computation. This has the potential to radically increase performance.""

So not only will the ps4 pro have more power when its released within a month, as developers begin learning how to maximize its power its going to be more powerful than the scorpio.

Brute force is fun an all for making a big event, its the quiet one that you should be watching

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rlow12743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Except true 4k games and 4K video.

Kingthrash3602743d ago

Lol does "true 4k" mean native 4k?
Because it indeed has native 4k AAA like NBA 2K17 for example. ..fallout 4 and stuff.
Get your facts straight.

S2Killinit2743d ago

it has 4K video. just not 4K blueray. Also it upscales blu-ray discs to 4K screens. I haven't even seen a 4K blu-ray disc before. I think I can live without buying 4K blue-ray discs. What I want is the games and VR, and its got it.

PeaSFor2743d ago

@rlow1

you did such a majestic faceplant!

9.5/10

Skillz12152743d ago

um do you not know anything? The PS4PRO has native 4k games its not just an UHD bluray player like the xbox one s

snoopgg2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Keep waiting !!!!! I will start playing the most powerful console this November.

Tussin1872743d ago

You do know that TVs aren't true 4k either. They're actually display an image under "true" 4k. Thanks for your contribution.

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InMyOpinion2742d ago

Who cares. It's a better version of the already best console and that matters more than if it's "native" or not. I bet the games will look awesome enough either way. Just need a 4K ready TV first...

rlow12742d ago

Yes I meant native and you get your facts straight, because upscaling isn't native. Yes I meant 4k Bluerays and not that sub-par streaming crap you want to call 4k. If you spent good money on a 4k T.V. do you really want to stream crappy video to it?

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eagle212744d ago

PS4 has already won the sales race...is it really a question?

ArchangelMike2743d ago

Sony has already taken the crown this gen, there's no question about that. If there was no PSVR and no PS4Pro, Sony would've still sold more PS4 units this holiday season. Adding a cheaper Slim, PSVR and PS4Pro to the mix gives the faithful greater incentive to bank with Sony going forward into the new year.

I think Both Sony and Nintendo are offering real innovation with PSVR and Switch, while Microsoft is still just going down the "MWORE POWAA" route. I don't know about you, but playing Call of Duty or Fallout4 in 4K doesn't interest me at all. However playing Call of Duty or Fallout4 in VR... now that's a very different proposition; and Sony is poised to offer the best options for gaming going forward.

It has to be argued that Nintendo also have their finger on the gaming pulse, as there is almost unanimous praise for the versatility of the Nintendo Switch, but at this stage there are too many unknowns (battery life, wireless networking, ease of use etc etc).

If all Microsoft bring to the table next year are the same tired old games but just with higher graphics, then they'll probably lose that gen as well. I think the industry is slowly adding more value to gaming than just the 'more graphics' proposition.

2cents2743d ago

Your post sound very bias.

Kingthrash3602743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

I see alot of "ifs"
I see alot of facts
I see no bias here.
Just because he chooses not to fall for or abd goes with what he knows to be true and not speculation does not show bias.
Bias is "ps4 will always win" or " xbox has no chance because ps4p is the better console"
That would be bias...he isn't saying that here.
All I see here is truth speak.
"If all Microsoft bring to the table next year are the same tired old games but just with higher graphics, then they'll probably lose that gen as well. "
That is 100% true
Notice the key words "if" and "probably"
These words mean that he is giving MS open space to prove him wrong.
If MS brings more new exciting titles and not the same stuff we've been playing for over a decade then they have a chance to win next gen. Clearly now that halo gears and forza has all reals ed and the cancelation of fable the xbox games lineup dosent have the star power it used to have.

2cents2743d ago

Good for you king.
Good for you.

G20WLY2743d ago

You've actually made some worthwhile comments in the past, 2cents, but lately they're coming over increasingly churlish. Just an outsider's perspective..

2cents2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Thanks G2owly, but I don't need to be a member of 'the cabal' so I will always comment as I see fit, never to please or gain brownie points. Been here way to long to pander to anyone.

You think I'm churlish, that's fine.

My reply to Kings post was when it had only the first three lines.

He added the rest after my reply. Originally it was a pretty simple answer to a very short post.

Mike sound like an Xbox hater in that post, simple. Nintendo and sony have a glass half full but the Xbox glass is half empty, I see it in his post as clear as day.

Anyways, thanks for the comment.

G20WLY2742d ago

^Thanks 2cents, that makes some sense. To be clear, though, I don't think you're churlish, just a couple of your recent comments. With that said, I accept it can be hard not to react to fanboy comments, as I've been there myself. :)

2cents2742d ago

Thanks G2owly

The N4G fatigue can get the better of me from time to time. I try like you, but I'm only human. Thanks for being cool.

ArchangelMike2742d ago

I get that I might sound biased. But the real issue here is this - are Microsoft innovating in the same way that Nintendo and Sony are, in respect to Switch and PSVR. It seems that they are going for the brute force approach to gaming, which is - just throw more graphics at the screen. I hope as the gaming industry matures, as well as us gamers, that we ask for more than just higher resolutions in our games.

2cents2742d ago

I get that mike, but it's not as of Xbox has not contributed a wealth of features and services during it's tenure.

We have loads of time before Scorpio is real, who knows what deals they will put in place with existing HMD's could be a custom build version specifically for it.

We all know the current Xbox1 would be hard pressed to achieve any sort of decent VR experience but they really pulled an Ace with the X1S, you can't deny its a really accomplished bit of kit.

MS chose to focus on AR with Hololens and the dev scene is pretty interesting, that is their contribution to the future of interface. But both the Scorpio and Hololens are in development phase.

Things are coming, just not now. But the good thing is that we have PSVR, PS4S, Xbox1S, PS4PRO & Switch to keep us occupied till then.

The future roadmap is rich in content.

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rlow12743d ago

Scorpio will have VR and possibly two different choices. Plus the their updated and cheaper console can do 4k video, something Sonys new pony can't do. I do hope the VR sells well for Sony, but at $400 a pop, won't be for everyone.

S2Killinit2743d ago

lol ok ok we get it your scared.

ArchangelMike2743d ago

So how much do you think Microsoft's VR option is going to cost? Here's a thought for you, will the Scorpio plus Occulus (or Vive), be cheaper than PS4Pro + PSVR? Even if Microsoft partner with Occulus, Occulus+Touch is $800 alone. If Scorpio retails at $499, you're looking at a combined spend of at least $1,300. That's just crazy, considering you can get PS4Pro + PSVR for $850.

In your own words Microsoft's VR option won't be for everyone, especially if it cost over $1,000 for the complete package.

DeadlyOreo2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Oh great. Another person bringing up Scorpio as some sort of defense. Why do the majority of Microsoft fans get so defensive? Both consoles will be good but Scorpio is a far way off.

Anyway, can't wait. 3 weeks to go!

Ju2742d ago

I agree with you about most what you said...but I still want 4K or better visuals at 1080p. And you can get that with the Pro.

Ju2742d ago (Edited 2742d ago )

It's funny. Because Tomb Raider already got it's first 4K patch (not just to 4k patch, but "performance and image improvements in 4k mode") ;) http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

2cents2743d ago

All three are cleverly placed for release around 6months apart. Makes good marketing and business sense.
Will allow multi console gamers like myself to recover from each purchase budget for the next.

Looking forward to Switch the most right now, probably because of the novelty.
Oculus is my VR baby and I hope to use it on the Scorpio but time will tell.

Right now I am just waiting for 'The Last Guardian' :)

ShottyatLaw2743d ago

I think all 3 have advantages.

PS will see huge sales this year based on a budget-friendly slim and all the PS4 owners upgrading to Pro. PSVR will have a good year, too.

Nintendo will steal all attention in early 2017. They won't sell squat this holiday outside of Pokémon, but their base will be hungry come Spring.

The XB1s will allow MS to tread water until next Fall. They'll have the spotlight next Holiday, where they'll have a ~$200 budget machine next to the "most powerful" system between the 3.

Competition over the next 12 months is going to be fantastic for us all.

2cents2743d ago

Very true, I do think that Sony has already cemented their place as top seller overall for this holiday season for obvious reasons.

Just so glad that there is a whole years worth of gaming goodness to look forward to! So many toys :)

Jon615862743d ago

You sir speak common sense

Shineon2743d ago

way2go your positivity made N4g better

Ju2742d ago

Well, next year...Sure. But if there'll be a $200 XB, there will be a $200 PS4Slim. And depending on the Scorpio price a $299 PS4Pro...if necessary. MS will market the sh!t out of the Scorpio, but it won't have the wow effect of a first time 4k console any more. Wait 3 more weeks until the reports of games in 4K will come in...by next year, we will have seen it all.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan5h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus234h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos13h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 10h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 6h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 6h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 6h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 2h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 5h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 5h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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