It Was A Mistake For Microsoft To Announce The Xbox Scorpio So Soon

With nothing to show and a mixed message coming out from the company, did Microsoft play its hand too early?

[darthv72]

Nah... some think it was premature, others think it was fine. MS announced it and what is done is done. No sense getting worried about it now. It comes out when it comes out and people will buy it.

[Kingthrash360]

I think it was premature because the Xbox one is still a young console. Yeah, people will buy it but will it be successful? Are they trying to shorten console life cycle? Are they bidding out of consoles period?
How much will it cost?
Is it upgradable?
Will it just be another xbo that was basically a make old games pretty machine instead of a creative machine?
Should I buy a xbox s?
What games will it have?

The scorpio just brought on so many questions With no answers..you are right, what's done is done. But why should we except all this with no answers? Add the fact that it won't have exclusives and we really are talking about why not just buy a pc?...just saying
Depending on the price of the scorpio we don't know how many people will buy in. ...especially if you can build a stronger pc for same price.

[freshslicepizza]

personally i think the whole thing was announced so early for three reasons, onebecause they got wind of the ps4 neo and wanted to ruin their party. the other was to get the word out to developers to keep scorpio in mind when making games so that they can scale them when project scorpio comes out like we see on the pc. the last reason is because the xbox one has been trying to play catch-up with the ps4 ever since both launched. by having a less powerful system and less game studios than sony it really puts them in a inferior position. this is why they are leveraging windows now and want to show they are not going away in console gaming.

[gangsta_red]

"...especially if you can build a stronger pc for same price."

I don't know too many people who even consider building a PC as an option. Especially kids, parents, and young adults (tweens and teens). Consoles are still more appealing and still outsell PC's, especially when it comes to it's software so that is truly a false concern.

MS seems to be giving the option to play their games for the PC enthusiast or the console gamer who might want to take advantage of playing games in 4k without having the hassle or need of buying all the necessary components to have to make a strong PC.

Some of your questions I feel can already be answered using common sense and from past articles on the topic.

How much will it cost? Since it was just announced i wouldn't expect a price announcement until closer to it's release. They did the same for a lot of other consoles in the past, I would think it should also be applied to Scorpio too.

Is it upgradable? I am pretty sure Phil shot down that notion of a modular Xbox in a past interview(s).

Will it be successful? If anyone knew the answer to this question I think we would all be wiping our butts with 1000 dollar bills.

Bidding out of consoles period? Three options of Xbox on the market...how exactly are they bidding out of consoles, especially when they already stated numerous times they aren't.

What games will it have? You know all the games that release for X1, X1s and Win 10...those will be the games the Scorpio will have.

[ShottyatLaw]

If someone is on an aggregate video game news site like N4G and still has these types of questions, I'm embarrassed for them.

Seriously. This feigned "confusion" has gone from laughable to sad.

[TheHorseTamer]

People knows iPhone 7 is coming, Neo is coming so are those mistakes as well? The only difference here is Microsoft announcing it at their E3 press conference and let people decide now. Sony will announce their Neo at the Tokyo Game show with a release date and specs to follow and people here will celebrate. Put that in the bank.

Microsoft is just being more transparent with their fans and potential buyers that if they want the most powerful console ever made with 4K and VR gaming, it will be here next Fall. If they have no need for it, the Slim with an attractive price is here in a couple months to fit their need.

If they would have had hid it until next year, people that are saying they announced it too soon will turn around and say they are not transparent enough and people that bought the Slim model are mislead. You knows how it goes.

[zb1ftw777]

The console lifecycle hasnt been shortened.

5 years is the norm.

[Mrveryodd]

you could say the same for the neo

[donthate]

I think MS announcement of Scorpio was quite a success. Everybody is talking about it all the time, and everybody is anticipating it. Heck, it made even Sony pull a 180, and now have to rethink things while claiming they will only show it when they have games to go with it. Ironically, MS announcement mirrors Sony's playbook with PS2 against Dreamcast, and again with PS4.

This is also great for consumers, because you now know the roadmap and can decide for yourself what is the right console for you, Xbox One S or Xbox "the monster" Scorpio.

Trash360:

How many will buy in?

I think more people will buy Scorpio than Neo, because Neo has weaker hardware. As you go up in the performance chart, the cost savings become better and better. That is why PS4 and XB1 is so close in cost, despite the performance difference. Combine this with Play Anywhere and I think it is a compelling package. Even more so when MS makes PC VR headset(s) compatible with Xbox Scorpio.

[ULTp0ltergeist]

^^
I think Kingthrash is insane, probably use to work janitor for Microsfot and got fired idk. But fact is he is very personal about this subject, I guess he really cares about Microsoft.

[BlitzKing]

PC can be a hassle sometimes.

[ZeroX9876]

well for me the major points were that it'll run games in 4K native, hence the Scorpio being the equivalent of an high end PC, and that games could be exclusive to the Scorpio.

[Rude-ro]

Will not run, can run. It will be completely up to the developers. I would not expect a lot of 4K games.

[Errorist76]

It won't.

[King_Lothric]

People bought the xbox One too. Was it a commercial success that helped MS to reign the console market? Nope. People bought the Wii U too in fact and look where it is.

[miyamoto]

Reaction versus Response

[darthv72]

If you mean sony not showing neo then you are right. That is their reaction allright.

[G20WLY]

^Sure, Sony's hand was forced, but there's a big difference when you look at the anticipated release dates of Neo and Scorpio. Announcing something so far off (when you're still trying to sell it's predecessor and a new 'S' version) is crazy.

If you look at it that way, you could just as easily suggest Sony has forced MS hand due to the PS4:Xbox1 sales ratio.

Sony (probably) being forced into acknowledging that Neo is coming is not necessarily a terrible thing, given how close it is to release by comparison to Scorpio. Forgetting rumoured specs of either, I don't think any of us know enough about the market to be able to say for sure whether this move - bizarre as it may seem from the outside looking in - was a desperate one or a clever one.

[Errorist76]

The last months the PS4 sold at a rate of 3:1. They had to do something to prevent the rest of their fans from switching. Even if it wasn't anything more than some specs.

[rainslacker]

Mistake would be relative to what they were trying to achieve, and if they achieved it, and ultimately, if what they hoped to achieve was a mistake, which in itself would be subjectively relative to the entire situation and one's own outlook.

I doubt it hurt them or anything.

I personally would have preferred a bit more with the announcement, because as it stands, not much is known for the consumers to really base any kind of purchasing decision on it, and I do feel it could detract from the X1S, which in itself could have been a mistake, but probably isn't really bad for the consumer themselves, because at least it's out there. With X1S, they at least gave enough info for the consumer to make a reasonable decision on if they might be interested in it based on what it had to offer.....not so much with the Scorpio, which as more PR rhetoric than actual factual information that the consumer could use....and has led to quite a bit of speculation on what it means for the consumer.

[ninsigma]

I think, that, at least there is some sort of transparency coming from MS for once. Whatever about Scorpio possibly killing off the slim early, I think it would have been worse to wait. Think about it. Had the announced just the slim this year, many would have gone out to buy it, then come E3 next year, we have another announcement for a another new hardware that's EVEN BETTER! People would get mad. I think telling everyone what they have coming up is the better approach in this case.

[blackout]

That's the point. Microsoft giving people a choice. They could have been greedy and said FU, take this Slim then said hey we have a Scorpio at E3 2017 with no upgrade program. Once again loving the new vision at Microsoft.

[Rude-ro]

After only three years of the Xbox one, is that not what they are doing? Saying fu. Not enough support so we are launching the next iteration...

[UltraNova]

Yeah they are giving you the choice to be either left behind or shell out more to buy the new stuff. This applies to Sony as well but to their defence they are known to support previous gen consoles for at least a few years down the line so its MS who step up first.

As for the articles question i d say ask me again in 2 years.

[rlow1]

Couldn't agree more with you. The slim pre-orders are doing well on Amazon and the last I checked it was ranked third. So the demand is there. I think this strategy will end up working well for them.

[donthate]

Exactly, MS is making future investment with this as well. Bold move, but in hindsight so many benefits like

* Clear roadmap
* Consumers can decide what they want, and not be upset combined with stalling competitor platform
* Developers are now fully aware of what is coming so they can target their games and prepare games releasing this year for it
* Get media talking
* Stalled competitors plan and put it in limbo

I would say, MS did a marvelous job both from a consumer and developer perspective to even the business case. All the while, Xbox One S is selling like hotcakes.

Sony's answer?

No PS4 slim announced, and no PS4K/Neo news.

[ninsigma]

Why are you bringing Sony into this?? You were bang on a part from your last comment and the stalling. Sony have acknowledged the Neos existence and also said it wouldn't be at e3. So because they did what they said they were gonna do, it's been stalled?? You make no sense what so ever.

[rainslacker]

Developers didn't need an announcement to the public to be made aware. It was made known before the announcement to developers in fact. That's why I shut up about the rumors on many of the forums, and stuck to the principals of a mid gen release....just so I wouldn't inadvertently break some NDA.

I'd say the roadmap isn't as clear as you'd make it out to be. We know some of MS plans with their MSGS and Windows, and even Xbox. But while I'd like to trust MS fully, my skepticism of them as a company don't allow me to fully say they have laid out the full truth of what it will mean for the OGX1/X1S going forward. MS has a bad habit of saying they'll be all about something, then completely drop support without much notice, or quickly dwindle support hoping people won't notice. This is even more true for products that aren't performing the way they want them to. Also their idea of what support entails isn't always what the consumer believes support should be. For instance, they were claiming how much they supported the 360 in the last couple years, despite most of their offerings being Kinect titles and the yearly staple game release.

So, while I'm glad they made it clear they are releasing a new console, their roadmap often changes at a moments notice to suit whatever it is they want to achieve as a company, and I doubt Phil, no matter what he wants, would be able to stop that.

*Get media talking

That's great and all, and they did that, but lets be realistic here. You know how quickly hot topics can subside around the gaming community. MS gained the spotlight, but eventually that's going to fade. They'll still get the notice from the announcement, and subsequent information to come, but until the thing actually releases, any number of things can and likely will supplant the topic-du-jour. The actual Neo announcement is going to push Scorpio out of the spotlight, just as Scorpio has pushed the X1S out of the spotlight. Given that it's almost a year and a half away, that's a long time to keep the media, and the communities interest....particularly with the large number of big game titles, PSVR, and Neo/PS4 Slim looming.

*Stalled competitors plans and put it in limbo

That's just speculation with absolutely no merit. Only the rumors put the Neo out for this year, and Sony has shown no indication that they are ready to announce it fully yet for this year, or even for anytime soon. There is absolutely no proof outside of wild speculation, that Sony is reacting to the Scorpio in a way that is causing them to change their plans, or the system whatsoever.

I think they did something that is beneficial for the consumer, whether planned or not I wouldn't know. I think you may be overstating just how brilliant a business move it actually is, because what they did can easily be seen as a gamble based on what they believed the competition would do, and if that's the case, that means MS is in a very reactive position, and as of yet, there is no way to tell if this is a brilliant move, because the final results can't be quantified in any way. It also assumes that Sony doesn't have it's own counter move in place, and no one will ever know if that move was their original intent all along, because they haven't done anything but confirm that there is something behind Neo. Are you willing to say that Sony was also brilliant by saying that Neo exists? Because ultimately, that's about all MS did beyond the PR hyperbole.

[rainslacker]

Definitely merit to that argument. Lack of details aside, at least it's out there, and people at least know it's coming, so no one can say MS tricked them.

If MS made a mistake, at least they erred in a way that is beneficial to the consumer in some way. Might be a mistake for MS business, but only time can truly tell the outcome despite the fan boys rampant speculation. However, for the general consumer, they are in a much better position than having to speculate on rumored specs and take a gamble on a potential purchasing decision based on what MS may or may not do. Don't see why people would complain about something that is good for the consumer side, we shouldn't have that much devotion to business IMO.

Edit@Below

Smear campaign? Yeah, that's my intention as opposed to trying to bring reason to exaggerated expectations and over stated impact.

And of course Neo is going to take over Scorpio's spotlight. MS can't keep Scorpio in the dark forever to keep the speculation up forever. The spotlight will bounce between the two. That's how marketing goes. Most of the articles now are highly speculative, and extremely assumptive, and people such as yourself are doing the same thing. It has nothing to do with what's positive or not, because so little is known, that it's hard to say one way or the other how things will turn out in the end.

Sony on the other hand isn't hyping up either a Neo or a slim. Do you think that when they do go to market, they're going to be so inept in their messaging and delivery and that the Neo is so poor in comparison to the Scorpio, that there is no way that Sony can actually pull that proverbial rabbit out of their hat? That just defies logic, especially since you know less about it than we do Scorpio.

Sony isn't the one that needs the course correction right now, nor do they seem to be trying to right any ship, so not sure what position you think Sony is in.

And yes, devs need the information. That's why they're given the info. Announcing it does make it easier to get the info out there, but it's not the typical channel for such things, and it wasn't this time. I may remain anonymous for the benefit of critiquing games and the industry the way i want to in my private life, but I do work for a company which has access to this info before the general public does. Anyone with the proper qualifications and access would as well....indie or not. Not all devs have those qualifications and access, even with the announcement, as it's a process on how to get them.

I never said there wasn't a lot of positive press or fan excitement for the system/s themselves. Just that assuming that press will sustain itself for 18 months at the same level, isn't typical. Any number of things could be revealed which can quickly change things up, and with MS, they often do or say things which derail their own hype. In the mean time, all that press, and all that talk, is basing all that excitement on the most cursory of knowledge about Scorpio itself. For all intents and purposes, more is known about the upcoming slim, and how it will affect the customer, and it isn't getting anywhere near the attention, and IMO the general consumer isn't being informed the benefits aren't as staggering if they don't have an HDR TV, so in relation to this article, that could be considered a mistake as it marginalizes the importance of the X1S and the attention it could be receiving, but in this instance, I'm going to say it's fine, because it's actually more beneficial to the consumer to be informed regardless of how much information is out there.

[donthate]

Sorry, but the idea that Neo is going to somehow take over Scorpio's spotlight isn't going to happen. It's going to be a temporary bump, and then they are right back at speculating what Scorpio will be able to do, and what sort of news is coming from MS.

Unless Sony can pull a rabbit out of their hat, drop a bunch a millions, then there is no course correction here.

Regarding, devs need for information? Yeah, indie devs need to be informed and I don't believe for one second an anonymous supposed dev gets information about Scorpio in advance.

Regarding quantification, that's easy. Just take a look at how many articles are discussing Scorpio and how positive it is. Just do a Google trend search and you can confirm it yourself!

So please, take your MS smear campaign somewhere else.

[vikingland1]

Damned if they do damned if they don't. At least I know what's going on so I don't buy a system I don't need.

[dms5223]

Lol seriously! Why are these articles even getting approved still?

If Microsoft waited to announce it at next years E3, then everyone would be pissed that they bought an Xbox One S a year earlier when they would have liked the knowledge of a newer console coming just a year later. Half the people on here would cry out "see!!! M$ is just tryying to screw u outta money!! Evil company!! >:( "

[rainslacker]

Yep, and if it's beneficial for the consumer, then why would anyone complain?

I could have criticisms or questions about the actual info offered, which may or may not affect my decision to purchase an X1S or Scorpio, but no one is in the dark about it's existence and looming release date, so they can decide if they want to buy an X1S, wait for more info on Scorpio before deciding, or just wait it out for Scorpio without having to guess if the rumors are true, or just decide not to buy any of them. Choice is good.

[yankolo]

Pretty clear to me ....ill whait for scorpio.

[Kiwi66]

Didn't we have articles about this not long ago so why are they popping up yet again , its just repeating the same things that were said before

[ScorpiusX]

I don't think it was mistake cause it allows early adapters to prepare for the cost of it and allows those that need to save an opportunity to be ready to buy on day one .

@moldbread wasn't Xbox the first to mention upgradable console topic first .

[gangsta_red]

I also think it was a mistake to announce the Scorpio at E3. A system like this would have been better to announce at their own event some time later in the future and let the X1 and S shine for a bit.

But considering this and the Neo were leaked anyways then I guess why the hell not just announce it.

[dms5223]

If Microsoft waited to announce it at next years E3, then everyone would be pissed that they bought an Xbox One S a year earlier when they would have liked the knowledge of a newer console coming just a year later. Half the people on here would attack and criticize that decision my Microsoft.

[rainslacker]

I was kind of surprised about that myself...particularly with a slim on the way, which has it's own beneficial selling points which I feel were lost in the Scorpio announcement. Maybe not among the hardcore, but more in the mainstream or casual markets....where Scorpio won't make as much headway until MS talks about it more and it's closer to release.

I think a Scorpio event will be held for the press, much like the press conferences for this gens initial reveals. MS will probably use it to really say what is most beneficial about upgrading, show off what it can do, and have the spotlight to themselves without having to worry about immediate counter measures from the competition like you'd see at the industry event conferences. Outside a press release from the competition on their own product, it's not that easy to just throw together a press conference to get ahead in the marketing race.

[ElementX]

It was leaked, and MS made the right decision for something coming out next holiday. If they waited until next year, people would be pissed if they just bought the S and a new model was announced. I'm tired of companies giving the "nothing to report at this time" BS. I like the transparency.

[bafa]

Just like some people can be pissed that they just bought an xbone and now a slim is coming out. It can go both ways. Just depends on what side of the street you are on.

[ElementX]

They were both leaked, however a smaller console is typical during a generation, a more powerful console is something new.

[opinionated]

False. For reasons already mentioned for a month.

[Software_Lover]

Another one!!!!!!! We the best!!!!!!!!

[Yetter]

It's pretty damn pro consumer if you ask me.

[Rude-ro]

How is releasing a new gen console so fast with so little offered with the current console a pro consumer move?
You would think they would make games to attract gamers.

[Yetter]

telling your customers 18 months in advance that there is gonna be Xbox that is 4x more powerful than the one you have now is about a pro consumer as it gets

[Rude-ro]

@Yetter
Really? This is how low the fans have sunk?
Hey Microsoft, thank you for the wasting of my money this gen and thank you for giving others some notice that this console is dead.
My wallet is ready. :/

[spicelicka]

NX comes out next year, Neo comes out next year, every company is doing it in some way. Remember Xbox 360 was released just 4 years after the original Xbox. Scorpio will be fully backwards compatible, they haven't announced any software exclusive for it, as far as we know it will basically be a much more powerful Xbox One.

You are still thinking traditionally. In the past releasing a new console meant the full focus and support carriers over from the last console. Now we are in a new era, Scorpio is basically letting you buy a next-gen console you can buy early, which is great because how many times have we heard about Xbox One being under-powered?? Halo 6 for example will most likely be for Xbox one AND Scorpio, so how is the quantity of new games being affected by this in any way?

If Neo is PS4.5 then Sony are doing the same thing. If it's just a slimmer 4k PS4 then they will probably release a new console in 2018, which puts them in almost same position.

[rainslacker]

You're really talking about two different issues there.

The questionable consumer benefit of it's existence and if it's a mistake is different than if informing the customers of it's existence is a mistake.

For my part, as a consumer, who as of now has no interest in either a slim or Scorpio, I can say that the consumer knowing for sure it's coming is a benefit to them, even with the lack of details, because it gives the consumer a chance to decide if they want to wait it out. If someone is pissed because they feel it invalidates their current X1 purchase, then it's still beneficial that they let people know, because now they can at least express that criticism where they feel it's warranted, and use it to make consumer level decisions going forward.

[Rude-ro]

@spicelicks
As I do agree with your statement, I do not agree with it under the discussion of microsoft.
Their history of support is not good when moving on. This console is a new console. Not an upgraded Xbox one. It is also coming soon because the Xbox one is not only not showing growth from the 360, it is falling behind it. That is sales from 2011. That is not good.
So they are pushing this thing out in hopes to recapture that growth.
They will in fact have exclusives... Maybe not at first, but they will need to in order to push it to hopefully entice the market.
This is also pushing Sony to do so or risk a third party ship jump. Microsofts only purpose of doing this is to muscle Sony out of their dominate gen and force a new one all the while stretching the new AAA's drought to what, how many years?
They are not making games. They are buying them. Which I understand companies do, but this why they no longer have exclusives because the sales are not keeping theses developer afloat. It is damaging.
Sonys rumor was about a little more umph to get it to be a 4K player, but who knows now. I know I am more excited about all the games that are coming vs the new hardware. That is for sure.
There is nothing to get excited about the Scorpio. Great, more power, for what? Shorter Halos with story that is next to nothing now? More forza? Or go back to the advertisements of "play the best version only on Xbox" for third party games? Of which even those repetitive titles are dwindling in sales and it is not going to help that will get even more costly to make and it will punish the development because sales will not meet where as the ps4.5 would have been just a solid 1080p 60fps adding very little to development.

[zerocarnage]

In your eyes maybe but not mine and many others.

Scorpio/vr and ar and new games beyond its cycle freshly done with dx12, there's really only good that could come from this bad boy of a console. Me do need to get a bunch of new franchises on the go though, I do hope they attempt to bring in more Japanese developers for those lovely jrpg's.

I'd certainly like to see rts games make a comeback then, along with less racing, fps games, there needs to be a greater variety but either way I'm all for Scorpio over neo, not that I don't think neo won't be good cus it will.

[donthate]

Less racing games?

There is hardly any racing games of quality anymore. Forza is like the last bastion, and Sony certainly isn't delivering anything of Forza's caliber. I can agree with some Japanese games, but it is a niche market. They hardly sell on the PS4.

Xbox is getting a dang good RTS though, Halo Wars 2. m/kb support coming will probably open up for more of that.

[Errorist76]

Please watch the Sony Underground GT Sport gameplay from E3 and say that again. You sound ridiculous.

[rainslacker]

" I can agree with some Japanese games, but it is a niche market. They hardly sell on the PS4. "

Maybe that's true, although it isn't, but they certainly help sell the PS4 to more people....which is one reason why Sony sells more consoles and has more brand appeal than MS does. You, like many others, make the mistake of thinking that it's only the big titles that people will buy consoles for, or that everyone is itching to play the big titles, all while disregarding the fact people buy systems that have games that appeal to them, and the more "niche" titles there are, the more people a system is going to attract. There are only so many of the AAA hardcore to attract in a market, so sometimes, it's better to look beyond them to make the brand more prominent, and offer more things, to more people.

For games that hardly sell on the PS4, there sure do seem to be a lot of them releasing...big and small. Those publishers must really be altruistic to keep those of us in the niche market supplied with games while they barely make any money.

Also, GT will likely outsell Forza by a wide margin, and will definitely sell PS4's going by history. Most people don't share your idea of what makes a quality driving game.

[dmetripaulpavlin]

This week lets write an article about how they announced a product to early, than when the dust settles we can write one about how they announced it at just the right time. Remember to always write in uncertains as if you have no opinion and are merely an ominous what if blob that makes what if predictions instead of any claims or thought provoking write ups. That's how you bring them "journalism" without every taking a risk of being wrong.

Last week product x is too soon, when it releases omg we where right guys this was is not not the wrong or right perfectly perfect timing we said ever before back in time.

TLDR I think M$ or Sony or any MAJOR company like these players is probably a little bit better at all this than the opinions of us. Oh you disagree? Hows your multi billion dollar international business that employees thousands of employees doing?

[rainslacker]

I was with you until the TLDR part. These companies take gambles when announcing things, and base their strategies off speculation on how it will be received if they do different scenarios. I believe they have a lot more information than we do to base their strategies on, and likely are more objective when looking at how the consumer will react, but the still play the game just like we do. They probably consider actual consumer trends and real consumer desires more than the average assumptive fan boy does though, as the fan boy mentality in the marketing and press release meetings leads to things like the Xbox One reveal.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

i disagree. i think it was the kick in the ass ms needed to get people excited about xbox again. I'm excited.

[donthate]

Yeah, I think MS is back in their groove. The reception seem very positive, and the news keep going. The media is turning all positive on Xbox all of a sudden and balance is restored on the internet. lol.

Next E3 is going to be very exciting! Going to pre-order Scorpio as soon as it is available!

[Errorist76]

It's all marketing you fall for it....again. A console with no real support, just the same games over and over getting cheaper and cheaper and no one complains. No, lets shell out another 500 4 years later.

[rainslacker]

Not sure about that. For the most part, I see the Xbox fan boys have something excited about, and everyone else is pretty much in the same position they were before. Either still hating MS, not caring, or thinking the idea is terrible as a whole.

Every time MS makes some big announcement, I see this happen. The Xbox fan boys make it out to be some sort of major coup, and everyone will love it, and it will mean great things going forward. Then disappointment sets in, but they can't admit it didn't pan out they way they thought or said it would, then they start over again with the next big announcement.

Being this one is so recent, I'm going to say it's 50/50 that this will turn out the same way in the end, because I'm not seeing a ton of excitement for X1 outside of the normal people who show excitement. It's all par for the course, and while I'm sure some people have new found excitement in the system, I think it's a vast generalization, and extremely assumptive based on what we know, to say that it's so meaningful that it will turn the tides of Xbox as a whole. Any 2-4 weeks after some big news can bring in excitement before that subsides and everything goes back to normal.

[EpicSandwich]

I think it's perfect, gives me time to slowly pay off my scorpio preorder.

[Mrveryodd]

cant wait to get my hands on it , dont need an S as i have a one , neo is a must for me also

[IIFloodyII]

Well we've had about 6.7billion Scorpio articles since it was announced , so they must have done something right.

[King_Lothric]

Xbox One had even more articles than that and look how it turned out. I would not use the amount of articles generated to measure if an action was right or wrong.

[sammarshall102]

Except the Scorpio actually has more positive press instead of DRM omg f Microsoft!!!

[IIFloodyII]

As Sam said, XB1's were mostly extremely negative, the Scorpio's have been mostly positive. But anyways my point was there is clearly a lot of interest and it's going to be building for the next 16-17 months, I don't see how that's a bad thing.

[King_Lothric]

Some people here will agree with anything MS does without questioning like they just have no mind of their own. Let's be real here, if MS would have done the contrary, some here would be also "loving their vision" without an objective mind. If Microsoft would have said "we are going to use cartridges for physical games" the same people would have praise MS and said "I'm loving their new vision".

Is ok to agree with something but please use your mind and don't just be a robot 🤖.

[sammarshall102]

That actually sounds like a lot like Sony fans than Microsoft

[rightway]

Not sure i agree with that barely anyone runs games at 4K on PC, so what difference does it make announcing it early? Yes Sony can redo what they planned and they can try for 4K too, then you just have two consoles with similar power next year.

[danny818]

nope. It was genious. Morpheus was due this fall and what happend?! Nothing. Sony was probably banking on a miniscule upgrade in specs and from what it looks like its being pushed for next next year. Because of Scorpio?! IDK but im sure it had something to do with that fact

[Mugen_mind]

It was premature to announce Xbox Scorpio for three reasons:
1. They showed their hand to Sony
2. Why would anyone buy it when you can buy all the games on PC
3. By the time it comes out it will still be an under powered PC

Plus why would one want to buy Xbox One when they can wait until Xbox Scorpio or if you have the money just build a powerful PC rig to rival the Scorpio.

[Kiwi66]

Can't people ever think of anything else to say other than "buy a pc" , not everyone wants to buy a pc , its as if they all had a meeting and decided to repeat it in every xbox scorpio article

[feraldrgn]

Well they do have a point, especially now that "exclusives" is no longer a reason to buy the console.

[rainslacker]

Buying a PC is a valid option to play MSGS games going forward though, so worthy of at least citing as a reason for those willing to do it.

Granted, that stipulates that people are interested enough in Xbox for it's games...namely exclusives...to warrant them finally building a PC just for the ability to do so, and I would wager that people that were interested in expending that much money, would have already purchased an X1 to play those games by now, so it's questionable if MSGS games on PC would really be that much of a compelling factor to really build a PC for. I mean, there are much better reasons to buy or build a PC for gaming beyond MSGS games, so the argument of doing it to play X1 games falls kind of flat if you really think about it.

So basically, if they aren't building a PC to buy MSGS games, and to date, the games haven't compelled them to buy an X1 to do so, then it's likely they aren't interested enough going forward to either build a PC, or buy an X1 to play these games going forward....in which case, MS is right where they were before with Xbox's appeal to these same people.

But it also means that Scorpio's power is going to mean little to them too. So it's not really a win for either side of the console war trying to use, or counter the particular argument. If the games aren't appealing, then the power is mostly inconsequential, except for maybe multiplat games for the console only gamer, but also assumes those same people have no interest in the actual console exclusives that do exist....which may be true for some but likely their motivations aren't really bound to the power of a system.

Either way, no one(at least of measurable difference) is going to build a PC just to play MSGS exclusives as if they are some sort of godsend to the PC gamer or are now more worth playing because they're on PC instead of console....particularly a person who primarily plays on console. At best, it allows access to those games for those who aren't interested in picking up a console, and have, or are willing to buy a PC.

[trainsgofast]

Most will not buy a Scorpio most most will buy XB1 that plays the same games that Scorpio wil 10 and under XB1S $249 and 12 and over $499 XB Scorpio.

[rigo8582]

I initially thought it was premature but playing devils advocate and trying to see things from different perspective. I actually think it was a bad move. What it does now it gets people really talking about it and speculating from now til more official information is released. I think the only people that are "confused" are idiots or people trying to throw shade at microsoft. Also it gets the talk of power now on their side instead of Sony. It some what takes some of the thunder out of the Neo when Sony reveals it.

I thought the message was clear. If you want the best console for for 4k and VR we have Scorpio coming. If you want something for 1080p or 4k media media there is cheaper solution Xbox One S. Then current Xbox One owners can decide to keep their current console or upgrade if when they are ready.

[neutralgamer1992]

I think ms wanted to announce something before Sony and did so. There was never a plan to announce neo at e3. Many within ha selling of Sony's e3 said the show was sealed done and delivered months ago

Once again Sony made ms show its hand early

Neo is looking like a fall 2017 release

Now Sony will do a whole event around announcement of neo and get all the hype behind it most likely in 2017

[Bobafret]

I think they should have pushed the S for this year and waited until spring of 17 to announce the Scorpio. But all the Monday morning quarterbacking in the world won't change it, the cat is out of the bag.

[Jamesx82x]

They did NOT announce it too early for 1 VERY big reason. The Xbox One S. If MS had announced the XB1 S and then say next E3 announce the Scorpio people would have crucified MS for swindling gamer's into buying the S and then announcing the Scorpio a year later to try and get more money. Announcing both consoles hurts the XB1 S potential sales but MS for once did the consumer friendly thing and announced both consoles up front so no one can say they got tricked by MS into buying a console then have it be somewhat obsolete a year later. It is very rare that MS takes such a pro consumer path and now people are trying to say MS screwed up when they absolutely did the right thing for gamers whether you had any intentions of buying an XB1 console at all after the Play Anywhere announcement.

[Automatic79]

Microsoft is offering choice. Xbox One, Xbox One S, Windows 10 PC and Scorpio play anywhere and nobody gets left behind.

[MacTastic]

I don't care that they announced it, but why say they did it for developers. Why not just tell them or announce it at GDC this past March. Also guess who does not know about the Scorpio, parents and casual consumers. So the slim with the great price will be selling good this holiday. Of course these people will probably not be picking up a Scorpio the following year. Besides holiday 2017 might just be dominated by Nintendo's NX

[boing1]

They did it to stop Sony's momentum.

[emty]

Terrific another Gaming Business expert that knows better than MS...LOL

[Artemidorus]

They shouldn't of added a video just made people aware of it and said more to come in 2017

[CitizenFour]

People are questioning weather Phil has been straightforward and also claiming that "announcing Project Scorpio at E3 undermines the Xbox One S."

Had Phil not announced the Scorpio at E3, and waited till early 2017, people could consider that being deceitful and would have hated on Phil and MS for not being "straightforward". Waiting to announce it would have potentially made anyone who bought Xbox One S this year, angry that they weren't given the choice sooner. I can see it... "Had I known the Scorpio was coming, I wouldn't have wasted my money one the One S!"
Doing it this way gives people the option.... and so far, Xbox One S pre-orders are doing just fine.
Many people will never be happy with anything MS does simply because it's MS...