But what are MS doing about the HDMI, Lik Sang have one on their site for pre-order but does anyone actually know if a cable is going to be available. I can't imagine MS is going to punish their customers by making them watch restricted Def movies
Microsoft is a smart company folks. When the HD-DVD player is released for the xbox360 it will display 1080p picture. Whether its through hdmi or componant cables is the question. You can get 1080p from componant cables if the Movies allow it without the code blocking. And its not confirmed that hdmi will be required to get 1080p signal yet. Thats why Ps3 has a 500 dollar version and has already said it doesn't change the fact that its 1080p. So what ever happens when Microsoft releases the HD-Dvd drive it will be 1080p.
Go with whatever floats your boat. Besides when there's 3 next gen. consoles out for everyone then games will finally and truly push the full power of a system. We'll see things that we've never even dreamed of, well except that one I had about pam anderson......but hey that's something else, sorry bout that. Competition breeds better gaming and innovation. I just dont like all the pre game lies that go on about this system and that system. But I suppose it's a part of the gaming world to try to hype up what needs hyping I guess. I personally chose MS and the power of the XBOX 360 as I prefer the more adult titles, I'm not a kid and the Wii is more set up for that and ps3 will certainly go there to some greater extent. All systems probably will but MS and the X will have more games that I like and want like for EX. "gears of war" "halo 3" "Huxley" "saints row" too human" "nnn3" "lost planet" "just cause" "and whatever fantstic new MMO's that are coming our way" This is my taste, and with many comes changing and coming over to our system like DMC4 and several others we know of then to me it's the only clear choice. If you like and believe killzone 2 will actually be produced for the ps3 then go for it, If mario or zelda is what gets you going then go for the Wii and have fun. All systems will also come out with new character gaming that is exclusive to them so it's not going to be more of the same ole same ole, it's going to be a good few years with much new and untried concepts. Lets have some fun. Me, I'm about to go online with Xbox Live and play GRAW, see ya all:)
I believe he's referring to the HD-DVD addon for the 360 and how it may be useless in several years if ICT is implemented and if the Xbox 360 does not have the capability in the future for an HDMI output. So if you're buying it for movies (there would be no other reason to buy the HD-DVD addon) it may be risky if they don't have an HDMI addon because it could be useless in a few years.
But this is a pretty fair article, it's obviously not trying to pick sides. There were a few parts that could be nitpicked, but overall it's a good one.
If I can get away without buying an HD DVD player and the 360 add on is cheap enough I'll go for that. I'm going to stear clear of the add on if it's not going to support full resolution HD movies
I can understand that it would give you more time to save up money for the 360, and then later get the HD-DVD addon. But with the HD-DVD addon, it will be about the same price as the $599 PS3. All I'm saying is that it's much more risky with the HD-DVD addon than getting the $599 PS3, unless you know for sure that the 360 will support HDMI ouput. If it does, it's just down to your personal choice.
I repeat. Microsoft HD-Dvd player add on will display 1080p. Whether it be through componant cable at first. Or whether they release a Hdmi cable for your 360. Its something that they have already planned on. Think about it. By the way...lol...How many of yall have a 1080p tv? lol....Right now 5% of the population has HD Tv's. But they are 1080i and 720p tv's.
Listen Real Deal i know you mean well and i'm sure you know a lot about High-def but you cannont get 1080p through conponents cables. It's not just not possible. I'm sorry but you are not real enough.
then phil harrison lied about that too. he specifically said the $500 unit will display 1080p. he also said that you won't be able to tell the difference between hdmi and component unless you have a quote "ginormous tv".
Once again I repeat. As of NOW you can get 1080p picture from componant video cables. Thats why Sony has the 500 dollar ps3 and has stated you still get the 1080p. There won't be a code blocking that from happening until 2012. Which by then there will be another console being released as the life cycle is about 5 years. Read up on it and then come back telling me I'm not the Real Deal. I know and can back what I'm talking about.
No HD-DVD movies from Columbia, MGM, Fox, or Disney; Xbox 360 requires as-yet-unreleased accessory to play HD-DVD discs; initial HD-DVD players not capable of 1080p output; studios can program discs to not display full HD resolution on older HDTVs without HDMI inputs (though they have not yet opted to do so); "managed copy" details are vague and may involve additional charges.(Cnet)
He even made it sound on page 3 that most of the stuff thats on a PS3 blu ray disc could be squeezed onto a dvd9. Also even though people bring it up you can't play true Blu Ray movies on the lower model because it doeasn't have HDMI output. So thats a waste of $500.00. As for games he said go with the 360. Unless you want true HD movies then wait. I say my system is for games not movies. I remember another system that try to be the first of its kind. The 3dO and that system failed.
Its easier for GAME developers to make games for the 360. Its cheaper for GAME developers to make GAMES for the 360. Developers have already been on record saying that Microsofts XNA is the most advanced tool set made for making games. X box Live is light years ahead of computer online playing and sony online. Its so advanced that Windows Vista will finally get Live anywhere so pc gamers can experience what Xbox players have for years now. Microsoft isn't the richest company for nothing. Dreamcast failed against Sony because they didn't have the money to compete. Microsoft does and has the creative genious to Plow through the competition. Ever wonder why xbox gamers don't down Sony fans and call them names? We are happy gamers and don't feel at all threatened. Now on the other hand Sony fans feel threatened by Xbox brand. They call names and say things that make no sense from a gaming stand point. I say....buy a 360 and enjoy playing games again. We have and we do.
I'd better post now before the comments get overun by whiners. I found the article fair, they make the thoughts behind the purchases very clear: Don't get PS3 unless you are passionate about hi-def movies. I'm not interested in high tech movie playback at the moment. High definition is pretty, but the novelty is wearing off very quickly. I probably wont be buying the HD-DVD attachment for my 360, but if I ever decide to I don't think i'll feel sore even if they don't put an HDMI port on. The point is, I didn't plan on buying an HD player, so HD battles aren't going to sway my console purchase.
Great Article! Some really good points in there. The writer of the article even states the BluRay is the PS3's main draw , it really should be the games. I also like how he pointed out the downgraded specs on the PS3 and that Sony is losing exclusive titles.
Fact is that HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray WILL NOT be decided in the next 4 years. By the time an actual winner is clear, the consoles will both be ready for the scrap-heap as anotehr new generation of hardware is revealed.
At THAT time, next-gen optical media drives will be in both consoles, but the difference is that those who do not buty PS3 will not have subsidied Sony's effort to "win" with the Trojan Horse PS3...
I agree with most of the above posters that the article points to the PS3's BD ROM as it's biggest draw. This benifit of course is not for games but for movies. Personally I will not be purchasing any high def movies until a winner is declared. As such I see no reason to own either of the two competing formats until either of them is crowned king.
I will go on record by stating that while they are both going to be great consoles I prefer MS's blend of hardware, software, and services over that of the competition.
Oh, and #10 has is spot on. The whole debate over copy protection crippling players that don't support HDMI is unfounded. The fact that Sony is not providing HDMI in their "el cheapo" sku should be proof by itself. This is further backed up by the rumors flying around the industry at present that copy protection won't be implemented until around 2012.
You hit it right on the head. By 2012 new consoles will be coming out. Sony and Microsoft wouldn't release it if it couldn't play 1080p movies. Thats the whole advantage to hd dvd and blu ray.
Both systems don't need HDMI. This is because by the time the Image constraint token is applied to movies it will be in the year 2010 or 2011 at which we will be heading to the next generation of consoles and standalone players will be cheap.
I already have the 360 now I need to get the Wii, and last but not least the PS3 in 2007 or when it's cheaper. I say it's best to get the PS3 in 2007, because people might get a rush system that flash red lights constantly in 2006( Oh no!! I'm not taking that risk like I did with the 360, but it never happen I was lucky). In 2007 Metal Gear solid 4: Guns of Patriots, and possibly Killzone 2 will be out for the PS3. 2007 is where it gets better. Nuff said.
Only a select few players will actually get a PS3 in 2006. Even if the system does launch on time in November, there won't be close to enough units to go around. The thing will sell out instantly, so unless you are very lucky or very connected, I wouldn't bank on having a PS3 (unless of course you are a moron and would buy one off E-Bay for 3-4X retail cost).
That means the majority of the first wave of PS3 adopters won't even get a console until mid-2007 at the earliest. At THAT point, things start to get interesting for real. 360 will be a "mature" system and its game line-up is impressive (capped off of course by Halo 3, but also including Mass Effect and Bioshock and the holiday 2006 line-up, headlined by Gears of War). PS3 SHOULD be past teh supply issues and should be putting out its second generation of hardware (with the launch bugs mainly fixed). It should finally start to see some serious releases (MGS4, possibly the mythical Killzone2, and many other titles.
It is this time next year that the console war really starts. Sony can't make a dent in the market with only 2 Million launch units (and I seriously doubt they can make another 2 Million in the 6weeks between launch and end of 2006 - as they have promised). They need to have the factories humming at maximum output to get enough units on the market to really compete. It is not enough for PS3 to simply "release". What starts the console war in earnest is when anyone thinking about upgrading their game console can walk into any retail outlet and buy one based on choice.
Right now, and truthfully for the rest of 2006 and into 2007, Microsoft is the ONLY console that can claim that. PS3 and Wii are still very much vaporware at the moment.
Really why post news like this? Do you guys want a bunch of 10 year olds to scream obscenities at each other?
I don,t care which system is the best - by the end of the year ill get a Wii and PS3 I already got a 360 which is amazing.
But what are MS doing about the HDMI, Lik Sang have one on their site for pre-order but does anyone actually know if a cable is going to be available. I can't imagine MS is going to punish their customers by making them watch restricted Def movies
Go with whatever floats your boat. Besides when there's 3 next gen. consoles out for everyone then games will finally and truly push the full power of a system. We'll see things that we've never even dreamed of, well except that one I had about pam anderson......but hey that's something else, sorry bout that.
Competition breeds better gaming and innovation. I just dont like all the pre game lies that go on about this system and that system. But I suppose it's a part of the gaming world to try to hype up what needs hyping I guess. I personally chose MS and the power of the XBOX 360 as I prefer the more adult titles, I'm not a kid and the Wii is more set up for that and ps3 will certainly go there to some greater extent. All systems probably will but MS and the X will have more games that I like and want like for EX. "gears of war" "halo 3" "Huxley" "saints row" too human" "nnn3" "lost planet" "just cause" "and whatever fantstic new MMO's that are coming our way" This is my taste, and with many comes changing and coming over to our system like DMC4 and several others we know of then to me it's the only clear choice. If you like and believe killzone 2 will actually be produced for the ps3 then go for it, If mario or zelda is what gets you going then go for the Wii and have fun. All systems will also come out with new character gaming that is exclusive to them so it's not going to be more of the same ole same ole, it's going to be a good few years with much new and untried concepts. Lets have some fun. Me, I'm about to go online with Xbox Live and play GRAW, see ya all:)
Ive got my DVD player.
My 360 is for games only.
And when i get a ps3 i will only use it for games and online action just like my 360.
and the Wii is for super mario are mario kart even red steal.