Sony is said to announce the PS Vita Trinity on September 7, but is it a good idea?
that would be fckin awesome ASLONG as Sony actually supports it better -.- , I REALLY hope they do
I wonder if there's also a Vita NEO as well with titles that work on the OG vita as well. Hmn...
if they bring it along with Monster Hunter 5 and all the previous entries HD remastered will be one hell of an idea ...if they support it again with lame half assed Uncharteds and Killzones ..no thanks
There's one thing Sony could do that would make me instantly buy a new handheld from them: make it play all the same games as the PS4. The ability to continue playing my games when I am out of the house would be incredible. Remote play is a cool idea, but it doesn't work very well for me in practice. You need a strong connection on both ends and that's not usually feasible. I want to be able to play when I'm at the park, on the freeway (as a passenger, of course) or somewhere else without a good connection. This might seem like an impossible thing to ask, but I don't see any reason it wouldn't be possible. Mobile hardware is getting powerful enough that Sony conceivably could build a handheld with enough power to run simplified versions of PS4 games. First of all, the handheld screen-size would be only a few inches across so you could get away with running the games at a much lower resolution than on the PS4, which would save a huge amount of performance right off the bat. Anti-aliasing would also be less necessary at that PPI. Beyond those things, developers could also remove or pare back some of the more demanding effects. I honestly don't care if the games look quite a bit worse than they do on the PS4, I just want to be able to continue playing my games away from the house. Basically what I'm envisioning is Sony having a three tiered ecosystem: a handheld, a regular PS4, and PS4 Neo. All three devices would play the exact same games, but at varying levels of graphical fidelity. The standard PS4 would provide the baseline and from there games would be pared back for the handheld and upgraded for Neo. If Sony is already asking developers to create two different graphical modes for Playstation games going forward I don't see any reason they can't require them to build in three different graphical modes. I currently own a PS4, but I do more of my gaming on PC. I'll be honest though, if Sony do what I'm describing here I will buy the Neo and the new handheld and will probably do all of my gaming there. Sony would create an even stronger reason for gamers to become deeply invested in their ecosystem.
I'm somewhat discontented with the concept of a mid-gen upgrade for consoles, but I'd be downright pissed if Sony decided to release a new portable, when their current Vita is more than adequate, and Sony can't even be bothered to Support it with software outside of games. There are plenty of things Sony could do to simply revitalize the Vita, instead of trying to reboot with a new hardware iteration, and the Vita potential has gone woefully under utilized. I love the Vita, and play it a lot because it gets a lot of games that I enjoy playing, just not from Sony itself....and on the Sony support end it's the most disappointing console they've ever released. Even if this "trinity" uses the principal of forward compatibility, I"d have to ask, what's the point, since Sony itself can't support the Vita sufficiently enough to make forward compatibility worthwhile.
Sony needs to learn to go with regular micro sd cards this time around...
if they do, they might know something about Nintendo's NX that we don't, and they're trying to counter it. I am all for a new PSvita that supports all the games I bought, including my ps1 library and all the downloaded games. Stronger remote play with more buttons is welcome.
I'm not sure this has to do with Nintendo releasing a new handheld if you consider it's still the Vita so is this just a revision like they normally do or is this a new handheld? Sony has been known to do several revisions of their platforms so for all we know this is merely just that. From what we're hearing about Nintendo's next handheld it sounds like the biggest feature is playing it on the TV, where the PSP Model 3000 technically has a feature that does just that so I'm not sure it would be something brand-new to Sony considering such a feature was inevitable with the Vita considering the PSP had a revision that allowed the very same thing.
Honestly I'm in two minds. I doubt it because of their abysmal support of the current system, but at the same time I hope so as I love my Vita and the third party support it's gotten over the years has been fantastic and more than made up for Sonys lack of interest. As an aside, if they are releasing a Vita successor/new model Vita they should put the OLED back in. Vita games on an OLED screen just look gorgeous as hell compared to LCD.
I would say the biggest feature I would want out of a revision would be the ability to play it on a TV sort of like the PSP 3000 model. Also if they go with micro SD cards as the biggest reason I did not purchase the PlayStation Vita was because the ridiculous cost. I ended up just getting a PS TV on sale.
That was the plan for the OG Vita. That port on the top right next to the game card slot was intended to be used to let you plug it into your TV, as well as for other accessories that, in the end never got to see the light of day.
If it is, I doubt very much it would be a Handheld some gamers are thinking it would be..if I was a betting man..it most likely would be a smartphone with no physical buttons , with maybe a 6" screen, with a dual shock game pad support..running a AndroidOS that may be forked! Like Amazon does with its fire devices. The Amazon fire player, fire stick & Fire Tablet are infact Android OS based..that's exactly why Google playstore, and services can be side loaded. So AndroidOS fork of the PSVita OS..able to have PSVita games ported to this smartphone with all control UI support for games & Apps is able to use a standard Dual shock 3 or 4.. So PSVita OS with Android Fork..all on the same handheld ..produced from the xperia line of Smartphones & Tablets. As for a dedicated New PSVita..I would not bet on it as to try to build up a renewal in the North American markets as well in Europe & UK..the only real market for the PSVita as it stands now is Asia & Japanese market. Just being realistic, and this is from a owner of both PlayStation TV and PSVita , and I use both everyday.. Just being real about it in my opinion. If there was such in the works.
So, a Sony Xperia with support for Vita games? Didn't they try something like that for the PSP?
@Aenea17m ago [So, a Sony Xperia with support for Vita games? Didn't they try something like that for the PSP?] Sort of, see the xperia play was Sony Ericsson, side of the business, Sony Ericsson licences the device to at the time to support Sony Mobile tools and software. Well Sony purchased all of Sony Ericsson stock, so Now it's completely Sony's. Now if you take the recent Moves and investments into account. Sony downsized the Ericsson buy out man power, cut it's number of units it produces , and the number of models. Moved it buy out HQ, to silicon valley.. Like So: Sony Mobile U.S. Quietly Replaced Chief, Cut Jobs and Moved to Silicon Valley http://www.recode.net/2016/... The same space as...drum roll..that's right, the new PlayStation Subsidiary HQ is at..Silicon Valley. "Sony moves PlayStation business to Silicon Valley -January 26, 2016 http://m.phys.org/news/2016... And Sony created yet another among its other subsidiaries..yet another Company..Apr 1st of this year.. And now Forwardworks "Sony Announces ForwardWorks Mobile Gaming Division To Push PlayStation Games To Smartphones By Horia Ungureanu | Mar 25, 2016 06:08 AM EDT" http://www.techtimes.com/ar... Think about the steps...and now all xperia phones are sold , unlocked like Google Does with its own line of Smartphones. Since forwardworks is set up as it's own Subsidiary, making PlayStation games for mobile.. What better way than to have a true PlayStation smartphone to develop for, since Sony already makes smartphone's what better way to distinguish the xperia brand further..and with no need for a phone with custom controls made , and just use a standard Dual shock it's just another smartphone with a touch screen. It serves both Markets it would be the software & services that would set it apart. PlayStation Vue already is now on AndroidOS, Sony now manufacturer a OTA HD TV tuner for Smartphones . now think about this a Local OTA ..TV, built in with , Playstation Vue : Cable cord streaming TV & DVR service ..PlayStation games with all using DUal shock 4 or 3 controller support..and mini HDMI out..SD card storage, remote play with the PS4, and PlayStation Now.. With PSVita OS including a Fork of Android OS..Google play.. Would you really need a dedicated game handheld at that point? / grin.
Yeah sorry, TL;DR...
Seems some guy jokingly calls that 'Trinity' and apparently everyone including gaming sites believes it's actually part of the leak, isn't it?
Something is in the works to combat *cough cough NX
I could care less, I won't be supporting sony with a new handheld, learned my lesson with the vita. I bought it day 1 and used it on the first 9 months after that its been an expensive paper weight -.-' It doesn't have use for me because its filled with 8bit indie games, mobile crappy ports or JRPG's/RPG's which its not my style of games. Wish vita had more games like golden abyss *sigh*
Vitalogy2m ago(Edited 2m ago) [Wish vita had more games like golden abyss *sigh] And while you are fully right to want that, the larger market as a whole chose to instead in the West, if I am going to get a game like that, I do not want to play it in a handheld where the game is watered down PS3 port! Many Lambasted Sony on that very point over and over again, many just stated in the West, Sony just port that PSVita game on to the PS4, so I do not have to pay for a PSVita with its proprietary memory cards... So again Sony just ended up along with their 1st party , just ported all the main exclusives that were unique and let the Asia & Japanese developers have a handheld system that they could make games for. That's why if my guess about the next handheld is true , that is if there is one that is..it would be infact a AndroidOS PSVita OS fork..with Dual shock support. No more worries about putting out a dedicated handheld with , handheld controller design limitations.. Since that all games would use the standard Dual shock as it's control UI controller instead. Also is if Nintendo NX is indeed a hybrid of Handheld Tablet and use the Nvidia X1 or X2 chipset..Sony could in effect make use of the same chipset..and now port from NX & Sony's new Smartphone for developers would be a no brainer..Nintendo and Sony would essentially unify a handheld market platform set for gaming that Smartphones that would be the odd man out with no drive to include physical controls like both Nintendo and Sony would.. I mean Smartphone's could still get those games also because many times they use Bluetooth standard game pads anyway. But it would nudge developers to make all their games in Mobile to include those control setups and not just touch screen only.
No more $100 memcards, mini hdmi out, and better first party support. In general a better catalog of games. As much as i like all the japanese games, rpgs, vns, and ecchi titles, i do want a more of console quality western experience with decent shooters, racing games, and rts. Killzone mercenary is by far the best handheld shooter imo, which is sad there isnt much else than that. Also maybe not a half assed port of a CoD game would help. Oh, and more games like gravity rush please. Port gravity rush 2 and persona 5 to the damn thing and i will buy day 1 haha
Look at my above post..the real problem is Mobile handheld controls setups has always limited the appeal to Mobile gaming. Before with their mobile controller schemes.. .with smartphone's now being able to use standard Bluetooth controls , standard game pads. That's pretty much no longer an issue anymore. Taking an existing Smartphones ability to use such , now eliminates the only real last problem for Handhelds getting proper control UI. Sony I think knows this..so Why build a dedicated handheld game system now, instead just make a standard smartphone or tablet with standard game pad support , be on top added to instead of just touch screen only support. NX is Rumor to be a Tablet with detachable physical controls..Sony making a Smartphone with standard game pad dual shock support already would serve the same purpose.. Both Nintendo & Sony no doubt see this. Both in Mobile would be using pretty much the same chipset or easy to port to. Tegra and snapdragon chipset even now get pretty much all of the same exact games .
If this is true sony is wasting their time becuase us vita owners were never in sony best interest. Another thing i wouldnt fall for the bait again got me once but will never get me a second time you know what i could have done with the money i have wasted on a product that had no support i will tell any vita owners dont fall for sony tricks again they already have one foot in the grave already it wouldnt make me happy if the other foot fell in but i wouldnt feel sorry for them
The dedicated game handheld system, pretty much outside of Nintendo's is pretty much a no outboards running boat.. While , a smartphone today designed with a physical Game pad support like a Dual shock or Xbox game pad, or a Moga pro , pretty much made mobile handheld physical controls a non starter.. If you want a Living Room game console experience on a mobile, you really need a Living Room game console game pad to go along with it. The Vita controls came with limitations as mobile physical control schemes has always had in one shape or the other. It does not help , when the majority of Consumers see those efforts as just watered down ports with substandard controls with a sub game pad UI. Sony set up the Subsidiary forwardworks now , because they see gamers such as yourself unhappy with the way things turned out from the PSP to the PSPGo to the xperia play to now the PSVita I doubt like you Sony has the taste for making yet another game handheld game system in the West for yet another money sink with fans that are dissolution with what ever Sony would bring out in a handheld form anyway. At least with a smartphone , they can keep a presence in the mobile handheld space and with game pads being able to hook up though Bluetooth anyway..it would be more conducive to support iOS & Android OS as with a Fork of the PSVita OS than to yet throw away more good money after bad. @ONESHOTV2 "ND can do it sony could have done it as well, i know you guys love your favorite company but they are not paying you so dont be a drone." 1st off that was not ND making Golden Abyss... And 2nd it's not the fact they could not know how..it's you need the manpower, and the developers would have to be willing to do it..forcing the developer to do something, they may not be real happy doing so may loose you Developers.. Not Keep them
so you are saying if Nintendo can do it sony couldn't what type of logic is that they both make games they know what their consumers want sony just got lazy with the advertising and came up with the "word of mouth" bull one thing that sets Nintendo apart from sony is that they actually try even if their product is a fail they keep trying to get people to buy it look at the wii u first party games are still being made for it now compare the vita sony is taking games away now tell me who is giving the most support to their products. and oh the smartphone argument has come up again dude if Nintendo can do it sony could have done it as well, i know you guys love your favorite company but they are not paying you so dont be a drone.
Who cares? Sony is too stupid to properly manage their hardware. Its either we get great support with bad graphics (Nintendo 3DS) or Better graphics and no games (Sony Vita). I just want PSP 1000 - 3000 level support with Vita quality is that too much to ask?
I hope not. I loved the PS Vita and even the PSTV. But I didn't like the way Sony pretty much stopped supporting it.
@ocelot0720m ago [I hope not. I loved the PS Vita and even the PSTV. But I didn't like the way Sony pretty much stopped supporting it.] I can see where you are coming from, but on the same token, there is just not enough 3rd party in the West in studio's even Sony's very own 1st party willing to code for the device! In Asia & Japan it's did have such development invested into making games for the system. The problem is manageable, but if the people in Question have not drive or experience to do such , you can only work with what you have..example John Carmak stated that when talking about the iPAD and what it could do, he gave his over all impressions on what in theory it could do , but he just did not have enough experience 1st hand with the device to make use of its hardware without more knowledge & experience. X86 and arm chips are common, but carmack has not had the time or experience with ARM as he has had with X86. That's the best of the situation..most of your mobile Developers could make games for the PSVita that make games and Apps on iOS and AndroidOS. The problem is who or how many does Sony have in its own studio's..for example from PSP the hardware to the PSPGo used MIPS chips..the PSVita on the other hand use Arm Cortex A9 with a SGX543MP4+ GPU system on a chip. Same chipset in basic terms is in the iPad III, AndroidOS & iOS developers are again where your pool is where they use Unity Game engne outside of just sony's mobile smartchipset teams, but again courting those Developers to make games for the PSVita would be needed . At this point outside of Asia and Japan it's like pulling teeth..the teams size and investment to make a AAA game for the PSVita is about as much or can be as a PS3 living room console game cost and time to triangle. I doubt there is enough 1st party developers even @/Sony PlayStation wanting to spend the time building games for the PSVita instead it seems that they would just rather instead of that level for the PSVita that instead of going through all of that trouble, they would just be better off working on a PS4 game. And Remote Play to the PSVita instead of making a separate game or Port. That's one of the reasons forwardworks no doubt exist. Now as a subsidiary of its own. For PlayStation 1st party mobile games for Smartphones and smart devices .
PSVITA needs only Monster Hunter on it to be susscessful in Japan. I really don't get how Sony doesn't see it, and it's still not too late
as much as i would LOVE a new vita didn't playstation only just save them from a loss last quarter? i can't see sony ready to throw a bunch of money at another potential vita after what happened its a real shame i lined up a brought a vita release day for £230 i was so excited and i loved it i still love it but its just a back up for when i go on holiday now rather than a gaming system i would use at home. sucks all those fan boys were saying how great it was and that they had one when the sales clearly say otherwise the vita launched in an awkward spot and cost alot when our phones had become pretty much as powerful and got new games every day but once again brilliant device
Ofcoarse they do! NX executing what the PSvita was supposed to be a console on the go. Nintendo will open the market for that and Sony knows it. Sony likes to go head to head with Nintendo. Move, PS all stars battle royal to name a few. Any who. I'm excited. I see them making some upgrades to the currents psvita to make it more compatible with NEO. Maybe making it a controller. Who knows. But if something in the works?! Yes. They are a company and in their R&D something is always in the works.
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