Microsoft could potentially have a groundbreaking E3 press conference this year.
BS. Sony just never made a publicity stunt about cross network play. they did it in the PS2 era and did it last gen as well. MS just make a huge fuss about them finally saying ok.
This may hurt, but that is what MS is best at...making a huge fuss. Atleast I give credit to their PR team. Brilliant marketing division seriously.
Sarcastic I assume?!
Do you even know Xbox done cross play in 2007 on a game called Shadowrun? It was shelved as PC players dominated us playing on console... The talk of cross-play between Xbox and PS is what's new, if I remember correctly Sony have been open to the idea for a long time, it's MS who wouldn't accept it.. hence why it was relatively big news, I fail to see the publicity stunt, and I expect the first game to allow PS4 vs XBO to be rocket league.
The publicity stunt is that they say it's up to Sony now while it always has been up to them. Then add in that they say they've made something to allow other console players on THEIR network which to me sounds like they are open to the idea but only with their rules on their network. I fully understand Sony not liking that idea very much and if they make that known MS can claim "see, we are open to it, but Sony said no!"....
@Aenea Wouldn't be surprised if you need to have an Xbox Live account in order to do cross play, thats all they measure now so its not too far fetched, specially when they want people playing on their network over Sony's
sony responded like they wer ready to go to court speaking like a lawyer saying it depended on what the developer is trying to achieve. excuse me but what does that even mean? they want to broaden the userbase and have more players join the game. doesn't seem like rocket science. then sony at the end said if it makes busniess sense. that to me is all i needed to know, that they have no desire to do it.
That isn't what we are talking about, that ISN'T the same thing as the cross network play that Microsoft announced a month or 2 back. We know Shadowrun allowed cross network play on a closed forced 360/Vista network. But now developers have the same control over the capabilities of their online portion of a game the way PSN did at launch in 2006. If they want to design their game to play against another network (be it PC, Mac Linux, PSN, you can now finally start working on that on Xbox (according to the Rocket League guys there still has to be a go ahead from Microsoft though). The only thing is everybody will suffer when Xbox can't do something like over 60 players on Xbox Live like last gen. Who wants to play a crappy yet again COD multiplayer map with barely even 20 players?
I think PSN is secured from hacks now.... Im not talking about ddos but theft of personal info. Which is why I guess MS has opened up for cross console gaming. If they are specifying terms then I would think its still not secure. Its sony's backdrop.... They cant help themselves from hacking in past. Hope its solved now.
imo PS4k will not announced in this E3 neither this summer ...it will be announced next E3 after XboxScorpio reveal
Amazing how individuals such as yourself can find something negative to say even about something like this. Not willing to let even the most imagined slight go unchecked.
amazing how i've known about Cross Network play since Shadowrun. Sony wouldn't show up for Xbox's presentation they would simply put a ps logo on the big screen they use. Just like how MS wont be seen on Sonys presentation stage. You don't see a chevrolet dealer welcome everyone to the brand new Nissan Dealership. It's not even logical, so why would i fuel this shady reporter's attempt to bring clicks to his sight. i would understand them saying that the crossplay between sony and ms is a go, but to say that one of them is jumping on the stage of the other, nah not happening. if it was. it wouldnt definitly be MS standing up on Sonys as you know, 20million more people will be watching Sony's over MS, and if MS wanted to get that good boy image out to the public that would be the way to do it.
I agree. There's no way this will happen.
@Goldby ok, so ms finally said yes, so tell me again what's the problem? oh i see, you still want to remain loyal to sony meaning if they don't agree you can then fall back and claim its because ms had certain terms without one hred of evidence. its clear, you don't care for ms and your personal issues with them trump any optimism of playing with more gamers. such a shame you are taking this personal instead of trying to embrace having larger communities. this is one of the main problems on forums, people act like they are gamers when in reality they are just resistant to anything that doesn't interest them. updated, i would never expect sony to be on stage with them, it will never happen. this is about the game, not about microsoft promoting xbox live. the makers of rocket league already said its possible, let them deal with it. i don't expect anyone to have to create new accounts. you don't create a new psn account to play with pc gamers so why would microsoft think anyone would have to create an xbox live account if they don't play on a windows device? this needs to happen. it should be about the gamers, not some rhetoric or restrictions. microsoft has a new direction, they have new people, a new ceo. they are supporting android so it is not unfathomable to think they could make this work. but again i don't like the wording from sony. they also talked about how with the pc its much easier. so again you have conflicting reports from the guys at rocket league and sony.
its the conditions to the yes. if MS as they have stated, want people using their network why would sony agree to that, instead have people use the network they play on initially. Ms is banking everything on their "active xbox live accounts" if they required peopled to sign up for that, than all of a sudden they are gonna twist that into saying they are doing better than Sony because all of a sudden if people were wanting to play rocket league against Xbox players they have to sign up for Xbox live, increases their total users exponentially. It's Shady and wrong. just let us use our own systems network and let the devs decide if they want to incorporate both networks. This isnt personal its unethical. i enjoy alot of games on Xbox, i dont own one myself, but my brother does. You dont see Ferrari asking every other vehicle owner to sign up for their newsletters to give them the privileged of driving on the same road. You dont see America force the rest of the world to accept US currency as their own to continue trade deals with them. You dont see Sony requiring the pc players to set up PSN accounts to play rocket league with ps4 players.
There is no problem when MS says yes to unrestricted cross-play. If they put any restrictions on it (which was how it sounded to me at least) I find it normal for the other parties to be hesitant and reply in 'lawyer' talk because they need to check the exact wording MS used. I'm all for cross-play but I can understand Sony's hesitation if MS forces restrictions on it. You are an Xbox fan so you might find the idea silly, but what if there's something simple in the wording like that PS4 players will appear as being on XBL and not the other way around, and MS hands out a library to devs so they can add functionality so that games then use XBL ways of inviting players. Sounds great on paper then, right? Only downside is that a game can't use PS4's own ways of inviting players but uses MS's way, since you can invite any PSN player still, no worries! Then 6 months later MS's PR department churns out something like: Most active players for Battlefield 1 are on XBL! (because they also count the PSN players on THEIR network but not the other way around). Then Sony realises it was a bad business decision to immediately say yes. So yeah, I understand a careful answer until they've investigated it further...
@Aenea "There is no problem when MS says yes to unrestricted cross-play. If they put any restrictions on it (which was how it sounded to me at least) I find it normal for the other parties to be hesitant and reply in 'lawyer' talk because they need to check the exact wording MS used." great, then lets get this out in the open instead of staying silent about it. no games that allow it to me means sony does not want to partake. it would be in sony's best interest to say no thanks, microsoft has some restrictions/policies. but they are silent, that to me speaks volumes much more than hypotheticals you speak of. "I'm all for cross-play but I can understand Sony's hesitation if MS forces restrictions on it." and again you are stretching based on no facts. "You are an Xbox fan so you might find the idea silly" cut the crap about xbox fan. i own a ps3 and i am a fan of gaming, period. so enough of the stupid labels because i go after some sony fanboys who like to segregate themselves. "but what if there's something simple in the wording like that PS4 players will appear as being on XBL and not the other way around, and MS hands out a library to devs so they can add functionality so that games then use XBL ways of inviting players. Sounds great on paper then, right? Only downside is that a game can't use PS4's own ways of inviting players but uses MS's way, since you can invite any PSN player still, no worries!" how about it just works like it does playing with pc gamers instead of your hypotheticals? "Then 6 months later MS's PR department churns out something like: Most active players for Battlefield 1 are on XBL! (because they also count the PSN players on THEIR network but not the other way around)." just stop. does sony release how many people play on steam when they did cross play? so lets be a little less biased and a lot more optimistic ok? "Then Sony realises it was a bad business decision to immediately say yes. So yeah, I understand a careful answer until they've investigated it further..." your whole thing is totally one-sided and yet you want to label me a xbox fan only? what a joke. sony already said if it makes business sense. why would they say that when it should be about the games and the gamer? https://www.yahoo.com/tech/... “Because PC is an open platform it’s much more straightforward,” Yoshida said, comparing the Xbox One to the PC. “Connecting two different closed networks is much more complicated, so we have to work with developers and publishers to understand what it is they are trying to accomplish.” the people at rocket league said they already have it figured out. where is sony's response now? http://www.gamespot.com/art...
Meh, you know I was just trying to come up with a scenario where it could be bad for Sony, not saying that particular one is going to happen. Anyhoo, all I know was that I read that MS is open to it and that they've made a kit available to developers to allow cross-play on their network and read something about constraints for allowing it to happen. MS did not divulge to us gamers what those constraints are, we also do not know why on earth they even need to create a kit to make this happen. Heck, all the 2 networks do is provide a means for userids, to find/invite/whatevs your friends, etc., etc. A game will, after the invite has been sent and accepted and a connection has been established, have no need for those networks anymore for that session since all further communications will be thru their own servers. The MS kit to me sounds like a solution for finding players on the other network and inviting them, then I can suddenly see the 'constraints' part as well since it might mean they sorta force XBL like friend finding, etc. Am not sure about this indeed, it could even be that they implemented their end and now Sony needs to implement the same interfaces for PSN (and Steam for theirs and Nintendo for theirs). I could thus also say: MS not divulging what it entails could mean they are not serious about it. And yes, of course there can be another business reason why Sony now doesn't want it, they are doing well and if they agree to make it simple for any gamer to find another gamer across different networks people don't need a PS4 anymore to play with their PS4 friends. I'm a gamer, am not per se a Sony fan, well maybe a bit, not a blind one though, but I do have a bit of an anti-MS thing going from way before the first Xbox. I don't trust them one bit, hence perhaps I'm more inclined to come up with negative scenarios for MS in situations like this... Still, neither what we said has actual proof. We both don't know what MS is up too, if they are sincere or not and why Sony might be reluctant, we don't have all the info. All we can do is speculate about it and that's what we have been doing but we both seem to have a slight bias ;) I still would love to see this happen though, it could be awesome to have more people online in our fave games! Sony shouldn't be afraid to lose a few sales because of this happening and MS should throw any and all restrictions, if any, out of the window!
"I still would love to see this happen though, it could be awesome to have more people online in our fave games!" that's all it really should boil down to.
I hope the Halo 6 prediction is true even though it's kinda early they could show a teaser or a early gameplay trailer
Already lol. Halo 5 just came out less than a year. You can't be serious.
We know it's being made and Halo 5's 1st trailer came out in 2013, Halo 5 released in 2015 :) So if Halo 6 is coming in 2018 then the 1st trailer can be made today. They already have the game engine now
They've had the game engine. It's the same engine as halo 4 just upgraded
it's obvious one day they'll be another halo,what's the point in announcing it now,and releasing it 2018-2019?It's obvious,it's not a suprise at all.And halo 5 is still growing with forge ,firefight infection and more dlc to come.
Ok, that just stupid !
Why yes the Leader to help bolster the other console companies drive to devalue the Playstation Eco system over than just Sony to set out to Help Microsoft get more publicity..over Sony's own platform and its publicity. Would we be talking about Microsoft's own support up on stage at Sony's stage event? Come on ../LMAO I mean really? Has the Media really lost its [email protected] mind's?
@Bobafret4m ago [Devalue? Really?] Yes, why would Sony stand up on Microsofts stage and not the other way around? If Sony did in fact do such , what Questions would media than be asking going further..hmm, will Sony now work further with Microsoft? Will Sony now want to increase a further investment into putting more Playstation efforts on Microsofts console & Xbox one. Will this be the start of Sony getting out of making physical Game console industry
Sony is announcing Mario Kart for Xbox Scorpio confirmed. Developed by Sega with an accompanied iPhone app.
With a Konami-made pachinko.
Smells like sh...a winner to me.
Wow. Marvel did it again. amazing !!!
You can thank Batfleck for the gripping story about Klingons driving in Forza Kart' Horizon At Dawn
Wow, Thanks Samsung!
Halo 6 ? They are gonna be busy showing Halo wars 2
"... Why Sony Might Join Microsoft Onstage" uh... no. that's not going to happen...
....no they won't.
Cross network play would be cool. I m not a techie so no idea how it would be implemented. Also is it just me or the fat guy in the thumbnail look like Gabe Newell?
or michael moore lol
They won't, its in both companies best interest to keep the fan boy flame war going strong while they hangout together in secret and laugh their a$$es of at all the money their making of these man children who argue amongst themselves at who's toy is the most superior.
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