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No Man's Sky Steam page updated with unique refund notice

In response to a flurry of refund activity on No Man's Sky this weekend, Steam has updated the game's page with a "no special exemptions" notice.

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thorstein2798d ago

No Man's Sky Refund Article 431.2 (.2 to show that it is updated with new refund information.)

No Man's Hype: 12/10
No Man's Hate: 22/10

Number_92798d ago

People don't like being screwed. Who would have thunk it?

PizzaSteve2798d ago

Millions get screwed by COD every year and still buy it.

sullynathan2798d ago

No one gets screwed by cod every year. You buy what you wanted and Activision showed cod fans what they wanted. It seems you people can't get that through your skull.

AgentSmithPS42798d ago

They're lining up already to be BF'd by dice/ea's BF1 ;), people forget the major issues BF3, BF4, etc have had for a long time after release until they finally patch it all up.

subtenko2798d ago

How did they get screwed other than the exceptional cases of the game crashing or not working (mostly PC players although reports say the patched fixed 99% of that)

Nitrowolf22798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

You guys are confusing recycled elements, main cod buyers know what they are buying, to a new IP that was stated to have features that it doeant.

Cod and bf present themselves for what they are at every reveal trailer.

Crashes aside, because that could happen with any game, how exactly is a yearlyrics cod buyer getting screwed for buying cod?

nX2798d ago

^I actually felt more screwed by CoD Advanced Warfare, Modern Warfare 3 or Ghosts than about No Man's Sky. Also Battlefront, Watch Dogs or Assasin's Creed Unity felt like less value for my money and those games were all made by 100-500 developers.

NMS is not a bad game per se, it's just missing some vital features that would make it enjoyable for longer than 10 hours. They could easily patch in some kind of quest system or faction wars that would turn the whole thing around.

MagicBeanz2797d ago

People have been screwed not only by devs but by whole companies like Microsoft repeatedly and there has been nothing like the smear campaign that we've seen leveled at this game and this developer, for some reason No Mans Sky has been placed under a microscope while others get a pass.

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Artemidorus2798d ago

No Man Lie can be added into the list.

Give it afew months and discount and will find out what's what.

Lon3wolf2798d ago

To counter all the BS being spread about refunds given after 30+ hrs of play time.

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MasterCornholio2798d ago

"Valve, perhaps in response to a high volume of refund requests, now appear to have reversed that leniency. Technical issues, missing features, and misleading advertising (the Steam page itself still features a trailer containing things not in the game) have all been cited by dissatisfied players as reasons for requesting their money back."

People should be really careful when buying this game. It's easy to pass 2 hours with it without noticing.

Brave_Losers_Unite2798d ago

Yeah I have easily passed 2 hours in games by falling asleep at the desk.

Hoffmann2798d ago

People should be careful with just every game at launch these days.

Artemidorus2798d ago

Yeah could start by being honest, it works really well for customers.

MasterCornholio2798d ago

What I mean is that in 2 hours you barely do anything in this game. So it's easy to lose track of time with it.

It's a good thing we have this article because there are many people who believe there's unlimited time for refunds with this title.

freshslicepizza2798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

@Hoffmann
"People should be careful with just every game at launch these days."

especailly games where they don't ship any reviewable copies before the release date and pleads to the public not to watch any early video showing up on youtube. this just goes to show how this game is quite high in refunds, which some people still are a bit in denial about.

Duoma2797d ago

I would say I'm surprised people still haven't learned since this gaming generation but im not. We're talking about some of the most fickle scatterbrained short attention short memory types.

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pcz2798d ago

i havent even played the game and i was 1000 percent sure i would never purchase the game in my entire life. you dont need to play it for one hour, or 50 if you have common sense.

it annoys me when people use the argument that you cant know something about a product or experience unless you have tried it yourself. whereas i know you will get hurt if you jump off a cliff with no parachute. some things are just obvious.

this game doesnt require you to play it to know it sucks. its obvious

Clown_Syndr0me2798d ago

I've said this for months and got so much hate and down votes. Now look, I was right.

deafdani2798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

Except it doesn't suck. It's no masterpiece, either, and I can definitely see why there was such a shitstorm because of the lies - the developers had it coming - but the game itself is good, if you like exploring and grinding.

I like exploring and grinding, and because of that, I've had a lot of fun with the game so far. It helps that I never paid attention to the hype, as well.

Your statement is still somewhat accurate, if you change the last sentence to something like:

"This game doesn't require you to play it to know if it's for you or not".

Because, seriously, you only need to read a few reviews, ranging from good to bad, and watch some let's plays - it's pretty easy on the PS4, using Live from Playstation - to find out whether this game will be your cup of tea or not. As it is, it's obviously a highly divisive product. People either seem to love it or hate it, with very little wiggle room for a middle point here. I'm in the love camp.

rainslacker2798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

I think one can potentially make a good judgement on if they'll like a game based on what they see before buying. Prudence is never a bad thing when spending money on something, either a game or anything else we spend money on.

At the same time though, one can't really go on to say, "that game sucks" with any real 1st hand knowledge to be able to express why it sucks without actually playing it....and nowadays, that tends to be the more common motif in all these forums about the quality of a particular game.

And the more recent advent of where people are told what they should hate about a game before it's even released, or soon after it's released, becoming the thing that people latch onto to say why the game sucks, even though copious numbers of other people will say that it doesn't. I mean, NMS certainly has things beyond the lack of a MP feature which it can be critiqued on which could be much more meaningful for the end player than all the general comments of "it sucks", but you wouldn't actually be able to express in detail what you feel sucks about it, or make it relate for the end user as a whole.

I dunno, it's as if people can't accept that people have different tastes or something.

To me, NMS doesn't suck. It has it's flaws, but generally, I'm enjoying it. Won't consider it the best game I ever played, and can cite some criticisms I have for it, but I formed those critiques based on actual 1st hand experience. At best, you can only say it sucks based on spurious analytical analysis with absolutely no 1st hand experience to say how all those things which turned you off actually turn out in the overall game play experience.....thus....making your opinion of the game completely invalid beyond your own preference of if it's something that appeals to you.

Funny how that works huh?

LordMaim2798d ago

No it doesnt. No it isn't.
@Clown_Syndr0me: No you weren't.

Everything is subjective.

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nowitzki20042798d ago

I actually still liked it after 2 hours or at least was willing to give it a try. Way too repetitive for my liking.

Valkron12797d ago

My question to Steam is why are they still showing the trailer that is no way like the real game

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1nsomniac2798d ago

I guarantee there will be a class action lawsuit against Hello Games for this. I've seen far more for far less.

The fact they are still using the fake trailers to sell the game is extremely worrying though as it shows a genuine acceptance of it. Which is very dangerous to all of us no matter how you feel about the game.

zivtheawesome2798d ago

and ubisoft's downgrades are okay right because they are a big company huh?

Tobsesan2798d ago

Well, they dont look as promised. But this game has almost nothing they promised.

zivtheawesome2798d ago

I disagree the game has almost all feature that were said to be. multiplayer does not fit for this type of game. the only missing feature i am dissapointed about really is the factions war and it is also pretty useless. i knew that this is what to expect from this game so i was satifsied

1nsomniac2798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

@zivtheawesome I was against Ubisoft & their downgrades too & was very vocal about them, still am to this day. I always will be the same way that I'm very vocal about Gearbox & have stuck by never buying their products again. I will do the same with Hello Games & anything by Shahid Kamal Ahmad also.

The level of misinformation spread by Sean Murray in order to falsely sell his product to unwitting consumers is at Randy Pitchford levels & that's unacceptable. He should be held accountable for it just like all the others.

The fact you're so openly disagreeing despite all the factual evidence just shows your blind ignorance i'm afraid.

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its_JEFF2798d ago

Sadly there probably will be a class action lawsuit. This small studio will probably be shut down and put out of business and they will be out of work. The witch hunt is real, people won't stop. I don't believe for 1 second that Sean Murray and his team set out to lie and mislead consumers. More likely the reality is they set out to create their original vision but slowly realized that they neither had the means or the man power to accomplish all that they set out to do, but by then the hype was out of control and they couldn't take a set backwards.

I image that this could lead to major publishers pulling back on taking risk on studios and games, that aren't proven... it'll certainly lead to dev's being a lot more careful about what they say or promise to deliver.

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Dirtnapstor2798d ago (Edited 2798d ago )

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the game had to be sliced and diced to make the delayed released date. It's not horrendous by any means. Great concept that got stunted. Like many, I'm stuck with a disc. If this had been a $20 price point, attitudes would be different. I can only hope Hello is frantically working to patch and put back everything that made this game look so appealing prior to its release.

Pintheshadows2798d ago

I really think it should have been £29.99.

It is currently £46.99 in my local GAME. That is ridiculous.

ocelot072798d ago

@Pintheshadows even though this should be £30 or less title. GAME are known to overcharge for new and used games. For example take FIFA a yearly released title. Game seem to think it's ok to charge £50 for FIFA 17 when the likes of Tesco, Grainger games sell it for £40.

I remember about 5 years ago. Around when FIFA 12 was about to release. Supermarkets like Tesco and Asda was selling FIFA 12 for £35 new. GAME was selling it for £50 and one of the higher ups at GAME complained to the media that supermarkets should not be able to sell them that cheap as it will put them out of business. In fact GAME did almost go out of business.

SoulMikeY2798d ago

While I agree the game didn't quite deliver, you sound ridiculous.

Learn how the law works before you speak. And maybe re-watch the trailer. In the eyes of the the law, if you can stretch something to be true, it's true.

"Is there multiplayer?" Absolutely, multiple players share the same universe.

"Can you run into other players?" Of course, you can't see them, but you can be in the same place, same time. And on their planet with them.

Law-gic.

Servbot412797d ago

I don't know what world you live in where "run into another person" can also mean "occupy the same space but not be able to see or meet a person," but it's not the real world.

SoulMikeY2797d ago (Edited 2797d ago )

Servbot41, I don't believe that, I'm saying that's how lawyers will deflect you. You clearly have never done a serious jury duty...

Don't be a douche, read before commenting please. You people just want to attack something.

Also, it IS a video game, not the real world. lol. Smh, some people's kids...

Hoffmann2798d ago

Haha, all these people that buy a game at launch and later complain.

Be like Hoffmann, be smart, don't buy games at launch anymore

MasterCornholio2798d ago

Or at least wait until the reviews are out. Some games are worth buying at launch. However many times games are not worth their launch price.

Hoffmann2798d ago

Some games are worth to buy at launch indeed, but they seem to become a rare occassion now between all these buggy experiences,..or in the case of NMS, a lesser experience than expected

thorstein2798d ago

I have bought about a dozen games based solely on the hate they received. Some are among the best games I played this generation.

And the reviewers/ journos were all notorious for doing exactly what they are doing with NMS.

I am loving NMS by the way, I even have the platinum.

rainslacker2798d ago

Reviews even aren't always a good indicator on if a game is worth it.

One thing you can count on though is that the internet won't let a bad game go unpunished....unless it's on one's preferred console....so the problem is discerning the BS concern reviews against those who have actually played it, and in some cases, with exclusives, finding the middle ground which is likely where the truth resides.

Seems like a lot of work to actually know if a game is good or not.....which is why I tend to just by the games that look like I'd enjoy them. Often day one, sometimes later. It's rare I'm actually disappointed in a game I buy day one, because those tend to be the games I would actually like, and I do keep up with them more so know what more to expect from them.

Even things like QB, which ended up disappointing for me, wasn't on a level of disappointment that made me regret buying it day one. Just something I realized I could have waited to play, but no real harm done other than maybe spending a bit more. Will support the game though, because it's good enough.

Psychotica2798d ago

Or learn you have two hours to play and get a refund in that time

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Duke192798d ago

lol @ all the downvotes. I completely agree with you. Its the risk of being an early adopter...

Im not saying what the developer did was right (misleading information - but damn a bunch of these people should wait for reviews/the game to be complete BEFORE buying it)

MatrixxGT2798d ago

It's not like it was 15 years ago where you walked into a store a stared at awesome box art thinking this game is going to be awesome only to buy it, put it in your system and realize it's a puzzle game.

Those were the days of getting burned, today though with YouTube, twitch, thousands of news site fetching for any straw of information about a new game you should be able to tell if a game is going to be for you or not. At least have an idea if your going to hold off or preorder.

NMS screamed "wait and see" for me since it was announced.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein14h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii10h ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo10h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows909h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel19891h ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

qalpha10h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno10h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan10h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno9h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life198110h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn6691h ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger882d ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19811d 13h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein1d 12h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 14h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 9h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 3h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199222h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 16h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 3h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 10h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 9h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier22h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan13h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 19h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 18h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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