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Nope...unless we gunna say scorpio is a new console sony sits on a 2 to 1 lead in sales... Even if neo sells bad it still has a 20mil lead (likly much more by launch) The neo is a ps4 just like the elite xbox one is a xbox one. Scared of what? I can't see people trading in a ps4 for scorpio, when they can just put it towards neo and still be able to play the ps4 games they have. Also let's assume the rumors are true and scorpios power is higher. ...a few things come to mind. Price- say what you will but in the console world this matters. Games- gamers are getting tired of the halo forza gears repeat cycle. Ms needs to make some new games Pronto. Design- just make it look attractive. That's opinion but it's just huge
Nobody's talking about sales though. I'm an Xbox gamer and I don't think Sony should be worried. This will be interesting though. It will reveal if the gaming community is all about power, or preference. I honestly think its the latter because Xbox has had the most powerful console twice. "Ms needs to make some new games Pronto." I'm not even going to make the list of new games coming. Its redundant.
Make the list.....please make a list... Also point out the: AAA exclusives. AAA console exclusives. And the indies. And néw AAA ips...as in totally new like qb was Don't include ki dlc ...that's not a game. And show me release dates. I promise you'd be surprised by how many TBA release dates there are. If you want to add crackdown ...fine but that's just the mp beta which is tba..the full game is supposed to release sometime next year. It's crazy that we don't even know when cup head is coming. Trust me I'm waiting for the games but it's been barren....this year we've only had qb...next is gears...that's 2.
I didn't invest in a PS4 because it was more powerful than the Xbox one. I invest in a ps4 because I like their exclusives and diverse games. I invest in an Xbox one because of Gears of War 4. I'm a fan of that franchise. Had nothing to do with power. It's always been about the games to me.
trash360: Your fear is so real.... :D
Fear? Lol I don't work for sony or ms. Lmao, wait.. I do fear that I wasted 350$ on a gaming console that won't have actual games.
Nobody's talking about sales though Ms and Sony are talking about sales
Once, not twice. The OG Xbox was released after PS2 been running. A year later release with time, of course it'll be more tech up then. After that, you should know check your specs, history, and info fam. You're really misinformed. And games.... Bruh Xbox got a few good titles, but Sony got the variety of those titles. Microsoft is tunnel visioned and lacks time to let creativity flourish. Objectively, Sony offer more value to gaming as a whole.
@Kingthrash360 Let me you in on the leaked list for Xbox One exclusives for 2017 and 2018 2017 Scalebound Halo Forza 2018 Gears Forza
It is funny how this generation they did all this Forza/Halo/Gears swithchero even earlier in the gen,.. At least with xbox 360 they tried and had some games first 4 years. MS does not need Kinect to suck apparently.
And a 4x xbox one in power is still xbox one with no games.. First they should release some decent games it has been laughable so far..
@Kingthrash360 they would sale or trade in their ps4 and get an xbox scorpio for the same reason they claimed that they bought a ps4. it will be a much more powerful system and it will have the better versions of the mulitplats. it will also be the go to system for development. this is why. plus it shows that microsoft has learned from all of it's mistakes, so expect the call of duty deal to go back to the xbox very soon. this will be the return of the xbox in a big way and with phil spencer in chanrge, they won't loose.
Unless activision pays out their deal, they are probably sticki g eith sony for the rest of this gen. Why would it be the system to develop for. Even after the UWP , devs still say its easier to develop for ps4 over xbox. So unless ms completely changes their UWP than itll still be easier to develop for ps4.
You have it confused...the problem with xbox and people picking ps4 was: At first ..all the restrictions, always online, no trades...yada, yada The icing on the cake was e3 when the price range was announced and the ps4 was proven to be not only more powerful, but cheaper too. There was no coming back from that. They wont loose? Lol Question. ...what has phil done? What games has he brought? We lost games like fable We gained nothing but a relatable person....but all he does is sit on twitter all day....what new development teams has he got us? None....then what?
Nobody's talking about sales though Ms answer Sony are talking about sales
@Kingthrash360 all of those negative reasons that you just listed as the reasons for the x1 not being able to take the ps4 no longer exist. so what will be the hold back now??? in fact, 80 to 90% of the things that you listed didn't last long or didn't happen at all. it was just talk or something short lived and corrected on the fly. but this new console won't have any of those so called negatives. stronger/superior tech that can't be touched by nintendo or sony better network (as usual) better controller (as usual) the best games for the hardcore (not that kiddie anime crap or indie 8bit crap that can be done on a cellphone) a much larger install base (xbox and windows pc community combined) backwards and forwards compatibility (360/x1/and going forward) (permanent compatibility) and a company that can afford any new ip (exlusive or timed) and dlc (call of duty WILL go back to the xbox) and none of the setbacks that hindered the x1 original (NONE!!!)
Oh man thats dunny, Sony doesn't have a damn thing to worry aboot from the M$ camp.
i don't believe they do either. But, let people think what they want to think. This isn't the first time people have came out with countless articles about how Sony should be worried about something that MS is doing. We already know how that usually turns out.
Maybe yes if its one third more powerful and $100 cheaper than the neo..... other than that no
Sony is losing concern over what MS does anymore. Ignoring the BC update and Live features,20 million ahead of Xbox worldwide and launching VR this fall. Not only that these persistent rumors of enhanced consoles,Sony is now interested in the harvest not the sowing any longer. Microsoft and Ninty have their own matters to attend.
LOL, hilarious. Can always count on N4G for the best laughable hyperbole on the internet.
Ha! - you should lurk on NeoGAF more, hyperbole is their mantra.
Sony could always up the ante by doing like a low mid and high spec machines. Aka ps4 base model . Ps4 Neo as mod tier model and ps5 as high end console
That's a great model... NOT! Why would you want 3-4 different consoles in the market with slightly different hardware? The testing and certification is going to be a nightmare for games, and cause all sorts of problems. If this was a sensible solution, MS would have done that out of the gate with the XB1. The cycle is there for 3-4 years until next mid-cycle release and then MS/Sony both probably will have similar specs since they are both based on same technology.
Well considering the Neo is only for VR, the Scorpio being a reactionary console with 4x the specs that you can power a plane with wouldn't exactly surprise me. Sony are morons and MS are equally moronic as they work AGAINST the actual talk. So apparently consoles work like phones now? They CAN'T successfully do that but hey ho. Those greedy monsters will try.
Funny how some people keep pushing the "Neo is only for VR" crap... It's not. PSVR works perfectly fine on the current PS4. Could a better PS4 not just push the graphics of regular games but also PSVR games? Yes, yes, it could. Remember that leak from GiantBomb which everyone uses the specs from? Well, that one also said that no single game was allowed to be made for the Neo exclusively, since PSVR games are still running on the PS4 they can't make PSVR Neo only games... Besides, what the heck are we even doing here? We're discussing rumours...
PSVR isn't even out yet. Sooooooo My theory of you need a powerful machine to run VR vs your lack of evidence......i am going to stick with my theory thanks. Stupid nutters.
Not only that, people are basing the Scorpio 4x specs over the Xbox 1 off of rumored PS4 Neo specs! Meaning technically no one even knows what the Neo will actually have under the hood! It's all just conjecture. Sony are magical when it come to Hardware, a point everyone overlooks each generation. For example when rumours were swirling around about Orbis and Durango, everyone said the exact same things! Durango was reportedly 50% more powerful than Orbis. Look how that turned out? The exact opposite, plus cheaper. The thing is Sony knows how to manufacturer chips and have tanken a hands on approach and active role in development of their specialized chips, Microsoft doesn't. Microsoft ask for a chip to certain specifications and that's it. Sony knows the roles of the specifications they ask for in a specialized chip.
Well, let's see here, you call me a stupid nutter and also my view has lack of evidence, hmmm, interesting. So what we have is this: - PSVR is coming out, has been demoed using regular PS4s and seems to work vs. - PSVR is coming out, we know nothing about the Neo, not even if it's real, everything we know are still rumours, yet you believe it's needed for PSVR And you call my view "lack of evidence" while yours is based on even more "lack of evidence" Who is the stupid nutter again?
You have to look at where some of these people are really coming from! At this point the ideal that something, anything might finally come to fruition is major in their minds! Think about it, in the beginning there was no need for a more powerful console because Microsofts claims nagated the need for one. Xbox1 was supposedly able to become 3 to 4 times more powerful through the use of the cloud. Edram was supposedly able to give the Xbox1 a theoretical sustainable 209 GB boost, therefore handily outpowering the PS4 in all areas. DX12 was and in some cases still is able to make all games play and perform at lets just say higher fidelity and superior frame rates than its nearest competitors machine. Now that B/C is achievable suddenly last generation games are all the rave, when just a few short years ago its reception was the total opposite. This is just naming a few things, so now the possibility is here for them to finally have an actual thing come to fruition, yeah it's a big thing! @Rainslacker I'd bubble you up if there was still a bubble system, I guess you'll just have to settle for a agree. I agree on all points you made pertaining to both sides. It's become a vicious cycle with no winners when it pertains to us as gamers. The companies themselves are feeding off our negative perception of fanbases we're not associated with or dislike for whatever reasoning. Then our own preferred companies spoonfeed us piecemeal options that should have been all inclusive from the start.
Mine is theory, yours is the abolishment of theory.
@Stuna You forgot that AR is better than VR. VR is a fad, and AR has more potential. etc, etc, etc. Then, Xbox has the best exclusives you can't play anywhere else. Then It's great that they're now on PC, because it means it will sell more consoles and bring more money in for Xbox development. Sony fans have their fair share of flip flopping though. I only say that because people will use that to dismiss any mention of any of the things we cited, because two idiotic sides make a right apparently.
Haha, okay, I get it, you're just being a troll trying to have some fun, gotta wonder how come you are so bored though. And if you're serious, well, I suggest professional treatment.
Lets see Power of the cloud... Sony does not care Dx12 support ....Sony does not care Kinetic removal and new dev SDK with improve specs .....Sony does not care. x360 BC......Sony does not care. Instead Sony are doing PSVR and Neo (Rumor) when the PS4 is already the most powerful now. What does any of this mean? 1. Sony does not care about what MS does 2. Sony only focus on what they can affect themselves.
Well said mate, well said!
Last gen the big 3 sell 300 millions consoles... ps4 have right now 40 mio ms 20 and Nintendo i think 12... The market has to offer room for 200 millions consoles to sell... The companys give a shit if u or a are sure ps4 will win this gen... The room is there...
Room is there, but the current consoles are filling it quickly. It took 8 years to get to 200 million consoles, we aren't even at three years for this generation. This gen is selling faster than last, particularly since the anomalous Wii early sales were slowing down by the 3rd year. In 2-1/2 years, Sony has already sold almost half of what they did in 8 last gen. At the present time, outside of forum goers power concerns, there is no reason for Sony to upgrade their console to bolster sales. MS doesn't really need to either, and Nintendo is set to release a new console anyhow. VR consideration may be a reason to upgrade both consoles, but as of yet, it is an unproven marketplace that may not go anywhere. It's pretty risky to change a console paradigm for an unproven marketplace, because it essentially disrupts a currently successful marketplace, and could bring negative ramifications to consumer perception of what makes consoles appealing in the first place.
Focus should be on the software not the hardware, it just makes more work for the developers, games already take to long to release, it doesn't matter if you have the most powerful hardware in the world but all you do is wait for the games to release.
Should Sony be worried of a rumor that's made up untilĺ Microsoft says different. I'd say no. You guys are so gullible it's gone past being funny.
Silly hypothetical questions that mean little other than to fuel fanboy arguments. A rumour is not 'news' like the chap presenting this podcase seems to acknowledge but then conveniently forgets. If the Xbox Scorpio is announced it remains to be seen whether it is grnuinely more or less powerful than another rumoured future console, the Neo aka PS4.5. There is nothing to stop Microsoft or Sony changing specs on their various future devices and affordibility will be key. But until we actually get come real news from either Microsoft or Sony, all this stuff is just a waste of time. Also the podcast presenter seems to think that an updated console from Sony is a bad thing but if Microsoft does the same then it has the perceived to be a new console. The fact is that no matter how powerful your favourite console is, it is the games which matter the most no one sane will ever say that Microsoft can out gun Sony in that respect.
Oh great, just what we need on this site, another article to set the fanboys off again.
Did anyone read the Digital Foundry article on how it doesn't make financial sense that one can jump ahead of the other on power, based on tech actually available? Would involve huge costs, with no guarantee of better return
I still remember how they used to say that the PS4 should fear xbox One and the power of the cloud lol.
How about nope ? These guys are getting desperate. The only time to get scared is when the next gen starts to take off. Next gen won't start for at least another year or two, if at all...could be longer. PS4 is miles ahead in numbers. Sony won't be losing any, MS probably will gain a few but not enough to take the lead until next gen...probably.
On the plus side, should all these rumors be BS, it may cause people to think a bit more that there is just no secret sauce, or crazy thing, that will make one console better than the other, and instead, they can be wary of unsubstantiated rumors going forward, and instead actually just focus on the games which would make the systems appealing. I know the Xbox fan boys like to think that all these power things will somehow make the console more appealing, but it really is the games that sell a console. More power likely means better running multi-plats, which is appealing to many, but exclusives also draw customers in, and the more exclusives, and the more varied they are, a console has helps drive more people to look at a console as well, and IMO, MS has gotten most of the GeOW, Forza, and Halo fans that buy a console for those games, but haven't offered up much beyond that. To put it in perspective, I brought my X1 for QB, because it was new and fresh and appealed to me. Ultimately, it was a let down and not worth the cost of a console, but it was at least a step in appealing to more people with more variety and intriguing games.
We are still waiting for the power of the DX12, Esram, The Cloud and so on. Stop with this kind of news. It wont change nothing. What important is the power of the brands.
I love my PS4 (don't have an xbone), and MS is not Nintendo. If you give them a chance to fix their mistakes, they will relish the opportunity. Look for MS to go all out. Unlike many Sony fans who have whines and cried about Neo, MS fans will be overjoyed when a new 6 Tera flop machine arrives. I still won't buy one until there are games I like, but I do think MS will jump all over this opportunity.
need to stop my fragrance hobby for quite sometime now and save money... I may get the Neo dont know about scorpio.. But I have a feeling that the next gen would be launched say around 2019 and announced around 2018.. If thats the case how would Neo and Scorpio do in the market. Also this systems are VR ready compared to the original consoles we have now...
So what happened to the massive power increase from the cloud? Did we all forget already? Wasn't the power of the cloud suppose to make the XBOne more power than the PS4? I remember people saying it was going to be a game changer. So what happened to this potential power.
And this time next year, what is to stop a rumour that Sony will be releasing a new PlayStation console late 2018? Sony managed to trounce Xbox, spec wise, when they launched brand new next gen consoles within the same 2 weeks of each other. This will be a cake walk for them and BC will be easier for Sony because they opted to use GDDR5 architecture from the get go this gen.
It's hilarious how Sony fanboys bash Xbox One for having slightly inferior hardware but then defend their rumored and severely inferior PS4 upgrade. Haha. If these rumors are true, it will be a nice long rest of the generation of damage control from Sony fanboys. Digital Foundry wouldn't matter anymore. Superior multi-plats wouldn't matter. Exciting times!
No then we will just be back to the beginning with the Xbox fanboys talking about the superior mult-plats and better hardware, sells, and etc. It's a never ending cycle.
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