Microsoft's mid generation reboot could be far more significant than Sony's PS4 NEO.
Or dig their grave deeper.
Nah the Neo specs are too weak to compete with the Scorpio. The NX does not even want to mess with the Scorpio which is why it's staying out of E3. Jburr - I will take on your bet....if the Neo specs are more powerful than the Scorpio I will leave N4G, I am a man of my words - but if they are not then you need to publicly apologize to me for being such a pessimist. Smieman - bro all you have to do is google both Neo and Scorpio and you will get your proof, AMD pretty much confirmed both consoles are real and the specs advantage goes to the Scorpio. Dead Oreo - Savage!!! Kudos to you good sir. Lord of cider - you need to ask the Sony fanboys that question since GT Sport is lacking features due to not having enough powah to do full VR. Tech Head - E3 is right around the corner and hope to still you in here preaching your tech propaganda after the aftermath...don't want that Crow pie to get too cold.
I bet Scorpio isn't gonna be stronger just like Xbox One was supposed to have 2 times more ram. Also power advantage did not hurt the PS2 one bit :)
I didn't know Sony and MS confirmed these two new consoles. I missed that. Can you link me to official specs? I would like to check it out. Confirmed only please. No rumor stuff.
Fin the human Never go full fanboy man.
So, after 3 years preaching "power doesn't matter", people are betting on "power" to turn the tides against Sony? Why the u turn and double standards?
Not really. Rumors say Scorpio is aiming for 5-6 TF.(Keyword: Aiming) Rumors say Neo is aiming for 4.1 TF. (Keyword: Aiming) Say PS4 Neo is at 4.1 while Scorpio is at 5 TF. They are very much in the same ballpark. And considering both consoles will be held back by their original PS4/XB1, the specs themselves aren't going to be maxed out. The Scorpio could be 50 TF and it wouldn't do it any good with the XB1 holding it back.
The neo, if true, is a 1.5 system, not a ps5. Phil spencer already said he doesn't want to make a 1.5 system. The scorpio, if true, is the next gen xbox. All the neo is is sony's slim. It is not the ps5. They're not the same thing. Microsoft is starting next gen a early again like they did when ps2 was killing, that is all.
We don't know the specs of either machine. But Sony being primarily a hardware company probably has multiple designs up for consideration, so perhaps a $400 and a $600 model. If they are smart they will let Microsoft go first.
Lol neo is bad for games slap in the original user base face horrible for current ps 4 users and dangerous to the hobby. Scorpio is none if these things it's amazing thanks ms for moving on so quick you saved us. You guys are jokes of the video game community and just like ms you xbox fans are a cancer to the industry.
Lol @ black tar
I thought I was the only one who noticed the double standards and hypocrisy. Funny to see all those with hate and faux concern becoming approving and hopeful overnight. Entertainment
How are specs confirmed when the two consoles haven't been announced and they're still considered rumors? The XB1 has no identity. There's no variety in games and most of the games that ARE available are for PC, which makes it pointless to buy an XB1. But you know, I do like when the Neo got completely trashed whole this 'Scorpio' is the best thing ever.
Its not just about power(something the PS2 proved very very convincingly) its about quality of games which MS just doesn't have.
That's what you're wishing for but it's very unlikely that will happen
I don't have to wish for that. It does nothing to me, unlike you being bittter about Uncharted reviews. Get a brain And this idea can be very riski for both companies. I'm not totally convinced, but we shall see.
What grave? Am I missing something or is it not selling as fast ot faster then Xbox 360. There were no talks of Graves then and not sure why there would be now. @elektranine No Xbox one did not release worldwide at launch. Check your facts
The idea to recover is simple, but difficult to execute. AAA exclusives help sell consoles. Microsoft need more AAA exclusives... much more AAA exclusives. Just by comparing the X1 and PS4 in 2016, Sony are launching way more exclusives for their console then Microsoft.
Common ps4 in 2.5 years has only 2 really big exklusives.. bloodborne & uncharted 4. The key is like 360 better multiplats in comparison to ps4/k Players how loves jrpg always has buy ps. Multiplats resolution and fps will be the key...
Im sorry but ps4 will still win. If you can get the same games as everyone else AND exclusives, that will sell more than just better looking (not much better because remember has to be able to play on all consoles) multiplatform games. The exclusives coming out to playstation completely eclipse the xbix line up thats exclusive. Nms alone will put any space game and the sacred minecraft MS paid so much money for to shame Also seemed to forget MLB The Show, infamous, disgaea 5, the order, planetside 2, resogun
Only two big exclusive? Do you realise that infamous second son sold more than 2 mil and is well rated too? Not even gonina mention other games like until dawn , dragon quest heroes, driveclub etc.... you keep dreaming and believe the Internet while playstation owners are actually buying and playing exclusive games. Uncharted 4 and bloodborne are just outstanding games, doesn't mean they are the only two big exclusive because I'm pretty sure you won't know what makes a game " big". On topic tho, Microsoft can definitely improve their image and only games can do that.
True, true, only 2 really big exclusives on the PS4! But that's better than ZERO really big exclusives on the X1! See, I can go all crazy fan too and say nonsense! :p
I own both with 80% of the games on ps4 because of resolution and friends. And what u are doing on a scorpio article? U are only her to say sony is the better company? Both give a shit about us. They only want to make money.
Correction, PS4 has at least 2 undeniable classics. Bloodborne & UC4 aren't just "big exclusives", they are both their own respective high water marks for this gen. Xbox One doesn't have a single game in that realm of quality. Some tastes may vary, maybe Halo 5 is the most fun you ever had with a game, but the general consensus is exactly that, and there isn't a single XBO exclusive that approaches the universal praise that those games got. Sunset Overdrive is the only title on the XBO that comes close, but even it falls short. All I see in terms of software is the same thing we saw last gen, MS starts off strong while Sony starts slower, then they are ships passing in the night as Sony keeps cranking out quality exclusives even after the gen is finished while MS gave up on games a long time prior....all the while a fair few of the best of those early Xbox exclusives end up hitting the PS, bolstering that catalog even further (RotTR, Titanfall, etc.). For as much as people praise Phil for turning the Xbox around, I'm still not seeing much of a change in the day to day in terms of exclusive content. E3 will be very interesting on all sides. I honestly think this E3 Sony will pull far ahead in terms of new content. I just don't see MS announcing many new titles that aren't expected. Forza & Dead Rising 4 will be their showpiece new announcements, possibly Battletoads, then a lot of catching up & actually showing the stuff they announced last year. The rumors we've heard around Sony's camp alone blows that out of the water really in terms of games...interesting to open world post apocalyptic IP, new GoW, potentially a Spidey exclusive...all megaton material.
Except exclusives don't sell consoles, there isn't one exclusive game on either PS4 or Xbox One that has outsold a FIFA or COD game on just that platform alone. People buy these consoles for the multi-platform games and where their friends are playing. Exclusives are just icing on the cake
But but but... Exclusives..... Yea you're right. Wish the fans would wash the mud out of their eyes and recognize the truth.
'where their friends are playing' is actually the Xbox's bane rather than exclusive games. Outside of NA/UK XBL is a barren wasteland compared to PSN. PS already established its install base all the way since PS1 era. I don't know about other countries but in my country the word 'console' is already synonymous with 'playstation', and XB1 having inferior multiplats performance and way less exclusive games aren't helping either..
Exclusives DO sell consoles. Gee, I wonder how Uncharted 4 sold that many units...oh wait.
@spectre_ Funny though that even PS's biggest exclusive doesn't scratch the worst COD in the 8th generation ( Ghost). The market doesn't behave the way it did back in the PS2 era. The PS3 was a major success not because of its exclusives, but due to it boasting more media features and free online. Exclusives do attract a certain crowd, but not the vast majority of gamers. Once again if you can show me Infamous Second Son or Knack or DC or The Order selling more than the likes of FIFA or COD or NBA or Destiny and so on. I'll believe people do buy these systems for exclusives. But sadly that isn't the case regardless of how much of your own delusions you try to interject
@notachance Of course, chances are your PS4 has more friends owning and playing on it, simply because its the more popular unit. Even here in the U.S, I work at a GATE after school program for middle schoolers and most of my kids are PS4 owners. ( Owned only a Wii last-gen) So thus it does work against them and why the PS4 continues its immense success, friends of friends are saying "yo buy PS, I don't got Xbox"
LOL. Games sell consoles yes multi platforms games sell consoles but do you honestly believe that publishers and developers are going to ignore the huge install base of the PS4 no way in hell there is to much money to be made. Fanboys and their delusions the PS2 is proof of that but sure power will save MS when their are less and less reasons to buy a MS console. You want real power build a PC much better option if power is what you want.
* How do we know that these new consoles aren't just the next gen consoles that will release in 2019 and these "neo/scorpio" consoles are just maybe a smaller slimmer upgraded PS4/XB1 ?
Yeah, things sound a little off here. A mid-gen upgrade literally makes no sense. That is not how the home console market works. Incremental updates with varying spec requirements is PC and defeats the ease of use and simplicity of consoles for the end user. I have a feeling people are highly speculating on next gen systems, which, let's face it, could very well be coming in 2017. When this gen started, it was acknowledged that it likely would not last as long as last gen, and would in all likelihood stick closer to a four year lifespan. Hell, the way people describe that way it would work is literally a generation jump. I get that we have a hard time thinking of generational differences at this point because we just won't see jumps like we used to, but if we see a big power bump relative to the current ability of home consoles, that means new gen, not an update. When you consider that the PS4 and Xbox One were already kind of weak for when they launched in 2013, it makes sense that we would be pushing towards a new generation for 2017.
The ease of use and simplicity are not at all affected by the release of upgraded consoles. And console upgrades every few years are likely going to be the norm from now on given that they are essentially PC based architecture. They will just ride along with the APU updates from AMD and release a faster machine every few years that is fully backwards compatible. Meanwhile the older machine will continue to be supported for some time, I would expect for at least a few years after they cease production.
Because leaks/ rumors never happen this early in the current gen. Also, its no secret that the PS4 needs more power to run PSVR without sacrificing content and features....GT Sport is a good example of this - Sony needs the Neo now. Developers have been confirmed to be working on XBox VR games and we all know that the XB1 is no where near running VR since its under powered.... So yeah MS needs a new console which is a 6 teraflop monster code named the Scorpio.
they aren't known to be working on Xbox vr games they are known to be working on vr Xbox one games the conference even says vr and Xbox one not just Xbox. if it did just say Xbox they may mean pc using the Xbox windows 10 junk and not even the console anyway. with all that said I thought vr was a waste of time and wouldn't catch on but now there is a hint ms may be doing vr you are all flipping like the fish you are. the same as power doesn't matter now you guys think the Scorpio if it exists is more powerful it's a good thing 😂 if you read the rumours about the console it's going to be about 4.8 tflops not 6 anyway going by 4 times the power that is rumoured.
MrMagoo really sounds like the defensive type eh? Worried are we?
So now GT is an example? What content is it sacrificing when we just found out it actually has a lot of content? You're already claiming a victory for xbox based on rumours mate. What happen to " cloud" or " power doesn't mean anything " ? You guys change your views just like xbox changes is ways.
Gt sports content or lack of is nothing to do with the hardware. Gran turismo 6 was on PS3 and was huge I'm sure they could have put a lot more into GT sports on a launch ps4 they've just chosen to launch it ASAP and if they are doing that they won't be banging a full on career in it... Future updates like the previous had could add Allsorts of extra cars and tracks tho and think majority was free.
Because they're not. All the rumors and leaks have specifically stated that the consoles are just more powerful versions of the current gen consoles. We already have leaked documentation for the Neo at the very least. The console will not have any exclusives. It will just run PS4 but....better/prettier. Scorpio is still very early in development with rumors pointing to a release in late 2017 but I'm assuming the Scorpio will follow Sony's business model with the Neo. (Still an Xbox One, just better)
We have articles that talk about that they've seen leaked documentation and what's supposedly in them. The documents themselves haven't been leaked which is odd to say the least, I would at least expect a picture of those documents or at least a part of it to show it's real....
It's an opportunity to show people that resolution and fps is not what makes gaming fun. I just can't wait to see comparisons between the PS4 Neo vs Xbox Scorpio. When it was PS4 vs X1 fanboys acted like the difference was soooo noticeable. Let's see if they'll admit the difference between the Neo vs Scorpio...probably not.
Neither Neo nor Scorpio have specs set in stone. You'd be wise to stop claiming victories this early.
the consoles aren't even confirmed to be true let alone the specs. but the specs suggest the new xbone will be 4.8tflops max so not the 6 the fanboys seem to be wetting themselves about.
Claiming victory? Of what? You practically admitted you're a console war warrior of ps (everyone knew that already tho) lol. You ppl are something else. Instead of enjoying games you're hating and praying bad for others console of choice. SMDH
It will indeed be fun to see all those Xbox fans now suddenly claiming that resolution and fps *is* important!
It's already started
It's not. Why would it be fun... It would be sad. Fps is important... Without fps your game doesn't run and it can affect the playability of the game. Resolution has never been hugely important.
But havent all PS4 fanboys cried that Res and fps is important since launch?
Resolution still isn't important but better textures and lighting are Bring on the Scorpio!
And then Sony will release the PS5 lol.
Yup they will release the PS5 in 2018. Neo is just a PS4 with a minor update.
Not for another 3-4 years minimum they consistently sell over 100 million consoles per generation excluding the PS3 which had some major competiton from Xbox. Things have changed again tho but sorry if you think they are gonna release a next gen Playstation5 in the next 1-2 years your seriously deluded... They've only just hit 40 million they will continue for at least another 2-3 years until this number is doubled if not tripled ie back like the ps1/ps2 days. Neo end of this year early next year for some territories no doubt, PS vr is gonna launch, Shenmue 3, final fantasy 7 (not that I'm too bothered about that one) in 2017. They have plenty to keep them going easily until 2020/2021 especially if they are launching a bigger better (NOT next gen) model within 6 months or so... That'll be around for bare minimum another 2 years, original ps4 s smashing it they not jumping ship anytime soon, Sony have even said they don't know if a ps5 will happen? Bollocks of course because of course a ps5 will happen... Not for another 3-4 years in my opinion. 8-10 year console cycles and all. I can assure you there will be no official talk of ps5's until Sony get their ps4 sales up above what they achieved with PS3 and somewhere towards ps1/2 sales territory, they've not worked that hard to get themselves a massively successful console to then drop it within 3 years... The Neo if that's what it becomes is gonna be more in the style of a "New" Nintendo 3ds XL renovation not revolution. Faster smoother slightly better not a whole new generation... EA, Ubisoft and activision Etc are gonna jump ship and go next gen before they've barely probably started on this gen hence why they were so reluctant to leave last gen with their yearly crap.. Ps4/ps4.5-Neo not gonna get phased out for a good 3-4 years unless there is something seriously wrong with it.
its amazing how you xbox trolls defend the news of scorpio yet bash anything neo related(while both still remian rumors) the hate on neo from xbox defense force is amazing but than the same fanboys turn around to praise xbox scorpio nothing MS can do will help them this gen. behind 20 million means staying behind 20 million. ps3 took 6 years to erase a 6-7 million lead so what makes anyone think Scorpio can erase a 20 plus million in lead also if we believe the rumors than neo is due out in fall 2016 while scorpio isn't due until 2017. meaning sony will have all the market to them self and can make the lead even 25-30 million before even scorpio even comes out my thing is simple why have a double standard? if neo is bad for gaming than why is scorpio good for gaming? and than they say n4g is a pro playstation site. when on daily basis neo is getting hateful articles while scorpio is being praised
So true. These Xbox guys are a little silly, apparently Scorpio will be amazing yet Neo will be terrible. All based on rumors too.
Thing is I think my launch day ps4 will overcome even a newer Scorpio Xbox because for me it's what they are doing with the platform ie what games we are getting PlayStation loads of new ones every day Xbox not a lot and same old yearly churns. If all else fails there's always NX for my new console fix.
Maybe because both are totally different situations. PS4 is the more powerful console ( by a land slide) according to PS4 fan boys. So it makes perfect sense that Microsoft would need a new console before Sony.
if we are to believe the rumors than the more powerful xbox is coming in 2017 and ps4 neo coming in 2016 i want e3 to get here so we can all stop this nonsense
The majority of the Neo "hate" is coming from PS4 owners not wanting their box to be outdated I've never been against new consoles especially since the Scorpio will be 5 or 6 Tflops
rumors man why is it that people take rumors to heart. before announcement of ps4 and xbox one, it was rumored that xbox one will be more powerful than ps4 but we all know what actually happened
the rumor is 4 times the Xbox one power so 4.8 tflops not 5 to 6 well unless you wanna pay 800 plus for a new console of course.
Bro the XBox Scorpio is a true and worthy upgrade compared to the PS4.5 Neo which is just being released for the sake of adding some ump to PSVR. Please don't compare that garbage Neo to the Scorpio ever again.
there rests my argument. we know next to nothing about either besides the rumors yet you have come to a concrete conclusion
Well currently the PS4 is 50% faster than the X1 and I've heard many Xbox fans claim that that isn't all that much of a difference. So the rumoured Neo is 4TF and the rumoured Scorpio is 6TF? That's only a 50% improvement, just like the situation is now. It's not that big of an improvement... And you keep talking about the Neo is just for PSVR, it's hilarious! The only reason MS is releasing the Scorpio is because they can jump on the VR bandwagon as well since the X1 isn't even able to play ANY VR game with it's current hardware... I really don't care about the specs of either rumoured machines, but I now kinda hope they are real and the rumoured specs are dead wrong and that the Neo has a teensy, tiny bit more power so you will leave this site... All you do is: PSVR is crap, Neo is crap, PS4 is not strong enough for PSVR, Scorpio is great, Scorpio is a real upgrade, Rift gonna be awesome on Scorpio... one track record...
Fin... The most naive fan boy on N4g
Sounds to me like you are doing your best to take the biggest xbox fanboys on this site award from PistolsAtDawn. Grow up dude you come across as such a sad little fanboy, lol!
I agree. You can't be calling out one saying it's bad while praising the other (your console of choice). Me personally, I'm a Sony guy. I'll say the same thing about Neo too. I don't think a mid gen upgrade is a good idea and am against it. With that said I'm not in favor of the Neo. Good thing for me is these are all just rumors. Probably stay as rumors too until the next set of systems get released
Its cuz the Xbone camp have been in agony this hole gen, and the scorpio is gona save them from this pain lol. The funny thing about all this is, MS will always be behind whatever they do. PS is a very strong WW brand.
NO ONE CARES!!! I just want gaming to be pushed to new lvls don't give 2 ***** which console sales more(not like I'm getting any of that money) all i know (based off rumors) is Neo is a ps4 simple as that and scorpio is xbox 4. One will have increased res, fps and graphics. The other will have all that and next gen gameplay....big difference. I personally think it's too early but if you're going to release more powerful hardware jump in fully and utilize it to it's full potential.
You know what... Take your situation and what you think and apply that to Xbox fans as well. They're tired as well. Same as you. So relax. Double standards don't exist. These are people just stupidly passionate about a console they love just like Sony fans. If you want to hate... Hate all fans...they all like to try to force their views on their console of choice on others instead of accepting the possibility that there are people who actually enjoy their consoles games more then the competitions. Same with these neo and Scorpio rumors. You got fans on both sides saying the other will lose etc. Im not calling you a fanboy or anything. Just this whole thing is really not as one sided as you think it is.
I understand what your saying about fans. After all every one can express themselves in the comments and we know how fanboy wars go with all the bias. 'A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices' W.James However I think his comment is justified regarding the article and Gaminbolt for example. Many gaming sites also have demonstrated a real