I (Robin Ek, TGG) didn´t know that the Western version of Atlus "Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE" art book had been censored in the West. Well, that seems to be the case, I´m afraid. So this is my take on that matter
Even censoring and butchering artbooks now. A new and pathetic low.
It´s beyond insane :S
I wonder what they will censor next? As there seem to be no limits in their mind when it comes to censorship...
Only Nintendo´s and Atlus own imagination will set the limits for what´s going to be censored next.
All of the censorship this game is receiving has killed my interest in it as anything other than a rental. Sad too because I was really excited for the game.
This is messed up...So I take it that we have to import art books as well now? (you know, to avoid censorship in the West?).
I´ve already seen jokes about it on Twitter, so my advice would be that you (and others) start to learn Japanese. Then import everything directly from Japan.
Man I am sick of this garbage. Why's the game rated T? Teens can't handle cleavage and bathing suits? Why even go to that effort to remove artistic freedom? Seriously, Nintendo WTF do you actually think will happen if you leave cleavage in your game? I'll tell you what, absolutely nothing you idiots! Anybody who is already interested in this game is going to buy it and even if they weren't I doubt they'll base not wanting it off the cleavage. You treat your consumers like babies. Oh no SJWs are so against female objectification and tropes in games that we better cover up this cleavage that magically makes the character different somehow and those SJWs will instantly want to buy the game. I'm sorry, I never thought I'd say this but I think the industry would be better off without Nintendo as a publisher. I really doubt this level of censorship would be seen on any other platform.
And to think I wanted a mature title from them smh ;)
what's interesting is they gave us Bayonetta...but then they censor Fatal Frame, Fire Emblem, and this.
Why are you singling Nintendo out? They aren't the only ones that censor japanese games when they localise them. In fact, plenty of other companies do the same. Also, do you know for a fact that it was Nintendo who censored this game, and not Atlus themselves? You said it yourself: if Nintendo, as a company, were so prudish as people make them out to be... how do they explain them funding and publishing Bayonetta 2? Heck, even Hyrule Warriors has a lot of cleavage, and that's a game that handles the Zelda license, and Nintendo was fine with that...
Yea I'm pretty sure it's Nintendo of America censoring these games. They seem to be the worst offenders consistently. Bravely Second, Fatal Frame, Xenoblades Chronicles X, Fire Emblem, Tokyo Mirage Sessions. There's no rhyme or reason except to keep a family friendly image that Nintendo seems to aim for. God forbid a T rated or M rated game have a little sex appeal on their console. Gotta attract more people that could care less about the game I guess...
I'm done with Nintendo for a while. All they seem to be doing is the enablement of censorship lately. The only way to make change is to start voting with your wallets
Correct, as that´s the only language which they seem to understand perfectly.
Don't care about it. I am getting the game digitally. This isn't gonna take away my enjoyment.
Well of course. Since the game is censored why wouldn't they censor the artbook?
Because it´s a "art book", but fair enough I suppose.
True, but in this particular case their train of thought is pretty much why should we even show them the uncensored artwork that they aren't getting? That would pretty much be the equivalent of them having the censored art in the Japanese version of the artbook. Why?
Not surprised. ;)
Sadly enough, no. And that says quite a lot about the current climate in the industry.
@persona4chie "True, but in this particular case their train of thought is pretty much why should we even show them the uncensored artwork that they aren't getting? That would pretty much be the equivalent of them having the censored art in the Japanese version of the artbook. Why?" I have no idea, but Nintendo seems to get their kicks by doing so (trolling?).
Your Jessica Nigri item falls flat. Event locales have policies on what is and isn't decent. Obviously showing so much boobage was against their policy. That's not censorship if it applies equally to everyone, it's just a policy for the event. I get the censorship issues as it applies to what happens in the East as opposed to the West, but calling everything censorship just because they don't let you do what you want is not censorship. It's just standards that apply to everyone.
Who cares. Pretty much nobody. Show me a JRPG that isnt changed in some way. Here is a thought, learn Japanese and stop bitching and moaning about something you do not understand. Tokyo Mirage is going to be one of the best JRPGs of the year. Cannot wait until next week. According to Nintendo's twitter preorders are extremely high. Will sell very well. A minority bitched about Xenoblade X and Fire Emblem. Had absolutely no impact on anything. Games were smash hits.
""Show me a JRPG that isnt changed in some way" You know, I could give you a long list of JRPGs that haven't been censored, but I'm guessing you already know that most Publishers are severely cutting back on or flat out doing away with censorship and that's why you didn't say"censored in some way" because had you did, your argument would for censorship would be quickly smashed, but since even something like replacing the Japanese text with english could be considered having the game "changed in some way". Well that whole other people do it to argument is already weak to begin with.
And yet you provided no games. It is fine if you do not want to buy it. Others will.
There's this thing called "reading comprehension" might want to try it sometime.
What's upsetting is we're getting a cut version. Of course it doesn't detract from the game, but knowing the version we're getting isn't the full version does not sit well with me at all. It goes double for film, I don't want to own a TV edited version of a film over the actual theatrical version of the film. This right here is equivalent to that TV edited version. Look, it's rated T and even says it has suggestive themes so why even strip out pieces of the game and tone it down? It's like they're saying we can't handle it and quite frankly it's a bit insulting.
according to the comments and the amount of likes and dislikes, the majority do care about this, and it will affect sales atleast someone, so you are incorrect in that regard. There are so many great games out there, i have to make a decision somehow anyways, so nintendo pulling things like this, just knocks some games out of the running immediately.
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