PlayStation 3 owners were hoping Star Ocean: The Last Hope might be an Xbox 360 timed exclusive, but according to the manual that came with Infinite Undiscovery, the game will only be released on the Xbox 360.
The likely hood of this going to the PS3 is the same as FFvsXIII going to the 360 Nomura loves the the PS3 while Tri-ace loves the 360 but Square Enix love making money so dont expect them to stay exclusive for long
Well Nomura loves the Sony brand, that I can imagine why VsXIII might not be released to the 360. But Tri-ace has been cradled by Sony even in the very beginning of the psone, what gives them the reason not to love the PS3?
Well if you want to talk about the past then, what about SE taking the FF franchise away from nintedo the console what saw its birth. Times change and so do peoples opinions on consoles and since tri-ace is making 2 exclusive 360 games i think its say to say they've moved on from Sony just like SE did with Nintendo
Just putting this out there. But why would they say it was coming to the competitions console in the manual of a 360 exclusive game? Not to mention that it's been only announced for 360 so far. Just saying man, these companies are in it to make $ and putting their game on both consoles probably nets them more cash.
It's funny you say that because i can't stand JRPG's (and i'm not big on FPS's either). RPG's don't appeal to me in general (Oblivion, KOTOR, FF etc). I could care less if Star Ocean ended up on the Ps3. I just think that this particular title will eventually come to Ps3. Hell i never even had a Ps1 and my favorite system of all time is the Dreamcast (criminally under rated system). edit: I actually love the Dreamcast controller. The triggers was awesome, the dpad was good and it had good button layouts and wasn't too heavy. I disliked that i had to buy the rumble pack and VMU but even those were pretty cool. The Xbox and 360 controller reminds me alot of the Dreamcast controller in fact. Sony and Sega teaming up would have probably been good but i do miss the quirky titles the dreamcast had. So many obscure but good titles. Games like those aren't made anymore unfortunately, too big of a risk for game companies now a days.
Criminally underrated, you are damn right about that. The controller, on the other hand sucked ASS. If only Sega and Sony would have teamed up together, instead of working against one another, we could have had the best of both worlds.
To be honest since its a 3rd party dev there isnt 100% it will stay an exclusive. I really thought FF13 going multiplat would put an end to the "BUT THEY SAID ITS AN EXCLUSIVE" argument when it comes to 3rd party exclusives no matter if its a PS3 or 360 exclusive. The same people in here saying that SO4 will come to PS3 are the very same ones saying that FFversus will never come to 360.Wheres the logic ?
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Wnzvd... Enchanted Arms and Dead Rising - ONLY on x360 - http://farm3.static.flickr.... Anyway, you are FREE to believe, whatever makes you happy. =) But soon or later, it will be hard for Japanese developers ignore PS3 userbase in Japan. EDIT: For those who disagree, what`s up? =)) You disgaree with FACTS, or this hurts your feelings that much, that you can`t stand these FACTS? =)) Well, you can disagree as much as you want, THIS won`t change the Reality. =)))
Why don't we wait and see how much both games (IU and SO4) sell? I'm pretty sure that if they don't sell too well, Tri-Ace will seriously consider putting the games on PS3. Unless MS paid them for an exclusivity contract.
The reason FF shifted to PS1 was because of the cartridge size limitation not because Squaresoft decided to go where the money flow. Back then, Squaresoft had progress in mind. Now that's SE, it has money in mind.
You guys know this has nothing to do with love but with development costs or are you all just that pathetic? tri-Ace has been with Sony for years, not because of love too, but because Sony have leaded the market (MORE MONEY), so has they been with Ninty on portable gaming. In Japan, those actual crap (sorry, not my cup opf tea) SRPGs on PS3 sell BETTER than real JRPG on 360. It's pretty obvious that other than MS payola or high development costs on PS3 (which is more likely for Star Ocean, since 3rd one was not a selling success, Square would not totally fund them for PS3 high costs, nor would MS for a exclusive that won't sell that much) there isn't much reason to stay away from PS3 in the land of rising sun if you like money and if you can stand costs. Maybe they can't do a PS3 version now, maybe they'll never do one because of cost, I don't know, but for sure this has nothing to do with "love"... ¬¬'
LOL at all this speculation, the devs said no PS3 version is planned they said they would possibly talk about it later on. All this false hope because the dude added his opinion with the supposed proof this is a 360 exclusive.
well i think its is the last JRPG exclusive coming from 3rd party Devs!! by the time of the release of SO4 the install base of ps3 will be more than 360 and the attached rate will be higher also because its not hacked system like 360!
than 360 exclusives since its the weaker system!! i mean MGS4 cant be done the way its done on 360, yes it is possible to make a port but it will lack in many many things of ps3 version! same will be for FFv13, about FF13 well we r still to see the port to the 360, we cant judge it from now but if SE wanted to make FF13 a good game and make a lot of money from it they should use a lot of ps3 features like BLUE RAY and cells, so if they do that i think they will have trouble with the 360 version, but i guess 360 fans will be still happy with dumped down version of FF13 but strangely they r shooter fans!!! any way FF13 and v13 both build on the white engine which is designed to make games on both ps3 and 360, so i wont be surprised if they end up on 360, but it will be the dumped versions!! i mean come on how can a 50GB games be released of 360 DVD9?? not even 4 DVDs can take it! they will need more like 6 DVD, which i never saw a game with that many DVDs, simple its not efficient for either MS or square enix!! unfinite undiscovery suppose to be THE game that will move japanese market but it failed, tales of xxxxx also supposed to make a huge difference and it did for only 1 week, star ocean will do it for a week or 2 then the same, FF will not do it because its exclusive for ps3 in japan and in the world its attached more to playstation than xbox!! so it will make most effect on ps3, and by the time it arrives to ps3 the install base will be equal or surpassed the 360 one!
The developers know that this will not sell well on the 360. It's been proven time and again that 360 owners have no interest whatsoever in such games. That's why Microsoft paid off the developer to prevent this and other similar titles from being available on other consoles.
A lot of people made some very interesting points which were great... and then some people made the same old fanboy comments you would expect on here. But Crazzyman... I understand your love for the Ps3, but in japan, 360 is at like 700K-800K, Ps3 is at 2-3 million. But the Wii, DS and PSP are the major sellers which garner all the attention in japan. Ps3 is a great system, but alot of developers seem like they are stuck making games that are low cost with graphics a bit better than Ps2's. Ps3 will take off the way you said... but it probably won't happen until the smaller developers can afford to make the kinds of games you would expect on a system as powerful as Ps3!
Nothing... I can't even begin to think of the words I want to say.
"confirmed" and then they proceed to contradict their evidence.
yeah, that was awesome lol
We just have to accept that in Japan buissness comes first and foremost. Who cares if your fans have to buy a console for hundreds of dollars just to pay an extra buck for that game they've been playing and following for years. ugh...
lol your funny no matter how good the xbox gets, no matter how many of my fav jrpgs go to it only, no matter what happens, id wont buy the 360. UNLESS 1) its cheap as hell, 199 for a GOOD console not the craptastic arcade ver. and 2) the most important, theres a modchip for it. (props to MS for including the 360 with an outdate DVD player) theres no way im going to buy old software at 29.99 each when i can get a modchip for 100 bucks and get every game i want free. ya im looking at u lost odyssey, halo 3, fable 2, star ocean and every other AAA game that comes out for the xbox.
It is people like you why video games are so expensive in the first place. Windows would only cost 20 bucks if NO ONE pirated it. If everyone legitly paid for software, prices wouldn't be that ridiculous.
They can mess around worth no name JRPG's like LO and Infinite Undiscovery, but Star Ocean is too big of an RPG to blow on the 360 since the 360 doesn't move RPGs. I would say behind Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, this is squares biggest RPG and if it was only on the 360 they could kiss any chance of over 200,000 sales of this game goodbye in Japan, while they would receive nearly 1,000,000 just by releasing it on the PS3 in that region.
they probably thought about that... But Microsoft gave them a check to cover their loss. Microsoft is really doing a great this gen; without this tactic, 360 (only) owners would've never dreamed of playing games like FFXIII, GTA IV... Keep it up Microsoft. I guess this is one of the reasons we're paying for LIVE.
Covering sales of this game on the PS3 while covering more damage to Sony and Squares relationship AND causing a rift between them and Japanese gamers yet again? LOL. Yeah, I think Microsoft would be paying at least 40 million to get this game exclusive. Putting it on the Xbox360 exclusively is like signing the game away to death. Not one JRPG has broken 1,000,000 WW yet. Its pathetic. That happens only for crappy IPs like I said, never the good ones.
If Star Ocean remains a 360 exclusive, Ill lose all respect for Tri Ace. The fans are Playstation owners. Star Ocean has a huge following in Japan. If it remains a 360 exclusive its going to fail.
I found how MS got the FFXIII game onto their side impressive, but this game should be treated differently. FF is a behemoth, SO on the other hand, while always demonstrated a good battle system, is still unknown to many others, except people in Japan. I know MS is wishing this game will make their system even more popular in Japan, but in my personal opinion, this won't happen. That's why Sony let FFXIII be multiplat, knowing that they still have Japan as it's main audience when it comes to the FF brand.
Tri-ace is practically aiming to fail, there is enough evidence that no matter how many 360s our in the market, JRPGs just don't sell of 360. Facts are facts, if they want money, they will have to make it multiplat. Plus the way I see it, SE should be making multiplat like FF13 was since the reasoning would be the same, they are losing money.
"Tri-ace is practically aiming to fail, there is enough evidence that no matter how many 360s our in the market, JRPGs just don't sell of 360. Facts are facts" Blue Dragon = 500 000 world wide with a tiny install base LO = around about 800 000 and it hasnt even been a year yet. ToV = very good sales in Japan.It sold in one day what Valkyria chronicles sold in one week with 5x bigger install base. now on PS3 the so called "rpg console". Folklore = flop Valkyria chronicles = flop Disgea 3 = flop And dont forget PS3 gamers are starving for rpgs... JRPGS on 360 dont sell as good as other genres on 360 but still well enough for devs to kepp on making jrpgs for 360.
Tiny install base??? There's 20 million 360s in the world right now. Even with Blue Dragon was released, there was still about a good 15 million or so. It's pure fact that shooters is what the majority of what 360 fans want. Just look at how much Gears of War 2 will sell, gauranteed at least 3 million and more. Even with the same amount of advertisement as Lost Odyssey.
The RPG's that Sony has gotten so far have been absolute crap, Folklore is the best one they have gotten yet. Just calling something a JRPG doesn't mean its going to sell boatloads. Now LO, since it was developed by Mistwalker (the guys who did Final Fantasy IX), should have have easily sold 1.2-1.5 million. It would have hit that the first month if it was released on the PS3. People who play shooters don't play JRPG's in most cases, its just the truth. JRPG's are viewed as being nerdy. Most Shooter fans will usually have sports games and maybe Rock Band but that would be it. Its funny to see La Chance get so emotional "AHHHHHHHH NO THE 360 SELLS JRPG's SO GOOD! LOOK! LO SOLD A WHOLE 800,000!!!11!!1!" Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon both sold crap considering the marketing and being developed by Sakaguchi's company. They are both failures.
oh at first I thought you were serious until you started using the word "flop", then I knew you weren't serious.
@ La Chance So you're so psyched about 360 RPGs that you call down every JRPG that's released on PS3? Folklore wasn't bad, but in playing Disgaea 3, I wouldn't call it a flop. It's as fun as it's previous iterations. How can you say Valkyria Chronicles is a "flop" 2-3 months before the game is even released? I realize you adore your 360 RPGs to the point that you've got to rag on every offering on PS3, but maybe next time keep a more open mind.
>> Folklore = flop << Oh really? Really think you should check your facts on that! >> Valkyria chronicles = flop << Umm...if you can predict the future (since, you know, VC hasn't even been released yet),....! >> Disgea 3 = flop << A friend of mine is going to buy a PS3 to play this game (well, that and I was able to convince her, but she loved the first two games), and it just came out, and I'm curious at this game. FAR from a flop. And you forgot to consider White Knight Chronicles! Will that be a flop, too? As far as this X360 exclusive thing goes, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad on an instruction booklet ever advertise a game as being available on the competing console, even when it WILL be. I've seen games that were already OUT on two or more consoles be advertised as one console or only ON that console on those types of ads. This and has anyone even heard them officially announcing a PS3 version just yet? Everything else is pointing at them bringing SO to the PS3 simultaneously. Not sure what the big deal with THIS is, exactly.
@La Chance I'm not gonna bother arguing with you, you misinterpreted my statement completely, and also needlessly brought PS3 into this, stop flaming consoles like a fanboy and grow up. My arguement had nothing to do with PS3. btw when you got a good 15 million people and a console exclusive, it should at least sell 1 million.
If sales for the 360 keep failing, expect scquare to turn to the wii and sony with more support for those 2 platforms. It makes no sense to make exclusive games for a system only to see sales bomb.
360 has the highest attach rate in gaming history, even if its sells hardware at a slow rate than the PS3 and Wii it sells software at a far superior rate than the other two. Even in Japan the 360 has the highest attach rate, thats the only reason so many previous PS exclusives have come to the Xbox because they are usually garenteed to sell
you can do anything with figures. Just because the attach rate is high, doesn't mean its good cause if i sell 5 consoles with 10 games and 10 consoles with 1 game, the 5 consoles sold have a higher attach rate. Its not so hard to get a higher attach rate.
Let me correct myself. I meant failing with sales for jrpg's. The 360 seems to be selling well with other games, its just when it comes to jrpg's they dont seem to sell very well. And look how many jrpg's they have versus the ps3. The ps3 needs jrpg's bad and is why japan is still holding out on the ps3, but I think with White Knight Story releasing in december look for those sales to sky rocket. The 360 got alot of great jrpg's but the down side is they aint selling as devs thought it would. Edot: Hiruma for your information MGS4 wasnt even advertised as much as gears of war. It didnt even get much and still it went on to selll over 3 million copies and counting. Also it moved way more consoles then gears could ever move. And crazy thing is that same bundle is still selling well. Edit again, lol. Yes folklore was a great jrpg but at the same time I dont think it was anything amazing that made people go wow I want that game. Lost Odyssey to me was more of a wow jrpg. I think the first jrpg that will turn peoples heads and make them want a ps3 will be, "White Knight Chronicles" Edit: Again, Hiruma but at the same time before MGS4 came out alot of 360 fanboys were saying how boring of a series it is and how it was nothing to gears. Dont get me wrong, I love gears of war, I just tend to think alot of people overhype the hell out of it along with halo that it gets to the point where they go way overboard when in reality yes those games are amazing no doubt but did they deliver the way MGS4 did against all that hype? No it didnt. MGS4 exceeded all the hype it had and overcame it in a huge way, and any true fan of the series including myself will tell u how satisfying and how amazing the expirience was in MGS4 because what u get from MGS games are something u can never find in a gears or a halo game, and that is an overall satisfaction feeling where the gameplay, sound, graphics, and storyline is at its best in one game. And is why I think MGS4 will be one game that will be hard to top when it comes to an overall expirience not leaving anything out of your expirience. :)
So i guess Disega 3, Valkari Chronicles and Folklore all sold like hotcakes in Japan for the PS3 right >_> And before you say they're not real RPGS your wrong, just because the gameplay is different its still an RPG and Diesgea 3 should of sold really well considing its fanbase yet it flopped in sells just like the other two. While the RPGs on the 360 dont sell all that great, considring they are ALL new IPs (except ToV) and on a console which is practically non-exitent in Japan they've done extremely well probably better than the RPGs on the PS3
some stores did bundle Gears1 with the 360. http://www.monstersandcriti...
Eternal Sonata was also "Only on Xbox360" go figure...
all jrpg on the 360 flop and this one is a flop in the making, only with sony ps3 can star ocean 4 not flop. it's sad to see yet another jrpg flop on the 360, but i guess that what Square Enix seem to want.
Flop or not, exclusive or not, I'm just happy I can play all these gammes on my 360 Oh, I forgot... DeadDuck go f**k yourself. Money rules the world and Microsoft has a lot of it.
Star Ocean The Last Hope Left 4 Dead There's a message in those names for the xBox 360 only games!!! ;-D As the Famous Film goes - 'Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only Hope' 'Help me, ANY xBox 360 Exclusive, you're my only Hope'!!! ;-D +I might do a 'pp' etc etc and go on every xBox 360 bit and see how long my Bubbles last!!! ;-D OH!SH*T!!! The xBotMod's are coming...RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!;)
i got eternal sonata, i dont see only on xbox360 stumb
I could say the same about PS3 exclusives : -F(m).A.G -Resistance -Pain ... Fanboys hold your horses I'm just replying to this P.O.S, I have a PS3 as well (it's my best friend's...) but I'm just tired of reading these kind of nonsense.
*yawn* original? nay, same old same old, fanboys are so redundant.
Bribed by Evil and loosing money cuz of it..owells ill give them some $$$ if they give me FF MMO @ TGS.
WKC releasing 11 December in Japan. RIP 360...
lol, double *yawn* SO unoriginal... I can`t wait for White night chronicle though, I have been playing Rogue Galaxy the last few days, Level 5 make great games.
they r thinking now and not later, by now i mean get some cash from MS and then lose a lot more from sales!! japanese dont like faulty systems, their culture goes with quality so there is no hope for 360 to win japan if even they lost their own home land!!! all JRPGs or most of them will arrive to ps3 but already to late!!! they should have made it the opposite so that they can use the power and advantages of ps3! 360 = failed in japan = failed in europe = failed in north america = failed world wide! i cant understand SE and other japanese publishers by their strategies!! why make JRPG for a console know for shooting and a console that is dying?? money dont buy everything and certainly not the hurt of people!! MS cant buy me or the japanese or the world with their cheap JRPG exclusives!!
This has as much meaning as the statement on the case for Bioshock on the 360.
You can read! :D
I want tri ace to make money but they are making it hard because people buy 360's to play shooters and PS3's to play RPG's. this generation has f***ed up big time :(
Like others have said, it's not confirmed at all :/
Final Fantasy 13 will also be a flop thanks to xbox. We can only hope for that vs13 will be good.
All jrpgs on the 360 flop, this one will too.
why don't you play games? did you 360 RRoD on you :)
You're telling someone to go play games when your dumb ass is on the internet. Oh, you are sooooo good at insulting people! /sarcasm
do you rly think u can insult mah people with such low-budget insults? duuuuude, you are wrong, i mean, what the f*ck are you trying to say? they dont have games? okay maybe they dont, but they have PSN, okay, maybe they have, but they are blu-ray-players? Dude i never herd such a lame insult, its leik calling ur mom a toaster, which is a very good insult imo. SO you mother is a toaster, and juuken and Quickstrike are Blu Ray Players, hrm, i think i could have figured out now what you ment with no games.. but dude, i think you are wrong. The Playstation 3 System is going to catch up with the greatest game line-up you have ever seen in this generation, Sony can fill out all the following months with great great Third Party experiances, and also first party exclusives, ... Microsoft doesnt stand a chance against those f*cking games, maybe there are some of these 3 great microsoft exclusive games that will break one or two scores of one from the Playstation 3 Exclusives, but man, who cares? the Playstation 3 gets so many f*cking good exclusives the xb360 can just vanish in shadows and beg for pardon to forgive their f*cking fanboys to be so dumb as hell. =O So now go to bed and cry, you lil mama's boy, and next time, think about who you insult, and how you insult, i cant stand to see such f*cking dumb insults in my eyes, they are burning, they arr BURNING. Soo, i herd tri-ace doesnt leik star ocean 4 on PS3... i would LUUUUUUUVEEEE Star Ocean 4 on my PS3.. hrm, thats bad, then i will play it on my XB360 q_q...
The Only on Xbox 360 logo means nothing. Just pick up your Xbox 360 version of Bioshock and you will see what I mean. But still, with that being said the game has only been announced for the Xbox 360.
Just out of interest, what evidence is there of this going to the PS3? I haven't been following the development, but everybody seems to say there's quite strong proof, links? <3
Only on Xbox 360 or Only on PS3 is just text these days with the exception being first party exclusives. Bioshock has disproved this exclusivity title as well as FFXIII!
Bioshock was labelled as a 360 exclusive when it was sold, as in on the box. FFXIII was told to be a PS3 exclusive, through trailers and whatnot. The difference is that Bioshock was marketed and sold as a 360 exclusive, FFXIII hadn't even been made :P
Of course it was eventually was tweaked for the Wii, which told Xbox 360 gamers it was no-brainer that FFXII could be done on the 360.
It was called Crystal Tools and was a multiplatform engine? I don't really know though :P
Got to give it up to Microsoft. They are definitely trying harder than Sony is. Sony got caught slipping and that's why Microsoft is the home of the best jrpg's. You want to play Star Ocean you have a few things you can do: Get a 360, write up a petition and whine about it, pray and hope and maybe you'll get it sometime next year.
Or you can just play it on your friends 360.
Xbox was a year early. So it only makes sense for SO4 to be a year late. Done.. End of story. I'll keep my ps3 for quite a long time. I have no problem with waiting the difference in console release dates. :-)