Don’t Get an Xbox One Scorpio if You Don’t Have a 4K TV

The Xbox One Scorpio will truly be a powerful gaming machine; however, to get the most out of it, you will need a 4K TV.

That’s right, Scorpio is aimed at hardcore gamers with a lot of money to spend. Are you one? Will you get the upgraded console?

[ToxicSushi]

Rubbish! How did this crap title get approved! Phil is even quoted in the article stating: Clearly, you can buy Scorpio, and if and when you decide you want to buy a 4K television to take advantage of the increased performance, obviously the console will be ready for you. Also mentioned in other interviews is that Scorpio games can also be targeted for 1080p.

[emawk]

That's not the point.

Why buy something so expensive if you don't intend to use for what it was designed for?

[vegasgamerdawg]

No, you missed the point by a mile. He said you can still benefit, THAT'S WHY! Also, expensive is subjective, you're poor doesn't mean everybody else is. You live in a bubble. By the way, I'm glad you already know the future prices. Care to share, we call all be rich, you're so smart you know the future...lol , you think you're that smart...lol

[thrust]

How expensive is it????

[Sitdown]

1) It's not they expensive. 2) It's called preparing future proofing.

[Gamingisfornerds]

It all depends on how this will take shape. If the only difference between XBONE and XBOS games will be the 4k resolution, then yes, it'll be pointless without a 4k TV. However, if games are being targeted at 1080 resolution with added FX + better performance on the XBOS, then a 4K TV adds nothing..

So, I'm very curious what direction the developers will take, or will be pushed for. My guess: 4k resolution to push 4K TV's. Plus, I think it's easier to just make 1 version of the game and up the resolution for XBOS, rather than adjusting all kinds of other parameters to suit either XBONE/XBOS.

Ideally, you'd be given to choice between 2 modes: '4k mode' or '1080p + added fx mode' on XBOS (and obviously won't have this option on XBONE).

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

It got approved because N4G is a pro Sony site and anything that reflects MS in a negative light gets approved. I would love to see a article get approved telling people not to buy a Neo but I seriously doubt that would happen On this site.

[TheCommentator]

The article's headline alone is way off base. Phil already said not to think of the device as a 4K Xbox, because it's up to developers to decide if they want the higher resolution of 4k or better quality pixels in 1080p.

[subtenko]

and then we'll all be upset when Xbox Two is announced 2 years later.

[Lennoxb63]

Just like on PC, there will likely be an option to run at 1080p. They wouldn't do themselves any favors if it was 4k only. They'd turn off lots of potential buyers. You can just just that power and increase textures, AA, DoF, AF, lighting, etc.

Whoever wrote this article clearly has no technical knowledge.

[ShadowKnight]

This console is really build for 4K resolution and content

[Lennoxb63]

You don't know what you're talking about. If you take it down to 1080p you can use the available energy to increase different graphics, AA, and lighting settings. You'll definitely see it in 1080p.

[jessionpc]

What a shame... The fact and absolute truth is this:

Graphics are not currently advanced enough that we should be focusing on 4k, over fidelity.

1080p gives a beautiful picture, and until our games can drop painted grass on the ground, "even Uncharted 4 has green colored polygon hills", there is no point to going 4k...

Other than trying to push it as a buzz word like the tv industry has for the past half a decade...

Oh well... At least the image will be much clearer... Still woulda took 60 fps over 4k any day of the week tho. <- a 4k pc gaming using.

[thrust]

Someone not played 4K gaming by the sounds of it lol

[conanlifts]

4k gaming does look very nice though and that's without hdr. But i do partly agree. There is too much focus on resolution and not enough on assetts and graphics.
I am also skeptical as to whether a 6 tflop console can do 4k 60fps in future games.

[Paytaa]

I don't have a 4K TV and the Scorpio isn't only targeting 4K televisions. The specs that we know of are pretty sick in my opinion and I'm most likely going to buy one at launch since it's slated for Holiday 2017 which gives me time to save up.

This generation has been decent so far but one thing that sticks out is the fact that it isn't THAT much of a leap from last gen in comparison to the leap we saw from say an OG Xbox to a 360 or PS2 to PS3.

If the Scorpio is truly pushing 4.5x the power of the Xbox One, that's freaking awesome.

I cannot wait to see what Halo 6 does with all that extra baggage in the Scorpio. That's something I'm really looking forward to.

[ShadowKnight]

I cannot wait to see what it does on the PC. When Halo 6 come out it will be new and powerful GPUs available by that time.

[Foehammer]

Yes

Just like Halo 3, Halo 6 will set a sales numbers for MS that can't be matched.

The biggest game of 2017

Perhaps a "Halo Reach" remaster in 4k, then Halo 6 then.

Either way, it will be GINORMOUS.

[ShadowKnight]

@Foehammer I didn't know Halo 6 was coming out next year? Halo 5 hasn't been out a year yet. Did Microsoft announce Halo 6?

[Finch]

Its way over a year away. Save for a new 4k TV and then the Scorpio. Even if you late on getting Scorpio you will be happy with a new 4k tv until you save up for the Scorpio.

[iliimaster]

its an investment of course id get an xbox scorpio if i didint have a 4k tv yet because eventually i will which one will be first/ idk

[Yetter]

4K TVs aren't particularly 'a lot of money' anymore. Gonna be even cheaper next year

[Fin_The_Human]

If people can't afford $350.00 for a 4K TV then gaming should find a different hobbie.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/S...

[Playable_Gamez]

Didn't Phil already debunk this crap and it got approved? Haha. The mods on N4Sony is just hilarious.

[IIFloodyII]

He's debunked it, debunked that and then debunked it again, what the Scorpio does is changing with every interview he gives, they say it'll have exclusives, then say it won't, will only benefit from being on a 4K TV, then say it won't, say it'll only play Xbox One games at higher res, then say it's up to the devs what they want to do with the power.

They announced it way before it was ready, so they don't really know what it will and won't do yet, it's probably best we just wait for it to be fully announced next year, they'll have a much better idea at what it will be.

edit: @Playable_Gamez
They said it in an interview after the show.
http://www.gamespot.com/art...
They were quick to take it back though.

Edit:
@Yetter
He's been just as confusing, I'm just going to pretend they haven't said anything on the Scorpio and wait for them to fully reveal it, it's easier that way. And I said they were quick to take it back, thanks for saying exactly what I said, back to me.

[Playable_Gamez]

I didn't hear about exclusives. Can you cite that claim?

[ShadowKnight]

Lol it's confusing huh. It will have the same exclusives as the regular Xbox one and that's it.

[Yetter]

Thats not Phil Spencer. When it comes to messaging, I'll stick with the head of xbox

EDIT:
wait this was posted in the same article when Gamespot reached out for clarification

"All of your Xbox One games and accessories are compatible across all Xbox One family of products, including Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Project Scorpio," a Microsoft representative said.

Just like Phil has said over and over and over again

[Lon3wolf]

A lot of money, 4k TV's are cheap.

[Artemidorus]

I still don't feel the need for 4K yet until we change a whole generation and they all require it.

[Foehammer]

Kinda like VR then

[Artemidorus]

Same with VR I've said in the early days it's a gimmick.

[quent]

People also by more powerful hardware for better/stable framerate, even with gpu's advertised at running 4K, most gamers scale down the res in favor of higher quality in game settings and better SSAA options.

[Steptoe]

So unless you have a 4k tv Scorpio does nothing for games. It will play them the same the xb1 does. That sounds pathetic if true.

[dms5223]

Good thing it isn't.

[Steptoe]

Well they should get their message across better. It does seem thats what they're saying.

[OneLove]

Got me a sweet 50 inch 4K for 500.

[Srelhow]

For all you saying 4k is so awesome............NOT AT 30 FPS its not. 30 FPS SHOULD BE A THING OF THE PAST
1080p 60 FPS has not yet been achieved as a standard for consoles. As a standard I mean every game all the time. Don't get me wrong 4k is gorgeous but 4k 30 FPS has same problem as what we have today SLOW & CHOPPY. Nothing like playing a good open world game that gets choppy as hell every time you turn and look somewhere. Being able to see things smoothly as the camera pans and moves gives you more ability to see and react to what your doing in your game. Guess my point is a crystal clear video game is amazing, but if its not smooth and it gets choppy whats the point.

Wow look at these amazing immersive graphics. Its soooo real looking I don't even care that its not smooth at all I love it.............

[shaun mcwayne]

When I first got the xbox 360 I didnt have a hdtv, I bought it the day Dead Rising 1 came out, while playing I realised I couldnt read the small text onscreen. Got a hdtv just after. Did anyone else get a hd console before hdtv. Also the first xbox 360s if i remember right, didnt come with hdmi cable, it was the red white yellow one. my point is, buy what you want.

[cyber_daemonx]

Wont be getting one full stop lol.

[WOLFofWALLSTREET]

The never ending cycle - what would of happened if that Xbox One was more successful with more games? Probably would have just announced the Xbox S for now and stayed quiet with the Scorpio. Instead they are giving Sony another chance to counter them with a even more powerful console against the Scorpio. They need to focus on making better games.

[Foehammer]

I think it boils down to MS research

Phil said gamers told them what they wanted

MS is delivering on both fronts

Just like:

Dell...more than 1 option
iPhone..more than 1 option
Samsung tvs..more than 1 option

the list goes on forever, look around you where ever you are now and tell me what product didn't have options?

Rugs
Desks
light fixtures
watches

on and on

[WOLFofWALLSTREET]

Ya, true, just a little frustrated I guess.

[Sweendog007]

People can get the machine if they want , it's not about needing a 4K to to buy that machine. The machine will benift some 1080 HD games and allow the use of VR games , and even 3D , that's down to the developers , so if people want to play 4K , you need a 4K tv , just like you need a blu Ray player to play blu Rays ... But if you want the consol for VR only then it's a great consol for you

It's aimed at high users with ever need not just 4K people

[Stapleface]

Has no one on this site ever heard of downscaling? You don't need a 4k tv to run 4k content and benefit from the improved visual quality. If your display will support the resolution, your fine.

[Stapleface]

I normally don't care about disagrees. But man I wish the person would say how they disagree with an absolute fact on this one.

[XBManiac]

Don't buy a GEFORCE GTX 1080 if you don't have a 4K panel. LoL

[Many-hat5]

Clearly, Scorpio's specs are designed to meet two specific objectives - proper 4K gaming, and high quality VR gaming. That is the primary reason for buying this hardware. However, Scorpio's power will not be limited to only those two features. And any suggestion to the contrary is nonsense, in my opinion. MS has made a bold move, and for once I also thinks it's a good move. Day one purchase for me, but I will still want to keep my PC and PS4. Honestly though, I believe that once VR takes off, and it will,6TFLOPS will be quite minimal. For a long time now people have asked for more powerful consoles to compete with PC's -here it is! 4K TV's ? Come on. Within two years we'll all have them, simply not an issue.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Jesus, the down play lately is ridiculous. Let I go. Its clear you don't NEED a 4k tv to see the difference. The VR, HDR, and ability to play more elaborate games at a constant 1080p 60fps are all reasons right off the top to get one....i love how the goalposts have shifted now.

[JasonKCK]

false

[mrkbizzle]

Haha another spin articles, nice try n4g, u won't e able to use this strategy to sell shit soon, good job trying to lure ppl away from the truth, ppl know these patterns already so fu

[andrewsquall]

And don't get an Xbone if you have a 1080p TV if that is the case, get a PS4.