Samsung: "Blu-ray has 5 years left"

Pocket-lint writes: "Samsung has said that it sees the Blu-ray format only lasting a further 5 years before it is replaced by another format or technology.

"I think it [Blu-ray] has 5 years left, I certainly wouldn't give it 10", Andy Griffiths, director of consumer electronics at Samsung UK told Pocket-lint in an interview."

[jack who]

lolZ

[Spread Butt Cheeks]

In 5 years you will still have bluray. You still won't have 4D, HOME, AAA hitters :(

[blackbeld]

Blu-ray is here to stay at least 10 years more. Andy Griffiths how could they take this man serious? BLU-RAY is the FUTURE.

[beoulve]

1. 4D gaming is not your cup of tea though it can be done easily. You will get hell lot confuse. We did some simulation on Geforce2 GTS when I was in college. I bet you don't even know what is 4D.

2. home beta is rolling out now, more and more ppl have home already.

3. MSG4

4. You failed. F

[zo6_lover27]

Yes, bluray will be around for 5+ years

No, the ps3 has already had games that use "4D", its simple actually.

Home is already on and in full force toward its full release.

[theKiller]

this year's end ps3 will shine like never before, and it will over shine the 360. 360 will be left in the dark shadows!!

there is nothing and absolutely nothing that 360 is better than ps3 now!!

and i dont want to hear for about king of RPG's because they r all FLOP JRPG's, and i dont want to hear about 2-3 years old games because we buy new games and max 1 year old games, but not 2 or 3 except for very few people!! people talk about what new game right now on the market not 3 years old games with ps2 graphics

[juuken]

You know what I find funny?

Sony won the format war and bluray became standard. Now you have a company like Samsung predicting the future? And 360 fanboys are seconds away from dancing on the grave of the PS3?

...Wow, just wow.

I would like to have what you're smoking and what the hell Samsung has been smoking.

[BUKKAKALYPSE]

1.5 - "this year's end ps3 will shine like never before, and it will over shine the 360. 360 will be left in the dark shadows!!" - the only thing that shines about the PS3 is it's glossy finish and it's getting hard to notice through all the dust it collects.that and SS:HD (fun game)

[beoulve]

BUKKAKALYPSE, collecting dust is much better than eating dirt.

[Kenny_Roger]

In five years , we will see Digital Distribution more common than ever

In five years , Junken turned into a street h00ker

poor droids , say goodbye to you're lovely console lol

[LuHawk]

LOL

[theKiller]

and u will be a f@g c@ck sucker in just 2 years when 360 is completely dead!

@1.7

u talk of too much fantasy, maybe MS new deals of JRPG's effected u???
ps3 collecting dust?? u cant even get one, it is not allowed for u to even touch one and u say it collect dust?? its the best blue ray player, console, gaming machine, networking hub etc!! certainly many people wouldnt agree with u, the prove it their wallets! they buy ps3 not 360!!

bots!! u r finished, the only thing left for u is to lough at sony sales compared to nintendo while u r ashamed of mentioning ur own sales hahahahhaah bots!!

bots these days becoming whiny b!atches!!!

[Spread Butt Cheeks]

I majored in computer science dip sh!t.

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[LuHawk]

Killer Shut your non killing Crybaby ass up you sound like a B!tch

[juuken]

Pretty sad that you didn't contribute to the article.

Pretty sad you had to stoop that low to insult me.

But that's okay.

I know you're jealous of the PS3, just like half of the 360 maniacs around here.

[beoulve]

Spread Butt Cheeks, nice to know you cheat your way through, cause you obviously clueless.

btw way your code will get stack overflow, you failed at computer science. F

[Spread Butt Cheeks]

explain sir how that will give a stack overflow. i return my resources jerk

[Stryfeno2]

I dont know...I'm just speechless.

[Pain]

5 years? lame....

Hard copy physical media is Never going anywhere. If it was why do people make CD still even throw they have Ump- teen ipods?

either samsung is going to push a new format with M$ in XBOX 3 like some form of flash drive or this is just FUD, ether way its bull.

and @ i'm Sic what Old xbot tard account where you? Ran out of bubbles made a new one again?..typical xbot.

[CrippleH]

This is the same Samsung that's making 2160P HDTV when most people don't even have 1080P.

I won't take what they are saying to heart.

[Genesis5]

Yeah do you think the public is going to want to change formats after only 5 years? Not likely.

[XXXCouture]

Blu-Ray have 5 years left. then DVD have 5 months :)

[badz149]

downloading mp3 files even those at 320kbps are like clicking your fingers right now but last time I checked, CD is still pretty much alive! how many years had past since napster again? now, they are claiming BD with at least 50GB capacity only have 5 years left? all I can say is just WOW! this DD propaganda is really starting to make people DUMBER day by day!

[chewy317]

then samsung has 5 months left

[Proxy]

Just look at CD's...

Which are still used all over the place.

[Dannagar]

DVD has reached a critical mass, it's not going anywhere anytime soon. Blu-Ray is almost exclusive to PS3 (which has a low attachment rate) seeing how stand alone blu-ray players don't sell well. Look at the UMD, because it's attached to the PSP which has over 37 million doesn't make the format a success for movies. I have a few Blu-Ray movies but I'm not counting on it to be around much longer. They really need to drop the price.

[Saint Sony]

Therefore Samsung might be closer to truth than PS3 fanboys.

2160p... so?, there's already cameras out that shoots up to 4K, next year RED will launch RED Epic which can achieve 5k resolution.

You think average consumers are the only ones that needs TVs with proper resolution?

[dcbronco]

Japan started the process to move to "Super" HD several years ago.

[f789790]

Plus for that new format you need a new tv. I just bought an HDTV. I want that lasting ten years minimum!

[LightningPS3]

I would agree. It's not even mainstream enough yet, and 5 years isn't much time.

Overall I would have to say that Blu ray is Sony's biggest bust, the worse part was making the Playstation brand suffer because of it.

Does Sony ever wish they could have that one back. But oh well, that's why Ken Katurgi or whatever got fired. It was just a complete bust.

[beoulve]

Hahhahahaaa coming from a guy that jumped boat to HD-DVD. Sour grape.

[Overr8ed]

the ignorance is powerful in this one. That why it has 2 bubbles

[poopsack]

"It's not even mainstream enough yet, and 5 years isn't much time."

Umm, the only people saying they have 5 years is samsung, and you. which means they have more time to take over.

[LoVeRSaMa]

Not many Bubbles now =]

LightningPS3, you almost have none :O

[silvacrest]

one bubble left :)

[Sitdown]

Bubbles for your comment.....cause your wording was hilarious!

[DTClown]

Since you don't even know about Sony's BetaMax format. Now shut up and go do your homework Johnny.

[Homicide]

I think 5 years is a good amount of time. Blu-Ray FTW!

[Ozzyb]

Yea I always feel the pinch when my game comes on one disk with (most often) more than enough space for developers to include everything they want to. Why Sony? WHYYYYYYY?

Seriously though, are you being sarcastic or just stupid?

[DaTruth]

When PS2 dropped I got my first DVD player, that was 8 years ago. I got my PS3 1 1/2 years ago, so 5 years would make it as successful as DVD. When the late-comers switch to Blu-ray in 2 years they are not just going to throw them away in 3 years like they are not throwing away DVD players. $hit, I still have a VCR!

[ruibing]

The only negative part of Blu Ray for you seems to be that it is in the PS3. Do you have any real issues with it? Like it's production cost or the underlining technology?

Blu Ray is already much cheaper to produce with LTH technology. And it will soon handle 100GB data with 4 layered discs. Both are compatible with current players and the PS3 with only a firmware upgrade.

P.S. Does anyone know the n4g record for disagrees?

[Daishi]

While lightnings point is off base I agree with the article. Not because I hate BR, Sony, or the PS3; but because I'm not short sited enough to understand what this guy is talking about. Samsung is one of the worlds greatest technology leaders and he is foreshadowing that in 5 years we will see a new technology that is a bigger leap than VHS to DVD. By then we should see 200gb br discs so capacity isn't an issue, we are looking at something completely new. Then again that may all be wishful thinking and speculation if the cost of transition is too high :/

[dcbronco]

Betamax is Sony's best known failure. But, Betamax is still used in the US by media professionals. Believe it or not, a lot of TV stations and freelance journalist still use a ton of Beta tapes every year. It outlasted VHS by a long time.

[Ju]

If its hard to convince people to buy a 1080p TV now, it will be even harder to do the same with 2Kp or 4Kp. In addition to that, you not only have to convince SD owners to upgrade, but also HD owners to switch to 2K+. That means the potentially market is even smaller then the current HD. So, that said, in 5 years time, there will be a significant market for 1080p peripherals. The market for such things is pretty obvious, and the product I am predicting here, is a BD player (below $100). If you're not really blind and have a brain which stores information longer then a couple of weeks, you might notice, that "Available on Blue Ray" is visible pretty much everywhere they sell/rent DVDs now. This is quiet a progress, IMO. The rest consumer demand will settle, not marketing speeches.

[SeanScythe]

Yeah lets see the only way that would happen is if nintendo or MS put it in their next system. The only reason Bluray won was because of the PS3 pushing it.

[LightningPS3]

Blu ray does nothing. At worst, they have to make the game on 2 dics. wow, how awful is that?

Was that really worth overpricing the PS3 and putting it at such a dis advantage from the start?

PS3 still suffering from 360 using price to it's advantage.

I mean come on, how could you not agree that was the wrong decision? Someone was even fired for this crap.

[Genesis5]

It is already happening now that DVD9 is not enough for games. Do you think that FF XIII will fit on 2 disc without suffering? In 5 years you are going to need about 6 DVD9 discs just to fit an average game if things keep going the way they are.

[trancefreak]

you are obviously speaking for yourself embracing and holding onto dvd 9. John Carmack has stated "3 discs required x360 without compression for rage" Blu ray does nothing ehhh?? Your 2 disc comment was debunked.

But I on the other hand like hi def movies and real hi def games that support lots of storage on 1 fat blu ray disc that i can add to a collection of other discs.

But i feel Sony is the genius now by taking an early adopter hit in the beginning stages of the console.blu ray dvd gen and has changed their loss to gain by bringing blu ray too mainstream adoption.

[beoulve]

all I read about this comments is LightningXBOX360 failed to move forward. Failed big time.

[Max Power]

"i don't care if the game is on two disks" blah blah blah, i think of it as this, would you rather have to get up off the couch to turn on your system or use the controller function? I like not having to get up for either turning on my system or switching disks.

[orakga]

The Playstations have always stayed ahead of its time be ensuring that they don't rely on TODAY's technology when they introduce their hardware.

The N64 crowd claimed that CD-ROM was not necessary and created "loading times" that gamers would reject: FAIL

The Saturn hit the market early with a high-capacity CD format, then was blindsided by the PS2 and its DVD-ROM drive: FAIL

The PS3 ... well I don't have to explain this one.

The fact of the matter is, the Playstation brand has ALWAYS stayed ahead of the curve and took MASSIVE financial hits during its early years. Yes, the PS3 went even farther than they did before, and I am not one to decide whether or not they went too far this time, but the fact of the matter is, history always rewards those that think ahead of its time (in this industry, that is).

The only problem with Sony right now is that their stockholders want to make money off of their hardware when the system is still only 22 months old. Stupid stockholders... they don't know the first thing about long-term planning... They are the ones killing Sony and preventing the PS3 from hitting the $299 pricepoint.

[deno]

I totally agree with you, bluray could not have come at a worse time. I strongly believe that bluray as a movie format won't last long. But that does not mean the playstation 3 won't do well. They still will use bluray for games. And hopefully they will learn a lesson, to not force products on brainless fanboy consumers. Look at playstation 1 no dvd or bluray just a gaming machine that can also play music, and it was an amazing piece of hardawre!!!!

[NipGrip]

How ignorant and wrong can you be? I've read plenty of your posts and they are just straight from some strange bizzarro world where ignorance is bliss.

[badz149]

by the way, it's already 2008. the BD is not needed for gaming argument is pretty much void now! wake up man/woman!

[Megatron08]

Its funny how no ever care that games like FF7 took 4 disc and yet many people consider that to be the best jrpg ever made. If multi disc is so bad that game would be consider complete crap.

Blu will only be around as long as the ps3 is. Only people really buying blu ray movies are diehard ps3 fanboys. there been something like 12 million ps3 sold and maybe 5 blu ray moves sold ? that should tell you something. Plus the fact that the people that buy blu ray disc have more then one movie so you probably have around only 1 million people world wide that actually buy them. Thats less 1/10 of the people that own blu ray players.

[jmare]

Your numbers are garbage. Also, for the era, disc changes were commonplace, hence why it was accepted. In this generation the only console that needs disc changes is the 360. Regardless of what you fanboys might think, having multiple discs is a liability, especially when the game is multiplatform and is only on one disc on the other platform. Carmack said it himself: The PS3 version will be better because MS charges for multiple discs and they won't pay for it. And because of that, the quality will be lower on the 360. This will only get worse.

[DaTruth]

Ya, Shareholders are the blight of the world. They're the ones you can blame for the global economy being in the state it's in. GREEDY BASTARDS!!!!

Edit: @Deno: I sincerely hope your being sarcastic,on so many levels. And that's all I'm going to say about that.

[ruibing]

Though you are right it puts the PS3 at a price disadvantage, it still manages to outsell the 360 despite trailing it by a year. If anything is going to jeopardize the life cycle of the 360, it will be its optical format. Developers need to decide between texture compression and paying extra royalties for extra discs when it comes to 360 games.

[Nitrowolf2]

idk but eventually something will replace BD, but 5 years? ya right i mean doesnt sony own a ton of movie company and stuff? and dont they produce BD? i dont think sony would just drop support on BD.i can see BD lasting longer then 5 years. I can see that perhaps eventually they will replcae DVD, and mybe every house in us will have a BD player. im not sure though.
how much were the fist dvd players?

[Daishi]

Well right now you can download more HD movies through companies like netflix than they even offer on BD yet.

[beefynachos]

September 26, 1996 -

Toshiba announces first home DVD player SD-3000 ($674).

January 11, 1997 -

The first player models arrived in the United States Toshiba SD-2006 ($600), Samsung DVD-705 ($750), RCA RC-5200P ($600). Pioneer DVL-700 ($1000), Sony DVP-S7000 ($1000), Panasonic DVD-A100 ($600), Faroudja DV-1000 ($5495 w/ DTS), but all sit in stockrooms while the battle over copyright protection continues.

[Ju]

I would even go so far and predict, that BD will outlive (or outsell) DVD by a wide margin. Why's that ? I understand that the industry will try to push beyond 1080p. Sure, they need new products to make sure people keep buying. However, I am not sure if that will happen anytime soon down the road. I think this resolution is sufficient for a long long time. While it would sure be nice to get the next tech beyond, I cannot see why there is a necessity to do so from a customer stand point. Well, yeah, there will be TVs with wireless plugs and services (internet and wireless HDMI), and possibly build in HDs (DD and what not). But even that I cannot foresee to become mainstream anytime soon. There is simply no standard for receiving information in addition to the plain video stream (like TV guides, movie information, and what not). This is something I can see coming. Widening the information portfolio. If these services would be wide spread and cannot be incorporated to a disk format (BD), which pushes something else then the disk way beyond BD, well, yes then I could imagine a replacement for BD. But then, BD is open and BD-J can evolve over time to add these features. Resolution won't matter. Possibly, future players will store higher resolution streams on disk. But, basically, when the HD conversion is set and done, players to support that format will be needed. It won't be DVD, and I am pretty sure it won't be BD++ (just to give the kid a name).

On another note. All these DD services are garbage right now. Convenient maybe, but garbage, none the less. Overpriced sub-HD rentals with lesser quality (720p with bad compression - BTW that includes the PSN video store) and no features (no extras, no subtitle, no nothing). Go buy a BD player and compare it yourself.

[power of Green]

Getting me a Samsung 46" Series 7 on Friday, I'm selling my old HDTV because it lacks 60FPS/120Hz.

Samsung FTW.

On topic I agree... I was thinking the same thing back before HD-DVD died, BD will soon follow due to better technoligy or more popular tech to say the least.

[beoulve]

really? then why you bought a HD-DVD back then if you know they will die sooner or later.

[Overr8ed]

word @ 6.1. Blu-ray has more life then you think especially for gaming DD isnt going to be here for another 7 years.

Edit: Why must we Flame?

[power of Green]

Why did you buy a PS3 when you know it will die sooner or later?

Why do I even invest in HDTV's when a bigger and better model or completely new technology will replace it?.

Why do people buy CD players

Why do people lie

Why is water wet.

Your point is weak and child-like(like an offended child) as if there is something wrong with thinking DDL tech or other disc based technologies will leap frog Blu-ray/HD-DVD and getting what is available now(or in the past) is some how contradicting. lol

[beoulve]

i bought ps3 because the blu-ray still on the market until now. It's been 1+ year.

You bought HD-DVD knowingly it will die in few months? Two different thing buddy.

Don't try to act smart, back then you clearly did not predict the death of HD-DVD. You got hit by it and forced to coupe with it. When it about to die, only then you suddenly switched to DD.. Talk to like you are Tech market genius.

[I LOVE my xbox]

Honestly, YOUR comment makes little to no sense at all. You seem to try to make some sort of point, but end up failing in the process. In addition, just out of curiosity.. How old are you? I'm asking because if you're stupid enough to misspell "technology" as "technoligy" TWICE then you must be no more than 12 years old. In that case, you don't even belong on this site.

[power of Green]

Your biggest flaw in your logic is your assumtion I have ever owned HD-DVD in the first place.

@I LOVE my xbox

Having trouble comprehending that?

My post means "because I can". lol

I LOVE my xbox, you're a PS3 fan and you made that account and gave this new account bubbles with your other accounts.

[jmare]

You are so wrong it's sad. DD or another format will not over take Blu Ray. I say this for two different reasons.

1) The necessary benchmarks for DD to become the prefered method have not and are not being met. And before you try to argue one bullsh1t or another, CDs are still sold in stores even though DD for music has met the benchmarks required to make it mainstream.

2). Blu Ray is starting to pick up steam. HD-DVD is dead and people (regular people, not technophiles) are now becoming aware that Blu Ray is the next best thing in movie technology. Another format would be forced to fight through consumer acceptance of Blu Ray and the lower prices that will available in 5 years.

[beoulve]

@POG, for the effort you put in defending HD-DVD on its glorious day as a superior format, and now you just easily and gladly disowned HD-DVD. Wow you are 100% hypocrite.

[XxZxX]

"@POG, for the effort you put in defending HD-DVD on its glorious day as a superior format, and now you just easily and gladly disowned HD-DVD. Wow you are 100% hypocrite."

GOLD!!!

[I LOVE my xbox]

A) Yeah I had trouble comprehending that because it's a moronic way of trying to prove something.

B) Yeah I have a PS3 AS WELL and don't mind saying how much I enjoy it.

C) No, there's no possible way I could have given myself bubbles with any other account considering I have no other account :|

D) You didn't answer my question of how old you are. I'm just going to assume I was right. Either that, or you're simply a moron who needs to learn how to spell.

[VF34EJ25]

POG, good choice in TV, but bad choice for gaming. I have the LN46A750, while it looks stunning, and quite possibly the best bang for the buck TV on the market. One small thing bugs me about it is the amount of input lag. Even with game mode, there's still 30ms of lag. And game mode doesn't look as good as a calibrated setting.

However, if you do get it, enjoy it cause I still enjoy mine. =)

[BabyStomper5000]

FAIL! Too bad you don't have any more bubbles to make yourself look more ignorant.

[redgaurd]

But I do wish I could download all my Gaming and Video content straight to the HDD.

I see DLC eventually taking over, the only question is when. Here in Australia HDTV is just starting to take off and with it the need for HD content, so blu ray is getting a big push right now.

In general, internet speeds here are poor, so DLC seems far away right now but it will be the successor to the BD

[Ju]

PoG, so, tell me if I got that right. You just replaced your HD TV because it couldn't do 60/120Hz, but you have no player to play 1080p movies ? Or did I miss something here.

[Nitrowolf2]

well i dont see didital downloads happening soon unless US gets better bandwidth to download and dont have limits.
dam i wish i lived on the other side of the world, fast internet
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Genesis5]

I hear ya. I live in Canada and we're paying quite a bit for not a whole lot.

[almanay]

stop complaining about ur connection .... i wish i had yours .... im in the middel east and the fastest connection i can get is 2Mbps and guess what i pay 110 $ a month ... so be thankful that u got a good connection for a good price

[Nitrowolf2]

good connection? my internet sucks, my download speed is extremly slow. its like im running on dial up

[redgaurd]

Where I live I can only get mobile broadband. I pay $30 a month for 3 GB of downloads and the speed fluctuates from dialup speed to 1.5 MB max so I wouldnt complain if I were you.

By the way, I go over my quota every month (just cant stop playing warhawk) and it costs an extra $100 at times. "Sux to be me right now"

[Lucreto]

I am sure it will be a lot longer. Blu-ray is gaining speed and it is advertised on regular DVD's now.

DD is still to far off. I am still explaining they need to get a new machine for Blu-ray and DD will be more complcated and uptake will be far slower as you need more equipment.

I see people saying that Blu-ray is not necessary and DVD is fine. DD will suffer with that as well as people will see no difference in quality just a slightly lower price but can be easy to loose and hours downloading. It took me 4 hours to download Quest for Booty's 3.2 gig file. I for one will stay with a hard copy until all the huge problems are fixed.

[cemelc]

The same arguments, the same discussions
Just wanted to note this:
They just invented the 500gb blueray disc.
Have the maximun resolution 1080p.
Its selling like crazy.
Ps3 is helping the format.
PPl just change to hd an a tv with blue ray more is than 1000$, you think that in less than two year every family is going to expend another 1000$ on a complete new system ill make a real prediction here that one is the one that is going to flop.
On every point the blue ray is here to stay

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

Bubbles for your analysis

[PoSTedUP]

yea in 5 years the market will be flooded with PS3 blu-ray players and it will be hard to compete with that. sony made a huge move on the market with blu-ray and i think it is here to stay for a wile. once the price drops on them HDTV's i think Samsung will eat them words.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

Bwahahaha When was the last time Samsung did anything right? Sony is leading the technological push in new directions.If you don't like it,go watch VHS

[Tobias123]

that anything is going to surpass Blu-ray for the moment. Digital Downloads will not become widespread for a long time, thanks to horrible download speeds(mostly in North America). Also, we need better storage solutions as well, which will take more time for drives big enough to hold many movies to become widespread. So Blu-ray will probably be sitting pretty as the HD medium of choice for quite awhile yet.

[SeanScythe]

The thing is that blu-ray has just about the entire film company behind them and even disney is pushing blu-ray. The games don't suffer from them look at MGS4, Uncharted, Motorstrom, not to mention all the heavy hitters coming out in the next few months. Blu-ray even helped with oblivion letting them put more on the drive let them do more with the game.

[DJ]

PS3 titles are going to be crazy.

[SeanScythe]

I mean Killzone 2 with levels that are in the Gig range is going to be a great example of that. Imagine with Team Ico releases their game, if it's on the same scale as SotC then we are in for an EPIC treat. GOW3 is going to be outstanding, and now that devs have gotten their heads around the cell we are only going to start seeing more great games.

[InfiniteUnfloppery]

The Xbox Brand will be long gone by then,thus we should begin Celebrations as soon as possible

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

We are already celebrating the slow and painful demise of the xbox,my friend

[InfiniteUnfloppery]

I'll bring the Bud and Hot Wings,I need someone to volunteer to babysit our Xbot toddlers

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

The xbots can be in a burning cradle hanging on the egde of a cliff for all I care

[SmokeyMcBear]

but but but.. digital downloads... alright people... pick one.. either digital downloads will win out.. or a new and better format... which is it.. pick an argument and stay with it.. numbnuts.. looking at you green with envy

[Ju]

I am curious what will happen then. So people don't buy now, because there is something else supposed to come in five years, or a miracle will happen or I don't know. And then in 5 years down the road we'll have the same discussion again with the nexter super duper product. Sure.

[KingDizzi]

Here in the UK I pay £25 a month for 8MB internet so that is $50 for a pretty speed considering me and most other people only get about 2MB but at least we get unlimited bandwith.

If DD wants to catch on, the UK will have to replace cable wires with the high tech wiring already in Japan and that is not happening at time soon, it will most billions and british telecom said it is not happening for many years to come.

With all that said, blu-ray is going to stay for a very long time and even if DD catches on people such as me want a hard back copy of a game.

[SeanScythe]

Yeah I agree I want a hard copy of my games incase my HDD dies or if I want to trade it in or let a friend borrow the game. The only way I get DD Games is if they are not on a Disc at all ex. PJ Monster, Pain, Flow, Eden, ect..

[jmare]

Another one of these articles of how Blu Ray is "doomed". All I can say is: CDs say hi. And laugh.

[aiphanes]

Cds did not get killed by MP3s or itunes or other digital distribution....they will be around for years to come...bluray has only been out for about 2 years....it will be around to at least the end of the next decade....and by then bluray will be around 500 Gbs per disc...

[Firstkn1ghT]

Mp3's have outsold cd's for awhile now. Yeah the cd is still around but no where near the sales of mp3's.

EDIT below

Actually they're ACC but lets not confuse everybody.

[beoulve]

hey dude, you know Itunes doesn't sell mp3 right? it is M4a or M4p, MPEG4 Audio.

[jmare]

Way to miss the point. Granted, Itunes and other methods of DD have become the primary way to get music for most people. However, Plenty of stores have large amounts of floor space devoted to CDs. If DD was really as mainstream as some people claim it is, more retailers would be downsizing the amount of floor space the devote to CDs, not keeping it the same.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Oh yeah? Tell that to Tower Records. A store completely devoted to cd. Where are they now?

[beoulve]

firstknight, you know how long CD lasted and do you know we still using CD until now. As much as you want to bring up the death of tower record to proof your point that CD is dead. That just make you completely ignorance. We are still using CD now. You still can buy song off CD. One devoted CD store close, doesn't mean ALL. Clueless.

btw it's AAC, not ACC you are confusing people even more.

[jmare]

Point, still missed. So some specialty stores went out of business due to lack of diversification. Also, DD was only a factor and not the primary factor. Another major factor is retailers like Walmart and BestBuy and CircuitCity were doing much better business than those music stores were. Those were thr retailers I was referring to with the large floor space devoted to CDs. Nice try though. :( = U.

[titntin]

I believe 60 million CD's were sold in the US last year.

That's still big buisness.

More people care about quality than you might think - and theres no comparison in qulaity between the original CD and even the highest bitrate downloads.
For the same reasons, I would not primarilly use DD movies even if the Bandwidth were there to support it (which its not). I notice the differences all too obviously.

[Guardian0fPeace]

ok, dual layer bluray is quite sufficient enough for 1080p movies, right? well perhaps it skipped samsungs attention, but bluray can have up to 20 layers, have we all forgotten about the 500gb bluray disc made a few months ago? and im pretty sure thats more than sufficient for even 5k video, which isn't even shot yet. all these years in hollywood, they have been shooting with film cameras, the maximum resolution that those cameras can provide is 4k, and some studios are slowly moving to the Red One cameras, on of which, the Epic, sports a 5k resolution. Bluray is probably quite suitable as the last optical disc format for us to ever need as it can hold so many layers of data.

[Nitrowolf2]

dude how insane would it be if we can use that on our ps3 to play games.

[Guardian0fPeace]

after all, sony did say simple software updates are all it will take to enable current bluray players to read discs bearing more layers.

[Nitrowolf2]

Look at some of ps3 games and look at upcoming titles. LBP,HR,GOW3,KZ2 and more, i mean they look amazing, and that due to that fact that they are on BD. Sony saw the potential of BD and that why they stucked with it. I mean ps2 is using dvd? im not sure so sorry, but its still being supported with games, but obviously not in HD, but still sony showed good support for all there system and i can see sony supporting BD for a long time now.

off topic: does pain amusment park come tomorro and trophies?

[KingDizzi]

In any case, 5 years from now the PS3 will be 7 years into it's life cycle and the games will continue to be released in blu-ray thus I could not care less. TBH blu-ray is a waste now in anything but gaming and even then only now are games showing the need for it. blu-ray movies are way to expensive to become main stream right now but everyone knows this was the same situation with DVD, just takes time.

[Pixel_Addict]

but whats the alternative, DVD9? Sony did what it could, what else is there? In 10 years (which is actually going to be 12yrs of existence for PS3), I will have bought PS4 or Xbox720somethingoranother. Their claim isn't helped by the fact that they are pitching their own tech, OLED. Who cares, by the time OLED comes out, people will be buying games and DLing them via microchip that is implanted in our hands.

[CrippleH]

500 GB Blu Ray disc.

[GarandShooter]

The article makes no sense whatsoever. In the first part it talks about blu-ray winning, but 'not for long'. Then in the next part, it talks about OLEDs, which if I remember correctly are organic light-emitting diodes. What the hell does a new display medium, which the article states will replace LCDs, have to do with a storage medium, or even more ridiculously, with it's downfall?

[joeynox]

they are right. As of now probably 70% of people dont want or need bluray and are happy with dvd nut technology is improving so fast that bluray will be out dated soon.

[PoSTedUP]

thats because HDTV's are still expensive, right when their price drops blu-ray will blow up. its commonsense, its not that people dont want it, its because its too expensive. even with HDDVD's- regular dvd's stayed alive, blu-ray is the next "DVD" and will be the standard movie format once the price drops, the next "better" format will be their for the wealthy people to buy and blu-ray (like i said) will be the new dvd. think about it, you can get an HDTV at the price of a SDTV and a can get a blu-ray player at the price of a dvd player.... its commonsense really.

disagree? cool, now explain why...

[Cajun Chicken]

So, Samsung?
Whats your great idea for a physical format that suits the demand for more data capacity whilst already having the technology out there in the market to read said data?

[aiphanes]

It is the HD standard...it holds 50 Gbs now and will hold 200 GB next year. It will be around for at least 10 years...bluray will be 500 GBs per disc by then. what else is comming out that is better? Even Microsoft is supporting bluray.

All the movies are in bluray now..all the HDTVs support bluray....the players will be below $200 by early next year if not earlier.

DVD is not dead and will be around for a while...bluray will be what you will use if you want to watch video in 1080p with HD sound....there is no other way to do that yet.

Digital distribution will not take over ever....nobody in the use will ever get a 60 GB pipe with no cap....and they will never distribution 50 GB 1080p movies with uncompressed 7.1 sound over the internet....that is what they will have to do to match the quality of bluray.

People who hate on bluray have never seen the best bluray movies on the best HDTVs...

Go to a good store and see for yourself...

Bluray won and is here to stay and is about to hit critical mass! The PS3 help for sure...but when the chinese $100 bluray players come out next year...everybody under the sun will migrate to bluray from DVD.

[Firstkn1ghT]

"50 GB 1080p movies with uncompressed 7.1 sound..."

HAHA, how many people actually have the setup to support this??? LMAO. The majority of flat panels being sold are 42 inches or lower meaning their is absolute zero difference between 1080p and 720p.

[beoulve]

haha? How many people used to have dolby digital in 1998? haha?

[badz149]

it's what we call option! so, if following your logic, HD in gaming is not neccessary, right? considering not everybody with a PS3 or 360 has HDTV. and there also shouldn't be any HD games on PC either considering not everybody has powerful enought gaming rig to run them in full resolution, right?

[nsky171]

"The majority of flat panels being sold are 42 inches or lower meaning their is absolute zero difference between 1080p and 720p."

that is a total lie. There are differences and you will be able to see them if you have NORMAL vision. The only people that can't tell are the ones that need to have their eyes check.

[supremacy]

here is the thing, blu ray could last even more years if the prices on both players and discs go down is that simple, the cheaper the product becomes the more acceptable it becomes to the general public.

now with that said i personally think its only common sense that blu ray sales will continue to grow, as time goes on.

blu ray can never be taken down by say... another physical format, why? do i say such a thing? simple blu rays were built to last past 5 years heck even a decade.

i mean so what if the resolutions and specs go up so will the players,firmwares and even the size of the discs as well, which are by the way starting to appear in various sizes like 50gb, 100gb,200gb and now even 400gb announced not too long ago by pioneer so... just picture.

is there going to be something higher than say..1080p? sure its plausible, but like i said even if thats the case the statement above just takes care of this issue, something that i see as problem for digital downloading at first i see as a simple method of just using a bigger size disc for the space requirements and specs on a blu ray disc.

look, im pretty sure that once blu ray players all hit that critical 200 mark and disc prices fall to a more reasonable price on most retail chains, than believe me the format will outlast 5 years thats for sure.

and at POG, the difference between HDDVD and blu ray or ps3 for that matter is that well.. one is still around alive and kicking inside a gaming machine that was built and design by a major corporate company which owns movie studios, TV studios, and Game studios. while the other simply didn't and don't.

so when you say when you know its going to die, makes me only think you only say it because several analyst or company honchos say so.

the fact is, for as long as retail chains still exist i don't see much changing for a good 10 or even 15 years kid.

[DevastationEve]

In opting for a whole new disc format PLUS a hard disk, PS3 will have an edge in that it never needs to be upgraded. So, x360's only detractor is that it HAS the hard disk, but not a next gen optical disc. But that doesn't seem to limit the games that can be done on the console. We should all understand that space is just space. Having more of it on one disc rather than having 4-5 of another doesn't equate to too much of an advantage.

Conveniences aside, having a single disc yields minor "technical" advantages, such as being able to make a single file that is larger than 9gb. The technology that most of you tout (access times, drive efficiency) has more to do with the construction of the drive itself. The disc is still what it always has been, only the data density and read/write procedures have evolved.

Given these facts, it's easy to why 360 can still push many of today's Hi-Def games. It may not be able to put a game that takes up as much space as Bluray can on a single disc, but it still can put that game on several discs. There would be only a convenience penalty, and maybe a loading penalty (since you still have to load the next disc manually). With game installs coming with the fall update, the disc swapping AND load time issues will be solved.

It's not the size of the disc that counts, that's just a number. x360 hasn't survived as long as it has with just numbers. It takes strong knowledge of the strengths and weaknesses of the hardware you're working with plus a persistent endeavor to perfect. THAT'S what makes a good game.

Now, we can all go to back to gaming. Since that's what matters most.

[cmrbe]

It will be 5 years before another format to replace Blu will be announced but blu will be around for 7 to 9 years which is the lifespan of the PS3. In 5 years time Sony will announce the PS4.

[DevastationEve]

man, I kinda hoped these consoles would be around longer. i mean, they already do it all as it is. what more could I want in 5 years.

...well, 5 years is quite a long way to go.

okay, so there's MORE to want from these consoles? sure i mean there will always be more to want, question is where and how will all that become a necessity. gaming is NOT a necessity, though it IS a major medium of entertainment. cd/minidisc was meant to propel music. laser disc/dvd was meant to propel movies. just the same, bluray/hddvd was meant to propel movies. all the disc formats had their primary uses, as well as their many other uses. they have all been used for gaming as well (minus the obvious entries).

[pp]

I'm happy with my dvd for the next 10yrs

[Solid_Snake666]

but what aobut HD DVD? =^_^=

[Rhythmattic]

Dont listen PP... I'm sure Sesame Street will always be available.

[Tykis]

Lol I think someone's green with envy!

[typikal82]

f that guy and aunt b

[Firstkn1ghT]

Experts agree that bluray will not have the same success as standard dvd. Their are just way to many options out there that standard dvd didn't have to face. 720p digital downloads have been going on for awhile now and consumers are getting used to it. Most flat panels sold are 42 inches and lower so 720p is perfect. 1080p only matters if you have a 50 inch or higher which is probably about 0000.1% of the population.

[beoulve]

I assume when you say expert, you meant POG, right?

[DevastationEve]

it's low now, it will be higher later. problem really isn't price, it's practicality. basically, that's when the average family decides to put a 1080p screen in their living room AND still hope that their kids go out outside to play with their friends every now and then.

but will THOSE KIDS have a 1080p screen in their own rooms?

(i see a fanboy somewhere has me tracked and is disagreeing with my comments as soon as i post them)

(listening to pandora radio, and i'm liking that rastafarian music. it's good stuff!)

[ActionBastard]

Experts also agreed HD DVD was the future. From a price standpoint and features standpoint. At one time, experts agreed the Earth was flat. Or witches were in New England. Expert's opinions change...often.

"Most flat panels sold are 42 inches and lower so 720p is perfect. 1080p only matters if you have a 50 inch or higher..." says the guy with a 42in 720p set. My 46in 1080p Bravia disagrees and so does her 51in brother...and 30in Samsung cousin. Open your eyes dude. Your budget doesn't represent the entire populous.

[Firstkn1ghT]

http://www.jolt.co.uk/index...

[Rhythmattic]

But.. At this point in time, 720p DD suffer from higher Compression than a 720p Blu-Ray disk... Or even the now Defunct HD-DVD.

[Rhythmattic]

Well for the Person with the disagree... Its your luck I didn't even mention 1080P.

Obviously you dont understand DD required compression, compared to the higher Bitrate (read quality) of Blu-Ray Media (Due to capacity) . Or as pointed out HD-DVD.

720p DD files sizes generally are 2 -3 Gb in Size (from what info I could find)... Thats less than a Single layered DVD.

And Maybe, Just maybe, Thats why your happy. You cant and dont want to know the difference.

I Guarantee , Get a Full HD screen , 42" or bigger and compare Blu-Ray to DD. . Trust me , you wont only be eating your words but saying "this restaurant Sux, i'm gonna throw up now".

[Iceman100]

I wouldn't even give it that, because it basically a dvd with more space nothing revolutionary there. Now digital movies that's the new wave, and since they did it with mp3 why not with movies making it way more convenient.

[cyclindk]

What are you talking about? They are all digital movies...and the only difference between DVDs and Blu-ray is the amount of available space...that's all that matters. MP3 is just a format, you can fill up a BR disc with a million MP3 encoded music files if you wish...what's this revolutionary thing you are alluding to?

[DA_SHREDDER]

I have a question for you Power. How many times has your 360 died on you? LOL.

[ActionBastard]

I remember when Blu Ray didn't stand a chance against HD DVD. And Blu Ray players were priced soooooooooo much higher than DVD or HD DVD players it didn't stand a chance there either. Then it evolved into Blu Ray not standing a chance against Digital Distribution. Now this. Anyone else see a pattern?

[badz149]

I can see where ou're going! I agreed and that's the pattern created by M$ to confused people and pity because seems like quite a lot of people fall for that especially 360 only owners! what I don't understand is, how can they talk DD that and DD this when not every 360 comes with a standard HDD to begin with?

[cyclindk]

Maybe 5 years left AFTER everyone finally gets a blu-ray, but hardly anyone even does yet...jumping the gun if you ask me...

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

is nonsense!

They should have made a more sensible prediction such as in 5 years M$ will go bankrupt due to the flopbox and that garbage vista!

[Serg]

Honestly, it doesn't take a genius to see why BluRay will last for long long time. The DVD became popular/standard near the end of the 90's, but existed for a few years already. BluRay adoption is a lot faster than that. And honestly, the only thing that killed the DVD is it's size limitations, 8,5GB is just not enough anymore, I own an mp3 player with almost 10 times the size in it, and it's just for mp3s.

BluRay will last just because of that, you can scale them to god knows what (still unknown) like Panasonic did with it's 400GB disc. And it WILL BE compatible with all players on the market.

Yeah I know what you're thinking... "400GB for a game or a movie? Dream on!". MGS4 is 50 GB, and the PS3 life cycle has just begun, imagine 2014, 6 years ahead when the PS3 hits it's seventh year and developers laugh about the "difficulties" they had coding for the cell back in the days, 400 GB is nothing by then.

[Rageanitus]

Blu-ray is penetrating the market much faster than DVD in the first couple of years.

Blu-ray is only doomed is DD actually takes off... but I highly doubt it because their are band width caps and the infracture is currently not fast enuff to do 1080p downloads.

Part of technology transition is phasing out old technology and brining on the new. After the old is phased out there is saturation period.. I simply dont see dvd going away in 5 years Hence blu-ray will last longer. and I dont think DVD itself will last another 10 years, so blu-ray will take its place.

[DevastationEve]

I have this service that Verizon signed me up with. It's called Starz, and basically for 5.99/mo I get unlimited movie rentals. The rentals are DRM protected WMVs, and their license expires in 30 days. But I can re download them after that and get another license for another 30 days. Yes bandwidth limitations come into play, but I'm on a 768kbps DSL connection and I STILL can have 3 new movies (about 1.2 gbs each) waiting for me the next morning after choosing them before I go to bed.

I can access these rentals on my 360, through Media Center Extender. Their license doesn't interfere with the playback, and I get to view them on my bigger screen. Which is nice, since my movie selection doesn't take up space on my console. It's on my PC, where it should be in my opinion.

[Lumbo]

Anyone else thinking that this interview is somehow skewed?

He talks about how "IT" has only 5 more years and how samsung will replace it by OLED .. erm .. OLED ???? replacement for BluRay? ?????????????????

Might it be that he is totally talking about LCD here ? like LCD being a format thats only for the next 5 years? and then replaced by OLED?

Quote: "Citing online rental sites like LoveFilm's adoption of Blu-ray titles, the move to offer cheaper players and a now clear path to adoption following the Blu-ray HD DVD battle, Griffith says the format will be a winner, although not for long.
Instead Samsung is putting its faith in its OLED technology. The new technology, which is "ready to rock", is being held back at the moment due to high manufacturing costs. "

[spectyre]

Wasn't it Sony who brought the first OLED tv to market?

[xxBATTLECATxx]

whys everyone so damn eager to kill blu ray.
i mean REALLY?
dvds 10 year reign was long enough and now people are barely becoming comfortable with making up their video library with blu rays over dvds.
listen, itll be here for a while. it can never really die anyway. same with UMDs as long as the ps3 uses blu ray for games, then itll be here as long as the ps3 is.

[dan88123]

Isnt Samsung Sony's biggest competitor? This guy doesn't even seem important to Samsung anyway(Andy Griffiths)

[PoSTedUP]

samsung is the biggest electronics company in the world. sony is the second biggest in the world. so yea they are basically going at it.

[Allowen]

Maybe it has 5 years of life remainning to be used as a midia for games but not necessary the blu ray will be dead to watch movies on that time.

I expect no less for a new Ps4 that it will support this new inc high resolution of 2160p and will use the same or a clone midia disc from Sansung.

For now 1080p is more then amazing to watch movies,lol it looks much better then to go to a cinema, but for me it is starting to get obsolete for VGs since PC games support 2x that resolution.

I would buy such new HD tv on day one and would use it as a monitor for my PC until a next gen console arrives....cable tv HD at 720p will suck on the new tv,LOL.

[xg-ei8ht]

400gb games, that won't be coming for along time.

Alot of MGS4 is the cut scenes plain and simple, i think the game is great, but that is what took up the space, even the man himself said so.

Repeated data throughout the disc can also help with load times etc.

This method is still used on the 360.

But what i'm trying to get at is this. 50gb is alot.

Will everygame have the cut scenes of mgs4, probably not.

So 50gb will do just fine.

I'm wondering tbh how much space farcry 2 uses.

Oh and POG, water is wet because of the distance we are from the sun. and closer or further away it wouldn't be. And it needs to be wet to maintain life. No Water, No life. Humans are a freak of nature. Just thought i'd through that back at ya.

[Serg]

Think of a game, nothing special, normal amount of gameplay and cutscenes, but all in 1080p uncompressed. Textures are taking a whole bunch of space already, then there are the cut scenes, usually like 30-50 minutes in total? This will take a ridiculous amount of space as well. Add models, skins, maps (KillZone 2's maps are about 2GB each, that's half an avarage game these days!), not to mention the always underrated audio, plus localized versions of a game can be stored on a single disc. This exceeds the DL-BluRay already.

And don't even try to mention that this is still not enough to fill up 400GB. It isn't, but this was said about the CDs, about the DVDs, and now BluRay. Fact is, there was a time where you could plug in your overpriced 128MB SD Card into your Camera and shoot pics till the trigger breaks, now you need a 2GB SD Card so you can safely say you won't need to delete older pictures to make newer once (on a single day).

When I bought my first computer it had a whopping 2 MB HDD inside and 32KB RAM! Man was I lucky back then to have such a 'big' HDD! Funny? Nowadays yes, 20 years ago, reality. Now I have 4 GB Ram and a 750GB HDD. Tech evolves quickly, most people are too slow to realize it and try to burn the witch over and over...

[tk]

With 200GB capacity it has a bit of life left - maybe ten or fifteen years. 5? No. But most likely we will see the Purple Ray or Holographic with the PS4. Maybe he thinks in terms of Playstation releases. Sony seems to always upgrade the medium with every Playstation release.

[Majere]

...price lowers down to DVD range they will skyrocket sales of BR's and players like crazy. I have a PS3 but I still dont buy many movies for it simply because of the price of them. The only time I buy any BR's is when I see them on sale or get them used. I am lucky to have an awesome mom and pops type store here that sells some BR's new for $15. =)

[dan88123]

nice avatar

[arika]

blu-ray is the inevitable evolution of dvd and will survive long after the five year prediction of this guy from samsung.
it is the perfect format for the ps3(future proof) because i believe it will take 15 to 20 years before it becomes obsolete and taken over by DD, but maybe until then it will still co-exist with dd just like CD co-existing with mp3's.

[gtafan]

I just bought TRANSFORMERS on BLURAY and they said it would never happen hahaha.

[ApocalypseShadow]

holding on thinking their lies mean that it's the truth.

as long as bluray is in ps3,it's not going anywhere.it's not going ANYWHERE.

maybe your dvd players are going or maybe your hd-dvd players...oops...already gone,but you are trying to tell use along with samsung that bluray is finished in 5 years or less?

i don't smoke,but someone get me a hit of whatever you guys are smoking.it must be d@mn good!

bluray holds more space,has more support by almost all studios and gets blockbuster movies from sony themselves.not only that,these guys think a tv will get rid of a format.what do these idiots at samsung expect consumers to watch their bought movies on?oh wait,all the movies will be stored all on the televisons themselves......wow,that oled tv must have a lot of terabytes to hold all those movies.

and if that's not bad enough,i was told in the 360 reaching its limits thread that a 360 game on a 7.5gig disc would turn out the same as a 25-50-100 gigs or more disc for ps3 if i didn't have to worry about cost to make said games.

using the same sound quality,the same textures,and putting no CG on the disc,that each version would turn out the same if i filled all the bluray discs(doesn't matter the size.)take a look:

http://www.n4g.com/up/Actio...

http://www.n4g.com/up/Actio...

using the same compression and everything,they were disagreeing that the ps3 game,built from the ground up,would not have tons more content from more stadiums,more commentators,more sound bites,etc.

the lies hd-dvd fans,dvd fans and 360 fans(all the same people) tell themselves to discredit the rise of bluray is beyond ridiculous.they even took bubbles from me for speaking the truth.

let's say a new format is released on the market to counter bluray.who's to say that if sony lost(don't know how being that 500 gigs is possible)that sony wouldn't have a possible firmware upgrade for it's bluray players or ps3.did any of you bluray haters think of that?

no you didn't.you hd-dvd sore losers are just pathetic.good thing i got the home beta invite,i need a rest from such backward thinking.there's got to be some smart,truthful thinking gamers on this site still left.

apocalypse..........

[Narutone66]

Comcast is going to implement? DD will be crippled by the cap. Tangible media is not going away anytime soon.

[FantasyStar]

Damn the Patriots!

[TheExodus]

Samsung didn't even mention digital distribution. How about we all stop to ask ourselves why we're defending a disc format like our lives depended on it? Blu-ray will be lucky to make it five years for the simple fact that early adopters are avoiding it like it was a fat chick at a frat party. Besides, how committed to Blu-ray do we actually think Hollywood is when we just cracked open Supernatural: Season 3 to find a coupon to download a digital copy from iTunes for free? Blu-ray is nothing more than a brain dead patient on life support who isn't coming back, ever.

[Frizzo]

it would take some pretty unbelieveable technology to surpass bluray considering Oh I dont know ...THE FACT IT CUD HOLD 500GB OF 1080p GRAPHICS AND TOTAL GAMEPLAY IN ONE DISC

this is one of the most mediorcre posts ive read on N4G if not THE most mediorcre post ive read

[jerethdagryphon]

he used a question about media to plug the new oled

yes oleds are great yes thell be use full

but no they have fa to do with media

btw saturn+n64+ps1 that was the ps1 generation
midway through sega launched dreamcast to break sonys stranglehold

2000ish ps2 game cube and xbox ps2 generation

wii 360 ps3 this generation

sony switched to 400 meg cdroms when it entered the game world
sega was on there second cd rom system
and nintendo was on on cartridges

200 dvds came out sony puts one in and says optiosn yours developers cd or dvd just make games.

ps3 sony again promotes new tech putting an upgradable blueray drive in but taking optiopn away from developers saying please use blueray youll like it

bluray may be slower but 2x is plenty fast for films even the higher speed drives only read films at 2x

when mgs6 somes out on a 5 layer bluray ps3 will play it
it should maintain the ability to play blurays upto 15 layers or something

bare in mind that dvd has only managed 3 layers max with a dvd 13

blu ray stays
pog first knight ... this isnt about the 360 please dont post flamebait comments

[Asher6]

i think the person who wrote this article ment it in dog years...

[theEnemy]

Looks like Samsung is planning to take Toshiba's place in the next 5 years.

I won't be surprised if Samsung introduce a new optical format.

[seraph pinion]

Andy Griffiths; really? I could give a s#it what Opie's dad thinks.

[Citizen Cook]

Blu-Ray isn't even on its legs yet... it's still crawling. Pathetic really. Consumers no longer trust the greedy sony corp.

[arngrim229]

cuz everyone who just got their bluray player cant wait to ditch it for something new that fast....honestly we dont need to go higher HD than 1080p, lets concentrate on quality not just the visuals please

[foodbox]

BluRay is an MPAA DRM scheme to make you throw away your DVDs and DVD players.

BluRay is Dead on Arrival.

BluRay is an abortion.

BluRay is a total failure.

BluRay has *zero* compelling competitive advantages.

BluRay does NOTHING I am willing to pay extra money for.

BluRay == Total fail.

[Naked-Snake]

Suk my dik Samsung your mobile phones suck, mine just broke.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

3 Problems need to be addressed!
1rst is Obvious!!Quality of Source Video!!!
2nd Compression Technology Used
3rd is Storage Space on BLuray.Which is coming..

The main problem is many of those old hollywood Videos that are being transfered are horrid and cannot be transfered to HD; they simply aren't cut for it!Thus all newer films must be on Digital HD cameras like say the ones they use for Discovery channel etc... and standardized!! To look Gorgeous as say theose nature channels or hollywood's ,I am Legend on BLuray! or Irobot!..

Then theres level of qulaity of compression !! God when I saw some documentaries on the Nature cahnnels,obviously they used these super expensive HD cameras that Literally made the World 3D and emotionally took my breath away for the first time, I really figured this is what is missing from Hollywood blurya HD movies these special cameras they use!!!

Alot of bluray HD is crap cause they used poor cameras and transfer to poor compression..or old source material ..
It is a long process to shift over and in 15 years they'll finally get i right perhaps??
But it has nothing to do with how long the standard is around but the industry in whole adopting standards!! to enjoy HD

HD Standards is the main thing!!!

BUT from what Ive seen on the Nature channels there are HD transfers that look like heaven and will put you into a 3D virtual HD world..THis has to Be standardized before BLuray HD becomes the greatest thing it was supposed to be!!!!!!!!!

[ForROME]

That a lame statement, because when it comes to games, the peak is from 1-7 years in a gaming hardware cycle, so this GEN we will see it have an effect a postive one. Maybe next gen that argument can be made and applied to games. But not this gen, its too late already.

[Mukiwa]

Maybe one day sure, but 5 years? Hell no, for so many good reasons that have already been covered sufficiently above!
I for one am not a big fan of digital downloads and it's going to take a fair amount of positive change on that front before I'd even be tempted to adopt that as my normal practice of buying media.

[NanoGeekTech]

Especially for games......Uncharted, MGS4,HS,R&CTOD, Folklore, etc....

Blu-ray and games are a great mix...the potential to do really neat, cool and exciting stuff can be done only on blu-ray especially for games..This is why I think a new 360 is closer than everyone thinks...

Blu-ray movies are cool.....and maybe around for sometime..but I do not purchase Blu-ray movies I may rent one once in a blue moon(pun intended) but I download 99% of all of my movies...and I can download almost any movie in 1080p...transfer it to my PS3 and watch it from there..

Blu-ray will make gaming a great thing for a very long time but when you can download a movie in HD now and in about 5 years I hope the US can catch up with the rest of the world with High Speed Internet...I think in 5 years there will be a big transition to DLHDM(downloaded HD Media)....

Also.....they are many companies out there claiming ridiculous resolution for their future TV display.....4K X 2K Tvs...UltraHD...SuperHD...Lase rHD..NanoHD....Atomic Photon Electron HD display...(After UltraHD...everything is made up I hope you get my point) how would Blu-ray factor into the new level in TV resolutions?

There are many things that can replace Blu-ray for movies: SSD, FlashDrives, and eventually DLC( that at least 5year to 10 years away)

Bottomline: Blu-ray will be out for a while....but I do see a new medium in 5yrs to 10 yrs replacing the way we watch HD movies....we will be playing games on Blu-ray for a while...

[gersh]

Wait.
They're making a 2160P TV?
Isn't that good?

[FFXI101]

and all the korean brands, they sucked. Blue-ray will last longer than whatever samsung has in development. FYI samsung, Japanese already come out something new called "Purple ray" I don't have the link, but I saw it on yahoo Japan once. So you guys at samsung can keep your technology to yourself.

[Allowen]

I would like to be able to use such tv with 2160p in a possible PS4 using a new midia disc (unless the normal blu ray can hold a 2160p resolution games).

For movies the new current format is already uber and can last easily more 8-10 years.Who really needs to get an upgrade asap are all the cinemas around the world.To watch a blu-ray movie using a cool LCDtv+7.1 is much,but MUCH more fun then to go to a cinema to see disturbing low res movies.

[pixelsword]

Say what you want, everyone 30 and older is accustomed to having their media in physical form, trading in their items for other stuff, including a box of Cookies or a pack of beer, and having collectables. Taking a movie to a friends house, or on a date with a girl would be gone.

On top of that, Hard drives are known to fail. Going to a format which robs them of those basic privileges and sets them up for a 100% movie loss will make it difficult to conform. Think about all the trouble people are having right now with their DLC, or having their entire Downloadable games collection shut-off from them by XBL when they are banned, or hard drive troubles in general that makes movies run slow or act loopy on your computer.

I just don't see it gaining steam.

[foodbox]

The majority of internet traffic -- RIGHT NOW -- is bittorrent traffic.

You are 100% wrong.

Digital Download is the medium of **RIGHT NOW**.

There will not be another disc as accepted as DVD. And, DVD is not going to be replaced by Sony's MPAA DRM scheme (bluray).

[Arsenal4Ever]

did Michael patcher write this article??

[atomdooze]

what multi plat game has more than 1 disk? sonyfag boys. just cant admit any mistakes made by ur beloved company. There just arent enough of u guys anymore to make an impact. Just keep buying movies. See how long it does last. Ur opinions dont mean sh!t. Sorry but they dont.

[atomdooze]

all digital downloads no disc,no fight,no space to worry about.

[jerethdagryphon]

that has to be some of the most biased writing i have ever seen.

no disk quite likly
no fight...
i think your wrong there

as for space
unless it ships with a tb solid state drive space becomes an issue
then theres download issues
unless your sitting on an isp or in japan speedss will be slow
you can stream films i dont think you can streams games

gamers will want there media to take to friends trade and other such
im not ussually this vhement but you sir are a fool for thinking like that imho of corse

[Boink]

why everyone is smashing this samsung guy, samsung is one of the technology leaders especially when it comes to multimedia, so I imagine this guy knows a thing or 2 about the HD market.

secondly even sony has said on more than one occasion that they believe digital distribution will be mainstream within 10 years)obviously it is for music already). so I can't see this guys predictions being far off.

[OGharryjoysticks]

I keep coming back to the Collector's Edition theory. I love Collector's Editions and there will never be any for downloads. I used to collect baseball cards when I was little. Now I collect movies and games. Collecting movies and games on files is not the same and takes the fun out of it. Sometimes I don't even need to play the items I own and I might just sort them and look at the boxes to relax.

[jerethdagryphon]

collectors will have a tantrum if it shifts to full dd

you cant look at a ahrd drive and admire all the little ones and zeros in it

physical media means you actually have something to show to handle

magic cards and others arnt nearly as popular online due to the physical media they exist in :)

or books sure sonys ebook readers great but you cant just admire a sd card and think hmmmm what am i gonna read tonight

midia works when its handlable

speaking of witch i need to get my bok back....

[Droid]

poooooooooooooor sony