The PlayStation 4 Pro is the Most Pointless Console Ever

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Yesterday during the PlayStation Meeting Sony lifted the veil on the PlayStation 4 Pro, an upgraded version of their flagship system that sports the ability to play games in 4K and in HDR (High Dynamic Range)… and that’s about it. The internet’s knee jerk reaction was tremendous ‘meh’ as Sony unveiled their plans for the future of the PlayStation 4 and it’s easy to see why – the PlayStation 4 Pro barely offers any improvement over the standard model and what it does do that’s new is either already already available in other devices, not a guarantee that it will be supported going forward or just plain useless.."

[iNathan]

You really need a life so you can stop writing such bs.

[Relientk77]

And this website has zero credibility

Congratulations

[Genuine-User]

This is just the start. We're going to see a lot more of these misinformed type of articles telling us how pointless good IQ, enhanced graphics and better frame-rate really are.

Enthusiasts have it all wrong.

[s45gr32]

Stop defending Sony. Why waste $800.00 for outdated consoles. Really, pay $400.00 for UPSCALE 4K come on and the fact that HDR is coming to base PS4. If the games are upscaled to 4K it will only run at 30-25fps. That is so powerful. Is cash grab no matter how you slice it. For crying out loud the AMD RX480 OFFERS NATIVE YES NATIVE, NATIVE 4K RESOLUTION 60 FPS for $200.00. So much for the power of the PS4 Pro. You better off buying off the Scorpio (don't own a gaming PC), at least you are getting 4K resolution 60 frames per second.

[Xb1ps4]

At s4gr32

If all you needed was a graphics card.... that would be an amazing deal. Sadly you are missing a lot of parts to finish off that pc... and how much do 4k monitors cost again? Right....

[Unspoken]

Well you could already have a computer? Kind of like you might already have a PS4 lol

So not missing much and can save money by buying a faster GPU. You have PC and XBox games to play from. That sound's like the better route especially if you want better image quality.

Even the XB1S has UHD playback and is cheaper.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

@s45gr32
For someone that apprently owns a gaming pc you promote the scorpio alot... i think you might be talking out your arse about owning a pc, just saying.

[babadivad]

I see articles like this all the time about X1. Hell, the top story here is PS4 Pro is the nail in the coffin of the X1.

This site is full of fan boys, you just have to deal with it.

[4Sh0w]

Flamebait Headline, but whatever this is n4g.

Definitely wouldn't say its pointless, fact is if you're ready to play console games in a HIGHER RES NOW than 1080p, (not native 4K) then PS4Pro is a good buy. Honestly though I thought Sony should have pushed the spec's/capabilities/hardwa re of the PS4Pro more than they actually did.

[Xb1ps4]

Jeez... I'm more of a Xbox guy my self but I did have a ps4, kind of still do just gave it to my son in anticipation to get the ps4 pro. Now with the xb1s and pro I'm not going to upgrade the Xbox I'd rather upgrade the ps4 and wait for scorpio because at the end of the day I would rather play 4k games, even if it's upscale or however ps4 pro makes it happen then to have a bruhd at the moment..

The ps4 has upgraded it's hardware that will already make great looking games look even better in 4k... how is that pointless? And The Damn Thing Is 400!

I don't understand how so many "gamers" are downplaying 4k.. I feel like I'm one of the very few that just can't wait for 4k and especially scorpio I want my eyes to bleed in glorious 4k games cause this gen graphics have been good but we sure as hell didn't make a big jump from last gen..

So here's to my few fellow gamers that just can't wait for November 10 and scorpio...

[BQ32]

I am realizing more and more all the time that a large segment of "gaming enthusiast" can't afford to be the enthusiast in that equation. Therefore instead of admitting the benefits of awesome tech they probably will not get, they instead downplay it as to not damper their own personal experience. Example, almost everyone that tries the PSVR gives it rave reviews yet their are still legions of people saying it is a gimmick or pointless because they can either not afford it, or chose Microsoft and don't want to support both systems. Therefore downplaying the PSVR eliminates the dissonance within their own value system.

[pompombrum]

Not if you own a 4k tv it isn't.. while I have a few gripes myself, it's a nice mid-cycle console upgrade that comes in at a very reasonable price point.

[Army_of_Darkness]

And not to mention being able to play all upcoming games at 1080p /60fps is gonna be awesome! Looking at you uncharted 4!

[itsmebryan]

Please link to where Sony says all games will be 1080p@60fps . In their new 4K console.

[Death]

If the developer codes their game to take advantage of the hardware 1080p/60fps shouldn't be a problem. The issue we are seeing is devs are making games for the PS4 and porting to the Pro without any tangible gains. I would hope over time this won't be the norm. Right now the only ones seeing improvements will be 4K HDR owners on select games. 1080p owners won't benefit enough to warrant an upgrade. New PS4 owners have the choice between PS4 or PS4 Pro at a higher price. It's a very odd launch for a mid-gen upgrade.

[RedDevils]

You'll be in for a big disappointment if it doesn't right?

[uth11]

They never promised that. It's up to the developer. Multiplayer games will run at the same FPS as PS4 so nobody has an unfair advantage.

[s45gr32]

It does provide information please

[LexHazard79]

@death, thats not true. Was I the only one who saw the conference when they were showing some 4K upscale footage and also some 1080p enhancements. So its worth it...also get the system now and then upgrade tv later on. Im not gonna read anymore of these, if you dont have a 4K tv its not worth it. So is a game running on 1080p on a gtx 750 gonna look the same as a game running at 1080p on a gtx 780? Serious question becausr I dont have a PC. But I just want to know.

Also btw...I like to game on monitors and was wondering if a 4k 28" will show some of those improvements.
Also does anyone know if the PRo can do 21:9? Thanks

[Juiceid]

Wasn't this article written just a couple of months ago about the Xbox S? It really must not be hard to create a gaming website and create pointless articles just to justify your existence.
Look, if they build it people will buy it. Goes for anything in this world. Shoes, tech, cars, etc. not everyone will want one, not everyone could use one, not everyone can buy one. For those people willing to depart with their money for anything, that's up to them. No need to judge or bash.

[s45gr32]

If it was native 4K 60 frames per second for $400.00. Then yes this article would be anti-Sony bias article; however, it does not offered what I stated. The PS4 Pro offers:

UPSCALE UPSCALE UPSCALE 4K resolution at 30-25 frames per second

HDR which is coming to base PS4

That is it, no new gaming features, no new technologies, no new ways to play games. How can I defend it.

Smartphones:

PC browser capabilities with PDF support
NATIVE NATIVE NATIVE 4K RESOLUTION
4K Netflix, Amazon, etc
Able to record 4K homemade videos
Basic video editing

Even a smartphone offers so much more than the PS4 Pro, that is 😢.

The AMD RX480 offers native 4K plus 60 frames per second for $200.00

Again only fools or corporate slaves defend corporations, not true gamers

[superchiller]

Simple solution: use your smartphone for all your gaming, should work fine for your needs. Casual gamers like you don't need a real gaming console.

[Stevonidas]

@s45gr32

Name ONE game (AAA, not Indie, and not some MOBA with a fixed isometric camera) that runs at 4K resolution fully maxed on a RX480.

I'll wait.

[BQ32]

Your the one looking like a fool lmao. RX480 running native 4k at pus 60. Obviously you don't actually own the tech and have very little understanding of it's capabilities. the 1080 is the current beast and even that struggles to run 4k over 60. I bet your voting for Trump.

[babadivad]

@Stevonidas

Doom on Vulcan. But that's probably the only one. The 480 isn't built to be a 4k card

[Section8]

Most 4k tv's don't support HDR

[freshslicepizza]

it is mostly used to help psvr.

[Goldby]

its mostly used to enhance the experience playing games.

[freshslicepizza]

Certain games and it will depend on each game. Tomb Raider well allow 3 different variations but what about Bloodborne?

[Goldby]

What about Bloodborne,
They haven't talked about it, but i bet it will be increasing the resolution of assets, probably make the blood splatter more vibrant to offset the Lovecraft Victorian Gothic setting.

[mad-dog]

It's not even pointless if you have a 1080P TV (or projector).
And it's better for VR.

For people who don't have a PS4 yet, but also for people who like the extra fidelity and effects.

[pompombrum]

How is it better for vr? I was having problems with the stream and might have missed them mentioning it in context to psvr.

[Goldby]

increased vidual fidelity and assets for PSVR, and also allows for higher framerates before the HMD reporjects it

[mad-dog]

increased vidual fidelity and assets for PSVR, and also allows for higher framerates before the HMD reporjects it
;)

[MasterCornholio]

A PS4 useless?

Wow that's going to far.

Lots of people enjoy their PS4s and I'm sure plenty will enjoy the Pro as well.

[Goldby]

well its all in context.

if i wanted to butte bread and use the ps4 pro as the butter, yes it would be useless... speciallyonce i put it in the microwave.

if you wanted to enhance your experience, than no the ps4 pro isnt useless

[moegooner88]

"the PlayStation 4 Pro barely offers any improvement over the standard model".

Wow, it can't be that difficult to Google something, saves you the embarrassment of coming off as utterly clueless.

[Destiny1080]

anything whats not xbox is pointless

the ps4-pro is 3x more powerful supports HDR and has checkerboard rendering for 4k upscaling has a 1TB hard drive and only costs an extra 50 bucks compared to the 1TB S-model

it will also have native 4k games on day one

[Goldby]

dont count the native 4k

i would much prefer 1440p with 60fps instead of 4k 30

[BlackTar187]

It won't have Native 4k. Where ever you saw that misinformed you.

[_-EDMIX-_]

So you've basically predicted every game that's going to release in the future? Lol

4K native is actually up to the developers creating games are you seriously telling me you're as slow as to believe that if someone made a Minecraft looking game couldn't get it running in native 4K?

O_o?

Yet Wipeout HD on PlayStation 3 runs native 1080p 60 frames. I would hold your horses on saying it "won't have" something that you're completely unaware of , I'm sorry but you do not know of one hundred percent of all developers that are creating content for PlayStation 4 to actually say that's not going to happen, it's a very stupid statement and maybe you should really slowly think about what you're trying to say.

[Bennibop]

@blacktar elder scroll and the last of us have been confirmed as native.

[BlackTar187]

i stand corrected then. I apologize

[M-M]

Alright, these articles are getting a bit ridiculous now.

[2cents]

It's only the first few days too!

Things are going to get tedious FAST.

[Overload]

I would argue the Xbox One and Scorpio are more pointless since all of the games are available to play on PC. You could literally build an equivalent to Scorpio that plays all the games tomorrow.

[sammarshall102]

The Scorpio will will also push PC gaming because consoles are the baselines in game development

And no thank you about PC gaming

[guyman]

Your comments are about as relevant, If not, less relevant than spam

[2cents]

I wouldn't call it pointless.

This is the perfect console for many, especially with PSVR. If I didn't have an oculus I would get this day one!

But I do, so I won't. But is not the case for millions of PS gamers who want new toys!

[cyber_daemonx]

But the Scorpio isn't?

Hmmm I smell double standards.

[sammarshall102]

The Scorpio will have more pronounced differences in graphics and framerates over the PS4 P

[BlackTar187]

yes you're right and it will come out in 14 months and most likely cost $500 min but most likely $600.

You're not getting UHD + 6TF + RAM Upgrade for a decent price.

[guyman]

O but when the ps4 was (and still most certainly still is) pushing games with higher FPS and resolution than the Xbox one, it didn't count am I right?

[cyber_daemonx]

@guyman, exactly. Seems suddenly graphics do matter.

Double standards indeed.

[tealive]

So, the Xbox is better?

[subtenko]

I hope noone clicked this article. So much bs.. also Id give that 1 to the OUYA

[2cents]

Ouya... lol.

Forgot all about that one.

[Overload]

Never forget.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[--bienio--]

Sony PlayStation is a cancer for gaming industry.

[Skankinruby]

Riiiiight

[BlackTar187]

If cancer is the word you'd use for the better more consistent games in terms of quantity and quality that can be measured by a statistical matrix and not a WELL THE GAMES ARE NO BETTER FOR ME then i welcome cancer.

[guyman]

And bieno is the village idiot of the comment section (neck and neck with sammarshal)

[PlayableGamez-]

Ps4 slim says hi

[Apex13]

The pro is very pointless. They would have been better of telling the truth that AMD changed their chips and would cost them more and that they also needed it to run PS VR properly as the PS4 will not give you great performance of VR. bar that this is basically playing catch up to the XBOX ONE S and Sony just look stupid unless your a fanboy. It's not even native 4K. SMH you

[superchiller]

The salt is strong in this one.

[firelogic]

This was always supposed to be a mid-gen upgrade. It's a more premium PS4. That's why it's still carrying the PS4 moniker. It's weird that people expected a beast of a machine while still being a PS4 and costing a mere $400.

MS is out there blathering about how they have the most powerful console ever made but...it's not out for at least a full year. What they have right now is nothing. And MS wowed the gaming world by spewing out beastly specs but they missed on crucial detail. Price. Do you think the "most powerful console ever made" is going to cost $400 or less? You're dreaming. That's a guaranteed $500+ console. It doesn't even matter really because a year after the Pro, MS is going to be playing catch-up again. A full year of sales. A full year of games released for Pro. A full year of older games patched for Pro. A full year closer for Sony's next console. Honestly, how stupid does MS think their potential audience is? "We clearly have the power advantage." Um no you don't. What we have here is a tangible PS4 Pro that's being demoed by actual people that's going to be on store shelves in 2 months vs vaporware. Sony is the one that has the most powerful videogame console ever made (console, not PC).

[Chaos_Order]

I feel the same way. All the improved specs in the world can't persuade me to buy an upgraded version of a console I already own. And even if I didn't, getting a base PS4 at a lower price point would be my choice. Same games with slightly better visuals? Why? Plus I have no 4K TV, and I have little interest in VR, so yeah, the Pro does nothing for me.

[s45gr32]

If nobody can see how the PS4 pro is a cash grab. Then I am done with the Playstation community

[DragonDDark]

No one will miss you.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I know right bro especially since Microsoft and Nintendo are always doing their cash gives, you know where you buy a console and the box is filled with money along with the platform. /s

If PlayStation 4 Pro is a cash grab what is Xbox One S? What is Scorpio? I mean do you not understand the concept of business is to make money in exchange for product or?

[Destiny1080]

they make next to zero on hardware, so please explain why you think its a cash grab

[superchiller]

@ s45 - Don't let the door hit your fat a$$ on the way out.

[Silly gameAr]

I wish your friends felt the same way. There would be less bs in the comment sections.

[TwilightSparkle]

Shhhh this is a sony website. You arent suppose to have an opinion about ps unless its good -_-

[Silly gameAr]

You're freaking crazy if you believe that. You have eyes? Can you read? I suggest you look again before you bring up the N4G is a Sony website garbage.

[TwilightSparkle]

All i see is black and blue theme. And everyone that has a negative opinion about sony they get bashed.

[kevnb]

Its not, but its being poorly marketed (or maybe poorly supported as well). Games locked at 30 fps should now run at 60 fps and games like witcher 3 should play more like they do on pc, but I fear there just wont be proper support.

[BlakHavoc]

Technically it is pointless from a consumers point of view, there's no need for the slim and pro to exist separately. They could have just combined the two consoles and released the slim with all the pros internals baked into the console (like MS did). However I understand why they didn't, when your brand is experiencing success at the rate that PS is right now, you'd rather give ppl another reason to spend their money on a product of yours. Creating a do it all console would have been a better idea but not a good business strategy imo (or maybe it'll turn out to be bad business in the end). Same reason Apple continues to release a new phone every 6 months with minor upgrades, they know ppl will buy it regardless. Sony basically just has two separate consoles that do what the X1S does, instead of selling an all in one unit at $300, they can create two separate units and sell them at $300 and $400 and likely profit from both.

[mastershredder]

Pointless, yet it goes into production.

Yeah, can we stop with the romper room , 'I'm mad because I wet myself, but it's not my fault' articles?

[superchiller]

I have a better title for this article: "Link-cable.com is the most pointless website ever".

[opinionated]

It's true. The Xbox s is miles better than the OG. It makes upgrading a necessity. The pspro is nothing special, there is very little reason to upgrade especially at those prices. However, it is a testament to how good the OG ps4 is. That's why the upgrade is pointless and the XB is significantly better. You can get a Xb slim with UHD bluray cheaper than you can a ps slim without. Sony is slacking because they can afford too but Microsoft is making good moves.

[GearSkiN]

so people who buys the pro with their 4k tv is happy that the system doesn't support 4k bluray??? coz i wouldn't...

[danny818]

Having too many options may be a good or bad thing. Pro will enhance gaming but which games?! When the Scorpio comes out which games will take full advantage of the system?! WHen scorpio lands there will be 3 different types of consoles. As a consumer im confused and thats not good.

[Mr_Writer85]

I'd argue that's the WiiU, a console without a constant supply of games is pretty pointless.

Same applies to the Vita..

[superchiller]

Vita is still getting a decent supply of games, far more than the Wii U which is essentially dead.

[cyx]

Lmfao @ these negative articles. Bitch and whine all day . how is it pointless ? No uhd blu ray drive ? Get over yourselves. People talking how the xbox s being better because of uhd drive support thats just retarded. Ps4 pro is pointless because its 2wice as powerful as a ps4? Apparently its not enough but i thought people didnt want a next generation jump so whats the complaint now? If its 2wice as powerful its a problem but if its too powerful its still a problem because of a generation jump so what did you people expect? Theres just no pleasing people. Last time i checked something 2x more powerful was nothing to scoff at especially if the original power of the ps4 was unrivaled. So please tell me how its pointless compared to you know the xbox one s that isnt much different from its predecessor but because it has uhd drive support people (not real gamers) are going nuts. In my opinion i do not plan on touching anything xbox related until scorpio drops. In my opinion its the xbox one s was pointless. Ill let you guys know what the deal is once my ps4 pro comes in and ill be a pioneer along with the other pro owners on the road to 4k gaming while the rest wait for their so called savior, scorpio , to come.

[captainexplosion]

If Sony doesn't stop emphasizing half-assed 4K that appeals to very few and doesn't start emphasizing 1080P, 60FPS and improved VR I'm inclined to believe it's pretty pointless.

[Hugodastrevas]

Little typo there, you wrote Xbox One wrong.
No need to thank me.

[Masta Kaos]

This article is the most pointless article ever....

[madmonkey01]

currently the most powerful console in existence, thats apoint right, seeing as power is all the talk again.

[hiawa23]

This article is nonsense. I love my 1S, I also have the X1 and PS4 launch models which I am trading in for a Pro. It isn't useless to this console only gamer.

[DafunkyRebel]

How is it pointless? If you are like me and plan on getting a PS4 for God of War, getting a pro is perfect. Even though I don't own a 4K TV yet I can still get the Pro for the same price as a launch PS4 and still be able to play 1080p game at higher processing rate than the standard PS4 meaning less lagging and more fps. Of couse once I upgrade to 4K I can enjoy GOW in glorious 4K

[Master of Unlocking]

"the PlayStation 4 Pro barely offers any improvement over the standard model"

It's a joke or what? What are the improvements when it comes to the Xbox One S compared to the original Xbox One? Slightly smaller, right big feat right there, given the size of the original one, and 4K BR support, which doesn't even work right now if I'm not mistaken. If there's a power increase it sits at 1% at best. The Xbox One S is exactly an Xbox One coupled with a UHD BR player.
The PS4 Pro is smaller than not only the original PS4, Xbox One, but also Xbox One S, has more than double the amount of power of the original PS4, which amounts to more than 3 times the power of the Xbox One S. It not only reads upscaled 4K games, but also native 4K games, has HDR, better internet, better controller, and support for digital 4K content.

How is it the most pointless console ever again? Ah, but I see, it's just one of those headlines by some no-name site to serve as click bait in the wake of Sony's announcement, just like many others...

[Nathan_Hale53]

By that logic, the Scorpio is pointless. 60fps 1080p is great and, even though I prefer better framerate, 4k if you want.

[GrmpyolGamer]

The Ps4 Pro is a Half measure primarily meant to boost VR. Seems redundant in my opinion but I'm sure it will sell well out of the gate as most hardware does. I disagree that its the most pointless console ever tho. Atari Jaguar, Neo Geo, Apple Pippin are a few that spring to mind. I'm sure there is more as well. Ps4 Pro is pointless unless you are planning on investing in PSVR

[Petebloodyonion]

Is the Ps4pro useless?
No the console is the normal evolution of the ps4, like the new 3ds, the Nintendo 64 ram cartridge.

What I do see as a fail is the how Sony's marketing the Ps4Pro.
1) Sony should have come clean at E3 regarding the Pro as a similar upgrade to the one. The waiting game as created some really high expectations for the console

2) It's a distraction to PS Vr that will be coming next month

3) It's confusing for the consumers (for what's the difference between all model) and this can be easily proven by the fact that Sony need a FAQ explaining it on the Sony's website.

[NohansenBoy]

But people will still buy. Maybe ignorant parents/grandparents not knowing the difference or just devoted people back pedaling on the whole "you don't need to upgrade a console every 2-4 years!"