Yahoo.com dig beyond the hype to see how Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3 stacks up against Microsoft's big white box.
Really why post news like this? Do you guys want a bunch of 10 year olds to scream obscenities at each other?
I don,t care which system is the best - by the end of the year ill get a Wii and PS3 I already got a 360 which is amazing.
But what are MS doing about the HDMI, Lik Sang have one on their site for pre-order but does anyone actually know if a cable is going to be available. I can't imagine MS is going to punish their customers by making them watch restricted Def movies
Microsoft is a smart company folks. When the HD-DVD player is released for the xbox360 it will display 1080p picture. Whether its through hdmi or componant cables is the question. You can get 1080p from componant cables if the Movies allow it without the code blocking. And its not confirmed that hdmi will be required to get 1080p signal yet. Thats why Ps3 has a 500 dollar version and has already said it doesn't change the fact that its 1080p. So what ever happens when Microsoft releases the HD-Dvd drive it will be 1080p.
Go with whatever floats your boat. Besides when there's 3 next gen. consoles out for everyone then games will finally and truly push the full power of a system. We'll see things that we've never even dreamed of, well except that one I had about pam anderson......but hey that's something else, sorry bout that. Competition breeds better gaming and innovation. I just dont like all the pre game lies that go on about this system and that system. But I suppose it's a part of the gaming world to try to hype up what needs hyping I guess. I personally chose MS and the power of the XBOX 360 as I prefer the more adult titles, I'm not a kid and the Wii is more set up for that and ps3 will certainly go there to some greater extent. All systems probably will but MS and the X will have more games that I like and want like for EX. "gears of war" "halo 3" "Huxley" "saints row" too human" "nnn3" "lost planet" "just cause" "and whatever fantstic new MMO's that are coming our way" This is my taste, and with many comes changing and coming over to our system like DMC4 and several others we know of then to me it's the only clear choice. If you like and believe killzone 2 will actually be produced for the ps3 then go for it, If mario or zelda is what gets you going then go for the Wii and have fun. All systems will also come out with new character gaming that is exclusive to them so it's not going to be more of the same ole same ole, it's going to be a good few years with much new and untried concepts. Lets have some fun. Me, I'm about to go online with Xbox Live and play GRAW, see ya all:)
Ive got my DVD player. My 360 is for games only. And when i get a ps3 i will only use it for games and online action just like my 360. and the Wii is for super mario are mario kart even red steal.
I believe he's referring to the HD-DVD addon for the 360 and how it may be useless in several years if ICT is implemented and if the Xbox 360 does not have the capability in the future for an HDMI output. So if you're buying it for movies (there would be no other reason to buy the HD-DVD addon) it may be risky if they don't have an HDMI addon because it could be useless in a few years. But this is a pretty fair article, it's obviously not trying to pick sides. There were a few parts that could be nitpicked, but overall it's a good one.
If I can get away without buying an HD DVD player and the 360 add on is cheap enough I'll go for that. I'm going to stear clear of the add on if it's not going to support full resolution HD movies
I can understand that it would give you more time to save up money for the 360, and then later get the HD-DVD addon. But with the HD-DVD addon, it will be about the same price as the $599 PS3. All I'm saying is that it's much more risky with the HD-DVD addon than getting the $599 PS3, unless you know for sure that the 360 will support HDMI ouput. If it does, it's just down to your personal choice.
I repeat. Microsoft HD-Dvd player add on will display 1080p. Whether it be through componant cable at first. Or whether they release a Hdmi cable for your 360. Its something that they have already planned on. Think about it. By the way...lol...How many of yall have a 1080p tv? lol....Right now 5% of the population has HD Tv's. But they are 1080i and 720p tv's.
Listen Real Deal i know you mean well and i'm sure you know a lot about High-def but you cannont get 1080p through conponents cables. It's not just not possible. I'm sorry but you are not real enough.
then phil harrison lied about that too. he specifically said the $500 unit will display 1080p. he also said that you won't be able to tell the difference between hdmi and component unless you have a quote "ginormous tv".
Once again I repeat. As of NOW you can get 1080p picture from componant video cables. Thats why Sony has the 500 dollar ps3 and has stated you still get the 1080p. There won't be a code blocking that from happening until 2012. Which by then there will be another console being released as the life cycle is about 5 years. Read up on it and then come back telling me I'm not the Real Deal. I know and can back what I'm talking about.
No HD-DVD movies from Columbia, MGM, Fox, or Disney; Xbox 360 requires as-yet-unreleased accessory to play HD-DVD discs; initial HD-DVD players not capable of 1080p output; studios can program discs to not display full HD resolution on older HDTVs without HDMI inputs (though they have not yet opted to do so); "managed copy" details are vague and may involve additional charges.(Cnet) http://reviews.cnet.com/452...
He even made it sound on page 3 that most of the stuff thats on a PS3 blu ray disc could be squeezed onto a dvd9. Also even though people bring it up you can't play true Blu Ray movies on the lower model because it doeasn't have HDMI output. So thats a waste of $500.00. As for games he said go with the 360. Unless you want true HD movies then wait. I say my system is for games not movies. I remember another system that try to be the first of its kind. The 3dO and that system failed.
Its easier for GAME developers to make games for the 360. Its cheaper for GAME developers to make GAMES for the 360. Developers have already been on record saying that Microsofts XNA is the most advanced tool set made for making games. X box Live is light years ahead of computer online playing and sony online. Its so advanced that Windows Vista will finally get Live anywhere so pc gamers can experience what Xbox players have for years now. Microsoft isn't the richest company for nothing. Dreamcast failed against Sony because they didn't have the money to compete. Microsoft does and has the creative genious to Plow through the competition. Ever wonder why xbox gamers don't down Sony fans and call them names? We are happy gamers and don't feel at all threatened. Now on the other hand Sony fans feel threatened by Xbox brand. They call names and say things that make no sense from a gaming stand point. I say....buy a 360 and enjoy playing games again. We have and we do.
I'd better post now before the comments get overun by whiners. I found the article fair, they make the thoughts behind the purchases very clear: Don't get PS3 unless you are passionate about hi-def movies. I'm not interested in high tech movie playback at the moment. High definition is pretty, but the novelty is wearing off very quickly. I probably wont be buying the HD-DVD attachment for my 360, but if I ever decide to I don't think i'll feel sore even if they don't put an HDMI port on. The point is, I didn't plan on buying an HD player, so HD battles aren't going to sway my console purchase.
My DVD movies look subleme on my VGA TFT connection with my 360. I don't know why i should get better within now and 2 years?
Great Article! Some really good points in there. The writer of the article even states the BluRay is the PS3's main draw , it really should be the games. I also like how he pointed out the downgraded specs on the PS3 and that Sony is losing exclusive titles.
Fact is that HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray WILL NOT be decided in the next 4 years. By the time an actual winner is clear, the consoles will both be ready for the scrap-heap as anotehr new generation of hardware is revealed. At THAT time, next-gen optical media drives will be in both consoles, but the difference is that those who do not buty PS3 will not have subsidied Sony's effort to "win" with the Trojan Horse PS3...
i am sure that ms looks at you, you fool
I agree with most of the above posters that the article points to the PS3's BD ROM as it's biggest draw. This benifit of course is not for games but for movies. Personally I will not be purchasing any high def movies until a winner is declared. As such I see no reason to own either of the two competing formats until either of them is crowned king. I will go on record by stating that while they are both going to be great consoles I prefer MS's blend of hardware, software, and services over that of the competition.
Oh, and #10 has is spot on. The whole debate over copy protection crippling players that don't support HDMI is unfounded. The fact that Sony is not providing HDMI in their "el cheapo" sku should be proof by itself. This is further backed up by the rumors flying around the industry at present that copy protection won't be implemented until around 2012.
You hit it right on the head. By 2012 new consoles will be coming out. Sony and Microsoft wouldn't release it if it couldn't play 1080p movies. Thats the whole advantage to hd dvd and blu ray.
:) it was good. W/E you buy have fun and stop flaming.
Both systems don't need HDMI. This is because by the time the Image constraint token is applied to movies it will be in the year 2010 or 2011 at which we will be heading to the next generation of consoles and standalone players will be cheap.
I already have the 360 now I need to get the Wii, and last but not least the PS3 in 2007 or when it's cheaper. I say it's best to get the PS3 in 2007, because people might get a rush system that flash red lights constantly in 2006( Oh no!! I'm not taking that risk like I did with the 360, but it never happen I was lucky). In 2007 Metal Gear solid 4: Guns of Patriots, and possibly Killzone 2 will be out for the PS3. 2007 is where it gets better. Nuff said.
Only a select few players will actually get a PS3 in 2006. Even if the system does launch on time in November, there won't be close to enough units to go around. The thing will sell out instantly, so unless you are very lucky or very connected, I wouldn't bank on having a PS3 (unless of course you are a moron and would buy one off E-Bay for 3-4X retail cost). That means the majority of the first wave of PS3 adopters won't even get a console until mid-2007 at the earliest. At THAT point, things start to get interesting for real. 360 will be a "mature" system and its game line-up is impressive (capped off of course by Halo 3, but also including Mass Effect and Bioshock and the holiday 2006 line-up, headlined by Gears of War). PS3 SHOULD be past teh supply issues and should be putting out its second generation of hardware (with the launch bugs mainly fixed). It should finally start to see some serious releases (MGS4, possibly the mythical Killzone2, and many other titles. It is this time next year that the console war really starts. Sony can't make a dent in the market with only 2 Million launch units (and I seriously doubt they can make another 2 Million in the 6weeks between launch and end of 2006 - as they have promised). They need to have the factories humming at maximum output to get enough units on the market to really compete. It is not enough for PS3 to simply "release". What starts the console war in earnest is when anyone thinking about upgrading their game console can walk into any retail outlet and buy one based on choice. Right now, and truthfully for the rest of 2006 and into 2007, Microsoft is the ONLY console that can claim that. PS3 and Wii are still very much vaporware at the moment.
made me want to like Sony again... darn, I got a tear in my eye!
i thought this article was kinda dumb and pointless.
“Major industry Specialists as well as major game developers including PGR3 developer for X360 clears how Blu-ray has the 'EDGE' here, clearing that the rain isn't in PGR3 for the content had to be cut off so either a game can be pretty on x360 or it can be futuristic. For a true next gen title to be on 360, its a sure trade-off.” The only reason GTA 4 will have episodic content is because the developers can’t fit all the contents on a DVD9 disk. LMAO ”Both the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 can play DVD movies, but the question on everyone's mind is how do they handle the next-generation formats? Microsoft has announced a HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360, set to be available by the time the PlayStation 3 launches this fall. With no confirmed price, many are guessing that the cost of an Xbox 360 plus the HD-DVD add-on will equal that of a PlayStation 3.” Yeah except with the PS3 you also get 1. Wireless blue-tooth technology for up to 7 controllers 2. Free online multiplayer (just come to grips Xbots, it will be Free)……. "You can't charge money for network matching and other basic services. These things are just taken for granted on the PC." "On the PS3, basic services will be taken for granted while content will be the bread and butter of our business." 3. Out of the box Ethernet and WiFi for Internet connectivity 4. The highest-end video output (HDMI) 5. Motion sensing technology which will enhance game play. 6. 60GB hard drive 7. At least 97% compatibility unlike 360’s very low percentage of backwards compatibility 8. Blu-ray disks for better game storage 9. Four USB ports 10. Memory stick slots 11. Not to mention all the neat stuff one will be able to do with the PSP and PS3 combined. We SONY fanboys are really stupid for wanting this stuff. Microsoft is brainwashing you people just like the US government brainwashes it’s own people.
That entire post was really strange , where do you get your info from and what planet are you from? The American government brainwashes it's people? What?
1. Wireless blue-tooth technology for up to 7 controllers (Not true, Sony put it back down to 4 Controllers) 2. Free online multiplayer (just come to grips Xbots, it will be Free)……. "You can't charge money for network matching and other basic services. These things are just taken for granted on the PC." "On the PS3, basic services will be taken for granted while content will be the bread and butter of our business." (This is more likely false since Sony said it's free for BASIC services, so more likely you have to pay to play games) 3. Out of the box Ethernet and WiFi for Internet connectivity. (XBOX 360 has this to, they had this since the XBOX 1) 4. The highest-end video output. ( Do we even care) 5. Motion sensing technology which will enhance game play. (And NO Controller Vibration... which sucks) 6. 60GB hard drive. (XBOX 360 will have that soon enough) 7. At least 97% compatibility unlike 360’s very low percentage of backwards compatibility. (Microosft stated there main goal is to get all games B/C so your claim really does serves no purpose) 8. Blu-ray disks for better game storage (Blue-ray could still fail) 9. Four USB ports. (Good for you) 10. Memory stick slots. (And the XBOX 360 has two Memory Stick slots as well) 11. Not to mention all the neat stuff one will be able to do with the PSP and PS3 combined (Even though not many people own a PSP) So you just got owned Bill Gates!
#18, you by far sound like the most brainwashed poster on this thread. The article was very unbiased and most of the posters' responses weren't that bad, either. That is, of course, until yours. First off, you really need to come back to reality when it comes to disc storage and hardware capabilities for both systems. As for disc capacity, read this: www.gamesfirst/?id=1132 . Also don't forget about H-DVD, which will add 4 more gigs to the DVD9's capacity and can be used in standard DVD readers. As for hardware capabilities, go to any unbiased tech site. The article states it in a very unbiased manner. For games, the two systems are equivalent and any unbiased tech/developer backs this up. Your arguements of features being removed from the 360 due to capabilities or disc space are completely off base. In fact, if you look at the games shown at E3, the 360 clearly has the edge. This is, of course, because developers have had more time with the 360. In the end, anyone but brainwashed 'diehards' from both sides will agree that the quality of games will be nearly identical on both systems. The game line-ups, however, will be different. In addition, the only predicted advantages will be online service for the 360 and movie playback for the PS3. Then there is the price. For me, personally, a better online service is my choice since I care most about the games. I also like the 360 line-up better but this is personal preference. If someone really cares about movie playback, wants to take the risk with bluray, and doesn't care about spending more money to play the same games, then the PS3 would be an attractive prospect. It's that simple, and the article says more or less the same thing.
OK, you are certainly free to express your opinions on the GAME SYSTEMS relative merits and weaknesses, but who in the hell made this a political discussion forum? Kindly keep your ignorant Anti-American political ranting to yourself or in a forum that supports those discussions. As for your list of reasons to buy the PS3, if you want it, buy it. If it suits your needs, get one. Same thing goes for anyone with a 360 or planning to get a Wii. Get the system or systems that you want, but to blindly believe that Sony's vaporware box is already THE only and superior choice is assinine. Point-by-point: You Say : 1. Wireless blue-tooth technology for up to 7 controllers Reality: Not true. 4 =/= 7. Of course, by some Sony fanboy math, $600 is LESS than $400 too, so I guess you can be forgiven here... You Say: 2. Free online multiplayer (just come to grips Xbots, it will be Free)……. "You can't charge money for network matching and other basic services. These things are just taken for granted on the PC." "On the PS3, basic services will be taken for granted while content will be the bread and butter of our business." Reality: The quote itself says it all "BASIC SERVICES" will be free. Even if Sony does offer free online gaming, do you honestly believe that if they are successful that XBL won't immediately offer a "free" ad-based model? And IF Sony's service AND gaming are free on-line, do you REALLY think it won't be advertising driven? Guarnateed that they are NOT going to give away online revenue at the same time they are bleeding cash from every orifice on hardware losses.... You say: 3. Out of the box Ethernet and WiFi for Internet connectivity Reality: This is irrelevant. Why> Because although XB360 does not have it ""out of the box", if someone needed wireless connectivity, they likely had an adapter for the XBox or the PS2 already and guess what? Yup, those existing adapters DO WORK on trhe 360 as well. So if you NEED WiFi connectivity, you likely already have it. Now, on the flipside, you can also CHOOSE to have it on 360 (if you did not already have it previously, but it is not included, so in those rare cases, you do have a point in favor of the PS3 there....) You say: 4. The highest-end video output (HDMI) Reality: It doesn't matter again. Why? Because until the ICT flag is employed, the video signal on component or VGA is indistinguishable fromthe video signal on HDMI. Also, since almost everyone has their Dolby Digital surround hooked up through a receiver, unless your receiver already does HDMI switching, you will STILL have to use a digital optical or coaxial cable from the game machine to the receiver to have Dolby Digital sound on your games. That kind of makes the whole "digital audio and video on a single cable" advantage of HDMI moot. You say: 5. Motion sensing technology which will enhance game play. Reality: This is purely spectualtion on your part and really rampant fanboyism. Have you personally PLAYED a game that was enhanced by motion sensing technology on PS3? I doubt it. More likely you are basing this on wishful thinking and press release hype that you read somewhere. You say: 6. 60GB hard drive Reality: If the games themself don't actually run off the hard drive, then what advantage is this again? Fact is that my 20 GB HDD on the 360 is more than adequate for game demos, saves, trailers and HD movie trailers. The XSata transfer kit would allow me to transfer any of that information back and forth to a PC (if I desired) also. 60 GB HDD is simply a number to imply superiority when in fact, all it really allows you to do is save more stuff to the game machine. Wow, that is exciting. Doesn't really help play games better, doesn't make the games look any better, but hot damn, I can store extra stuff right there that won't really get used! (I know this from experience by saving downloaded game demos for a while and then realizing, once the demo is played, there is no reason to save it - it is a freaking DEMO!!!!) Since full games and digital distribution to HDD are NOT in the plans for the console world at this time - despite the incoherent ramblings of Kutaragi-san - again, the bigger HDD is essentially not a big benefit. You say: 7. At least 97% compatibility unlike 360’s very low percentage of backwards compatibility Reality: If you would honestly pay $600 instead of $130 (or free if you just KEEP YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM that would require BC in the first place) just so you could keep playing your games from PS2, then I am at a loss of how to explain how retarded such a move really is. Why would you need BC? 1) you sold your original system or broke it, 2) you never owned it in the first place but want to buy "last-gen" games to play n your "next-gen" system. Backward Compatability is the single most over-hyped and under-used "feature" of ANY console. I have owned PS1 and PS2 and NEVER played a single PS1 game on my PS2. Why - because I kept my PS1 for such cases, but in reality because once the games for the PS2 came out I had no interest in the old games any more anyway. Exact same thing with Xb and Xb360. With very few exceptions (which I could still play on my original XB if I REALLY wanted to) I have not used the BC of the 360 anyway. A useless feature is hardly an advantage, and by all accounts, even as late as this week, Sony is STILL trying to figure out HOW to make that true. Believe it if you want, but until you're really playing PS1 games on your $6000 PS3, it is not really much of an advantage. And if you ARE playing PS1 games on a PS3 that would be a sad indictment of the games of the [email protected] that they were so uncompelling that Sony gamers found it necessary to go back two generations to find something to play on their PS3... You say: 8. Blu-ray disks for better game storage Reality: Stop sniffing the Sony glue...they have no intention of publishing 25 or 50 GB games any time soon. I guess if you love your full motion video cut scenes that this MAY be useful, but from a gaming perspective, no chance. All the proof I need is in the Crysis game coming for PC. One look at the photo-realistic graphics of THAT game and the realization that it is on PC (so DVD-9 or even multiple CD-ROMs!!!!!) means that BD "games" are not only unnecessary, they are highly unlikely for at least 4-5 years. This is not even touching on the added development time and money it would cost publishers to make games that big or the fact that they have no financial incentive to make games bigger and longer when they can just as easily take those extra levels and depth of gam,eplay and package it off as a sequel the following year to maximize revenues. Blu-Ray for "gaming" purposes is NOT going to be used in PS3 until at best 2010 or 2011, just in time for the system to be replaced anyway. You say: 9. Four USB ports Reality: Xb360 has 3 USB ports already. That whopping one extra USB port is certainly a titanic edge to the PS3 isn't it? You say: 10. Memory stick slots Reality: This is really too lame to even bother with... You say: 11. Not to mention all the neat stuff one will be able to do with the PSP and PS3 combined. Reality: OK, where to start with this nonsense? PSP (if you have one at all) is a handheld game machine that is a very poor peripheral device to begin with. It is not as good as a regular controller, so it doesn't really double as an extra wireless controller. It makes a nifty rear-view mirror though (that is IF you can master the gymnastics required to hold a PSP up, while playing a racing game). The other thing about PSP being a "benefit" to the PS3 is that if you wish to claim it as such, then you should tack on the extra $249 (maybe it is $199 now, I'm not sure) to the cost of owning a fully functional PS3. Instead of $600, you have just pushed the hardware costs up to $800 and now you are trying to tell us that the PS3 is worth TWICE as MUCH as a Premium 360????? Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
"the rain isn't in PGR3 for the content had to be cut off so either a game can be pretty on x360 or it can be futuristic. For a true next gen title to be on 360, its a sure trade-off.” Moostache, kid find a woman...you blab too much. Society is DOOMED!!!
Most major governments do brainwash some of their own constituents, not just the US. Most of this technology came about through Nazi research during WWII. Research it yourselves by looking into project monarch and project paperclip. A lot of this info was released to the public because of the Freedom of Information Act. Serious stuff.... Just to remain on topic, Sony is cutting down their specs on a daily basis.
This guy is way off. Nice try. All launch games for the 360 were missing features but not because of disc space constraints but because they were rushed to make launch. Developers have all said that their is more than enough room on the dvd 9 disc to create next gen games. A matter of fact they are dual layered and not one game...either for the PC or the 360 has come close to filling one side of the dvd 9 disc. I'm not even going to comment on the whole Brainwash comments. lol...
PGR3 only takes up 4.5gb so I dont know what Bill gates is talkin about and where did he see that quote? As for the whole blu-ray argument I;m going to end that with this: Over the course of its life, the size of the average Xbox title increased by 77%. If the Xbox 360 size increases at the same rate we can expect the average Xbox 360 title in 4 or 5 years to be around 7.40 gigs, and to occupy about 87% of the disc's capacity. Additionally, you'd find that size is not an indicator of quality, either in graphical quality or storyline. No one would accuse Doom 3 of being worse looking than Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, but it's almost 3 gigabytes smaller (Terminator 3: 5.67 gigs; Doom 3: 2.957 gigs). Half-life 2, for example, is only 2 gigabytes. Large games may simply be the result of poorly optimized programming, not an indication that they couldn't be smaller if they had to be, and still deliver the same experience. • XNA: XNA is a development tool that Microsoft introduced in 2004. XNA helps developers build games more quickly and more efficiently. XNA represents a refinement of everything that has been learned developing for the Xbox, which has an architecture that is very similar to the Xbox 360. As a new development tool, it represents a change in the way that game developers might program, and how it impacts on filesize is an unknown factor. • Procedural Synthesis: Procedural synthesis is has a great deal of potential to effect the Xbox 360's filesizes. In short, procedural synthesis is a way of producing graphics that Microsoft has pushed heavily with the introduction of the Xbox 360, including specific hardware functions designed to do handle procedural synthesis. It uses algorithms to produce high quality graphics out of extremely small files. For the best example of what procedural synthesis can do, check out .kkrieger, which means Warrior in German. This first person shooter is built almost entirely from procedural graphics, and as a consequence occupies about 96 Kilobytes of space. Yes, the game responsible for this screenshot here, here, and here could fit almost 14 copies on an old-fashioned 1.4 megabyte floppy disk. You can download a beta version of this game from the developer's website here, but be warned that it's fairly buggy, and meant more as a technology demonstration than anything else. Procedural synthesis is the reason that Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has such brilliant forests. Oblivion makes use of a technology called SpeedTree, a middleware product for procedurally generating forests and foliage. You can see other examples of their software in screenshots here, here, and here. All sony fanboys who talk sh*t about 360s storage have officially been PWNED. PS SERECT aahahhahhhahaah
If the only reason I'm going to buy a PS3 is because of pretty Cinema and nothing about the game itself is any different. Than I'm saving my money. I'm not going to buy the PS3 for movies or better looking game cinema. but to play a better looking game. Sony better have a game that you can't do on the 360 for me to part with my cash.
If you want a great platform to play the highest end games right now, then the Xbox 360 is the only choice to go with. Xbox Live is an extremely impressive online service, while the software catalog already contains some must-buys and is rapidly expanding. If you want a system that doubles as a next-gen movie player, then you need to wait. The PlayStation 3 60GB is the only game system with a confirmed HDMI output and the only one guaranteed to playback all Blu-ray movies in full resolution. Until we hear more from Microsoft, the Xbox 360 can't promise to run HD-DVD content at its intended resolution. Nintendo Wii Console Wii Controller Bear in mind that even with a steep $599 price tag, early adopters will often snatch up all initial shipments. This means that unless you pre-order, chances are good the only place you'll be able to find the PlayStation 3 in November is on eBay (at an insanely high cost). Finally, there's the cost-conscious consumer that simply wants to play games and doesn't really care about media center features or hi-def movies. If you fall into this category, there's always the Wii! Nintendo's unique platform is the only one coming in at a confirmed sub-$250 point, with a sophisticated motion-sensing controller, and a proven track record of being inventive with new technology. REALITY
Motion sensing controllers are not new. Microsoft was the first to use that funcion in a controller. I had one 6 years ago for my computer. Sidewinder. Not fun folks. You'll see. Now Nintendo might be able to pull it off for their kiddy games. It might be fun for them. But Sony? lol...
sigh. here we go. look, PS3 is very expensive and delayed, the 360 is out, cheap and has lots of great games. go figure.
ps2 is also out, and has alot more and better games, so why buying a xbox360 ?
1. It's better than the PS2 and the XBOX 2. More variety of games than the PS2 3. A full fledged entertaiment system with great graphics 4. The Best Online Service Ever 5. Halo 3 need I say more?
do you believe the crap you just said xbox 1.5 has like 0 good games and veriety? ARE YOU KIDDING ME. shooter after shooter.and is that all the features you could come up with for the xbox 1.5
So Oblivion and final Fantasy are FPS's now? Honestly who gives a crap about what genre a game is when it's a good game... that is why the FPS genre is the most popular right now. The XBOX 360 has many types of games for it now like FPS, 3rd Person, fighting games, RPG and MMOG's. Do you honestly have to keep on making an A$$ out of yourself because thats what you usually do.
Ok, look, we have great sports games, great classic arcade games, great RPG's, (well, two!) great driving and fighting games... and obviously shooting. what games do YOU actually play gametime? if it's japanese RPG's then yes, maybe you do need a PS3, but do you really want to spend $600+ for one game? Okay, now, the 360 has a low price tag, the option to FULLY upgrade, next gen graphics/video/audio power, full wireless microphone and headphones for online games, gaming achievements, rumble pads, free exclusive demos and exclusive downloadable content, free HD music videos and movie trailers, full USB keyboard compatibilty, full wireless compatibility, a great DVD and MP3 system, great customer support, HD-DVD, HD games, cross-platform gaming with PC, a low cost HD camera with motion detection. Now, the games?? *takes deep breath* saints row gta4 chromehounds stranglehold goldenaxe halo 3 dead rising gears of war mass effect lost odessey dead or alive 5 FORZA 2 fable 2 viva pinata lost planet prey sega rally enchanted arms double agent call of duty 3 too human 99 nights GET THAT? Just go buy a 360 and come play, you know you want to.
There, I think that was like 36 reasons to buy a 360.
The 360 clearly has my type of games. Some killer exclusives and the 360 has the graphics edge and MS is my type of company. MS is for the consumers vs. Sony is in it for themselves!! Plus all these [email protected] saying "oh 1080" blah blah and the blu ray.. I think they should do a poll-How many people purchasing the ps3 have a tv that can display 1080p? I bet it would be 99.99% don't have 1... So whats the point? I deffinatley don't want to be forced to buy a Blu Ray when it most likely won't be the standered. HD DVD is cheaper it does the same thing and there is no need for more room on the disc!!! HD DVD is cheaper and accomplishes the same thing. I being a consumer will choose HD DVD over blu ray b/c ultimately the consumer chooses and I choose HD DVD AND THE 360!!
Hah! Here we go again. I'll put this in an old saying if you don't mind. Behind every strong man is a woman; behind every game console is a good game. You put out a load of terrific game on the Ps3, guess what's going to happen? That's right, people will ignore the price tag if possible and purchase a Playstation 3. Same said for the Xbox 360. Sure, you've got those devoted sony and microsoft fans, but like everyone else they have common sense. You're not going to buy a system that has poor games, just cause you like Sony. I'm sorry, but if you do you are obviously unfit to even have a game system. Not to be cruel, but this is ONLY my opinion, I do not reject anyone else's.
A relatively unbiased article on the two titans of next-gen!! Funny thing is, fanboys on both sides are spinning it however they can! LOL! Wow. To me as a gamer, the important info is (claims from both companies aside) that the systems performance is VIRTUALLY IDENTICLE. This is in the real world, folks, not that fantasy land where Sony and Microsoft can both try to claim that their system is the most powerful. The games will look exactly the same. Less exclusives this time around, coupled with near-identicle performance means more good games for both systems, the SAME games, as a matter of fact. So buy a 360 or a PS3, whichever you like, and bring on the next-gen gaming goodness!
sweet atleast ur not a total idiot...their pretty identical and more powerful at certain aspects but not overwhelming over the other in any way
this is a good article, but none of the 3 will fail, they'll all be successful, probably about 40-50,000 a peice, but we'll see if the gaming community grows which it might since gaming is very cool now with the new visuals, those numbers can grow, Microsoft and Sony will be mostly dead even with the ps selling slightly more because of hard core sony fans and Microsoft picking up with the people who dont want to spend $600 and the rest is the parents who just want something for their kids to shut up and play with for an hour.
Then what you're saying is this time around there is room for three systems in the average household instead of two. Well if that happens I guess there has to be more true gamers than before.
I dono, both systems are pretty sweet...or at least the ps3 sounds pretty sweet. Sure the price is...well it seems crazy, but i dono. One thing that looks like a pretty good spec is the storage space of a blue ray disk. On the xboz 360 disk, they can cram 9 GB of stuff on there. With the blue ray disks, they can manage 50 GBs!! Imgagine how huge they can make some of those games!!! Yeah man, open world games...here we come
Well yes and no, 3 systems? probably not...but I think with all the new advertisements for new systems the base for gaming is growing, so their will be a bigger base of buyers than before
Hey what's up ya'll, man look i decided a while back maybe a week ago, that im done argueing over which system is better, to be honest i love games period, and i absolutely adore my ps2 i had mine since launch and love it til this day. Now that i have my xbox 360 im excited about it, i had mine since Dec. 24th 2005. Im not interested in the ps3 at all tho to be honest. Like the article said, the ps3 will appeal to movie fans, i love movies but not really interested in watching them on my console but if i was its nice to know i have options. However i am a music fanatic and thats another reason i love my 360, i have music downloads like crazy, burned cd's like you wouldnt beleive, my verizon vcast phone with music, music, and more music on it, my pc music galore, my 360 has 498 songs on it, with 11gb remaining so of course i was going to go for the 360. I love the hardware, i love the controller, i love xbox live, i love what they've offered. Im happy that the games are picking up and as with all systems eventually the library of games will grow. So for the people with the 360's you know my joy. To the people anticpating the ps3 enjoy it its just that simple.
Good Post, I'm very satisfied as well, I have had mine since November 22nd, I was a lucky one...but I have had, an atari, Nintendo, super nintendo, N64, Genesis, PS, ps2, and xbox and I have never been more excited about a system than since my PS when I played MK Trilogy for hours a day with my friends, I have never gone on the internet to talk about it or study it, I just had them to play, I think Microsoft has done an amazing job putting out a product that appeals to alot of people, they supported very well, the game lineup is solid and has some very very nice games coming out and it's exciting. As for the consoles, I don't hate the ps3, or despise Sony (dont like their business practices) i'm all about the games, Microsoft has done a great job and we all know Sony will as well, if the PS3 is as exciting for you as my PS and 360 are now than I say you will indeed be pleasantly surprised
Where the Xbox 360 lags is in storage space for games. Getting a year's head start on Sony meant using the standard DVD format for games, which limits software developers to around 9GB of space. In comparison, the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray format can support around 50GB. On paper that sounds like a huge disadvantage, but in reality the difference is minimal. The biggest part of any game is typically the movies and the art used for the visuals. While PlayStation 3 developers will no doubt fill their discs with high definition cinema scenes, those same images can still be squeezed onto a standard DVD in a lower resolution. After all, most of a game is spent playing and not watching cutscenes (usually!). With similar system specs, picking a winner is going to come down to the games.
Agreed. I don't see games filling a DVD in the next 5 years so I don't think this is a problem although I do think that Microsoft is necessary can use the HD-DVD as a game drive, whether they say so or not
Now that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 specifications have been announced, it is possible to do a real world performance comparison of the two systems. There are three critical performance aspects of a console: Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance. The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell. Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU. Memory System Bandwidth The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times. The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one. Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors. The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance. Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth. CONCLUSION When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment. However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation
Watch The Sonyfans are gonna read that and either B*tch and flame us, or there gonna go sit down in a corner and cry!
Play Station 3 WILL revolutionize gaming ONCE AGAIN like the PS2 and PSP did but FURTHER! Microsoft is screwed. They're not sell much 360s and they will be sued too. Microsoft's Windows Vista is not selling at all. Noone wants to buy another OS just to play Halo 2 on PC? Infact they will be SUED and SCREWED because alot of people will be burning free copies of Windows Vista. So what is the point of having it? AND The PS3 will OFCOURSE not only surpass the 360 AND the next gen of X Box after the 360 IF MS releases the next gen of X Box after 360. Here is the reason. JUST like SOny said the PlayStation 3 WILL have a long LONG! life cycle! Here is why the PS3 IS a computer. Hard Drive will be upgradable ofcourse. U CAN play IBM and apple games on the PS3 PLUS Hackers emulators. The PS3 will be UPGRADED 5 YEARS after the launch. That's right. OH and did I forget 1 more BANG? The PlayStation 3 WILL have QUAD GPU! WAHOO! I was always glad to be with Sony all the way ever since PlayStation. Also Sony almost put Nintendo outta business or if not BUY Nintendo but luckily Microsoft saved Nintendo. THey bought Rare. AND I have a LINK to prove it! http://www.youtube.com/watc...
PS3 has appearance but the 360 has the games
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