PS4 Neo would 'fundamentally change' No Man's Sky, says creator Sean Murray

SONY'S powerful new PlayStation Neo console could have a big impact on No Man's Sky and future titles, according to the game's creator Sean Murray.

[Corpser]

60 fps

[SinkingSage]

I was playing 60fps games back in 1999.

[yeahokwhatever]

with about 10,000 polygons on the screen. We've got millions now, and deeper AI, filters, shaders, etc. whats your point exactly?

[Muzikguy]

So take the games of today and try playing them on a PS1 or N64. Bet you won't even hit a single frame per second. We've come a long way since then

[InTheZoneAC]

and I can play snes emulator at 60FPS!!!!!!

[SinkingSage]

Kek @ all the butthurt to this comment, so we can have more polygons, more shaders, etc, but we went from 60fps games to 30fps games, and that's somehow okay?

[yeahokwhatever]

PSVR mode...

[daynnight365]

Now you're talking

[_LarZen_]

I was hoping we would get to play NMS with the PSVR. That is not on the table now that the game is running at 30 and lower framerates. The NEO could help with that...if not I hope they add VR support on PC.

[Lamboomington]

and a number of massive graphical improvements including approximately 5x draw distance (that last one the game seems to sorely need)
Seriously though, better graphics would benefit this game so much because exploration and scale are such an important part of it. Still, I get that it's incredibly difficult to have the best of both worlds.

[Mulando]

Neo should not be able to reach 60 fps, where the PS4 reached 30. Only if it normally would reach ~50fps but the framerate was than capped to 30. The CPU shouldn't be that much better. Still the old design, but with a bit more frequency.

[Deeke]

If leaked specs are right, PS4 Neo will absolutely hit native 1080p 60FPS in all games with Neo Mode. But it'll be at a devs discretion how Neo Mode is implemented.

I think 1080p 60FPS will be a standard, but upscaled 4K with dynamic res won't be available for all games. It just depends on the game, and the developer.

[slappy508]

Looking forward to both

[Majister-Ludi]

Yea 30 to 60 would make the game seem a lot smoother.

[destroyerz1]

Yes, but there are other important things concerned, FOV is one of them.

[Kokyu]

@shin-Zantetsuken Its not a FPS, its just a First person perspective.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

If NEO would produce a fundamental change than what would Scorpio or PC do?

[jukins]

That's not the point. I think what he's saying is the game has been somewhat limited since it had to be on console as well as pc and with the additional muscle of neo they might be able to do things that weren't previously possible

[s45gr32]

It can already be done on the PC. No need to handicap the game because is on outdated PS4. The PC already offers 4K resolution, VR, NVIDIA gameworks, fully realistic physics.

[Kokyu]

@S45gr32 1st the precentage of people playing 4k isnt that high guy, Second PS4 was the lead platform the game was designed for not PC.

[Bytor]

nothing

[ShadowKnight]

PC makes everything fun but I can't speak on Scorpio since it want never get No Man Sky

[s45gr32]

Sean Murray does not need to wait for the Neo, the PC is already capable of what he envisions from the PS4 Neo. Is going to suck that the PC version is a straight out port. I really hope the PC version of this game offers mod support, keyboard and mouse user interface, Nvidia gameworks, AMD tres fx. A version that takes full advantage of what the PC offers.

[ONESHOTV2]

s45gr32--- i would hope so as well got to have things that set us apart we pay for the hardware to push the game to it's max so why not give us the features that will match our hardware

[Kokyu]

Because you're a minority not the majority of average players.

[iceman06]

I've heard that they are open to mod support, but offline only. Also, there will be improvements to other things such as the option the alter the FOV, the framerate, and rendering times when first landing and traversing the planet. (the procedural generation is pushing the CPU during that time and there's some frame stutter on the PS4 version that might not be as pronounced with more powerful rigs)

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed I was just going to say wouldn't the PC version sort of show what he's talking about in regards to improvements?

[freshslicepizza]

unless there is a parity clause.

[Kokyu]

And so would everyone else that has a high end over priced gaming rig but thats not waht usually happens.

[ONESHOTV2]

Kokyu---"Because you're a minority not the majority of average players." where do you get your stats from steam ? lol you know not everyone on steam let steam check their system right i have closed it out many times when they ask if i wanted to do the survey so no steam does have data but it doesnt collect data for every pc gamer. another thing from what i'm seeing from this game even my old gaming laptop with a 560ti equivalent GPU can run this game is not pushing anything

[ILostMyMind]

I do not think having more resolution and FPS is a "fundamental change".

[Goldby]

It isnt juat resolution or frame rate. The power can be put to alot more things than just that, imagine less pop ins for example

[Lionsguard]

Wait, so if NEO can massively improve NMS, shouldn't a PC be able to handle this theoretical suped up version of NMS already? Sounds like PC was held back..once again.

[cyclindk]

It's all up to those devs to manage those features... optimization per platform. I'd like to know how much this game actually cost. I'm not thinking too large a figure.

[Bytor]

Maybe the NEO is more than a beast maybe it's a Super Beast maybe it eats high end PC's and shits out Scorpios.

[Lionsguard]

Rumor has it that it has over 9000 Exaflops!

[NohansenBoy]

I heard they put a dinner tray inside NEO so you don't need to worry about pulling up a table while your eating and gaming.

[s45gr32]

I am hoping that is not the case, but it may be true.😢

[cyclindk]

I would love to play this on Neo, or the very least its sequel. I think had Sony been gone all in to help out these devs it would have see a good visual/graphics improvement as far as tech goes. The pop-in and such. Otherwise I love the base game, a sequel could expand so much on all the potential here.

[n1kki6]

Technically speaking that kind of power is already available on PC if they really want to build something with a larger scope.

Also, I get the PC v. Console stuff blah blah blah, don't get your underwear in a bunch, just pointing out that their is hardware already available much more powerful than neo or scorpio.

[melonfarm3r]

It's going to be amazing on Nintendo GO...

[_LarZen_]

So based on what Sean Murray is saying the PC version could be insanely much better. The thing is it probably wont be...

[jjb1981]

I bought the PC version in hopes of sharper images. It already looks great on ps4 but the PC boost will be awesome.

[melonfarm3r]

THIS. SUCKS.

http://kotaku.com/two-no-ma...

[5p4c3d]

wtf!? sean murray himself said the only way youd see another player is by running in to them :( not doubting the article but thats quite a let down.

OT: PC will increase draw distance and could possible allow for more AI and ground clutter on screen at once, but i highly doubt they will have a way to increase the graphics outside of resolution since the game is based off an algorithm that creates those "textures" on the spot and thats one of the reasons its a 7 gigabyte game.

[dizeestl]

why would anyone believe a word coming out of this liars mouth?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

go home sean and never make a game again you misleading liar.

[joab777]

If this is true and it is for sure, as he talked about adding base building and freighters etc., it stands to reason that PC could already be this different game.

They are not in the same servers I imagine. I'm sure it was just easier to build the same game for PC, but if it's just changing and testing algorithms, PC could already be the bigger better version. Maybe Sony said no, or they chose a baseline that would sell to the greatest number of PC gamers .

[BassMan125]

The real question is when is Neo coming out and is it worth the wait just for No Man's Sky? I mean it's running okay on PS4, but if you want better performance there's easier option, you know, PC.

[maelstromb]

I always find these types of dev comments ridiculous... "fundamentally change"? Why? Isn't it just hardware that we're talking about at the end of the day? The same hardware found in a gaming PC, only not as high end. So to that end, the logical question to ask here is... why hasn't the PC ALREADY "fundamentally changed" the game? Oh maybe it's because the Sony and MS brands require nonsense from dev's like this to promote the brand.

[AHall88]

I can't help but get Peter Molyneux vibes from Murray.
He's clearly not that bad, but I just can't shake that feeling.

[NohansenBoy]

Better hardware makes games run better and make them look nicer. You don't say.

Also wanted to point out how you need to upgrade your consoles like every two-three years now for them to stay relevant. lel.

[Ashby_JC]

So is he saying that it will be a better (More on screen etc) overall game on PC also?

[Artemidorus]

Basically a polite way of saying the current Playstation 4 is useless.

Might be time to sell up.

[lolosgolos]

More trees doing the same boring stuff. No thanks Sean

[PS4PC]

wait wat ?
in other words _I_ to PS4 owners ?

[Mulando]

When PS4 Neo changes a game fundamentally, something in Sonys plan is really really wrong. The upgraded PS4 should only be used for higher graphically fidelity, and nothing game-changing.

btw, Sean says again, that the current PS4 version of the game is not the intended version of the game. Just like before the day1 patch.

[esmittystud101]

We need specs on Neo first before we can assume anything, right?

[MadLad]

Or just have a mid-range PC.

[TheOptimist]

So basically the PC version will also change and be different. Nice