Phil writes, "Sony hasn't let go of the idea of making the Killzone franchise its Halo for the PlayStation brand. While the games don't nearly have the same level of fandom as Microsoft's illustrious FPS franchise, the games sell well enough to have Sony keep trying. While I haven't really found a lot of the past Killzone games to be much to make note of, I did very much enjoy Killzone: Mercenary on the PlayStation Vita enough to call it one of my favorite FPS games I've ever played.
Thus, after my high on Killzone: Mercenary, I was open to playing the latest game in the series, the PlayStation 4 launch title, Killzone: Shadow Fall. With an engaging single player, a robust online and offline multiplayer offering, and a story that treks into new territory for the series, I ended up enjoying what I played of Guerrilla Games's latest."
It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.
Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.
lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.
They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.
I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.
@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”
Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.
“Sadly”?
The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.
True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.
And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.
I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.
Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.
Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.
To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.
And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.
I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.
Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.
I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.
I would love another killzone in the same spirit as KZ2 with the focus on physic, destruction and attention to detail. But logically I know they're not dropping Horizon anytime soon
I want a third game (I really love this series except for the non stop talking from Aloy) then they can do whatever they like.
Overall, I love the series as well. Agreed, Aloy needed to stuff a sock in it. And the writing could have been better. Hated the fact she was so condescending towards the male characters... and of course, several were wrongfully scripted as dolts.
You forgot Resistance as well another great dormant ip that is hibernating. Out of the two I like Killzone but I love Resistance.
Oh yes that definitely needs to be brought back. Honestly I think getting a remake of the first game even would be pretty awesome
Killzone 1 was mediocre.
Killzone 2 was clunky but fun enough.
Killzone 3 was less clunkier and funner than 2. The best in the series for sure. Which is not saying much, but still.
Killzone: Mediocre Fall was a lolfest of wasted potential and absolute mediocrity.
At least the Horizon series is...fine. Lacking, but fine...Yay?
As a primary Playstation user I would've gladly given up Mehzone for Halo. Even Halo Infinite is better than all Killzone games combined. Which is just sad.
C'est la vie.
Killzone played very different to halo, I mean they are fps games but very different all the same.e
I love both series and would love a new killzone & halo!!
For me the feel of the gunplay wasn't the issue, I actually enjoy the heaviness of it, but the game and level design. It was a one note, linear, and mostly boring affair. All around an extremely mediocre FPS. Ever played the game BLACK? Cuz that game was more Killzone than Killzone itself.
When it comes to Shadow Fall, it showed the direction the franchise could've gone and the possibilities but instead it proceeded to fall flat on it's face.
Like I said, Killzone was mediocre since the first one and while I doubt they'll get back to the series, if they do, they have a lot of catching up to do in the game and level design department.
If you ask me Killzone should look at Black and Red Faction for the destruction department and then look at Halo, especially Reach/ODST, for the grandiosity of it all. Or maybe even like a Road trip type game like Metro Exodus with big Open Areas to explore and some of that Cinematic Linear areas in order to appease Sony. there are plenty of great example out there is all I'm saying.
They can keep the heaviness and grounded gameplay intact, but the rest need a comprehensive reboot no doubt.
Black was awesome, as was red faction!!!
It's an absolute crying shame that proper destruction in games digressed rather than processed.
I remember mercenaries which also let you blow up whole buildings which was fricking sickkkkkk!
But yea killzone series wasn't perfect and each to there own but I still love that franchise would love to see it return.
Killzone 3 nearly killed the franchise with it being CODified so to speak. Killzone 2 multiplayer was a completely original multiplayer experience that wasnt found in any other other fps at the time. The Warzone mode was a bit of team fortress and battlefield and was best thing to come out at the time....nowadays if you mention Warzone people just think of COD's Battle royale....ugh....
CODified or not, Killzone 3 still played better than the lagfest that was 2. Which made it an easier and funner time to get through. Again, not saying much, but it is what it is.
As for the multiplayer, I didn't played much of it and couldn't care less to be honest. Multiplayer was just a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned and the last thing they should care about.
There are plenty of games that could serve as a good template or starting point for Killzone, the devs just need to realize this.
I think killzone should make a return I loved them, yeh shadowfall was meh but hey maybe a return means Sony can actually make a trailer that is actual gameplay this time lol
I've been asking for a killzone 2 remaster for years and years and years....nothing crazy like a remake...just a simple remaster.....Same with the resistance franchise....socom..... :(
SOCOM got so screwed with the PSN outage right on release. Granted, SOCOM 4 was still a step down for the series either way but the memories from SOCOM 2 are still so good. I actually got some SOCOM vibes from Factions so I hope that game ends up coming out
KZ2 and KZ3 were really good games, especially, the MP part. The MP part was unique and different, people complained about the heavy movement/weight of guns, and started to compare the game to COD.
Shadowfall, in my opinion, is the worst entry in the series. It went away with what made KZ2 and KZ3 enjoyable and unique. Nonetheless, from Sales perspective, Shadowfall sold more copies because the game was a console launch game.
I hope Sony gets a new entry in series, if not, at least a remake of KZ2.
Apparently supermassive were contracted to make killzone VR for the original psvr however Sony was unhappy with the progress so they took it back in house and it's allegedly being worked on for psVR2.
I really hope it's true as both the franchise and the psvr deserve a high profile release
In addition since cod is now firmly a Microsoft property I can see Sony go back to forming a full blown fps game again to compete Bungie would be an excellent studio for a new offline shooter if they ever get off live service island
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I would love to see it return, but if it isn't a new game, I'm not interested.
Killzone 2 MP was sensational, 3 was great too, shame Shadowfall was a disappointment. Would love to see a return but don't think it'll ever happen, same with Resistance.
The respective studios are (as far as we know) working on Horizon MP and Wolverine.
I'd like a Battlefield inspired Killzone MP game, with dropships and Mechs to boot.
Killzone has always launched with cutting edge graphics, so i'm sure the next will be a showcase.
I feel like once Guerilla realized that the vast majority of people sympathized with the helghast, and the helghast being a very on the nose particular collection of real world references, that realization scared them from ever wanting to pick it up again. Killzone 3 really came off as a deliberate attempt to get people to dislike the helghast with far less nuanced written characters seen in 2. Instead replaced with cartoonish villains. Despite even that people still liked the helghast over the ISA.
I really don't care for FPS games, but I really enjoyed KZ2's multiplayer (campaign was fun too, but the multiplayer was just good, mad fun).
I would say they might want to try to get Bluepoint to remake KZ2 OR let Bungie develop a live service KZ. Why not do some kind of Destiny x KZ collaboration that balances both universes? Could be interesting.
At the very least a remastered collection along side Resistance and the InFamous. It's just strange how they want to forget about or not even acknowledge at all at times about PS2 and 3 Gen games.
Man I fucking loved Killzone, but they really dropped the ball with the story tbh. Still, I definitely wouldn't mind a revival.
I think Sony should hand this over to bungie and say you remember Halo? Do that again with killzone.
I want them to bring this series back so bad, but with the multiplayer style of KZ2. That was so much fun, and I tend to hate FPS. Shadow Fall had an interesting ending though. I'm sure I'm one of the few that actually liked the game.... I also want M.A.G. to come back too lol
It'll be great for Sony to convince their studios to bring back Killzone & the Resistance games. Infamous should make a return as well.
Killzone was a fantastic series. Loved the campaigns, and the mp for 2 & 3 were fantastic! Loved the weighty feel of the guns. Shadowfall deserved more credit than it got. That said, they changed up the mp entirely and it never really hooked me.
Guerilla needs to rebirth the Killzone universe... or have they already?!
Anyone else think there is a connection to the Horizon universe? Didn't an "ark" or two leave earth to escape pre-Zero Dawn? Anyone recall Killzone's brief origin story?
It'd be pretty sweet if Guerilla story-merged these two ips.
If they put some care and thought into a gritty, dark campaign that's well written with an improved version KZ2 multiplayer would be a massive hit. KillZone V for the PS5 could be a monster but we can only imagine now.
The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.
Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.
Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!
I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.
man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!
32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III
One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.
https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...
So not a drop off.
Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?
It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.
lol you are comparing:
HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)
HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)
We will see if it surpass original number.
@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years
Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself
Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.
I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.
Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.
The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.
They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.
I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.
Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.
Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.
It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.
Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.
I would guess they will at some point toward the end or beginning of next gen. Sony has expanded their studios to have multiple teams.
They know new IP needs to be added after a 2-3 games in a series and can have one team work on sequels and another on a new IP.
But new IPs are risky and I’m sure some don’t make it to release as they shouldn’t of they aren’t good instead of saying F it we are releasing it anyway. Sometimes games just don’t work out.
But Sony had the best track record with new Ip even their worst new IP last however long was a really good game , Days Gone it just had some bugs in the beginning
Days gone is one of my favourite games of last gen. Shame it won't continue. I think it was politically driven to cancel a sequel. I've noticed most of Sony 1st party going the route of political correctness so I think the shade of the white gruff male protagonist hit them hard.
Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.
I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.
Hold up
Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million
With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers
I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again
While i love horizon way more than breath of the wild(wasn't for me) if they counted dollars made the gap would be way bigger as Horizon base was 9.99 and Complete edition was 19.99 on sale as soon as 2018.
I think Breath of the wild was maybe 40-50 at some points for a short period.
i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.
In August, online servers for several PlayStation games will shut down, leaving their multiplayer functions unplayable.
whrere on earth is the next killzone, im soooOOO thirsty for some proper weighted, (but still fast when running/sprinting) fps gamplay, it felt sooso so good on ps3, with that, lets be honest, very small, quite uncomfortable sixaxis dualshock controller, that was just too small for western sized hands, ok for japanese kids i suppose was the point>??
now with PS5 controller, it would be totally masterfull.
I hear you. I want some NEW Killzone, especially on PS5, with the PS5 DualSense controller with that ever so impressive DualSense of an experience Haptic feedback!
Knowing how far Guerrilla has come since Horizon: Zero Dawn, Killzone can only benefit greatly from their ever growing talent!!
I think Sony has given up on their exclusive shooters. They haven't released a remaster for the Resistance series or a new SOCOM game either. I don't think Guerilla is in a rush to make Killzone since they have Horizon now too :(.
All I want is for them to build Killzone 2 with multiplayer included from the ground up, keep the gameplay the same, and I'll be happy.
GG with KZ3 and Shafowfall haven't been able to match KZ2 so I don't really have faith in another sequel.
Unfortunate that KZ2 came out during COD era where every game that didn't pay like Modern Warfare was deemed garbage. KZ2's multiplayer is definitely an all time great.
I'd love KZ2 multiplayer again. I also think they could easily incorporate a mode to compete with Battlefield style game modes
KZ2 was one of maybe a handful of games I actually put time into online. What a blast!! And the campaign was excellent as well. I certainly miss that dark world. Still ashamed I never buttoned up that Platinum.
A remake of Killzone 2 with the same grittiness and feel on PS5 would be f*cking incredible. The SP and MP were just perfect. I played the sh*t out of that game. Would happily pay a lot of money for that.
Honestly, I don't like FPS games. They're not for me, but I do agree that there was something about KZ2 multiplayer that even someone like me enjoyed.
Sony really needs to get better about tearing down servers. I don't like that they shut them down.
@Michiel1989
"since when was kz2 deemed garbage?"
As with anything, things don't get the appreciation it deserves until way after it's release.
KZ2 got a lot of flak for it's weighty controls that many mistook for input lag. People didn't like that it wasn't a twitch shooter like CoD. You also had people saying things like "it feels like you're controlling a midget", "enemies take too long to die" (you can't pray and spray in kz2. You have to shoot in bursts for your shots to be more accurate), people complained about the sniping, etc.
This led to a lot of changes in KZ3 that turned the vets off like reducing the amount of variables for bullet damage, getting rid of spawn grenades, etc.
@DarXyde
I don't think there's much Sony or any other company in that position can do much different about it... Keeping servers running simply cost money, these gomes don't generate none anymore, so eventually they need to pull the plug.
KZ2 was definitely better then KZ3, but the third one still had strong suits. It’s been many years but I remember something about Shadow Fall being made by a team at GG that did NOT do KZ2 and KZ3 multiplayer which is why it felt different. I remember when I found that out it made a lot of sense about Shadow Falls multiplayer feeling so off.
Horizon zero dawn sold more copies than all of the killzone franchise combined including spin offs on handheld. I guess that's the reason why won't see killzone from guerilla soon. There is at least one more mainline horizon coming out and their second team is working on horizon VR I believe. So it's gonna be a while unless another studio takes over.
I've been playing a lot of Killzone 2 on rpcs3 with a duelsense combined with the ability to remap controls to a modern standard and bump the game to 60fps it shows that we really need a remaster to probably the best killzone game to date although shadowfall technically beats it in the graphics department art style was so different that they are incomparable
Killzone went to the same place as Socom and Mag, more money in 25 hour single player games with no servers to maintain. Socom was literally the reason I bought a PS2, Resistance FOM the reason I bought a PS3, all gone now.
Killzone has never been weighted correctly, the jumping never worked.
A new properly-weighted shooter in the Killzone series would be great. More like Killzone 1 and 2 than SF.
I think the issue comes from the fact that the Helghast side is sympathetic while looking like Nazi stormtroopers. The Trump age has led artists to avoid this look entirely.
The sixaxis felt fine in my hands since they're small, but the ps5 really made me feel the difference. So ergonomic.
Killzone 2 was/is so good and it still looks good today. The multiplayer was fun as well. If they make a new Killzone I hope it is the style of Killzone 2.
I wish Sony didn’t abandon Resistance and Killzone. Those are some of my favorite series on PlayStation. If they’re not gonna make anymore, then maybe a remastered collection of each could be negotiated.
KILLZONE 2 was my reason for buying a PS3. If a new KILLZONE or RESISTANCE was coming out in 22 I would try to buy a PS5 immediately.
SSOD2 would be big for Sony. The only reason they would be interested in it is if they can turn it into a live service game.
In which I can see that happening.
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After 5 killzone games including portable Sony felt it needed a break I wouldn't say its abandoned however I believe we may randomly get a ps5 remaster with improved lighting to test the waters and eventually a full blown new game after all you can't just leave shadowfall on that ending
Horizon is priority now its a mega franchise for them maybe after Horizon they might revisit.
I refuse to play for online play but there is one game that would make pay for it and that's Resistance Fall of Man. That's the only game that would make me throw my principles out of the window without feeling ashamed of myself.
Remember in the mid 2000’s when nearly every developer started to do FPS or linear third person? Now nearly every developer wants to do open world exclusively because it’s the easiest type of game to leave things out and then expand upon the world with DLC.
So many fond memories of both Shadowfall and Mercenaries Vita online! Shadowfall's SP may have been weak, but the MP was still a ton of fun. I had a lot of time in both, and it's especially tough seeing the Vita's best mp experience get shut down.
RIP my old friends.
In my opinion, I thought the single player games was really decent too and was treated quite harshly by the critics, but then, I think the Killzone franchise as a whole was kinda under rated by the critics. I always enjoyed the story in these games and I liked the slower, more deliberate gunplay too.
I remember getting my PS4 on day 1 and the first game I installed was Killzone Shadowfall, my workmates and I would play it for hours on end, the mode whish switched between game modes was brilliant.
The team stepped away and did Horizon which is fine, it's clearly a passion project they wanted to do, but it would be nice to get a new Killzone for current generation at some point. Same story for SP and Infamous, they've moved on and had success with another IP, but an Infamous on the PS5 would be incredible.
With the acquisition of Bungie you'd think Sony would have them make a proper Killzone game. Make Killzone Great Again!
There's already enough third party shooters (and now they have Destiny)... I don't imagine Sony is going to return to Killzone or Resistance. They know how profitable those franchises are (or aren't) and whether it is worth it to spend resources on them.
Resistance 3 had about 1.5 million and KSF just over 2 million. Those numbers aren't that great for AAA titles.
"and now they have Destiny"
Now? Destiny has been on Playstation since its launch in September of 2014.
Because Destiny is still multi-platform even after the Bungie acquisition and having an exclusive fps for Playstation is something entirely different.
You're just ignoring everything else? These franchises are not profitable. Horizon Zero Dawn itself sold more than all Killzone games combined.
Why do they need their own exclusive shooter? It has done nothing for them in the past. There are a crap ton of shooters already.
They did spawn Radec and that guy was a cheap arsehole.....God almighty, that boss fight!!! 😵💫
How can anyone see this, and not want another killzone game... i miss killzone 2's multiplayer so much!! https://youtu.be/IP2uC1nqwv...
I know right. I was waiting for it. Maybe they will offer the single player element now they don't have additional cost of thousands of new players jumping on the servers
That's kinda shitty considering there isn't a newer alternative, I get that many people probably aren't playing it but still. It's not that old either.
I suspect if you look, barely anyone is playing. I loved the Killzone games but honestly,I don't expect MP servers to be maintained indefinitely. Guaranteed the majority of people complaining haven't played Shadowfall for 10 years at this point.
Come on Sony. Give us a new Killzone already. We need a good new shooter for the PS5.
This was a great launch game for ps4 will make a great game re released with 4k60fps update
Very different response around these parts when MS, Ubi or EA announce something similar....
Ok. Same thing for how many years now. When PSN was free we had Warhawk, Twisted Metal, Socom, MAG, GOW ascension, Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Killzone 2,
Resistance 2, Sniper Elite V2 just off the top of my head. 60 bucks a year or more now for online play and sony only produces single player movie games now. Which is fine but wheres the likes of warhawk and mag is all im saying.
I don't know. I pay for Xbox Live and I play the same games that people do on PSN for the most part.
We do have Halo and Gears but I got bored with those two so I stick with COD.
I still haven't tried this one. At some point I'll definitely give it a good go.
I love KZ's They are my most prized Platinum Trophies!
All multiplayer maps were free in KZ:SF before other companies thought it was cool.
Also the leveling up in KZ:SF online was excellent. Instead of a point system, you level up by completing tasks like a certain amount of headshots, or upgrading certain weapons.
I also LOVE the story in KZ, I know crazy right! Stahl's message of ~"We will eventually win because we fight for ourselves, while you fight for equality" was so sinister!
Can't wait for Horizon! Guerilla is becoming a top developer and that makes me very happy!