It’s ‘Up To Sony’ If Tekken 7 Has PS4/Xbox One Cross-Play

Bandai Namco is unsure if Tekken 7 will have cross-play between PS4 and Xbox One gamers. The developers are leaving that decision to Sony.

[IRetrouk]

Ps players or xbox, make no diff, still gonna smash this game to absolute pieces.

[Eonjay]

Damn right! Yall better hope Sony says no lol... them Xbox boys (God bless em), don't know... lol they don't know. Played 10k matches on Tekken Tag Tournament 2... and lets be fair to them the 360 D-Pad was horrendous, so even if you were good, you really needed a pad else you're fight against your opponent and the controller.

The only thing Xbox has that I want is TTT:2 on BC. They have no idea how lucky they are.

[LexHazard79]

Lol...probably lost 9k matches.

[Gazondaily]

So Sony are the ones taking the mick here. What's taking them so long to say yes?

Microsoft's online infrastructure is FAR superior to theirs so it should be a no brainier for Sony to allow it.

If Sony are 'For the Players' they would allow this. I wonder what excuse they'll have if they dont?

[Eonjay]

@Septic

I assume that the company that has amassed the fastest cloud infrastructure is also the superior one...
For Sony's part, I think they are apprehensive about cross network play for several reasons (security, maintenance... ) For the players has nothing to do with being friendly with Xbox Live... I would like them to do it because I am confident we can murder the other team online. its not even a question. If Bandai is hosting the servers jointly, and can competently manage connections, I am all for it. I just want it to work.

[IRetrouk]

Septic sony have no need to do this at all, im all for it but its not this massive deal thats going to effect my online interactions, for the players means for the gamers on sonys devices nobody elses, i know you like to blow everything out of proportion but there really is no need, it would be cool if they said yes after mentioning it last gen but if they dont its not really a big deal.

[gamer7804]

Why would you not want a bigger pool of players to prolong the games life is beyond me...

[Ginpachi-sama]

Wow sceptic aint the brightest tool in the shed

[Deep-throat]

Just make it like SFV. PC vs PS4.

PC players with better hardware will have the upper hand as usual: 5(or less)ms monitors, better IQ.

Edit:
IQ = Image Quality

[PurpHerbison]

Doesn't necessarily work that way in fighting games but sure. I mean, sure, you want the best specs but what is that to all the Tekken veterans that have been playing on console or arcades for YEARS? Most PC players might be in for a very rude awakening.

[Movefasta1993]

A rude awakening?You do realize that there are a lot of new pc gamers that built pcs at the start of this console generation right?Most of sales that comes tekken 7 steam will be from old school tekken players ,not people trying tekken for the first time.

[Destiny1080]

the difference between people with the best set up and the people with an average set up is not a lot different,

30 fps updates every 33 ms, 60fps is every 16.7ms

your monitor lag being 5ms and someone else's being 33 ms the difference is one sixth of a second

races have been won and lost by ms but I'm guessing a better player will kick your azz 99% of the time regardless of one or two sixth of a second advantage

anticipation/situational awareness/knowing your enemy and surroundings, knowing all the moves and combos/ your reaction time, these and many more will give you a real advantage

[Lordani66]

But you know that T7 will be 60 fps on PS4 too? Just asking.

[PurpHerbison]

Well, it is a fighting game so regardless where you play it, it should be locked 60. Unless you play on a terrible PC that can't meet that. I feel really bad for anyone that would have to play Tekken7 at 30FPS, it is just something you don't do with fighting games. In that scenario the person with 60FPS would absolutely destroy the person on 30FPS. You may be able to get away with such huge FPS differences in other genres but fighting games need to be locked 60 for both players or else you are going to have a terrible time. The only realistic issue that I could see coming to light is PC having less input delay. Almost every fighting game released on PC has less input delay for some reason. But yes, it is still going to come down to skill in that scenario anyway. SFV is the greatest example as PS4 version has 8F delay and PC version without vsync has 4F delay. This doesn't stop PS4 players from destroying the PC players.

[thatguyhayat]

What the? Whats hardware got to do with it? Its about skill not hardware

[Str8Chaos74]

This^

[Lordani66]

Higher IQ? Last time I checked PC players have their BMI higher than their IQ, living in their mom's basements, not being able to afford themselves, or to even get a job at MCDonald's, yet console players tend to become IT engineers who later spread their love for video games by creating the best AAA console games that PC mustard pleb begs them for. The only thing pc gay-mers create are crappy minecraft mods, and eye-hurting ENB mods that used to do some good back in the day, but now look like TV settings with saturation lowered to almost 0 and extremely high sharpness, sometimes crappy instagram filter slapped to it too. Yeah, pure geniuses are those pc players

Yours truly,
PC & Console gamer since almost his birth, IT Engineer in real time graphics, raster graphics, 3D moddeling and animations, also a guy with IQ probably higher than you and your whole family put together :).

[Deep-throat]

Typical console gamer, resorting to "PC gamers live in their mom's basements" blather.

IQ = Image Quality, Mr. PC Gamer Since Birth.

[Lordani66]

Doesn't matter, because it's still BS:

https://suckmyjoystick.blog...

(Use translate on the right handside menu, first option)
Higher quality visuals? Teeheehee, most pc players play on crappy 21" TN monitors, while even the cheapest HDTV on which console players game, gives better quality spectrum than those monitors, don't even make me go to comparing IPS vs mid-end HDTV. And developers literally don't do anything for PC versions of their multiplatform games, so that's why Ultra/Very High setting on PC look like PS4 versions, sometimes in open world games you see better quality shadows on PC, maybe slightly better textures (not talkig about special 4K textures packs), HDAO vs HBAO, and that's it - for proofs just visit the link above, or this one too: https://suckmyjoystick.blog...

"resorting to "PC gamers live in their mom's basements" blather"

But it's a fact. Enourmous percentage of PC players that create high end PC builds, that are not IT workers live with their parents, that's why they have so much time for playing with their PCs. Typical console only gamer is just a regular guy that sometimes loves videogames more than he should, but also has his own life, that's why he can get a job, unlike a pc gamer which every day have to worry about dx libraries, drivers for hist hardware, lacking .dll files in WINDOWS directory, C++ redistibutables, crappy download times on both Steam (ESPECIALLY!) and Origin, defragmentation of his HDD, unstable Windows after few monts of a clean installation, literally thousands of background running apps and services, swapping 6 DVDs (because blu ray in PC world is still uncommon), while console gamer just puts his disk into his console, and plays. That's it.

[PurpHerbison]

I get what you are trying to say but you came off as a complete asshole blowing on your own flute.

[Lordani66]

Because I am an asshole, I am very harsh and sincere.

[TheVigilanteCode]

It's great that Tekken is finally coming to PC. It should as it's a 3rd party title after all. I'd get it day one.

First off, talking about display lag of a panel being an upper hand for the PC version is laughable because a console player can use that VERY SAME display panel with his games and assuming EVERY PC player (to be accurate, "EVERY PC TEKKEN 7 PLAYER") is gonna play on a display panel with less than 5 MS of display lag is even more ludicrous, even for an assumption.

Fighting games, in general are a console genre (and moderately Arcade in specific territories), no two ways about it. Just like MOBA's or Arena FPS' like Quake or Unreal are PC mainstays, even though they have appeared on consoles in the past. Fighters are THE MOST highest competitive form of e-sport in videogames, ever, period. Even the mighty Arena shooters of the 90's/00's, Quake & Unreal come in a distant second place in terms of skill ceiling in a competitive videogame, when they are directly compared with fighting games. Let alone other games that are highly competitive like Starcraft etc. Modern "e-sport" oriented titles which bring in big numbers in both view count and prize pools, like DOTA2/CSGO/LOL etc don't even come close to the skill level of fighting games, so much that it isn't even funny.

This is nothing to brag about consoles being superior or some of that reddit PCMR superiority crap. It's just that consoles are the home of fighting games, hardcore action games with the highest skill involved (Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta etc), ARPG's, JRPG's etc. All of these genre's move around 10:1 sales lifetime when compared to PC's, that it's actually embarrassing to even compare a PC to a console - with Dark Souls being the only exception, from the list of genre I mentioned. Developers obviously would write/develop the console versions as the definitive versions of their games and put maximum effort into them being perfect from an input lag standpoint for fighting games (or arcade perfect if it's an arcade port, like Tekken 7 here is), barring IQ which PC will always get better than a console (at least in most cases).

But for longevity, the PC fighting game players will ALWAYS be at the mercy of the console pool of players, which last almost a decade, with crossplay. The more developers opt-in crossplay with PC/PS4 or PC/Xbox One, the better ONLY for the PC community, who are the tiniest of a fringe minority in fighting games. It's an upcoming genre which is starting to take off on PC's, specifically post 2011/2012, and fortunately with the new consoles released around a year later and both SONY and Microsoft not minding it, the PC population don't have a problem finding games, in games with crossplay enabled. The games would have died online within 2 weeks (or a month tops), if they weren't crossplay.

The upper hand, in fighting games have ALWAYS been on consoles, and WILL stay that way as long as the traditional console cycle continues to exist. Nothing wrong or to feel "inferior" about this fact or be defensive of the PC. The vast majority of the console players are all good mannered people who don't care who they are playing against, barring a few bad apples (the likes which we call "CoD" kids) which we can find on a daily basis if we could boot up a game of DOTA 2 or CSGO with the same level of maturity. They exist on all platforms.

All this is coming from a PC player who has never owned a console before, aside from an NES (but everyone had one of those ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).

Hope we could spar online in a FT10 set when the game launches. Cheers :)

[onisama]

the down vote on ur comment show how dumb u sound

[DigitalRaptor]

I suppose an article such as this is going to be written every time a publisher replies to this question on Twitter. Regardless of whether or not it's true, it's clearly going to be made out like that publisher already had plans in process for cross-play and are being stopped. The headline doesn't represent exactly what was said in context, but that's how it was reported. The truth is that most of these publishers are not even thinking about cross-play on consoles.

It might happen one day, but as of now it doesn't bother me in the slightest, with the amount of players available on any given game on any given day. I don't know how anyone could find a reason why a lack of cross-play would irk them, unless they are looking for a specific angle of attack.

[Hoffmann]

Well said. But hey..clicks clicks clicks...

I played TTT2 yesterday on PS3, even after 4 years it still has enough players it seems. Had to wait only 1-2 minutes for new opponents and it was not much better years ago due to how the netcode of that game is working.

I mean..that's damn cool.

edit: Damn..even Tekken 6 still has players? wow.

[PurpHerbison]

Dude I played Tekken6 online a couple weeks ago and was able to find lobbies. Netcode is absolutely trash in Tekken6 but I was still surprised people were playing.

[freshslicepizza]

The more pressure put on Sony the better, until they finally address what is really going on. Of course when you have supporters who defend them about any decisions including EA Access and it's no wonder they are not going to do what some fans want. Amazing how when it was with pc it is nice perk but with Xbox once again some people love the segregation between the two. I guess console wars is still important to some

[gamerswin24]

If at this point you dont know whats going on lol your oblivious. You should have asked Microsoft what was going on last gen when Sony went ahead and added PC players to cross play and Microsoft didnt even want to do that lol. All these companies are playing chess and since Microsft is getting thrashed they want to include everyhting, including th ekitchen sink lol but last gen when they were doing fine selling hardware they wouldnt budge lol.

[Liqu1d]

It's also amazing how you lot didn't want this last gen but now you do.

[freshslicepizza]

Please quote me where I said I didn't want this last generation. You guys keep moving the goal posts. Microsoft didn't want to before, they did try it early on with games like shadowrun but gavee up. They were criticized then and people kept saying how open Sony was. Not once did Sony ever want to play with competing consoles though, even Nintendo tried with pure chess but Sony skirted around it just like they are doing now. But again you guys think Sony can't do anything wrong.

[ThatGuyDart]

@Moldybread

The honest truth is that most PS fans like myself just couldn't care less about this feature. So when you say things like "more pressure put on Sony the better" it really falls on deaf ears. Why should I constantly nag Sony for something I don't really care about? Why is that? Because you care about? Because Xbox fans care about it? If so then wrangle up all your Xbox buddies and let Sony hear your voices, stop asking PS fans to do something that YOU should be doing.

[Gazondaily]

Well we've seen how the hardcore contingent will make any excuses. Denying EA Access and also this, if that indeed is the case, people making excuses on their behalf truly are pathetic.

Sony need to be pressurised.

[IRetrouk]

Again septic, why do sony need to allow this? How is it in any way relatable to ea access? Its a service, allowing xbox players a bigger pool of online players does nothing for them at all, whos honestly asking for this? Its not playstation fans thats for sure.

[DigitalRaptor]

What is really going on? You want a deeper explanation, that is staring you in the face, lol.

Let's ask this for a second though. It's a separate topic, but why does Microsoft charge Xbox players to play online but they don't make PC players pay for the same privilege on their games via W10 store, despite a clear convergence towards Xbox as a service? Is it going to happen where they eventually do? Where is the current pressure on Microsoft for that? Why does Microsoft put FREE-to-play games behind a paywall to this very day, whilst Sony does not? Where is the pressure on MS for that? Where is the pressure for Microsoft to stop being so sparse with their exclusive games lineup in the first 9 months of the year, because so far this year, all that Xbox has had is Quantum Break and a few indie games (some of which are incomplete early access games). And I don't for a second believe you would hold them to rights for such inconsistencies or corporate double standards. See there are so many other bigger questions out there than asking why cross-play is not a thing between competing consoles, and I don't see you rallying to find the answers.

Re: EA Access - its content is garbage value to someone like me quite frankly, but I wouldn't say no to it being offered to others on PSN. And I never, said I would be against cross-play on consoles. Playing against other people on other platforms is a nice perk.... and it's just that. Not something that should be questioned as though a company is committing a crime against consumers by not speaking up on. It's not even an inconvenience.

"But again you guys think Sony can't do anything wrong."

Time and time again, this has been disproven as you continue to put words in other peoples' mouths, but in this instance what is Sony in the wrong for? They have no obligation to do anything, and your responses here are basically the modus operandi of someone who has an agenda to paint a company in the wrong, that has actually done nothing wrong.
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@ Septic

IRetrouk already asked this but again, your whole "Sony needs to be pressurised" sounds like a vendetta of past events that, in all honesty, you've skewed based on what you read from a small number of people on the Internet.

[donthate]

Well, technically it is anti-consumer behavior by Sony, so even if it doesn't affect you directly, it might be good to voice your opinion. Cross play only benefits gamers, because it offers choice and less lock-in.

[IRetrouk]

Anti consumer to who??? Xbox only players? As in people who are not consumers of sonys products? How does that compute mate? The only upside to this would be third party, which sell better on the ps4....which means a higher player count...so why would sony need to do it? Simple they dont. It would be cool but its just not important to be honest.

[rainslacker]

I think you need to look up the definition of anti-consumer.

Anti-consumer is things like price fixing, or trying to control the only outlet for consumers to exercise their free trade rights or place heavy restrictions on them....such as MS original used game plan. And before you mention it to try and make MS look good, I, and to some extent the EU, feel that current digital storefronts and the way they handle content purchases to be pretty anti-consumer, but people accept it for what it is, so more power to them.

Not offering the ability to play with players on another console just means they aren't offering a service. If they offered that service, and marketed it as a selling point of the console, then took it away, then that's anti-consumer, but as it stands now, it's about akin to the PS4 not offering a Pandora app.

[gamer7804]

You dont know anything about game development if you think developers don't want to get the largest amount of people playing together. It increases their products value with little extra work

[IRetrouk]

Im hoping they say yes, but im not going to pretend its a big deal when its not really.

[rainslacker]

One comment on the twitter said it wasn't on the PS fans to ask Sony about it, because Sony said the developers, and I guess other console makers, to approach them about it. Guy seemed to want to know if the developer had asked Sony about it, and what their response was, which seemed fair enough, because then at least when we ask Sony, we know if we should request politely, or sternly demand, that they enable the feature because it's something beneficial for the users.

But yeah, the headline doesn't really represent the context, and tends to imply that the dev wants it, when no such mention was made even between PC and other consoles.

[Yetter]

"The truth is that most of these publishers are not even thinking about cross-play on consoles"

for any game that has a strong multiplayer component, you better believe publishers are thinking about cross-play. A low player base is a death sentence for these types of games

[PurpHerbison]

I hope this happens. Crossplay is always a good thing cause it keeps the online community all in one spot. One of the worst things is when communities get split up. In a genre like fighting games it can really suck cause most either don't play or quit cause players are too good.

[rainslacker]

While I agree with you, I don't really have a hard time finding matches for good fighting games on the PS4 or even the PS3. Haven't tried on the Xbox or PC so can't speak for them. I don't play online that often though, but I do go back and visit some older fighting games from time to time.

[PurpHerbison]

Yeah it isn't very hard to find matches but at the same time, the fighting games I have played recently support crossplay of some sort. Whether it is SFV being PS4/PC or Guilty Gear Revelator being PS4/PS3. Crossplay is a great thing.

[nowitzki2004]

Sony has more to lose than to gain from X1/PS4 crossplay. Wont happen, they will keep it PC/PS4 crossplay.

[freshslicepizza]

4theplayers right?

[King_Lothric]

For the players on Playstation!

Sony is not at fault if MS does not have a big user base. Sony is here to attend Playstation players and not Xbox players.

[q8kik]

Games being more popular on a certain platform over the other is a legit reason why many people might choose the more popular platform.
If the situation was reversed then you would have seen Sony trying to enable cross-platform multiplayer in every game they can to try to hide the fact that their platform is not as popular as the other. ESPECIALLY in a fighting game where it is essential to have players around you for you to have a good connection.(p2p)

[rainslacker]

What exactly would they lose?

[TheCommentator]

How many times are we going to hear, "It's Sony holding things up" before we realize that Sony isn't doing this "for the players". They don't want crossplay because more people will buy an Xbox if they can still play with their friends on multiplatform titles and have the 1st party exclusives they may prefer (like me).

[lastking95]

Good point, never thought about that.

[King_Lothric]

Funny. Last gen MS was totally against cross play while Sony was already using it with PC. Now that MS has been pushed to change their policies, some fan boys believe Sony must do what Microsoft want just like that?

The Xbox is loosing in the console market. Sony is in no responsibility to help Microsoft business.

[TheCommentator]

Before you cried fanboy, you may have wanted to look at my response to Ginpachi-Sama, in which I replied objectively that both companies have ignored crossplay when they were winning the console wars. Besides that, it's not what MS or Sony wants, it's really what the developers and the gaming community want. Ask yourself, if Sony was so open to crossplay last gen, why do they now have to review crossplay on a case by case basis?

Like I said in the other post, it's all about the $$$.

[rainslacker]

Sony doesn't want people moving to PC's either, by their own admission, yet they still allow PC cross play.

Given the current state of cross play, I can't see how it would deter people from not picking up a console where their friends are if they want to play with their friends, because as it is right now, there is no way to actually control who you play with between platforms except in some of the MMO games whose "matchmaking" features work differently than most other genres of games out there. For a game like Tekken, or any other game not an MMO, it's pretty much a crap shoot who you'll be playing with on an opposing platform.

I'm going to concede maybe some games outside MMO's have features which enable such functions though, because I don't really keep up as much with the online stuff, but that has been what I've seen from the games that I know support it between PS and PC.

[PurpHerbison]

If my friends are on one console, I'm not going to buy the other. I wouldn't even get to party chat with them. What is the point? And I wouldn't be surprised if crossplay games end up like Rocket League. I can't invite my PC friends to play ranked with me on Rocket League while I am on PS4.

[ShadowKnight]

Not happening

[lastking95]

Sony better say yes, what's the negative? Be pro consumer. It's was ignorant to deny ea access this would be too.

[Goldby]

logically speaking, if you open up a game say liek rocket league to everyone to play everywhere, it takes away from the sales on that platform ie. ps4.

if three of my friends have ps4 and one has an xbox, currenlty to play together either we would all ahve to buy xbxo or one person by a ps4. with the corss it would take that out, (pro-consumer) but bad business model cuz it takes away reasosn to own a specific console

[TheCommentator]

Exactly what I'm talking about. Well said.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

Why should they? I hope they say no....
Its funny how people are saying sony has to do this. Yet last gen xbox got this offer and flat out refused it.
Funny how stuff gets sweeped under the rug huh?

[aconnellan]

Actually, I remember a lot of shade being thrown at MS because of their unwillingness to support cross play back then, but I guess it's ok to cherry pick and manufacture information to support your argument

[King_Lothric]

Sony has been doing it way before Microsoft. Why you didn't complain when Microsoft was against using cross play? So now is Sony to be blamed? Very ridiculous

[rainslacker]

I was kind of OK with EA Access at first, because....well....it's EA.

but since then, I see that EA actually wants to make it into a viable service, and it seems to be pretty good all around, and a pretty good value, so I would like to see Sony revisit the possibility....particularly since I feel their PS+ selection on PS4 is kind of lacking for bigger titles. As it is, I can't see how EAA would in any way infringe on PS+ or affect me in any way. Most people would still need PS+ to play online, and for me, I'd still subscribe to PS+, because their PS3 and Vita/PSP/PS1 offerings are still pretty good. If they dropped those offerings, I wouldn't bother with PS+ at all, since I don't see the need for me to spend money for online functionality which I don't really care that much about.

[REDDURT]

It's time sony

[Goldby]

its funny how no one said that last gen when MS was the one holding back

[freshslicepizza]

Of course they did. Go look at past articles on N4G on things like Final Fantasy. People said back then Sony was more open so why now become regressive? But I guess that's OK now that Sony has the market share and fans support any thing they do

Not once has Sony ever said they would allow cross play with other consoles. They wouldn't even support it for Pure Chess but Nintendo wanted to years ago. Go look up the facts and see for yourself. Now the people at Sony just dance around it saying they have always supported it but in reality it was withe the ps3 and ps4 and pc, never competing consoles. So much for the players

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Stop making it sound like Sony is now new at this when MS was the one that denied cross-play.
Sony been cross-play since PS2 days, now MS joining cross-play with Rocket League and now you gonna have nerve to say that? LOL! i needed 2 laugh at something, and this is it. Thanks 4 that!

[Immorals]

Final Fantasy was cross play on the Xbox 360

[MoveTheGlow]

And it's up to Bandai Namco to give us a freaking release date...

[Lordani66]

Why would they (Sony) do it? Just like with every game thre will be few times more players on PS4 than Xbox One, so Xbox players wil gain the probability that they won't be waiting in matchmaking lobby, while PS4 players have literally nothing to gain from this... Not seeing it happening.

[blackblades]

Didn't sony said they already up for it and basically it's all up to ms.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

Yeh all last gen... and yet ms refused it.

So sony should tell ms to suck a d*ck and not do it

[rainslacker]

The official line is they're open to the possibility, but never confirmed they would actually do it. Their stipulation was that it would be a case by case basis, and the devs or other hardware makers would have to approach them about it. That's pretty much been their statement since this first became a thing, then it died down, now it's becoming a thing again because of people asking for it after the Rocket League dev decided to make mention of it. People weren't upset with Sony about it until MS decided to "put the ball in Sony's court" though, because before that, Sony has allowed it between PS and PC since the PS2.....so the Sony criticism over it is pretty new.

For me personally, I think Sony is probably delaying, after thinking maybe they may be looking into it but people were impatient, but an article a week or two ago made me think that maybe Sony doesn't want it between actual console hardware....but I still think it's possible that there could be something going on in the background, because MS has remained pretty silent on the issue as well, and it's really just individual devs making comments about who's to blame for the wait.

[Circuitburnout]

Gonna wreck so many people in this game, I cannot wait!

[TXIDarkAvenger]

So probably not going to happen.

[S-Word]

If Sony isn't up for it then it just means more sales for PC & Xbox. Nobody is going to want to buy a version that doesn't have cross-play.

[King_Lothric]

Can you provide some facts and evidence to support your comment? Last time I checked, Sony was still dominating in both hardware and software sales.

[q8kik]

That would true for the games that are equally popular on all platforms, and that's....really not the case with Tekken. If the sales of the previous games are any indicator then the online players on PS would be double if not triple the combined count of PC/Xbox players. Even though this is the first Tekken game on PC, i can safely say that it won't sell. Just like Guilty Gear Xrd and MKX.

[Majin-vegeta]

PS is the home of tekken kid.....lol

[rainslacker]

Serious question....when has cross play ever been a system selling feature? It can be a good game selling feature, but never once have I ever really seen it promoted as something that sells systems. Not from Sony, not MS, not Steam/PC.

Games that have it seem to get some good will, and people play the game on the system they own. The games that don't have cross play get brought on the system people own. Beyond that....people just buy the game to play it, not to play it with people on different systems, because who gives a rats a** where those other players play?

Never once before MS decided to "put the ball in Sony's court" have I ever once heard anyone, ever, say that they buy a system for cross play, much less they wouldn't buy a system that doesn't allow it.

In any case, Sony still allows cross play with PC, and their sales seem to be doing fine, and MS own sales have remained consistent both before and after they decided to allow cross play, after many years not allowing it. So I can find absolutely no corollary evidence that what you say is true at all, because it sounds like the only thing that's changes is that MS now has cross play with PC, and everything else is as it was before.

[S-Word]

This is just proof that Sony fanboys will defend anything. I'll take the version of the game that has better features.

[q8kik]

Again, the PS4 version will have more players online 100% guaranteed. So it really doesn't matter for ps4 players if the Xbox has this "feature" or not. They'll still have faster matchmaking AND the vets of the series to play against. I'll take these features instead.

[PaleMoonDeath]

I'd happily beat up Xbox players, DO IT!

[kevinsheeks]

lol at users getting disagrees for saying they'd like cross-platform play lmao are these really

[gamertk421]

More people are realizing this would be a business decision instead of Good Guy Sony doing it for the gamers.

[King_Lothric]

Sony will attend Playstation players. They don't need to help a community that chose to buy another product. This is just common sense.

[SuperbVillain]

im playing tekken4 and 5 on emulators right now :)

[King_Lothric]

Why would Sony be responsible to help Microsoft business? Sonys job is to care about the PlayStation community. Microsoft was totally against this for years while Sony was already doing it since the PS2.

Sony does need to help Microsoft. Is your bad MS for denying this to your community for so many years.

This is funny, Xbox enthusiasts begging Sony to help populate their matchmaking sessions. If you are not happy with your Xbox, you should buy a Playstation instead of asking Sony to help Microsoft.

[rainslacker]

It'd be more about helping the developers business, and providing a service which is beneficial to the actual players of the games. Console wars be damned IMO, but cross play is not a bad thing.

I personally don't see how it's harmful for Sony to allow it, nor do I see that it'd be something that is harmful to their system sales....at least in the current state of cross play that does exist between PC and consoles. If anything, it just gives the players more players to play against, and isn't something that would be applicable to all kinds of games.

[slavish0]

This would be a "pro developer move". This would keep games alive longer. Regardless of platform its adding people. It should be about the game not the plastic that runs it.

[Tobsesan]

So who is 4theplayers?

[Kingoftherodeo]

once again sony will make the decision for their consumers. not in the best interest for their players

[Deagle]

I feel like If Sony never agrees to do this and all future Xbox One games get PC/Xbox One cross play that could maybe sway some people to get the PC or Xbox One version due to the then most likely larger online community on that side as it'll combine the pc and X1 install base of that game. And if a game has a larger online community on 1 side it'll be more active as years go by compared to the side that has the smaller online install base. So Sony not accepting could turn out to be good for MS.

[2cents]

Sony, C'mon... aren't you, For the Players?

Make it so.

[mark3214uk]

isn't it time now we had a lot of cross play games like COD ect it is 2016 now it is time to bring the community's together

[j15reed]

I don't recall see that many developers last gen saying cross play between consoles is ready just waiting on Microsoft to give the go ahead. Can somebody please run me down some facts, because all I see is MS didn't want to do it last gen but PSO had cross play FFXI and was it shadowrun?