The writing's on the wall; Xbox One and Windows 10 PC are heading towards greater convergence so why shouldn't all previously released Xbox One exclusives come to Windows 10...
Absolutely not unless your objective is to put a nail on the Xbox One coffin
So, no one will buy an Xbox One because other people can play the same games on PC? Consoles sell because some people prefer the convenience of a closed box system and games going to PC will not change that.
Sunset Overdrive should come to PC, the game deserved to sell better. It would also have a better chance of getting a sequel by having the first game come to PC
I doubt the teenagers will understand. Sulking, crying "my xbox games" talk is just what we read from this now
Says the guy with fartcushion name.... The tweenies would not understand.....
Your right but theres pro and cons a company must think about..The main con being will i kill my console if consumers who have both xbox 1 and a pc start buying only the game for pc since they dont have to worry about paying to play online? $50 isnt that much, but when you take into account $50x6 (lets say thats 6 years would be the life on the console)=$300 and maybe time that by a quarter of all xbox 1 sold ( so far 36 million xbox 1 sold), which would be 9 million people who would rather stop paying gold and play for free on pc x $300.. You get where im going with the figures and even though Microsoft has $$$ up the ying yang that still would be a huge chunk of lost income for them..
Meh, consoles suck anyways, it's about time we get all games on 1 single platform. Honestly, to this day I'm blown away people supporting buying several boxes just to do the same exact thing, wasting more space, more cords to trip over, more fire hazard and more expensive controllers to buy, just to not have your buddies console so you cant play with them as easily as if it was all connected. Not to mention it sucks to pay 1500 dollars, "a SICK gaming pc", just to play on crappy low end toasters just to get the great games. But that's capitalism for you. ;) Sheeple don't know dick. Call me when we get all games on 1 unified upgradible platform, other than pc because aparently people are so stupid they can't hope to learn how to click in a new graphic card.
I agree, one platform. I feel the same way for Steam, GOG, U-Play, and all the other shit
@gaming cousin well if they were to only have one service selling games they would get way more expensive with no competition but if it did happen I would rather it was gog because of no drm.
People are stupid because they don't want to install a new graphics card? I think the only dumbass here is you for typing something so arbitrary.
it won't happen until streaming services are perfect and when that happens you will be part of their membership program like tv packages. i am tired of the fanboy nonsense where we have groups who argue over games all because they are on their preferred platform. so instead of viewing games like splatoon, killzone and halo as great shooters too many view them as exclusive games where they need to stay loyal to that platform. ask yourself this, how can anyone love playstation games but not any xbox game or love xbox games and not nintendo games? it just doesn't make any sense. this is why i agree, one platform would be ideal but then you run into issues like a non-competiting marketplace.
Ironically you ARE one of the sheeple you complain about, with your one system to rule them all viewpoint... choice is what matters for me and if I want to "click in" a console instead of a new $300 - $1200 graphics card that shouldn't be maligned or put down, which is what seems to happen every day I hear from the so-called master-race.
I am tired of explaining this, someone else please do it.
Removing a gpu is as simple as removing 2 thumb screws and pushing a tab?
why would it put a nail in the coffin when the ps4 sells more software that isn't exclsuuve to the platform that are also available elsehwere? there will always be a market for a more affordable box that is also more user friendly and plug and play than a windows gaming pc.
I'm not a fan of the Xbox and even I don't think this should happen. People can say now how gamers will still buy the box because of convenience and ease of use, but I think otherwise. It'll be giving people one less reason to buy the system. Especially when the games will play better on PC, most likely have free online, be cheaper, and then the mods..... I'd see no reason to buy one if I were to
Of course whatever you say there buddy.....
@timotim That's true too. I guess it would be something to watch
So you're saying console gamers will bypass Xbox One and build a PC if all Xbox exclusives make it on the platform? Nah, I rather play it safe with Xbox. Plus Ive already read plenty of complaints from PC gamers of Xbox games running poorly on PC(aside from KI)...or complaining about having the games be Win10 store exclusive. Now, not buying or selling your Xbox is the thing to do. Lol.. only in fanboy world.
If there is anybody out there that wants to buy a 100% multiplatform box, then sure. I don't think that number of people equals the number of people that want one, not knowingly anyway. Xbox One will still move numbers, but it would have absolutely nothing unique about it, and that's something brand new that this industry has never seen before. Would be odd to see, but Microsoft is moving towards PC more and more, so who knows.
Thats true but only half the equation. What we need to pay attention to is the pc exclusives coming to xbox. If a civilization or a star citizen can be ran on the console but doesn't come then you can say that but i still think we are only seeing half the picture. at e3 we should get a better idea of the entire picture.
some games are better suited depending on the controller. if the xbox one supports a keyboard and mouse i see no reason why it shouldn't come. there does have to be some barrier though because in a game like halo i don't imagine people want to be forced to play with those who play with a mouse and keyboard since they have an advantage now. microsoft knows this so there will be options there for the user. at the end of the day it is about enjoyment but some want to dramatize its effect and concentrate their efforts elsewhere like lost console sales. why worry about that when we are the gamer not shareholders. in fact there is an opportunity here to further impact the communtity in online games. more people and the longer the shelf life there is to host matches with gamers.
what makes playing the witcher 3 on the ps4 more unique than playign it on the pc? i ask because millions bought it on the ps4. so obviously there is a sizeable market out there that prefers to buy a $300 closed box. nintendo has more higher valued ip's than anyone, tell me again where they sit in the console race? the days of exclusive content used to sell consoles is not as relevant as it used to be. excluding games doesn't make the system unique, all it does is prevent a barrier to play it elsewhere. would you not enjoy a game like driveclub in 4k at 60 frames per second? too bad because the limitations of the ps4 somehow makes the game unique from all other racers out there. making forza 6 for the pc and xbox doesn't all of the sudden make the game less usnique. it would be the same game if it stayed on the xbox one. but once again i am talking to someone who prefers segragation in gaming all because it makes him feel unique.
***"the days of exclusive content used to sell consoles is not as relevant as it used to be"*** Were you saying this when people especially Xbox gamers were saying the PS4 has no exclusives? "making forza 6 for the pc and xbox doesn't all of the sudden make the game less usnique. it would be the same game if it stayed on the xbox one. but once again i am talking to someone who prefers segragation in gaming all because it makes him feel unique." Doesn't make the game itself less unique, but it does make the system less unique. And segregation? So why not have forza release on all systems? You know, truly unite all of gaming if that's what it's *really* about. Hint: that's not what this is about.
@Outside_ofthe_Box "Were you saying this when people especially Xbox gamers were saying the PS4 has no exclusives?" the ps4 always had exclusives. it wasn't until bloodborne came out that they had a decent one that made headlines. "Doesn't make the game itself less unique, but it does make the system less unique." unique only in the sense that is the only place to play it. the game itself doesn't become unique unless the hardware has features in the game that make it unique that no other platform can replicate. "And segregation? So why not have forza release on all systems? You know, truly unite all of gaming if that's what it's *really* about. Hint: that's not what this is about." wouldn't bother me at all but we all know microsoft sees the playstation as a direct competitor, it does not see the pc as one. just like how sony sees the xbox one as a direct competitor but will finance games like street fighter that are also on the pc. plus they will even get on stage with gabe newell to announce steam cross-play. because again they don't see the pc as a direct competitor like the nintendo consoles and the xbox. same thing with the playstation vita, they allow games like the show to be on it as well, did that make the game on the ps4 less unique? give me a break.
"the ps4 always had exclusives. it wasn't until bloodborne came out that they had a decent one that made headlines" Not my point. My point was that exclusives were being used as a selling point a mere year ago and now all of sudden they're aren't "as relevant as they used to be" anymore. "we all know microsoft sees the playstation as a direct competitor, it does not see the pc as one" So it's not about segregation/uniting then? Why is it that they don't see PC as competitor? They don't see it as a threat to XBox one sales at all? "just like how sony sees the xbox one as a direct competitor but will finance games like street fighter that are also on the pc" Then why don't they release their first and second parties on the PC as well? "playstation vita, they allow games like the show to be on it as well, did that make the game on the ps4 less unique?" If every game released on the Vita then yeah, it would also call into question if PS4 games are being held back by Vita. Hell the reverse was true. How many times did we see people complain about the Vita getting console games instead of unique experiences only available on the Vita?
@outside "Were you saying this when people especially Xbox gamers were saying the PS4 has no exclusives?" Once again ignoring the real issue and the point of Moldy's comment and turning it into a N4G fanboy war. Good job Outside. "Why is it that they don't see PC as competitor?" Because it's MS's game being sold on two different platforms. MS is getting money regardless, why would they see PC as competition when they are trying to get the PC crowd also? "They don't see it as a threat to XBox one sales at all?" Has it been a threat Outside? Why are you asking irrelevant questions? Multiplatform games have always sold more on consoles, why is this going to change all of a sudden when Xbox games are now on PC? Most have been before, was there a sudden surge of PC sales when consumers found out that Xbox games were coming to PC? "How many times did we see people complain..." You seriously have no answers of your own. Your arguments always consists of gross exaggerated generalizations of what the Xbox crowd did "back then".
Not sure if you're gonna see this gangsta_red, but whatevs... "Once again ignoring the real issue and the point of Moldy's comment and turning it into a N4G fanboy war." You're ignoring my point, which was that just *last year* exclusives(or lack thereof) were being attributed to a console's value/worth, but now they aren't relevant as they use to be? "Because it's MS's game being sold on two different platforms. MS is getting money regardless, why would they see PC as competition when they are trying to get the PC crowd also?" Why not release on all platforms? If it's just about getting money regardless? "Multiplatform games have always sold more on consoles, why is this going to change all of a sudden when Xbox games are now on PC?" I was talking about Xbox One hardware sales not sales of software. Now I know you're gonna say is there sharp decrease in XB1 sales. Obviously we don't know, but my whole point is however slight the decrease in hardware sales may be, the move for XB games going to PC does not make Xbox *more* attractive. It does however make PC gaming more attractive. If there ever was a time to test the waters of PC gaming, now would definitely be a good time given MS's plans going forward. "You seriously have no answers of your own. Your arguments always consists of gross exaggerated generalizations of what the Xbox crowd did "back then". " Huh? It wasn't just the Xbox crowed saying that about the Vita though. Plenty PS gamers wanted experiences only unique to the Vita as well. And that is a relevant argument to make as it shows an example of gamers wanting a platform to have it's own exclusives as opposed to having all it's games also available on another platform. Also moldy is the one that brought up the Vita for his argument, I was just also able to use it for my argument too.
Yeah, but you're as lost as a dick at a Rosie O'Donnell orgy.
why not? Theres overlap, but i dont think pc and console are in direct competition. Microsoft was already trying to kill off pc gaming back when the 360 was launching, but that was before vista, the rise of mobile devices, and a change of ceo. If they make a day 1 version of halo 6 for pc i think it would be huge for them, assuming halo 6 turns out to be a good multiplayer game.
so you saying HALO 5's multiplayer isnt good?
havent tried it.
@kevnb you shud.....
Which console exclusives are not on pc already? Halo, sunset and forza h1/2...
right now MS needs to provide incentive to buy a xbox one. i understand what phil spencer is trying to do but in returnn he is hurting the overall value of xbox brand. if all your big exclusives are gonna end on pc than why buy a dedicated console just for that
As long as there's a 100+ million gamers out there that want nothing to do with pc gaming, there will always be a market. MS SHOULD put all of their games in pc. It doesn't affect console players and gives ms and the developers extra cash. Super easy concept to understand.
I can see the arguments from the perspective of console players (Xbox in this case). Thing is though, Microsoft would make money either way and both PC and Xbox players would enjoy it. The install base between both is quite large. They are a software company first and foremost and this wouldn't be a loss for Microsoft honestly. People may say "Well, in that case I'll go to Playstation because they have exclusive games that aren't coming to PC". Really doesn't make sense to be honest. I would see it more going forward as a "Microsoft" exclusive as the Xbox brand is integrating quite well on PC (Windows 10). Consoles will sell now and in the future because they are cost effective and a way to reach more audiences. Developing games so that it reaches as many people as possible is a great goal, and something that Microsoft should definitely consider for the first party games. I just hope they fix that gawd awful store though....
they don't make as much money from software sales on pc tho not even close. I'm not bothered what happens to the Xbox tho because my pc can play any of the games easily with a 970 in it. I haven't played any Xbox game on pc worth caring about so far.....I tried QB all I can say is ........I'm glad I didn't pay for it and then ryse ..............let's say playing that game no matter how good a pc you have doesn't make it worth playing. Tho dead Rising 3 was good especially when forcing it to 60 fps unlike the 14 fps on the Xbox.
Yes since both are pretty much the same platform.
Yes? I mean all future games seem to be coming to Windows 10 and I don't see why they wouldn't eventually bring previously released Xbox One exclusives.
Make the PC the MASTER RACE RELEASE ALL EXCLUSIVES EVERYWHERE ON PC
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Doesn't matter to me. The more fun for people the merrier. They're killing it with Minecraft right now.
No Qualms about them being on PC , just as long that MS maintains control of pricing & where its sold .
Yes, if only so we can bask in the tears of fanboys crying about how microsoft isn't making them feel special for owning an xbox one.
Sure, I don't see why not.
For sure, why not? MS and Devs get some cash from the past and it gives gamers that are stuck with just pc looking for new gaming experiences. Some pc gamers may even buy xbox after playing a franchise they loved.(i did)
As an xb1 owner i dont see why not. Rocket League cross platform multiplayer has worked flawlessly for xb1 and pc owners.
I don't really care, I just would like to see more MS publishers make their games BC with xbox one
Wouldnt see why not, would make sense for the company as a whole to offer its games to its consumers. Besides it would only make more money for the developers hard work and for Microsoft, but then there would be the question of if i can play this game online for free on my pc why should i have to pay to have Gold on my xbox.
It would be the logical thing to do. Microsoft makes money by selling games, they have a much higher mark up than the consoles. Considering that the Xbox One hasn't sold well, and even if they thought that they could sell more units by keeping certain titles as exclusives it wouldn't matter. The money they make isn't from selling consoles, it's from selling software. So selling that software to as many people as possible is clearly the best way to make money, and they'll be able to sell to a lot more people if they port games to PC than if they keep them as exclusives to Xbox One.
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