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The Souls Games Aren’t Fun: An Analysis

I kept having the urge to give the game another chance. But why? “The game isn’t even fun”, I told myself. And I still tell myself that. The Souls games aren’t fun. They’re just not.

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stuna13243d ago

Then what are they? They sure aren't boring, sure they can be extremely challenging and downright punishing hard, but getting past that point that you've died multiple times on is where the enjoyment comes in. The sense of accomplishment is what equates to the enjoyment of the games.

When you enjoy something that summarily means you have fun doing it!

salinas913242d ago

They surely can create conflicting emotions, especially since nowadays many games seem to be holding your hand. I try not to generalize, of course.

Cy3241d ago

Agreed. They're stressful and frustrating.

BiggerBoss3241d ago

Sounds like you never got gud

Cy3241d ago

Never cared to. I play games for an enjoyable experience, dying over and over again for hours just to get more skilled at something I'm not enjoying is pretty pointless.

jessionpc3241d ago

@Cy

My first souls game was Bloodborne. It was hard for a half hour. I played wow for 6 years before hand.

It's not even you didn't care to get gud, it's just you ain't ever gud.

Eidolon3241d ago (Edited 3241d ago )

I like the challenge, it's fun, but I can only take so much before I put it down for a bit and try play something else and think about how to reassess why I was having trouble. Dark Souls 3, I got to Anor Londo and I have tried so many times to beat Aldrich and then I see SL 1 's do it and it pisses me off, but to be fair all those fights I've noticed looked way eaiser, for some reason Alrich seems much more aggressive and does much more damage on my game. One hit on their game and it takes off almost nothing and they have much lower HP I would imagine, while on mine that same hit would take over 3/4 more bar embered and several points in Vigor.

nix3241d ago

Cy,

It is fun after you figure out the mechanics.

ColonelHugh3241d ago

@eidolon

I don't know if you're still stuck, but try wearing darkness and fire resistant robes and not armor since Aldrich eats right through it with his elements.

Hope you've got a female character, cause odds are you'll be wearing a dress. My manly bearded avatar of myself wearing a dress took out much of the joy of success.

For the record, Aldrich gave me a hard time because I was underleveled. Only the Nameless King gave me a hard time, and still wasn't as annoying as Demon's Souls' Tower Knight.

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FITgamer3241d ago

I could see that for the more casual gamer. I personally love them. Souls/Bloodborne have become one of my series of games ever. They aren't really hard, all it takes is a little patience and learning enemy movement patterns. If you try to play these games like your average hack and slash, you aren't going to have a fun time.

Cy3241d ago

Learning patterns is boring, though.

BlaqMagiq13241d ago

No you're just too slow and impatient.

oIITSBIIo3241d ago

I think you're too slow to die for hours and not gain the skills, and by slow I mean stupid.

sullynathan3241d ago

If you're dying over and over again, then you plain old just suck in the souls games.

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metalgod883241d ago

One's man's pleasure is another man's pain. Everyone is different brah. I really really enjoy the Soul's series not because its challenging or because the bosses are epic. I love the games because of the adventure. You never know what you're going to find around the corner. It could be an enemy that could destroy you seconds, but more than likely, there is treasure waiting for you IF you can defeat this tough enemy. Not to mention, there's like always a ton of armor/weapons in the game so you can always change your playstyle.

Its a complicated RPG, but at its core, its a hack and slash adventure game and those are my favorite.

hirobrotagonist3241d ago

Stop sucking at videogames and then complaining about it

BiggerBoss3241d ago

I find the Souls games very fun. Some of the bosses are crazy hard, but the gameplay itself is really fun

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50 Best PS3 Games of All Time

The PlayStation 3 is Sony’s most interesting home console ever, but what’s most interesting of all is trying to nail down the very best games on a console with hundreds of incredible games. Let’s give it a shot.

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darthv7269d ago

Personally, I'd rank Pacific Rift in my top 10. It's the best of the series.

badz14968d ago

We desperately need Motorstorm back. Evolution is no more though and this makes me sad

Cacabunga68d ago

Sly Thieves in Time
Stay the Party
Portal 2
Dj Hero
Demon’s Souls
God of war Ascension

rudero68d ago

2 of those games got railed through the “gaming media” during release.
Sly and god of war.
Both of which were fantastic games.

Cacabunga67d ago

Ascension is VERY underrated. Remake please!

Venoxn4g68d ago

Decent list.. I would put the Castle Crashers as well..

1Victor68d ago

Yes it’s a decent list of popular games with a heavy hand on FPS and no Warhawk or Starhawk 2 of the best games (not sale wise) on ps3.
I would buy a Starhawk again even if it didn’t have a graphics upgrade hell I would even take a new one with micro transactions 😱🤯

Profchaos68d ago

I've noticed a recent nostalgia for the PS3 and I don't get it for me it's been my least favourite generation to date and I've been gaming since the NES I just feel like the ambition of the developers outweighed the capabilities of the consoles so I remember lots of games running in the lower end of 20fps range and I remember for the first time ever actually disliking the duelshock 3 and it's curved triggers

Sure there were some standouts and great games but that's the only gen I switched entirely to PC gaming

darthv7268d ago

Maybe the recent nostalgia is because pretty much all of its games are trapped on that console. People want to play them on more modern hardware. hell... if XB can do it then so can Sony. there are competent emulators out there that can run on PS4/5 hardware but Sony just wont let them become official... why is that?

If we are talking least favorite generations (personally) then this one is certainly mine. i had more fun playing 8th, 7th and 6th gen stuff than 9th. And it isnt like i dont have access to do so... the heavy hitters just havent shown up anywhere close to those previous gens. The few here and there just doesnt cut it compared to the likes of constant good games that showed up in 6th, 7th and 8th gen. hell.... I'll even throw in 5th gen has been better than this one.

Profchaos68d ago

I tend to agree there's lots of amazing games locked to the PS3 like GTA IV or mgs 4 but then again my issue was never with the content the PS3 had but rather it's performance many other people have said the PS3 felt like it couldn't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time using PSN and downloading a game could take a few minutes to just start a download.

I typically don't worry all that much about performance I've never had a problem with games that run at 30 but games like crysis 2, Skyrim are good examples where the performance was so unstable you would never even touch the top of the frame cap and the hitching was worse than say Goldeneye on the n64

I think emulation is more than possible on the ps5 though it's just that Sony has no incentive to rush it's development it will likely be a ps6 feature if it ever happens at all.

But yeah the 9th gen has been so bad from a content perspective thats a given I see constant articles where people are frequently expressing their disappointment around the industry as a whole right now to much live service competition that sinks longstanding studios and consumes Devs time less ambition and games cost so much to make they have to play it safe.

The 5th gen was easily better than the 9th we had some all time greats crash, Spyro, Tony hawk, mgs, Mario,64, Goldeneye, Mario kart 64 the list goes on. The 5th gave us a new dimension and I remember being blown away by how much more open gaming had become the 4th gen with the mega drive and SNES was great and very easy to still revisit some of the greatest games of all time came out like earthbound, secret of mana, sonic , Mario world etc but saving our games was still not a standard function or a given so gaming was still evolving but it was very impressive to see some of the tricks Devs used like dithering to give us new experiences those earlier gens limitations bred innovation.

Michiel198968d ago

if XB can do it so can sony? I didn't know xbox had a cell processor in their older consoles, that's the reason why ps3 was so cool, but also the reason why games are hostage there and no, xbox did nothing similar even though their backward compatbility is good, they always had a similar architecture to their consoles.

darthv7267d ago

Sorry Michael... I guess you missed the obvious part where i said there are already emulators out that do this. and that is what XB is doing... emulators for OG and 360 games. Its why the full slate is not BC on XBO/Series.

coolbeans68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

The list is missing Folklore.

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FromSoftware didn’t want Sony to publish Dark Souls due to how Demon’s Souls was treated

Former SIE president Yoshida explained that Sony wanted to work on the sequel to Demon’s Souls with FromSoftware, but the developer turned it down and instead decided to work with Bandai Namco on what would become Dark Souls.

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Luc2079d ago

Not sure what Sony was thinking. Wrong people testing the game. It was my favourite game from the PS3 days. Had to import it from Canada because it wasn't available in Europe at the time. Then I bought it again when a local version was available. It was fun to play online and get two separate platinum.

Cacabunga79d ago

I understand, sony acting so cocky when it came out. But they quickly realized what they were missing on. I remember an interview of Yoshida saying clearly he hated the game.

SDuck79d ago

"But they quickly realized what they were missing on."
So they've been sleeping on Bloodborne too

RaiderNation79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Sony didn't realize what they had with Demons Souls. It happens. Marvel approached Xbox to make Spider-Man before they went to Sony and Phil Spencer said "thanks but no thanks". You win some, you lose some. Personally I wasn't THAT bowled over by Demons Souls either when it launched on PS3. I thought it was slow and clunky. The remake on PS5, however, is fantastic! So I get why Sony was lukewarm on the franchise. I dont know if anybody could've foreseen what From Software would eventually become.

Palitera79d ago

To be fair, not even From Software knew the huge success it would become. Their revenue target was tiny, as already confirmed by Miyazaki.

LoveSpuds79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Exactly, these nipple head 'journalists' trying to spin this into a story to wield against Sony are ignoring the fact that hindsight is 20/20.

As you correctly point out, Demons Souls was incredibly niche at the time so it's not a surprise that Sony were cautious about investing huge amounts into advertising and support etc.

Pyrofire9579d ago

You can't just find the RIGHT people. This kind of thing didn't exist yet. FROMSOFTWARE started something huge and you could never see it unless you happen to get someone who not only gets a gut instinct but also the will and authority to act on it. You can't look back from 2025, you have to see it in a 2009 landscape. And Demon's Souls didn't even hit big, it wasn't until Dark Souls that it all started hitting, shortly after it's release in 2011.

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GamingSinceForever79d ago

Hey sometimes you just can’t see the potential.

It’s like the Chicago Bears moving up in the draft to take Trubisky over Pat Mahomes.

Pyrofire9579d ago

I don't know one ounce of these sports teams, but yes, exactly like that.

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jznrpg79d ago

I bought the Japanese version of Demons Souls before US release. Me and my friend heard about it from an online friend in Japan. It took a while for it to become popular in the US. It was a new IP with nothing like it at the time and it wasn’t easy to play obviously. Eventually word of mouth spread about it and sales picked up after launch. I don’t think anyone could have seen how big it would be at the time. It was considered very niche and hardcore games were minimal.

Scissorman79d ago

I do wonder if we'll ever see Demon's Souls 2. Sony clearly wanted it. FromSoftware's subsequent releases penetrated the mainstream in ways the developer likely never imagined. Any stigma or negative perception around the original game's release has long passed. Bluepoint's remake sold very well on PS5. I think the time has come to visit the IP that started it all.

ocelot0779d ago

With Sony now firmly in bed with Kadokawa now. I think a Demon's Souls 2 and/or Bloodborne 2 is fairly likely.

Pyrofire9579d ago

They also seem to not want to get on Fromsoft's bad side or undercut them in any way. I think it's completely up to FS. (which is kinda funny cause FS themselves makes weird moves with their games whenever it's not Miyazaki helming the project. ie DS2 and Nightreign)

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30 Years Ago, Elden Ring And Dark Souls Dev FromSoftware Released Its "Mind-Boggling" Debut

Today marks the 30th birthday of King's Field, a PlayStation title with an incredible legacy – and one which some Western players might be unaware of.

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Pedantic91144d ago

If only they would remake or make a sequel to shadow tower abyss.

Babadook7144d ago

I remember. It showed potential for a new type of action RPG.

Loktai144d ago (Edited 144d ago )

I still have my original release PS1 long box King's Field right here on my shelf. Great game., Looks better on a CRT than you can really appreciate in emulators or screenshots too, or Im just nostalgic. Note: actually it would be kings field 2 in japan but released here as kings field, so I guess its the second game. Great none the less.

gold_drake143d ago

i recently played it, its pretty good

Grilla143d ago (Edited 143d ago )

It was great. I always wondered what happened to the series/developer. Wasn’t til a few years ago I found out they moved on to the souls games. It’s nice to see them get the appreciation they deserve.

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