Shin Megami Tensei is Pokemon for Adults

While Pokemon has better sales and is more renowned, Shin Megami Tensei is Pokemon for adults. It has superior gameplay and more depth.

[nottfadeaway]

The SMT series is great. Wish it was more popular.

[guywazeldatatt]

Because of its mature nature it's not going to reach those kinds of heights. Also, fighting God? that always gets you into trouble in the West...

though it seems to be a thing in japan.

[TheSuperiorGamer]

Every Japanese rpg in a nutshell

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

It's not simply fighting God. Shin Megami Tensei has many twists and turns revolving around three paths Law, Chaos and Neutral. My favourite thing about the series is that everything is revealed about each side, including pros and cons, so it never feels that there is a good or bad ending just a decision. Iloved earlier SMT titles because they almost felt horror themed and SMT IV Apocalypse looks to bring back alot of the the elements that were cast to the wayside due to Persona's popularity which is good.

[guywazeldatatt]

Apocalypse looks great

[Segata]

I love SMT but every JRPG you fight god

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

@Segata and Superior Gamer

There is some truth that you do fight against a god or some godlike of that particular world but never in an RPG has it been directly aimed at the Hebrew rendition (which is usually avoided to prevent controversy) and "God" isn't necessarily the only final boss because who is at the end depends on your decisions. Besides there are many gods that can be in your employ ranging from Christian to Greek. The game feels more like a clash of Eastern and Western theologies with humans being caught in the middle rather than you standard run of the mill RPG.

[Princess_Pilfer]

Tell that to final fantasy. Sephiroth is named after a concept in christian mythology, kefka decends from the heavens after you beat numerous forms of him that are christian symbols, Yevon is literally a malevolent god, In 9 you fight the god of death.

No, the reason it's not reaching any great heights is because it's generally mature. And not Game of Thrones porn-meets-final destination via Lord of the Rings "mature" or Deadpool "mature," it deals with serious and difficult adult themes which will quite deliberatly clash (at one point or another) with a persons sensabilities and personal beliefs (especially if it's allowed them to make a choice based on those things) and force them to confront some ugly truths about them, and people don't tend to like that.

[guywazeldatatt]

SMT is one of my favorites. Persona is good but I like the series proper better. Definitely like it better than Pokemon now that I've grown up, but both are great. Excited to start SMT IV Apocalypse.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

"but both are great."
Exactly, thank you.

[guywazeldatatt]

smt gives you a more grown up experience, but Pokémon is still for adults; it's like a Disney film. Or Star Wars. It's for everyone

[guywithazeldatattoo]

SMT came first. by a while. so really Pokemon is SMT for kids.

[guywazeldatatt]

this is true but I think that the idea is SMT is not nearly as popular. SMT is better though.

[TheSuperiorGamer]

Pokémon is overrated

[scottypops]

I'd agree. The hype has pretty much died down. No one I know is still playing.

[guywazeldatatt]

@scottypops Pokemon GO is pretty much dead.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The release of GO caused an upswing in sales for the series, and Nintendo's handhelds, and GO's popularity has been swinging up and down, but has never truly dropped low enough to say it's flopped. And it keeps seeing increases with each new country it releases in.
The series is not forgotten, overrated, or dead.
It's fine if you like one series over the other, but posts like that one just cause unneeded trouble.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

" It has superior gameplay and more depth."
No, it has different gameplay, and, at best, comparable depth.
Both are series that adult gamers can, and frequently do, enjoy; to chalk up Pokèmon as merely a kids game, is an opinion formed in deep ignorance of just how deep the EV training and other factors have become in Pokemon in recent years.
It's not much different, in how incorrect it is, than calling Pokèmon a kids game based solely upon the art styles used.

SMT is a great series, but this article's header sounds less like a serious attempt at evaluating either series, and more like an attempt at stirring up controversy between the two groups.
Something that has been happening FAR too often on this site, in the wake of the NX's upcoming release, to be mere coincidence.

[guywazeldatatt]

Well if you want to be technical Pokémon is smt for kids. I think the point is that smt is just mature but Pokémon is for everyone

[goldwyncq]

Or Pokemon is just Pokemon. The two series have virtually no similarity at all besides having creatures as allies.

[Red_Renegade]

c'mon, man. just admit pokemon is aimed at kids. yes, adults can enjoy it. they can also enjoy sesame street. but adults aren't the target of either of those. don't get all upset cuz you like pokemon and it's for kids. just accept it's for kids and you still like it. nothing wrong with that.

[guywazeldatatt]

smt is just for adults

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

It's nice to hear that you view it that way, but come on, man.
You know what this site is like and how it treats Nintendo games lately.
This article isn't going to be taken in the way you meant it, by most of the people around here.
It'll be treated as a derogatory term by the people around here who can't accept that kids exist in large numbers on even "mature" games these days.
This article is just blatantly flame-baiting by saying SMT has "superior gameplay and more depth", when the former is a matter of opinion and the latter is just untrue.
Calling Pokèmon "for kids" is used as an ironically immature insult on this site, and apparently on the site this article originates from as well.

You can say it's aimed at kids if you like, but surveys point towards the majority of the Nintendo fanbase being in their late teens to mid adult years.
And if the age of the crowds walking around playing Pokè-GO are any indication, that's true outside of Nintendo's handheld entries too.
Most Pokèmon fans aren't children anymore, so it isn't really fair to say it's aimed at kids.
It's not aimed at an age group; it's aimed at Pokèmon fans period.

[Segata]

Digimon Cyber Sleuth is the kids SMT game

[guywazeldatatt]

Pokémon is somewhere in there lol

[Segata]

I'm talking specific structure dungeon design presentation and such. Sleuth is pretty much an exact mimic.

[Hotabang]

last i heard, we adults still play pokemon :/

[shauzy]

Irrelevant, pokemon is also for adults, because some parts look childish but at the same time its not in an adult's point of view

[TheOldSuitedMan]

I've never heard of this series, but I like how it sounds. I'll have to check it out!