I get what pd doing here, but to me gt5 l, though not the best gt, introduced a lot of new elements.
It's like, sometimes it's good to sacrifice for the sake of better performance and overall experience, but at the same time some of the features are so great you rather have them in and have them cut back else where.
I guess we expect to much at this point, thinking the hardware can push that much going on all at a stable frame.
I'll wait till the final release, but so far not liking what I hear. It's strange, because sometimes we are okay with getting games that offer what normally wouldn't be acceptable but turns out great, yet other times we wish it went the other route and supplied more at the cost of lower fps, resolution. It's just odd to see a GT game take away rather then add (I know bigger player count, but still)
I won't say the game gonna be bad till it's finalized, because I've been surprised before. Afterall, this game doesn't seem to geared towards being a true GT game for the fans, but more as a competition type of game, like GT ACADEMY was
According to various reports, GT Sport is designed an online-focused eSports title. It's not just dynamic time of day or weather that will be absent, but the singleplayer mode will also be missing in action to make way for small tutorials and missions to teach people proper racing technique and etiquette as well.
It's an interesting direction to take the franchise, but I'm not sure if stripping it down so much to focus on online play is a wise decision. Online-focused games are generally fine, and many franchises and IPs have been successful when venturing in this direction, but to do so with a racing series such as Gran Turismo? Considering how ram-happy and aggressive a lot of gamers can be in online racing games, this could be a very poor decision due to the simple fact that it's incredibly difficult to enforce clean racing.
On the plus side however, at least Polyphony Digital have finally learned that quality is more important than quantity.
Honestly, I know they're different games and all, but Driveclub to me seems to be standing on the shoulders of GT in a lot of ways. PD should be blowing my mind on a PS4 title I would think, but they're kind of not.
Wasn't SFV also eSports focused. I wonder how this will turn out. The competition with racing sims is so good right now that PD can't really afford to be slacking. I don't want to see GT become irrelevant in the future. I will most likely skip this one and wait for GT7, and when that game finally does arrive, I expect nothing but the best from one of the best developers out there. Time to get it together PD.
Edit: As a console only gamer for so long and huge GT fan, I didn't realize how important the sound of the vehicles were until I tried a few racing sims on PC. It blew my mind how good a few games sound. It was like a whole new experience to me and it will be hard to go back to the GT series if PD doesn't get with the times and catch up the competition as far as certain features go.
I'm definitely disappointed that this won't be much more than a extended Prologue to GT7.
They might've (unexpectedly?) made this deal with the FIA and therefore decided to make their next game about it. Making it a small part of a full fledged GT7 probably wouldn't have the impact it will have this way so I'm kind of understanding where they are coming from... but as I care much more about Gran Turismo than I do about online racing this is still not what I was hoping for. I'll probably buy it just for the amazing physics but I'm not sure how long it can keep me playing...
Couldnt be more wrong. Is Forza vr? Does forza reward winners with cash and podium ceremonies next to the actual drivers if the real race, does forza teach people about etiquette not only on the track but also pit, garage and podium?
Forza us a race sim game. Gt is a door into actual real life racing.
Crimzon there is a singleplayer portion to the game, already confirmed, the fia stuff is more to do with the online portion of the game, which you dont need to touch.. everyone freaking out over nothing, peps need ro realise that this is a new gt, not numbered and bigger than a prologue, its a new direction for the series and the fact that it teaches you how to race properly is fantastic, not to mention the chance to earn a real life racing licence has never been done before... day 1 for me.
"GT Sports is NOT and I repeat NOT GT7 then fair enough"
But the fact they keep dabbling on this is annoying. If they class it as a spin off then it gives them a bit of room to say "we only do big additions and changes in our main games"
That's in NO WAY giving them an excuse here but when you look at GT5 and see so many changes then you can help to think why GT Sports is lacking a little.
GT5 added a lot GT6 didn't GT7 should
It's like a pattern. GT1, 3, 5 have all been big additions which push the series/genre forward while the even ones 2,4,6 have just been improved, refined versions of the last one.
Well, we have Forzatards to thank for it. We had dynamic weather, but bunch of kids with their little joypads thought pre-baked plastic Forza bullshit looked better. YOU ARE FUCKING WELCOME, and now swallow and enojy your little compromise to mediocrity.
GT SPORT is about racing and winning FIA approved trophies. If you can drive a bloody car and win the race, that's all that's going to matter. Nothing else.
GT SPORT is about online eSports.
And that's that. You freaking qualify. You win. You don't qualify, you lose.
You can sit at your basement and cry over it while some guy will go ahead and win the tournament and get real sponsorship and money.
3 years and this is all they have to show for it. sad that this was one of the premiere developers in the world but have been floating for about 10 years now. i still believe it's the added support for psvr that is to blame for the underwhelming graphics and now this. but people should not comapre this game to driveclub. there are more cars onscreen and it's also going to be double the frame rate.
It seems you don't understand how lighting works in modern games. Virtually all games use "baked" lighting to some degree, mixed with some dynamic lights and shadows in select areas.
Baked lighting also does not equal 'bad lighting', as some of you seem to think. Games like The Order 1886, Assassin's Creed Unity and Uncharted 4, for example, make extensive use of baked lighting and most people think those games look fantastic.
I haven't played much of Forza, but I've seen enough to know it's using a combination of baked and dynamic lighting just like most games.
what the hell guys? you only see rain and graphics?
I buy GT for competitive racing and physics (with racing wheel)! I use the game to train before to go to actual race track!
seems like most of you are using controllers for racing.. so im here a true minority! never mind then! Seems like im getting too old, smart and mature with my choice of games!
Only if you want to say back ground items that are miles away are considered as "baked".That is dumb semantic and you know it.
Even at that level, games like Drive Club does full 3D rendering and lighting of far away objects. Meaning full dynamic.
Reality, you are taking about playable area when speaking of Dynamic Lighting. Uncharted and Order definitely has full dynamic lighting. Wheras Forza, items 2 feet away from your are prebaked.
@BEASELY
Uh. No. That is like saying Forza which has 95 prebaked and 5 percent dynamic is somehow same as other games that has 95 percent dynamic and 5 percent prebaked.
You can try to blur the line, but they are different.
I was hoping it would blow GT5 and GT6 away by a mile. Take weather condition, day and night driving to a whole new level. Doesn't look like any of that is going to happen with this game. DriveClub will still have the best looking weather.
This is not Gran Turismo 7 it's Gran Turismo Sports it has to be different than numbered Gran Turismo games and I don't think we should be blaming or pointing fingers to a studio that always did right to the fans since the psone days we should be supporting the new direction they are trying... and if we don't like then we wait for GT7 or play other racing games and there are many goods out there but their not GT...
That is how I felt right now as well. As a big GT fan, this is so disappointing since it has 3 plus years of development since their last game and things like car count, sounds, technical graphics effects are all underwhelming at this point. A big contrast to what the series is most famous for.
Hype a bit derailed but still consider getting it since I need games for my PSVR.
Are you telling us that you were willing to compete with other players if or if it didn't rain? Captain, please call me when you win a race in Forza and you get selected to race in the real world.
The more information that gets released the more this sounds like GT lite. Maybe its a full game but it's not the real gran turismo. Not even comparable
Its just a game. I don't have to be personally invested to enjoy it and I don't need to satisfy you to be on this site. Seriously what is wrong with you that you.
lmao wtf kinda answer is that ? Like saying meh if shirt is too small and missing a button just a shirt. Perhaps more like who cares if the car has 40 horsepower still drives right? SMH horrible answer man
No don't feel fine ,u should demand better, u make it okay for these companies to keep making the entire industry worse by letting them keep overinflating these games and then u protect them over a brand name and a feelin of fitting in "my systems better than yours mentality" youre not being a smart consumer and it's this blind thinking that has made this studio and this generation of games a complete s___show. It's okay to say that something you like sucks and well deserved unless you like punishment then keep goin ahead and let them take your money but you will keep eating it.when a company uses these tactics the truth eventually reveals itself. It's a great white hype . another Rhonda rousey , more hype less reality
be honest with your self if this is a letdown you werent going to buy it any way. you just feel the need to comment that on here to get some likes, like the other people that are in the same boat as you, to feel relevant
Nah, I am a rather big GT fan myself, but if games like GRID, DriveClub, Forza, Need For Speed: SHIFT and others include it, I'd reckon that the reigning champ of Racing Simulators (Polyphony Digital) to include it as well. Omitting it makes absolutely no sense.
It's no big deal....Just like you can go back and play PS3 games on your PS3 if you want to play old games, you can in this case, go back and play Driveclub if you want dynamic weather while you're racing.
Yet the article could've been titled "GTS will be 1080p 60fps with dynamic lighting, night racing, and a weather system". See how that makes it sound better.
travestyj9m ago This is likely because it is a PSVR game and they need to keep it at a stable 60fps. Also before you compare it to Forza 6, it too does not have this. ==========================
Its prob because the FIA want to control the conditions.. And GT 5/6 run @ 240FPS
you have GT 5 showing SIMULview, iow 2x people getting 2 different views from the SAME TV set.
GT 5/6 has support for multiple monitors, here is the UBERRACEr running 5 [not 4] 1080p TVs to give 9600x1080 resolution. That junior is 5x 60Hz= 300Hz/FPS. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Now what????
Kiddies today knowall, know f'all.. I suppose you fink the Neo and Scorpio are real eh kid??? lolololololol
====================== Sony PS4 dev kit FCC filing shows off extra ports, 2.75GHz max clock frequency
Richard Lawler , @Rjcc 07.16.13 ====================== Also of note is a "max clock frequency" listing of 2.75GHz, and although we don't know how fast the game system will run by default, it's interesting to hear what all that silicon may be capable of (as a commenter points out below, that may relate to the system's 8GB of GDDR5 RAM) while maintaining a temperature between 5 and 35 degrees celsius. ========================
What a bummer, PS4 fans wont get it, since its the only reason to play racing games. Thats what they ALL said about forza. Hope they stay true and dont flipflop. Also wont play it if it looks worse than Driveclub I guess /s
Better damage is more important than dynamic weather. The physics of a wet surface are great but I would prefer the great physics over a half assed attempt to do it all. These consoles aren't built for that.
:) i am not hating on gt,because if they can't do it as of right now they can't.But Man did Forza 6 get shitted on for not having it,people said last gen games like Gt6 had it but Forza 6 didn't.Hmmmm.Looks like Forza 6 was quite the impressive game after all.
Sounds a bit disappointing, but maybe this will be a Gran Turismo I can like. Good Job on the post.
Wow, major letdown honestly... Don't know how to feel about this.
Well, at least we can set weather and time. But it still sound disappointing.
No dynamic time and weather in a sim is disappointing.