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3 Big Problems with Micro-Transactions in AAA Games

In the current generation, it seems like more than ever games are being broken into pieces to be sold back to us even after purchase. GTUK's Sam Jones looks into the worst offenders of this phenomenon and the big gameplay ramifications it has.

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sdcard4gb3162d ago

There is only one problem with microtransactions - them existing.

annoyedgamer3162d ago

The overall IQ of the buyers has dropped over the past decade or so and corporations are taking advantage of it.

_-EDMIX-_3162d ago

Exacpt we had post launch content for generations on PC. Even on console, we had "versions" of games with different content ie the series of Street Fighters. It was a way of the developer to make extra content for an existing game, if we had the storage medium, pretty sure we would have seen DLC or even a form of it generations ago on console.

Again...we had many Street Fighters coming out with a few extra characters. We had games coming out as Blank edition with a new dungeon, boss etc.

On PC, we've had such a thing since the early 90's. The first post launch content I ever bought was in the 90's for Age Of Empires 1, but we got many, many games with it before that.

I mean...buddy, its not as if we just had "smarter" gamers last gen, consumers make that choice to buy or not buy. Buying something you like isn't really under anything regarding IQ as who is buying a game based on such information?

Folks are buying games or post launch content based on something that is subjective, thus irrational by any logical means other then to have fun.

Thats it....not sure what to say. I'm not sure why you thought that some how consumers being smarter would some how mean such a thing wouldn't happen. lol

Who is buying games based on this?

eldingo3162d ago

why nitpick a diatribe on people who buy microtransactions illogical or not it seems like a waste of time.

ShakyTown3162d ago

So.... You're pretty much the only person here that is not a whiny little bitch.

Rachel_Alucard3161d ago

Expansion packs are not DLC or microtransactions. Learn the difference

fenome3162d ago (Edited 3162d ago )

I don't have any problem with microtransactions as long as they are purely cosmetic.

If they try to charge you real money for items or weapons then that's a bunch of BS. Things like that should be rewards for playing the game, you should have to earn it through progression or in game currency. Especially in multiplayer games, people should not get an advantage just for handing over some cash, it's unacceptable.

Mobile games make money hand over fist by suckering people into this kind of thing and publishers see that. It's sad that it's starting to trickle over on us now hoping to take advantage of the naive few who actually fall for these tactics.

SirBillyBones3162d ago

Cosmetics are just as bad, if not the worst. They're where it all started. The root of pure evil.

Servbot413162d ago

Cosmetics used to be free unlockables in $60 games. Them being turned into $5+ "micro"transactions is unacceptable.

_-EDMIX-_3162d ago

Can you use a modern example of a title that USED to have such items for free as upgrades that now charges for them?

Not saying you are wrong (as there has to be a case for this happening) merely at least use an example as suppose to merely assuming with nothing....

Someone once made this claim with Resident Evil.....not knowing I've played the entire series, I very much corrected them.

" Them being turned into $5+ "micro"transactions is unacceptable" Well...its not your game sooo, pretty sure you don't have any say in what is "unacceptable" or not in someone else title .

Servbot413162d ago

@EDMIX Tales of series.

_-EDMIX-_3162d ago

I mean...that is up to the user. I get the part of it unbalancing a MP title, but if the make a series of guns or levels for a game after the fact, they are free to charge for it just as much as you are free to not buy it.

fenome3162d ago

If people want to pay money for a different shirt then that's on them, I don't buy into that crap though.

I get what you're saying and I do agree it's because of things like that that started it off and now it's spread to all kinds of things.

Personally I've never paid for one single microtransaction ever, never will. Hell, I hardly ever even buy DLC unless it's an actual expansion of the base game. The only ones I've bougt so far this gen was the Witcher expansions and Bloodborne Old Hunters. I'll probably get the Uncharted 4 single player DLC when it comes out too.

Gwiz3162d ago

Should be....... Well that time of earning weapons or extra items in games is over.
I have spend some money here and there on Micro transactions but Niantic (Creators of Pokemon Go)
made me realize it's better to stay way from it (after spending money on other apps i spend the remainder money on Pokemon Go items because there was nothing else i wanted)They openly stated to no longer support the game for rooted phones.So... My advice is stay away from micro transactions.Even most cosmetic DLC and or mappacks.In some cases you get very limited access to content you paid for.

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_-EDMIX-_3162d ago

" it seems like more than ever games are being broken into pieces to be sold back to us even after purchase "

How can they sell back that in which was never legally yours in the first place? What do you mean "sold back"? When was it even yours though? My issue with this is unless they are literally selling back the exact same content and making it sound as if its new content, I don't see anything wrong with that.

I know, many hate that, but exactly what is the solution? Will any of us EVER even know what the original game even had in regards of content? Does that even matter? What they are selling is what is being offered, not every last thing being made in the studio at the time, I mean....you might as well argue that you are owed Mass Effect 4 because Bioware was working on it when they made Dragon Age 3...

If we are saying content is owed merely because it was being worked on at the time during the games development, we might as well extend that on to entire games right? When on earth did it get to the point where we were basically demanding content that was actually never even promised?

" not only allow players to pay money to shortcut their way through the entire game, but actually reach such a ludicrous point that it essentially makes playing the game entirely pointless"

For whom? The user chooses this though bud. That isn't forced on you.... I don't buy such DLC, but I don't care that it exist either. Seriously, its a stupid argument as your crying over features you don't even need to buy. You won't die because this exist...

" The Helix Credits can then be used on in-game upgrades and equipment that circumvents the normal process of earning them in-game, or as it’s otherwise known, actually playing the game. This is bad enough"

Again...why is it bad? If a user wants to do this, that is their choice. You are basically fighting against user choice, merely because it isn't your own choice. This sounds a lot like you not liking something as suppose to actually finding real "problems" in gaming. I don't even use such DLC, but again... I don't care they exist either. How is that hurting me?

"yet they’re pushed out front and center in a lot of more recent game’s promotional material" OH so don't market it because you don't like it?

Um....I see. Some logic.

eldingo3162d ago (Edited 3162d ago )

the concept itself is never the problem in theory its usually its implementation people disagree with.

I remember mass effect 3 having dlc for what was arguably one of the most important things lore wise it was for the last surviving prothean and some side content that involved him that definitely seemed exploitative considering how important to the game context wise protheans were since they were the first to try and fail to fight the reapers and since the 3rd game was basically fight the reapers it came off as even more bullshit than normal I don't know if it was cut from the base game before release but either way that kind of dlc boils peoples blood because regardless of whether it was in the base game or not they did this purposefully knowing what the content meant for the game and it was still behind the paywall.

People disagree with stuff like helix credits since its in a premium 60 dollar game its like buying cheat code dollars which if you have such shitty impulse control you could end up spending more than what you paid for the actual game yeah its optional but it was also obviously put there just to get that extra amount of money from people who don't have the patience for it by essentially again charging for cheat code money its never really something people will buy but it sure as hell reflects on ubisoft alot i love how they have buyable stuff that helps with all the side content and side missions for some of their assassin creed games it's basically the cherry on top of a shit sundae.

most people just don't give a shit about how exploitative and greedy companies are or the implications and/or precedent that they set anybody interested enough in games to follow a games news site like this frequently are aware of this and in general most people don't like it all,However like 95% (my guess probably more) of people who play games just don't care enough to look into it or actually take part in online discussion of it i mean think about all the consoles sales for the piss poor and xbone sold this generation and then compare it to the amount of individual amount of users on this site and even the consoles before in previous generations factor all of it in and you come to realize that most people just don't care even if they play the games and buy the consoles,

However when i get the chance i always warn people to avoid shit like this because its a fucking rip off and is one of the most blatant milking for money from lazy people iv'e ever seen i do it because i don't like it thats the opinion iv'e held for about 5 years and its the one im gonna continue with forward because i look at this from a buyers point of view not the company making it and peddling it something you seem to do alot we get it they want money people aren't surprised about something like this happening but they are still gonna bash it regardless of you defending it in depth even though you don't care about or buy it according to yourself.Anyway you don't have to buy a shitty ripoff in the game your playing to see what it is and understand the intent behind it's implementation and i always warn people who ask me to avoid that shit.

@ShakyTown welcome to the internet pal people have opinions they will express on it if theirs anything you didn't like about what i said im open to debate instead of just a dismissive insult like so many smug randies do on the internet if you have something specific you wanna say to me say it don't waste my time with pointless dismissals.

ShakyTown3162d ago

Aww... Poor baby, what a horrible world you live in.

ShakyTown3162d ago

The real problem is that you're all idiots most likely born in the last 20 years with no concept of inflation or rising development costs in game production.

-Foxtrot3162d ago

Really? Because I thought the reason was people like you saying stupid shit like that which makes developers f*** us all over...since you know thanks to you guys they think we don't mind.

All you guys are doign is making shit like this PART of the industry, like it's the "norm". Well I'm sorry to say it's not and shouldn't be.

Jesus comments like that make me feel sad...soon younger gamers will grow up to believe it is the norm thanks to the like of you guys and older gamers who remember the good old days will be stuck with a horrible, new consumer screwing industry.

ShakyTown3162d ago

Really? It's you who will bring this industry to it's knees. Whiny entitled cry babys who want everything for free.
Super Mario 3 cost the equivalent to anywhere between $80-$90 when it released and was made by a team of 10-12 people. Destiny has a team of nearly 500 people along with ridiculously high production costs. Yeah... $60 sounds about right.

Rachel_Alucard3161d ago

Our industry is doomed if we have apologists sucking off the publishers like you. Act like a consumer instead of a corporate shekel shaker.

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RPG players don't want to pay for DLC, new survey from Obsidian says

PC Aficionado: "Obsidian published a survey in early October, asking for responses from players concerning DLC. Now, 55,000 responses have been noted, and the final results are out."

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bigmalky2750d ago (Edited 2750d ago )

Nobody wants to pay for DLC... Tell that to the idiots who are killing gaming by buying into the current microtransactiin trend without a fight.

I'm willing to pay for expansions. Those things we used to get that were of proportionate price to the base game's content and was worth the money.

fenome2750d ago

Exactly, I'll happily pay for DLC that actually adds to the base game, new areas, enemies, etc.. Actual chunks of gameplay. I'll support developers that actually put in work to enhance the base game.

This bullshit MT crap that takes no effort from the devs and paying real money for things that are left up to RNGesus just needs to stop.

FPS_D3TH2750d ago

Looking at you... overwatch

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Many-hat52750d ago (Edited 2750d ago )

They'll use this to plan future DLC. Yep, lots of small games with loads of DLC is incoming. Just MT's to get them used to now. Nearly, there guys. Way to kill the industry.

GrimReaperGamer2750d ago (Edited 2750d ago )

Fvck DLC. Either put the content in the base game or piss off.

Yeah I'm talking to you EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc.

Goldby2750d ago

i think you are mistaken, DLc in the forms of expansions are welcome, its the stupid MT that needs to crawl into the corner

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Zelda: Breath of the Wild Champions' Ballad DLC Listed for December

Been wondering where that Champions Ballad DLC is for Breath of the Wild? Well, Nintendo confirmed it's coming December...on the European eShop only.

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derkasan2753d ago

Good timing - other than Xenoblade 2, nothing's really coming out during that time.

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Neonridr2753d ago

awesome.. I would expect it to release around the same time in NA too. Can't wait!

wonderfulmonkeyman2752d ago

December, eh?
Guess I'll likely be taking a brief break from Xeno mid-to-late December, then.
No way am I missing out on the very first ever post-game content that the Zelda series has ever had.

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Is it Justified for Companies to Charge for DLC today?

Looking at the industry trend of charging for DLC after a game is released and if it is justified for companies to do so

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strayanalog2763d ago

This is tricky. In my opinion, I feel like DLC should be free because we purchased a game, a finished product, for 60+ dollars, so things like Day One DLC shouldn't exist. On the other hand, I understand this is a business and that development is expensive, and expanding a product instead of making another one is good capital.
What I think would help is if the community was met halfway with a reinvention of the downloadable content system. Give the content we purchase certain standards, kind of like Day One DLC isn't permitted. If Season Passes are purchased, then the customer must have an outline of what they are purchasing, and if the individual didn't want everything in the outline then he/she could drop what they didn't like for a cheaper fee.‎ Also, while I'm in the land of never ending possibilities, a rewards incentive is made for a certain amount purchased from all the developer's games released (which can also be carried over from system to system or gen to gen), like buying 10 DLC packs gives you one free. This way we both get what we want: they get some money and we don't feel taken advantage of.‎

blackblades2763d ago

Wish we got some dlc free, at least get some of it free by getting platinum. Wish some dlc was priced good cause costume prices high as hell. If we can get dlc on sale alot like the games then I would buy dlc at that cheap price. At the end of the day it's best just to wait for goty/complete edition or price drop of the ultimate edition to combat them.

strayanalog2762d ago

Completely agree, blackblades. Waiting truly is the best option these days, and speaking with our wallet tends to work. Just wish it worked faster.

datriax2763d ago

Given that companies used to release DLC back in the late 90s and early 2000s for free as "supporting their product" for extended appeal? No, it's not justified, and never was.

Full on expansions are entirely different, but this bite-sized DLC bulls**t became popular with the biggest caner of them all, Call of Duty and their bulls**t map packs.

Once these companies discovered just how stupid the average "gamer" (and I use that term loosely) was, it was straight to the bank. Now look at where that first step has gotten us to today.

Rachel_Alucard2762d ago (Edited 2762d ago )

Microsoft started the bite sized DLC trend. They had a marketing strategy that they pushed back when live was founded and they stated that they believed more money could be made selling things in pieces rather then a full on expansion. The first Xbox live title released had paid DLC and cut up in this exact fashion back in Nov 2002.

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SurgicalMenace2763d ago

Of course, as consoles have inched closer and closer to PC, in recent years, it makes since when considering the existence of expansion packs. Why should they not, as it is always an option not a requirement.

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