Nintendo's E3 Schedule Projects Another Disappointing Show

TCC: Could Zelda save Nintendo from a lackluster showing this year?

[pcz]

no, nothing can save nintendo at e3, not even zelda. we have already seen zelda, its nothing new.

e3 should be for surprises. oh wow, a new zelda trailer, a game thats been shown at e3 what feels like the last 5 years

[RPGrinder]

Zelda will most likely be game of the show. The Treehouse streams? Some of the most watched content at E3. We saw this last year and the year before.

[WeAreLegion]

Game of the show? Really? It'll be a good game, I'm sure, but that's seriously doubtful.

[RPGrinder]

Game Informer, IGN, Usgamer, Gamespot, ect are already clamoring that it will be. Journalists have already confirmed that the Zelda demo/booth is already going to be booked solid and likely the most popular spot at E3.

[Lonnie18]

Listen up Nintendo fans and listen good! I don't care how many self-published games Nintendo has done this year because it still amounts to zero in my book. When a company can't get the trust of other 3rd party companies or indie developers without paying up front then there is a problem. A problem that has grown with the company called Nintendo throughout the years and continues to weigh and slow it down. Even after all the problems they have gone through they continue to take away from it's fans with little to no game releases, little to no .communcation, and worst of all they just won't humble themselfs sigh... However know this, with the failed release of the NX they will be brought to eye level and make new games, they will then make efforts to understand our culture and our ideas. It's coming...it's been a long time coming but it comes just the same!

[The 10th Rider]

Zelda Wii U/NX has been shown at E3 exactly once, with a tiny snippet of 'in-engine' footage. So no, you're wrong.

That being said, Nintendo just isn't going to have a great showing this year. They're gearing for the NX and it's unlikely they have any big surprises left for Wii U. Since they're not announcing the NX yet, It's going to be a very light year for them. Zelda will likely be impressive and amazing, but other than that and Pokemon Sun/Moon/Go, Nintendo will barely be there.

[Lonnie18]

That's the thing and I'm glad you said it Zelda is not new and should already be out on the Wii U! Nintendo just delayed it so they could use it as a launch title but by doing so they screwed over so many gamers. It's just Mario, Zelda, and Pokomon all the time. Of course the hardcore Nintendo fan will say but what about that kiddie game Splattoon lol...I will never let Nintendo play with my feelings so I don't buy their stuff...

[RPGrinder]

Fire Emblem and Xenoblade are kiddie? LOL

"Nintendo just delayed it so they could use it as a launch title but by doing so they screwed over so many gamers." Factless

" It's just Mario, Zelda, and Pokomon all the time."

Yeah lets ignore Kirby, Rythem heaven, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade x, Splatoon and other games from the last 12 months.

" that kiddie game Splattoon lol" You mean the highest selling console exclusive of this gen?

@Sono4215

Splatoon is closing in on 6 mil. Do not call me out if you do not have a clue.

[The 10th Rider]

That kiddie game 'Splattoon' won many awards for best shooter and best multiplayer game last year. I suppose you'd rather go back to playing Battlefield Hardline, Battlefront, Call of Duty, etc...?

Also, if you think "It's just Mario, Zelda, and Pokomon all the time" you clearly haven't taken a look at the 3DS library.

The only console Zelda game yet that wasn't unique and different was Twilight Princess—which was in many ways similar to an updated, more mature Ocarina of Time.

[Sono421]

RPGrinder... while I do agree that Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon aren't all Nintendo puts out.. I will have to disagree (because of facts) about Splatoon being the highest selling exclusive of this gen... because it simply is not. Not only does it not take the #1 spot now... but Uncharted 4 sold 2.7 Million copies in it's first week... Splatoon just hit 4 Million in febuary.. when it came out last May... it isn't doing anything too impressive in terms of sales so the fact that you even tried to pass it off as the highest selling exclusive this gen is pretty idiotic.

[KaladinStormblessed]

Umm none of the other developers have any big surprises coming around, majority of the games they announced at last years E3 haven't even released yet, so expect more of those. They've released their schedule, and doesn't look all that promising either.

I mean sure we'll be soooo "excited" to see the next Just Dance. All we see are sequels to mediocre games like Titanfall, not to mention the showing just to talk about new Destiny DLC?

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

We've seen a small preview of Zelda.

That only qualifies as having "seen" it in the most barren and shallow sense of the term, especially considering that was early development footage and they've made changes since.

There's more than likely going to be PLENTY of surprises in the new Zelda to see and enjoy.
Then there's also Pokemon, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and other games to see more details of during the Treehouse, in addition to any surprises they've been keeping in check.[No one saw Bayonetta 2 coming. That wasn't even listed as "a surprise" at any point. They've done things like that before, they can do it again.]

You really need to stop coming onto articles dedicated to a company you have a rabid hatred for.

[superchiller]

It really seems like Nintendo is running scared these days, with all the new gaming products coming out later this year and next year (Oculus Rift, PSVR, Vive, Neo, Scorpio, etc). Nintendo just seems to be lost right now, in terms of their future gaming platforms.

[RPGrinder]

Nintendo has released more games than Sony and Microsoft combined this year. They also have a game in Pokemon Sun/Moon that will outsell any software MS or Sony put out. Yeah, running scared lol. Hell most people think Sony and MS are out of their minds with Neo and Scorpio.

@Naji
Xenoblade X, Splatoon, Mario 3d world, Yoshi's wolly world, Kirby, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Captain Toad, Pokken, Twilight HD/Windwaker HD ect were not up to snuff? Funny how you ignore 90% of the Wii U library. Wii U's first party output has been as good. Funny how you ignore 3DS too.

@Christopher

Statement one of more is fact. MS and Sony combined have not published 10+ games this year already like Nintendo has. Nintendo for the last 10 years has brought in more revenue from the game division than Sony or MS. This is the first year in many years since Sony made more Money than Nintendo from the game division.

[naji2004]

Nintendo latest Wii U releases lately were not up to Nintendo's old days Snes, N64, GameCube standards. games like Mario Tennis are considered gimics and missing lots of contents, Starfox 0 is GameCube Quality graphics with very hard controls, and the two Zelda's are remasters of 1996 games etc. I wish Nintendo's finds it's true path soon though.

[Christopher]

Well, #1, your statement of "more" is false. #2, the problem is the console is currently really just for those games you can't get anywhere else while MS and Sony get tons of revenue from third-party developers. More so from them than Nintendo gets all together on the Wiiu.

[pcz]

i agree, nintendo are becoming less and less competitive.

zelda wiiu could possibly be the game of the show, but im personally looking for more than zelda. i want variety, i want choice. nintendo arent offering that.

the consequence will naturally be that people, including myself will look elsewhere for the experiences that nintendo arent providing. ie, people will become interested in what sony and microsoft have to show.

its a big problem for nintendo, but one they dont seem to care about, which is worrying.

and as you said, on top of the wealth of software, sony/micro also have their VR technology coming, ALONG with upgraded versions of their hardware.. they are being extremely competitive.

e3 would have been the perfect oppertunity for nintendo to reassure fans and potential customers that nintendo has a lot to offer... instead, they devote the show to one single game...

[Zeldafan64]

Nintendo for the most part don't like to show off a game until it's within less than a year before release. The only exceptions are Zelda, Xenoblade X, Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Bayonetta 2. 4 games they showed or just said were in development way early. How many games did Sony show last E3 that won't be out before 2017? Games early in development were most of what Sony showed last year. Nintendo has several dev teams that have been working on almost assuredly big games for at least 2 and a half years and I'm pretty much certain those games will all be released within the first year of the NX's life. Nintendo will have AT LEAST 5 big first party titles released by the end of next year on NX.

[AKR]

Considering Nintendo has been keeping all of their major announcements under lock-and-key, I don't see how they come off as "seeming lost".

The level of melancholy seems to increase daily on this site.

[RPGrinder]

I think the show is going to be rather great. There will be surprises.

Zelda, Pokemon, Tokyo Mirage, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, these games are must buys to me and guess what? They are actually scheduled to be released. Nintendo has released more games this year than any publisher. I am extremely happy with Nintendo as a software purchaser this year.

I am really looking forward to the treehouse. That is the reason most think they won E3 2014. They are likable people who I enjoy watching play games. The games appeal to me.

"As we speak, Sony Corp. (ADR) (NYSE:SNE) and Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) are preparing groundbreaking announcements that will become the highlights of this year’s E3. Both giants are rumored to announce new hardware in the form of upgraded console and slim revisions."

All you need to know about this article. Did not even do research to realize that both are not showing new hardware either Just another factless Nintendo slam piece. Do not open it to give them hits.

[WeAreLegion]

Disappointing? They're not even doing a conference. What's to be disappointed about?

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, I'm a Nintendo fan and I recognize they're barely going to be there this year. 90 minutes of Zelda should be awesome, though. I don't have high expectations outside of some Zelda info, so as long as we get that I guess I'm content.

I support their decision to focus development on the NX, which is what's causing their light E3 this year... But whatever event they announce that at, they'd better not screw it up.

[pcz]

im going to be honest, i want to see as little of the new zelda as possible. i dont like to ruin new zelda games with spoilers, and a 90 min demo sounds like a game ruining play through for a spectating fan.

i will most likely watch the new trailer, and read the write ups- im not interested in seeing somebody play a game at length that i want to be a fresh and new experience.

of course im excited for the NX, but after what has largely been a farce of a generation with the wiiu, i have naturally lost faith in nintendo's ability to deliver something that is actually worth buying.

so yes, im excited, but im sceptical.

[Lonnie18]

Yep that's Nintendo for you, they really are such a pain, no communcation, no games, and no respect to their few handful of fans that are even left! They just won't comply and get with the times, I've never seen such a stubborn company!

[RPGrinder]

No games? They have released more games than any other publisher this year. If that is no games than what is everyone else?

No respect for fans? Is that why they are going out of their way to make sure people can play the Zelda demo and stream for hours? Is that why they went out of their way to make sure Fire Emblem was fully stocked? Yeah, all talk, no evidence or truth.

Edit:
"Also no they didn't release more games than any other publisher...talk about delusional!"

Up through June: Tokyo Mirage, Kirby, Bravely Second, Pokken, Star Fox, Pokken, Fire Emblem, Hyrule Legends, bravely second, and more? No other publisher so far has released 10 games. That is a fact.

@Christopher

Sony has not publiched 8 games this year. The fact that you could not list them like I did speaks volumes. Microsoft has not even published 4..........

Nintendo has a larger overall gaming market share than Microsoft does, and pretty close to Sony's including 3DS.

[Christopher]

You should realize that they have to self-publish More games just to get them on WiiU. Other consoles have a market share that doesn't require as much self-publishing because third-party publishers back the games more or Indie Developers self-publish.

So, having said that, for Sony, they've published 8 games so far this year with 10 more planned for the year. Microsoft has published 4 games so far with 6 more games planned. All of that and both have a larger market share and a TON more third-party and Indie support.

[Lonnie18]

...and looks like the Nintendo fans won't comply with the disagrees I recieved, shame neither Nintendo or it's fans get it! Also no they didn't release more games than any other publisher...talk about delusional!

[KaladinStormblessed]

Actually they have...name one developer other than Nintendo that has output more than 10 games in 2016, and name the games.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

You're the one who's delusional; you're saying they've got "no games" because you've been sucking up to third parties so long that you've begun automatically writing off anything Nintendo's internal studios release.

You've been downplaying literally every game announced to be shown at the show as "not a big deal" just because you've seen glimpses of them before.
While in the same breath showing hype for games coming from every other company that are just as easily predicted, and many of which have had either rumors or footage/teasers circulating.

You're just a Nintendo hater, twice as stubborn about your refusal to admit that Nintendo ever does anything good or ever has any games coming out that cater to your narrow little tastes.
Sit down.

[Jburr94]

Snooze fest incoming

[Austin48]

Nintendo to me has lost touch.

[RPGrinder]

Nintendo has Zelda, Pokemon Sun/Moon, Pokemon Go, Dragon Quest, Rhythm Heaven, Paper Mario, Monster Hunter + surprises. The treehouse is usually one of the most watched streams of E3.

Like it or not Zelda is going to be a stunner and will likely have the most packed booth like they had last year, and Pokemon is going to sell more than any game this year, so it is not like people are uninterested in Nintendo's output this E3.

You add that on top of what they have already released like Bravely Second, Fire Emblem, Twilight Princess HD, Pokken, Star Fox, Paper Jam, Kirby, Tokyo Mirage and it is a great software year.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

To be perfectly fair, Bravely Second was exclusive, but it was still a Square-Enix game.
I take your point, though.

[Lonnie18]

Listen up Nintendo fans and listen good! I don't care how many self-published games Nintendo has done this year because it still amounts to zero in my book. When a company can't get the trust of other 3rd party companies or indie developers without paying up front then there is a problem. A problem that has grown with the company called Nintendo throughout the years and continues to weigh and slow it down. Even after all the problems they have gone through they continue to take away from it's fans with little to no game releases, little to no communcation, and worst of all they just won't humble themselfs sigh... However know this, with the failed release of the NX they will be brought to eye level and make new games, they will then make efforts to understand our culture and our ideas. It's coming...it's been a long time coming but it comes just the same!

[Relientk77]

Zelda alone will be better than Nintendos last E3

[KaladinStormblessed]

Well considering that they're not even having a life showing, what's there to be disappointed about? We've known for months that e3 is all about Zelda for them. I'm looking forward to it as I'm a huge Zelda fan. They also have plenty of other games to show during the treehouse stream.

Don't go in to it expecting an NX reveal or new FZero or Metroid or something and you'll have a good time. Unless of course you're a Ninty hater spouting your "facts" on every Nintendo related article.

[Dario_DC]

Nintendo is irrelevant, they're really out of touch with today's gamers.
This, IMO, is the last home console for Nintendo.
Besides delusional fanboys no one cares about Nintendo at all.

[Zeldafan64]

You can say that as many times as you like but that doesn't mean it's true. People are only ever overly negative about something when they're trying to push an agenda. You just WANT people to think that Nintendo is irrelevant and you think that saying it enough times will make it so. You effectively want people to be brainwashed. You don't want people to think for themselves and that is disturbing.

[Dario_DC]

I have no agenda and all I said is my opinion. I really don't care about Nintendo, never did.
I was a Sega guy back then, never liked Nintendo IPs, still don't, but I understood Nintendo's place in the home console market, nowadays I don't think they have one. They're stuck in the past, refuse to get with the times, don't listen to Devs or even the community and that arrogance is gonna be the end for the Nintendo home console.

[Lonnie18]

Listen up Nintendo fans and listen good! I don't care how many self-published games Nintendo has done this year because it still amounts to zero in my book. When a company can't get the trust of other 3rd party companies or indie developers without paying up front then there is a problem. A problem that has grown with the company called Nintendo throughout the years and continues to weigh and slow it down. Even after all the problems they have gone through they continue to take away from it's fans with little to no game releases, little to no communcation, and worst of all they just won't humble themselfs sigh... However know this, with the failed release of the NX they will be brought to eye level and make new games, they will then make efforts to understand our culture and our ideas. It's coming...it's been a long time coming but it comes just the same!

[Zeldafan64]

If you have no agenda then why are you acting like you speak for everyone? The second part of your first sentence "they're really out of touch with today's gamers." is a very arrogant thing to say. Don't act like you speak on other peoples' behalf. There is nothing you can say to defend what you said. Also, insulting people in your last sentence is incredibly immature. Are you saying that you can insult people however you want and that's all right? That's messed up. It seems to me you have the emotional maturity of a 5 year old.
If Nintendo is irrelevant to you that's fine, but don't ever act like everyone else has to feel the same way as you. Answer me this, why are you so overly negative then? I get being critical but you go way beyond that and I would like to know why. This isn't a life or death situation and it doesn't warrant the extreme vitriol I see in your and other peoples' comments ALL THE TIME on this site.

[Dario_DC]

You're using the victim card to protect Nintendo? LOL the big N doesn't need you to do that buddy.
I speak for myself but IT IS the general(mostly) opinion when it comes to Nintendo's home consoles.

Nintendo IS out of touch with todays gamers, 3rd party developers and even MEDIA!
Gamers DON'T buy Nintendo home consoles! Sales prove it!
3rd Party Developers DON'T make games for Nintendo home consoles! Lack of 3rd party games prove it!
The Media doesn't bother with Nintendo most of the time and if we talk about BIG Youtubers, Nintendo is more than DEAD to them! Lack of videos and coverage prove it!

Nintendo Fanboys are delusional! The ammount of crap they make up to justify their purchase/preference is ridiculous and sad! 7 months gaming DROUGHTS are inexcusable! This can be applied to most FANBOYS.

Can I be more positive? Sure, we all can, I just don't see any reason to do so when it comes to the big N.
I'm not here to convince anyone, specially not someone named Zeldafan64, your name says all I need to know.
This is an open forum we are all free to express our opinions. I for one will never damage control for these companies.

[Mikhal5569]

People have the right to their opinion, but I really wish people would stfu about how disappointed or pissed they are with Nintendo. Some people like myself are thrilled that they're showing a new Zelda game and really don't care if they show little to nothing else. If you don't like it, do not buy it. You're crying and whinning will not change things. At this point you all sound like bunch of entitled trolls. Nintendo does not owe you squat
Get that through your heads.

[Zeldafan64]

The only logical conclusion that I can come to is that people are paid to troll comments sections in Nintendo articles. I know that sounds like paranoia but I've spent so much time over the last few years reading Nintendo news and seeing such OVERWHELMING negativity not only in comments sections but in 'articles' as well that I can't see any other explanation for it that makes sense.

[Mikhal5569]

Idk brother. I think people really think that complaining is actually going to change the way a company does business. If you really are dissatisfied with a company don't give them your money. THAN I guarantee they'll start listening.

As for all the negativity towards Nintendo, I agree it's gotten out of hand. It seem to start with the GameCube and escalated with the Wii then WiiU. If you don't like the direction a company is going that's fine that's your right. I just wish people wouldn't try to ruin it for the people who ARE enjoying the product.