With the Playstation 4 Pro heading for a November release and Microsoft’s new Xbox, codenamed Project Scorpio, on the horizon for next year, consumers are stuck with a question – do you need or want one?
well, you're in luck. if you don't need 4K, there's the standard PS4 (Slim) or the XBox One...
"enough" people want the PS4 Pro, so if it is only 25% out of 40 million that makes it 10 million who are most likely the premium costumers, and they would want to hold on to them.
I still find little to no reason to get the Pro, I rather get the Scorpio if I want a big upgrade, as I don't own an X1. Beside the OG Ps4 did almost everything that the Pro can do, It can play VR just like the Pro except not as smooth. The only way the Pro can get me to buy it if the OG PS4 cannot play the game on the PRO.
@RedDevils that's the beautiful thing, you don't have to buy it if the PS4 is good for you, they specifically made it to be this way, it's made to satisfy those who want more right now, like me. or those holdouts who want a bigger reason to upgrade. America has mostly upgraded but in the rest of the world -specifically Asia- the PS3 is still popular and getting major releases like Persona 5. with the double deal of a cheap Slim and more powerful Pro Sony want to push harder for the Asian market, it's why they did a special Asian presentation the same day of the Pro reveal that had many bundles.
Based on sales it's more like 5%-10% BTW basing this on sales for exclusives. Which is what the hardcore fans tend to go for.
It makes sense for new customers, but early adopters who have the PS4 or day one Xbox One get screwed. I wish they'd just waited a year and put out a whole new generation.
Well PS4 Pro isn't really 4k either...
neither will Scorpio, a GTX 1070 couldn't push Rise of the Tomb Raider past 31 fps @ native 4K and High Detail setting and that's a 6.46 TF card and they're claiming Scorpio will do 60 fps? maybe if they bump the specs more...
No it isn't but you see you'll still get disagrees. Remember be a zombie and repeat after me. 4KKKKKKKayyyyy @malice We don't know what card they have in the Scorpio... We know some of the work in progress specs.
I wanna see what it does in sales when it comes out. That'll prove if people wanted it or not and if they care about it not having a ultra blueray drive.
"most people"? are there statistics that back up this generalization?
are you expecting journalist to do.... "research"?
The PS4 pro and scorpio arent even targetting the mass market anyway, they are premium models. People wanted more power, they got it. It is for those people.
There never is. Just their perception...cries of no one asked for this, everyone has multiple consoles, or no one buys a specific consoles for 3rd/1st party games(take your pick). Facts that can't be easily obtained and proven are mired in superlatives and speculation taken as fact.
How about the millions that don't own one? Did you consider them? lol
How about the 40m people that own the PS4, and is not in the hurry to upgrade?
And how about the 40m people that own a PS4 and do want to upgrade? I know I do!
That just means that Sony designed a system with some long legs. Which isn't a bad thing. But like Aenea says there are bound to be current PS4 owners who want something like the Pro. Same goes for new owners as well
As someone who recently got a 4K/HDR TV this is, in fact, exactly what I want.
haha the money you spent on that tv plus a new console could have built you a pc capable of much more, lolol
It's all based on your own preference. Some people like the livingroom experience, so why not get what you want?
and how would he play the PC without the screen? or do you suggest playing a high end PC on a cheep 15' monitor?
Yep, indeed, except that PC setup is hard to watch TV and movies on and isn't, in most homes, in the living room.... Besides, many console gamers have a reason to play on a console instead of a PC, otherwise everyone would be a PC gamer instead....
I like playing on a big screen TV and I prefer the simplicity inherent in the console design, chillax
Why are some PC gamers so anxious to insult console gamers while at the same time beg them to become PC gamers?
Look at this... Now everyone is saying that pc is not for everyone and console owners don't want pc... But when it was in regards to the Xbox.... Yup everyone wants a pc instead. The upgrade is unnecessary unless there are either exclusives and/or games on the standard Ps4 begin to perform much much worse.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all week. If they wanted a PC, they would be talkikng about a PC. They are talking about a gaming console and a TV. not the same thing.
I'd rather build a PC. These mid generation console upgrades are going to set a very bad precedent if it turns out to be successful.
Like with dlc and micro transactions... It seems some gamers will never learn until it's too late. Buying either pro or Scorpio... Unless there's exclusivity... It's like saying to Sony and Microsoft that they can release as many iterations of a console as they want. And slowly but surely begin to force people to upgrade everytime in order to experience a game as it should be.... Right now they're shutting down all the concerns by saying.... No one is getting left behind and the games will work on both, etc... We've yet to see what will actually happen.
Oh so you speak for most people now. Good to know. s/
Considering all the people who have bought an Xbox One S so far, I'd say that's not even remotely true.
exactly how many is that? oh, that's right, Microsoft never release numbers.
says who exactly? it seems to me people are pretty pumped about them...
Good news for you is that Scorpio doesn't come out for another year ;)
I'd buy the new consoles just for exclusives running 1080p at 60fps. Plus additional features like better shading, textures, draw distance, etc.
So now graphics matter but when PC gamers were talking about graphics it doesn't matter. That upgrades is a huge con towards PC gaming but is ok for consoles. Come on, don't you see the hypocrisity of it all.
Well if you have yet to purchase either console, it really shouldn't matter to you. You can either buy a cheaper slimline version of either console or purchase the more premium version.
Yeah pretty stupid in my opinion. Current consoles are only 3 years old. Wait another 2 more yours won't hurt.
Only console I'm interested in right now is the Nintendo NX. Already own a PS4 and have no use for an X1 since I have a solid PC rig as well.
I hope you are right. Enough for these corporations to treat gamers like husks.
YES we do!
Yah if $400 in three years breaks the bank for you guys I am truly sorry.
speak for yourself. i'll gladly take more powerful consoles. do i need them? no. but i didn't need the launch versions of the consoles now either. i just wanted them. i think the only things we truly need are food, water, sleep, shelter and money. oh and maybe clothes. definitely clothes. for the love of god... clothes.
But some do want a new ps or xb
Maybe because most people have not upgrade their tv into 4k with hdr yet.
Well better is better, if I can get a console that is better than the one I own right now, even if its a slight improvement, and I can afford it? Im gonna buy the better console even if it means holding on to my first console or selling it. Newer is better, and people do this with cell phones already. If its better and I can afford it... Im in
I wonder if we will ever see something sign a two year agreement to xbox live at a higher rate and get a console for $1 or $100. I hope not, but I could see it happening.
Well then they ALL need to stop crying about 1080p/60fps/4k when every single new game releases. The reason these new consoles exist are completely down to complaining gamers and "media outlets" instigating such complaining.
Agreed. And sites like digital foundry that compare everything and nitpick every little detail. like to focus on performance and people blindly trust the results. slightly lower perforance doesn't game any less fun.
Exactly right! It's hilarious/infuriating seeing the same people who constantly complaining about resolution and fps complain about the existence of the Pro and Scorpio.
lOl, I love how these N4G "bloggers" take their opinion and apply it to the masses, I own 2 4k TVs and I have a PS4 that's probably 3-6 months away from the HDMI port giving out completely and guess what I'll be doing in November.... EXACTLY UPGRADE BABBYYYY.... I'm sure there's others like me and or others with 4k TVs looking for that next edge. Also, seeing that i'm getting PSVR it only makes sense to buy the best PS4 to play it on. duhhh smh...
I'm with you there, I haven't even had my Sony 4K TV for a year yet and I'm already looking to upgrade because it lacks HDR. Probably my own fault, it is a rather "entry level" set... although at £800 a rather pricey one!
I like this change in pace. I'd not buy a new phone every year but there are people that will and people that still haven't upgraded. So in another three years, I'll be more open to upgrade my launch day PS4 if the jump is considerable enough. Right now it's not for me but they're not aiming at my demographic perhaps. Those still on next gen now have more reason to jump on to either XBs or PSs or PSPro. Those upset by this will also not be the target demographic and will not buy this time but will probably fall in line in another 3 years when the next updated roll out. The pace of technology and consumer demand for it is considerably greater than when PS3/X360 launched. Apple literally invented the current upgrade cycle for their phone tech and now this is transcending in to other industries. Right now, if I was the target demo and about to buy either one I'd be swayed by where my community is now. That is the larger hurdle for Xbox to overcome. So many people left. You can open the best bar in the world but if my mates don't go then neither will I. It's good for the industry as a whole I think and exciting for us!
Yeah, I'm good. I'll wait on PS5.
and they don't need to buy it if they don't need it right now. All games will be released on PS4 as well as on PS4 Pro. No need to switch if you are happy with your current console :) We will see if Sony can sell enough. If they are selling like crazy I guess this is what people want. There are always those who want the latest smartphone, the latest graphic card, cpu, etc. Every year Apple is selling their iphone for a bucket full of money and they still do it today.
He's speaking on behalf of 'Most people' apparently. Gotta love when 'Journalists' use Royal We and try to act like they know what the market wants before we even know ourselves - whether or not the majority of consumers do care or will buy it or not. The only way we'll find out, since this is a First fucking time this has happened outside of N64 'Expansion packs' and N64 add-ons? We don't know what will happen. Anyone who pretends to know the success rate or rate of failure is full of themselves.
If i had to choose one, i would chose you... Pikachu, Pikachu use Thunderbolt ...
I want them both. I have the tech that will utilize both, for video and audio. I have no problem at all with the update. I game on pc as well as console, and it will be nice to have some of the ps4 exclusives look better and run better than they will on the ps4. I think it's also smart both companies seem to not want to alienate ps4 and xbox one owners by making those consoles completely irrelevant with the introduction of new tech. It is definitely to early for a new console generation, but I don't think it's to early for a tech refresh, which is what I see this as being.
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