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Sony Had the Biggest VR Game Reveals of E3, But Oculus Had the Best

Oculus VR's E3 2016 showing was a lot smaller than PlayStation VR's, but it was still much more significant in the long run.

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Foehammer2869d ago (Edited 2869d ago )

Kudos to the Oculus team for bringing quality over quantity.

A pricier option but this falls right in line with MS vision, as Oculus will work with PC and Scorpio, and buying a game on Scorpio nets you the PC game as well.

Someone was thinking

ApocalypseShadow2869d ago (Edited 2869d ago )

Um....sure

As good as oculus is, it's not going to do well unless Sony does well. And not everyone is going to run out to pay the high price of admission. $599 and that DOESN'T include oculus motion controllers. Is that another $100-$150 on top of an expensive PC?

As for the games, Sony has so many scheduled for VR, it's hard for them to present them all. And most hold their own against PC. Oculus showed less because they have less to show. I expect PC will have more overall in the future but we are talking about today and launching the VR platform. You need games in different genres for different customers to sell it now. And Sony has 40 million VR ready console owners to sell to. They need variety to choose from.

As for Microsoft... Yeah.. Their "vision"... Their vision is excluding Xbox one gamers and telling them the system is not good enough for VR. Ditto for Xbox one S. While the competition will be offering it for a good price with good quality, Microsoft is saying you need an entire new system a year and a half later to jump in. Yeah... "someone was thinking" current gamers don't matter. And oculus working on PC still doesn't help the current Xbox one owner or the free PC digital copy.

If you want to join everyone else in VR, Xbox is not the place anytime soon.

Foehammer2869d ago

The so called high price of Oculus ($200 more than Sony) comes with numerous application:

-VR on PC
-VR on Scorpio
-First Person Video for drone owners

Oculus is also the higher spec VR, so the demanding gamer will go for the better tech.

As for the price of a PC, didn't you spam on numerous articles that everyone and their neighbours dog is going to get a gaming rig....yes, just check you comment history. So everyone will have the power to use Oculus.

Didn't you say that PC tech would be much higher in 18 months...yes then a PC that runs Oculus will be reasonable.

Perhaps you should read the article...Oculus already has the better games.

By any chance is it you that have you been tweeting Xbox?

ApocalypseShadow2869d ago (Edited 2869d ago )

Sorry kid. You must think I'm someone else about spamming.I know PC will have more. But the masses recognize big games with big names like resident evil, batman, star wars, etc. Not going to sell oculus without media advertising. Also,oculus launched and it was a whimper of a release.

VR on PC doesn't help the current Xbox gamer.

VR on Scorpio doesn't help the current Xbox gamer.

Who cares about flying drones from oculus. How does that help current Xbox gamers?

Check my comment history. It will show you can't read names properly.

Aenea2868d ago

$599 is only in the US... Where I live I have to pay €699 + €70 shipping (that's $868 total).

It's double the price of PSVR which is €399 here. Also since I already have the Move controllers and the camera I don't need anything else where for the Rift I would need to buy those Touch controllers...

Kiwi662868d ago

Why can't it do well seeing as one is only on a gaming console the other is on pc , two different markets so how does psvr effect the pc market

kneon2868d ago (Edited 2868d ago )

@Foehammer

Having a PC, and having a PC capable of running VR are not the same thing. Even by NVidia's own estimates there are only something like 15 million VR capable PCs in the world. Now that will improve of course but for the next few years most people won't have a PC good enough for VR.

DiRtY2868d ago

You can't criticize Scorpio and Oculus but praise Neo and PSVR.

Scorpio ♏ > Neo
Oculus > PSVR.

And by quite a margin. If you want a really good VR experience on a console it will be scorpio and Oculus.

And don't get me started with PSVR on a regular PS4. There is a reason why Sony is releasing the neo. It's because the PS4 is not powerful enough to offer a great VR experience.

And this is not personal taste, this is a proven fact.

freshslicepizza2868d ago

so now it's about quantity over quality?

Aenea2868d ago (Edited 2868d ago )

@dirty
Proven fact huh? Okay, show me the proof!

I find it funny that the Scorpio, at this moment, only seems to exist on paper but yet it's going to be better than something else that isn't announced yet either! And you believe it will be by a huge margin!

As for the Rift being way, way better than PSVR, ehhh, in what way? Can you tell me? In the resolution? Head tracking? Controllers? Number of subpixels used? Screen Door Effect? Refresh rate? What??

And why do people keep claiming Sony is releasing the Neo for VR? Is the Scorpio just going to be released for VR? Sure without it an Xbox can't do it apparently but it's also for more than just VR.
People seem to forget that the PS4 is a teensy bit more powerful than the X1, hence why it can do the frame doubling, perhaps the X1 can't because of that, dunno. Maybe it's because PSVR was actually designed to work with the PS4 and vice versa that it works.
And yeah, if the PS4 would have to use the Rift as well I'm sure it would not work so well, but PSVR is not the Rift.

If the Neo is needed for VR they would not release PSVR first without even mentioning the Neo. Not even Sony is that stupid...

MachuchalBrotha3162868d ago

If that was the case they would have let PSVR launch first and see how it went. Oculus and PSVR was for two different groups to begin with. Stop crying if you cant afford the highest quality VR which is Vive and Oculus.

2cents2868d ago

Oculus success is not dependant on Sony doing well.

Oculus amd Vive are for serious tech savvy gamers who want the best.

PSVR is mainstream.

game4funz2868d ago

Well neither is the ps4
Unless you like. Throwing up

Death2868d ago

We wouldn't see Neo coming out this year if PS4 was actually capable of running PSVR. Your PSVR at $399 doesn't include the camera, motion controls or a Neo if you want it to work properly. PC is absolutely more money than a Neo, but you get much more with it. PSVR/Neo might outsell PC/VR, but the best experience will be on the higher priced option. You get what you pay for.

Goldby2868d ago

@death

You and so many others think the neo is for psvr. Where did that info come from. The ps4 can play psvr games fine the neo is playstations version of thr xbox oneS. All midgen upgrades have been media upgrades.
Ps2 had the dvd player in it. Ps3 had the blueray player and neo has the 4k blue ray player built in. The scorpio is next gen with 6tf. The neo has 4 yet you vant find info on what the Xbox OneS has. 2 years from now sony will release the ps5 wih most likely 10tf. And itll be ps3 era all over again. Ms brings out a console 1 year early to try and get more people to buy it, and instead of investing in their own games they buy tights to use pc games. So they are bringing your one pc into your living room. Sony on the other hand is bringing their playstation brand everywhere. They have ps now and ps vue built into every ps3. They have vue built into every ps3. That have ps now pn every sony and damsing tv. And there are alot more people buying tvs over gaming rigs.

Sony didnt make the ps4 neo for vr. Its simply to push their rk streaming and live tv through vue. Ps5 will be where all of our psvrs shine.

Some people just dont understand mid gen upgrades... Last time. Scorpio is xbox 2

Goldby2868d ago

@dirty.

Dont get you started on neo cuz you dont know what your talki g about.

Neo is the mid gen upgrade for sony like xbox one s is to ms.

Scorpio is next gen. Somy hasnt announced theus ps5 yet.

So while you buy te oculus for a pc that can barely handel it, ill play my psvr as of october and will be enjoying vr in my living room for the next year until scorpio gets a version of oculus.

A year agter that ps5 gets released with full supoort for best quality vr experience on console.

Neo is for 4k blue ray player. To help push their playstation vue. Its not about thr vr.

So u can look at your oculus while i play woth my vr this holiday

Yetter2868d ago

Its expensive but by that much considering the starting price for PSVR does not include the Camera or move controllers.

Really, the VR headset you lean towards probably just depends on the current platform you play on, PC or PS4

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ThyMasterDebater2869d ago

Yep, except no one is going to buy a scorpio if they have a pc so their goes most of those people and a bunch of xbox people considering a pc will still perform better than a mid range scorpio probably costing more than what a pc the same price would cost. Eh to confuse your consumers. here buy this new slim xbox, oh wait, we also have a new one coming out, or buy a pc, lol, what a shit message.

Foehammer2869d ago (Edited 2869d ago )

That's funny, because 90%+ of games ppl buy on console run on PC, yet every year 20m+ ppl run out and by the console version; COD.

Same for pretty much any multiplayer game.

Looks like ppl like playing on console.

But hey, you can prove me wrong when No Man's Sky comes out. I guess PC sales will rule according to you?

ThyMasterDebater2868d ago (Edited 2868d ago )

Yeah, but I didn't say that, you did. nice spin but no. Infact my point wasn't about software at all. I like how you just change the subject since you know you have no proof to retaliate with.

My point wasn't about how much software they sell, That is 2 different things. People buy software for their respected platform typically, When people buy multiply plat games they will either buy for what platform their friends are buying it for or buying on or the higher spec machine. Typically consoles are cheaper to do so they drive sales because they are easier to manage and obtain, But this won't be the case for Scorpio since it will be a mid range pc probably priced at 499 which is about the price of a starting pc rig and since people also get the exclusives and a bunch of other features on a pc that it probably won't have out of the gate.. it's obvious what they would choose. So again, I understand how software sales work, but we are talking about price point for hardware. I never even made the assertion pc sales rule lol,

Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth and change my point.. but they are to different things and once again you fail. Either way,

You ever wonder why you never really have many upvotes? Its mostly because everyone can see through your bullshit.. oh and when no mans sky does come out.. I guess you'll have to pick it up on pc cause we all know dam well you don't have a ps4.

Also, PC sales for the first time took over for total market share sales this year, This is why Microsoft is heading in this direction.. To capitalize on that since they can't move in the console space. Scorpio is their catalyst.. that won't ship for 15 months..

Nice try ass hat, Cheers.

BossBattle2868d ago

I have a badass desktop pc with a Titan X, corsair water cooling kit, 32 GB dominator RAM, 4790k i7 devil canyons processor, asus maximus vi extreme motherboard, 5 noiseless fans, 1 tb internal ssd with OS on it, 1tb internal standard hd, and corsair 1000 watt power supply but I'm getting the Scorpio day one. I just prefer gaming on consoles over pc. My pc is for editing music and videos only. I'm not even considering gaming on my pc. Hardcore gamers are on consoles also.

Bigpappy2868d ago

Lol at no one will buy the monster. You better pray Sony has their own monster. VR is far from hot at the moment. Let's see how this all plays out. I can tell you that the Monster will sell to Gamers who are ready for 4k on their TVs. It also will run 1080p games with full textures and superior frame rates. I know many Xbox gamers are willing to upgrade for all of this perks. Everybody wants to own a monster.

MachuchalBrotha3162868d ago

Yeah but PC gamers aren't the only consumers...lol

freshslicepizza2868d ago

@ThyMasterDebater

you are talking double talk. on one hand you say nobody is going to buy scorpio (which has you guys working overtime to denounce it which is ironic) because most people have a pc that can perform just as well? sure whatever, lets go with this. but now you retract on what people support the ps4 for and say its about what their friends play on and what they prefer as a platform? huh???

you have no idea what a comparable pc will cost when scorpio arrives because its 18 months from now, just like you don't know what scorpio will cost. the point is you guys want to have your cake and eat it too. you want this to be about the ps4/pc combo to go against project scorpio. that in a nutshell is probably at least a $1,000 investment to buy a ps4 and a pc that can do 4k gaming even in 18 months from now. that's quite a compliment to scorpio which i seriously doubt will be anything to that price range.

what is even more funny is how all these ps4 gamers have comparable scorpio specced out pc's. so what doe sthat mean, the majority of ps4 owners buy all their game son their more powerful pc or is this about paying for psn plus so that they can play with their friends? lol, you guys make a lot of sense.

Yetter2868d ago

I'm buying a Scorpio and I have a great PC. Buy a game once and play on any platform is great value for anyone who lives with someone else and shares consoles, TVs and PCs (Like most of the people on this planet)

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Sunny_D2868d ago

Let me guess, you didn't care for VR until MS got on board with it? Lmao

Aenea2868d ago

Meh, the Rift is almost twice the price of PSVR where I live. Plus I don't need to wait for the Scorpio to use it on a console and/or don't need to invest heavily into a new PC (I will maybe in one or two years time, but now now) if I want to use it now.

Am sure if those VR games that are coming/out for the Rift are any good they will become available for PSVR as well, as a developer you would be crazy to let that go if the PSVR sells well...

Some might need to be downgraded to be able to run on the PS4, but I doubt they need to be on the Neo...

As for quality over quantity, that is kinda funny, since I've read some articles that nothing is stopping you from making your VR game for the Rift while on PSVR it's not so easy, hence they believe that more quality content is coming for the PSVR. Weird that...

ShottyatLaw2868d ago

Unfortunately, that Facebook money is going towards a lot of money-hatting right now. You can't even fault the devs too much, either. It's a brand new, unknown market with a small install base across the board. Many are going to take the check and sign exclusivity agreements.

I expect it's going to get very ugly in the VR exclusive arena -- far worse than we've seen from Sony and MS in the console space the last couple of decades.

killer_goat2868d ago

Give over trollhammer. Stop tryin to convince yourself

BABY-JEDI2868d ago

Never knew all games on Oculus are qualitative? Propaganda maybe? I believe all headsets & software will have something for all gamers into VR. I just hope that people will cut the BS out. I personally cannot wait to play Resi VII & Eve Valk 😉

Yourmommasaid2868d ago

Oh man! A lot of Xbox fans are salty mainly because Sony dominated the E3 press conferences, which makes Microsoft's forgettable.

Zeref2868d ago

The Sony conference was better but Microsofts conference was FAR from forgettable. They actually confirmed a 6tflops console is incoming. 6tflops is more powerful than most gaming rigs today. When Scorpio comes out it will be like it used to be back in the days when consoles were more powerful than most PCs

Yourmommasaid2867d ago

There's no denying your point! But compared to Sony's conference, Microsoft's is not what the people are talking about.

Zeref2868d ago

Hopefully oculus will drop in price next year.

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Genuine-User2868d ago (Edited 2868d ago )

You know a person is an obsessive fanboy when they try and shove their box of choice in an article about Oculus Rift and PS VR.

Just look at the first comment. smh

game4funz2868d ago

True. It's weird how many people are complaining about choices.. MS has. Given gamers lots of hardware to choose from but somehow that's bad for Gamers.

And VR will. Not work. Well. If the console can't achieve 120fps and that's still up in the air with ps4 neo

Aenea2868d ago

Funny, the Rift and Vive can't even handle 120fps, they do 90 max.... PSVR can do 120fps tho, does this mean the Rift and Vive are dead in the water?

Don't be crazy. I love all these armchair experts who already know that Scorpio will be beast console and do VR right and that the Neo is needed for VR and now that even the Neo might not be up to task, it's hilarious and a little sad.

Ah well, do what you must, I will be enjoying my PSVR on October 13!

agame9142867d ago

um PSVR works great on original PS4.......

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 4h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle15h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188112h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio12h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218314h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga13h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10117h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos17h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac16h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic14h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 13h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 10h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 9h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 9h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 6h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 8h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 8h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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