Bethesda Will Consider Developing For The Nintendo NX If It's As Powerful As The Xbox One Or More

In a recent interview, Bethesda's Pete Hines shared more regarding the possibility of developing titles for the Nintendo NX

[Obscure_Observer]

Power Hungry devs. I don´t think this is good for the industry overall. Once Scorpio and Neo hit the market, what would they say about game development on the original ps4 and X1?

[MasterCornholio]

Developer will be forced to continue making games for the PS4.

What's playable on the PS4 NEO has to be playable on the PS4.

It's up to manufacturers to create those policies.

@Obscure

"And i don´t belive Sony will not do the same with the NEO either."

Depends on whether they change their policies or not. The slides that come from the NEO presentation said that every NEO game has to work on PS4 as well.

[Obscure_Observer]

Forced? Xbox exclusive games will only be present on all Xbox platforms if it´s First Party Exclusives (maybe second party as well)!

Phil Spencer has said that third party exclusive games on Scorpio is up to developers. So it´s just a matter of time before we start see exclusive Scorpio games popping up. And i don´t belive Sony will not do the same with the NEO either.

[Obscure_Observer]

@MasterCornholio

"Depends on whether they change their policies or not. The slides that come from the NEO presentation said that every NEO game has to work on PS4 as well."

Invert that order. Ps4 games will run on NEO but, NEO "labeled" games will not work on PS4 since it´s not foward compatible.

I may be wrong though. ;)

[SierraGuy]

If the policies did change it wouldn't be for years from now which everyone would probably be OK with. We can't stay on PS4 specs forever.

[Movefasta1993]

How the fuck is that power hungry?1.3tf?Seriously...

[ZeroX9876]

it's simple, they make a game for PC and takes into consideration every other platforms which can at least run the game on the lowest graphic settings. Then start the optimising work and the final product looks just fine on consoles.

But when you got such a large gap from the original platform the game was designed on, per example the original Wii VS X360/PS3/PC, too much hours are needed to get it to run smoothly.

The NX won't get PS4/X1/PC Cross platform games if it's too much under powered. I hope Nintendo ain't stupid enough to make the same mistake again by releasing a new console with such a large gap in performance compared to the competition.

[Angeljuice]

It's ridiculous to release seriously underpowered consoles and expect devs to struggle with them (especially when the user base is so poor).

If you make life easier for the devs, they will repay you with lots of titles. If you make it a slog to produce anything at all, they're going to go elsewhere.

[LastCenturyRob]

developers have always been "power hungry". Ever since the Atari 2600 days they would add chips in the cartridges to help with graphics and sound. It's always been that way, one way or another.

[_-EDMIX-_]

So you don't think a developer needing the resources to create the content that they're developing is a good thing?

Ummmm ok bud.

[Obscure_Observer]

Ok man, if you buy their BS, FINE! But don´t come here just downplaying anyones opnion. Learn to respect.

We had witnessed Rockstar manage to pull out a GTA 5 out two 512mb Ram consoles. Heck even Bethesda was able to pull out that card too with Skyrim.

And now a console with 8GB and Less than 1.3 Teraflops is not worth their time? I call that BS!

Did you see the PRO presentation? Show me one, just ONE GAME that screams DOUBLE features, graphics, physics, LOD, particles and POWER provided by the Playstation PRO over any current gen game?

I´ll reserve my judgement on Bethesda when we´ll be able to make a comparssion between the two versions of Dishonored 2. The PRO and the Standard ps4 version.

Bear in mind, i want to see the DOUBLE!

[_-EDMIX-_]

What are you actually even disagreeing with? A developer can allocate whatever they want to whatever features they feel like it in regards to their resources and developing a game you know not of what they're using the majority of that horsepower for to say they can or can't.

So yes Rockstar did create GTA 5 with half a gig of RAM that was absolutely amazing ..... so are you just assuming that Bethesda wants to make a game that is using the equivalent in regards to this generation? The issue I have is you're making these statements as if the company is seeking to settle as if you know 100% what they're actually developing down to the most technical scale, I'm sorry but you're not a developer you know not of what this company is making to state what they need or don't need to create their games, that's complete idiocy and you're disagrees are kind of showing your ignorance to the concept.

Just because someone was able to make a fantastic game last generation using a set Hardware spec doesn't actually mean this generation all developers should be fine FOR LIFE, I mean based on your slow logic you might as well say that we never need a new generation because of how much more processing power we have in comparison to last generation , but I'm sorry that's not actually how development Works , you're making this assumption based on developers never wanting to create more or never wanting to create more technically difficult games.

So what if I'm making a Grand Theft Auto in which you could walk into every single house feasible? That doesn't mean that all I need is more than half a gig of RAM because how do you know I'm making the game using the exact GTA V engine and using the exact set features in terms of models ?

Your assumption is that a developer is essentially going to make the exact same game and merely use the extra horsepower for just extra features I don't think you realize that they're using the extra horsepower for huge graphical enhancements huge physics-based enhancements adding a bunch of other complicated technical features I don't really think you fully understand how development Works to just assume more power is not needed that seems to be a very dumb childish immature assumption based on someone's lack of knowledge or even lack of basic history of Gaming.

I bet you think 70 MB was more than enough for gaming 20 years ago too right? I mean come on bro what could squaresoft possibly need 700MB for on 3 disc? I mean they made Final Fantasy 6 on 70mb so I'm calling BS that they need more technology../s

The issue I have is why on Earth are you comparing the last Generation to this generation on content that you're talking about is unknown to you? When on Earth did you start working for Bethesda and Rockstar?

So like the analogy I sarcastically used earlier it would be no different than your assumption that squaresoft does not need gigs space simply because the generation before they created Final Fantasy 6 using less, well buddy you're not talking about last generation and you're not talking about Final Fantasy 6 you're talking about the Next Generation and you're talking about Final Fantasy 7.

How can you tell a developer what they need for a game you don't know about? Lol

[MasterCornholio]

"Ps4 games will run on NEO but, NEO "labeled" games will not work on PS4 since it´s not foward compatible.

I may be wrong though. ;)"

Conference is over. And you are wrong about that. They clearly stated that the PS4 Pro still belongs to the generation of PS4 consoles. Every game that runs on Pro has to Run on the PS4 Base Model as well. Not to mention all disks compatible with NEO additional features have to work on the Base Model as well.

In short, you buy a PS4 game and it will work on the NEO at higher settings. The NEO is a more powerful PS4. Nothing more nothing less.

[Aenea]

Yeah of course they need at least X1 powerful console to develop for otherwise the next Fallout will run at 10fps with drops :)

[TheColbertinator]

Fallout on consoles already run like that XD

[Sm00thNinja]

But Fallout runs best on X1 lol you know Bethesda don't show Playstation gamers nof love ever

[King_Lothric]

That doesn't stop Playstation from being the market leader. Also, how many other games run best on PS4 than on x1? A lot more than viceversa.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Wow... the disagrees for you being 100% correct lol

[Sm00thNinja]

True why Bethesda doesn't acknowledge this beats me

[ninjazfistz]

I don't think it has to be as powerful as Xbox One if games run at a lower native resolution and maybe upscales to 720p/900p (nx screen resolution)

[quent]

Lazy attitude from Bethesda, how many 3rd party devs have also released games on handhelds or even mobile devices ?

EDIT

Also: FOX engine

[Nitrowolf2]

Their games have always been demanding on Console though even with the PS4 and Xbox One Fallout chugs like crazy.

I wouldn't call it lazy at all it sounds like they want to bring the game over but they don't want to give them a bad experience because who wants to play a Bethesda game on an inferior console when it's having issues with the superior one.

Know what's lazy about them is that they suck at optimization. Look at all the PS4 and PS3 releases of their games stronger Hardware yet inferior ports

[Segata]

Fallout 4 FPS is not power. It's lack of QA

[_-EDMIX-_]

How is that lazy? I'm sorry but they are very much correct to worry about Nintendo's next platform because they need to know that their game even has a market and that the platforms even powerful enough for them to fully convey their Concept in the first place.

If the platform is weaker it means that they have to allocate more time and more money to develop on it simply because they have to make a title specifically for the platform and I'm sorry but third-party developers most times do not do this they're not first party and they have no ode to a company to exclusively make or spend more time on their Hardware due to the company's incompetence.

[FlyingFoxy]

Last i heard it was using the Tegra X1 (Hopefully X2) and also another rumour that it was using a custom Nvidia chip called Parker or something at 1.5 TF. So yea, all it would be is speculation until it's revealed at this point tbh.

May as well wait rather than worry about it now, shouldn't be long until we know for sure.

[lazyboyblue]

Well surly Bethesda should know exactly how powerful the NX is by now? The ruddy things out in MARCH.

[superchiller]

Nintendo is too afraid to share any details about the NX with anyone. They're obviously not confident in the product at all.

[blawren4]

they are probably confident in their product, but are just being super careful they have a well received reveal and launch lineup. If they claim to have learned from their past mistakes, they certainly don't want to risk messing it up again. Here's to hoping that they can put out something that 3rd parties will develop for and can sell more consumers on their system.

[EddieNX]

No, they're just keeping it a secret to prevent any potential copying from competitors. Miyamoto said that himself.

[Kalebninja]

theyre clearly only sharing info and Kits with Devs they trust until reveal, they have no history with Bethesda.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@eddie- seriously might be one of the dumbest things I've read in a very very long time so what are they going to do they're just never going to release it? The reality is any company could copy anything and the stupidity to believe that not announcing it is suddenly going to help them doesn't even make any sense what's stopping Sony or Microsoft and doing the exact same thing the Next Generation anyway?

I mean using such slow logic wouldn't it make sense for them to just never release it so that way no one ever copies it? I'm just saying in order to show people how dumb a comment is you often have to exaggerate it to let them understand how much it doesn't really make any sense , are you telling me the best thing for them to do is to never Market it

......ever? Lol

[EddieNX]

He kind of hints that he's seen it and that Dishonoured 2 might be coming to it.
I think all big devs have seen the NX just not allowed to say anything.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Well certainly Nintendo of America allowed Sonic 2017 and Just Dance 2017 since they retweeted the announcement on Twittter. Also Dragon Quest XI. I think they will allow companies that closer too than others such as Sega and Square Enix or Namco and Capcom.

[MilkMan]

Thats nice.

[blawren4]

This is good news. Though I would have bought even a downgraded version of Fallout 4 on my Wii U. Gamepad was tailor made for the pip boy.

[FreddyFazbear]

I Highly doubt NX will be as powerful as PS4 and Xbox one even if not going by the rumors. I feel nintendo doesnt want to compete specswise because its more expensive to make. Why make a powerful console if they can make last gen graphics with 1st party games and innovative/peripheral controls that fans will still buy? Honestly i want the old nintendo the days of N64 and Gamecube. Please dont tell me its not about specs its getting old, times change and we should all move forward. Why bother buying a new device if its not upgraded?, PC smartphone, cars, laptops tablets etc.

[Kalebninja]

If the console was as powerful as PS4 or Xbone that wouldn't mean N's trying to compete, by the time NX comes out those consoles will be over 3 years old. they arent even considered powerful anymore which is why they can sell an Xbone for $250.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

You would be right if third parties were planning to abandon the PS4 and XB1 once Neo and Scorpio release.
But they aren't.
So you're not.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@wonder,- nothing in your comment actually makes any sense I think you need to rewash that conference in Reed what the pro actually is it's not a new platform it's simply a PlayStation 4 that's more powerful

Scorpio and pro are nothing more than upgrades they are not new platforms they are basically new versions of the same platforms they will run all games that Xbox one and PlayStation 4 run so this idea of abandon doesn't actually make any sense.

Did a flock of developers abandon the 3DS simply because Nintendo released the 3DS plus? That doesn't mean that the previous is more powerful it actually merely means that most developers are not dumb enough to abandon a huge install base.

But that also doesn't mean that PlayStation 4 or Xbox One are huge powerhouses on a technical skill they're clearly not that powerful if you consider like many have stated those platforms released three years ago technology doesn't just wait for anyone.

NX being more powerful than Xbox One would not be that much of a shock if you factor again it was several years ago that the platform even released was it that much of a shock that the Wii U was more powerful than the PlayStation 3?

[SegaSaturn669]

We all know bethesda is aching to release fallout: shelter on nx

[nevin1]

At this point, shouldn't they know how much powerful it would be?

[InTheZoneAC]

There's a lot more risk for developers to make games for Nintendo than it is to make the same game on PS4. Bethesda wants to release new games with new features, not a new game with downgraded features.

It's not the same logic as Neo to PS4 because PS4 is the base. These devs are not going to automatically say well we'll just make NX the base that's that for all future releases, seeing how 3rd support support sales have flopped tremendously with their home consoles.

[King_Lothric]

If the NX is a good system, it will succeed with or without the arrogants at Bethesda.

[danny818]

its more about developing for consoles at the same power level. Also thank you for confirming the power of the WiiNext or NX lol

[melonfarm3r]

Nobody buys a Nintendo console to play Bethesda games. This isn't really a big story.

[Sevir]

Nintendo has been marching to the beat of their own drum, they've been forcing developers to create under the barriers of a weaker machine for a few generations now in an effort to push gaming in blue oceans, Wii, Wii U and now the NX. The problem is that Developers want innovation and power as well. So the Wii lost its steam and the Wii U flopped and devs ignored it. traditional gaming will always be the market that nets you profit, So making a platform thats primarily focused on the traditional gamer with added innovations to it is the best way to go in my opinion, They are your base.

If Ninty wants Devs, offer them power, double down on the hardcore like Sony and MS has but then offer innovation as an option that expands and compliments the hardcore traditional gaming base but will appeal to different audiences outside the Hardcore. That has worked for Sony this gen, last gen and same for MS. as we can see the Wii was just a fad, a very successful one, but Ninty failed to catch lightning in a bottle with the Wii U.

Pete, more accurately Bethesda should know the specs of the NX already, Ninty should have sent them kits to toy around with already, so they should know if its as or more powerful than the XBO.

Either way, ninty should stop being so stubborn and court devs with a platform, developers want to make games on with the specs they need to do innovative stuff on.

[jaymacx]

Developers may want innovation but publishers want rehash and sell whats a safe bet.!this gen has been remaster and rehash fest. Ppl mainly don't put games on Nintendo platforms because they don't see huge returns on their investment but selling games is about knowing what games nintendo owners want. Nintendo really does have an image problem (kiddy)

[_-EDMIX-_]

Remasters? Did you know that we've only had about 30 remasters that are released? Well did you also know we had well over 500 plus games that have already released if not more? The number I'm giving is rough too, to my understanding it might be higher than what I just stated.

Soooooo yea.

[zombiewombie]

Awesome, then Nintendo fans can endure the many bugs that MS, PC, and PS fans have endured already. Everyone will be equally upset!

[ShaunCameron]

LMAO. Indeed. And that's why I don't mind Nintendo's consoles being "underpowered." The Sony/Microsoft/PC crowd can have them.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

HAH! SEE THAT!?
I've been saying this for MONTHS NOW yet I kept getting downvoted for it!
I said a long time ago that since devs aren't abandoning the PS4 and XB1, the NX doesn't need to be more powerful than them to see third party support!
But nooooooo, power fanatics and spec sheet worshippers kept downvoting me, telling me I was wrong, and generally looking at me as if I had it all wrong!
Well here's your proof that I was right, straight from one of the biggest third parties out there!

[ZeekQuattro]

The NX is more than likely going to be more powerful than the Xbox One but when that happens Bethesda will find another reason to not support the NX I'm sure. Call it a hunch.

[FPS_D3TH]

So they aren't supporting it then.

[GrimReaperGamer]

Fingers crossed that the NX will be more powerful than the X1 and PS4.

[JunMei]

They said that last time too. I expect nothing.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Huh, so they don't know yet? I thought the big developers already knew.

[Segata]

Why would they care? Fallout 4 looks like it can run on PS3. Skyrim was ugly as shit when it launched. They don't make cutting edge games. Not counting ID and such.