Why Don't Other Studios Make Games of 'Uncharted 4''s Caliber?

A few years into the next generation of console gaming and still no cigar.

[SaveFerris]

There isn't any reason why AAA studios can't start now, given the success of the Uncharted franchise.

[Cindy-rella]

Its because a lot of mediocre games with old mechanics and outdated tech sells a lot. Games with a lot of issues at launch sometimes are praised so there arent a lot of incentives to work harder

[SaveFerris]

I can totally see why some studios may want to play it safe n that way, but at least there are some that take risks even if they don't always pay off. But even first party studios aren't completely safe from closure if they don't produce a quality product that is successful.

[Eonjay]

Well, granted, the if it isn't broke don't fix it... but really the reason why ND games tend to be superior is because they hire the best people. The product your company produces is only as good as the talent creating it. They basically pay very, very well, and they look for individuals with sky high skillsets.. Other than that, they have the freedom to make what they want and they know that they have the financial backing of the publisher 100%.

[showtimefolks]

Cindy

I couldn't agree more. Gamers and reviewers will praise broken games like AC unity and Bf4 but than complaint about non issues in good games

How did Bf4 get any 8 out of 10 is beyond me when even EA admitted it was unfinished

How AC unity got 8 out of 10 is a true diesprectful

How destiny and the division set sales record for boring repetitive grind fest game play is beyond me

People don't want quality they want quantity

We as Faber refuse to speak against bad practices. Why or how could Bethesda raise season pass prices without some boycotts

Why is it that publishers want to nickel and dime us but gaming fanboys will defend them

[TwoForce]

I have to agree with you.

[lunatic0001]

I don't get it...uncharted 4 is amazing and a masterpiece...but what did it exactly revolutionize ....it felt like a more refined uncharted game just played better and looked better but it didn't bring anything new to the table either...I know I'm going to get destroyed for this but I just makes me mad that there are great gems out there like ori and blind forest, bloodborne, bayonetta 2 that are in the same league as uncharted 4 and just as good but some how they don't compare to uncharted...I guess it's all about tast

[kneon]

@lunatic0001

You don't need to revolutionize anything. To make a great game you just need to do everything better than it's ever been done before.

[bennissimo]

And yet, ND games are some of the least-risky AAA games ever produced. They're in a proven genre with stale mechanics, which allows the admittedly good writing and acting to rise to the top. It's a worthy formula for sales, but not one for rewriting the way games are made or played.

[bouzebbal]

Talent isn't given to everyone.

[s45gr32]

Damn you are absolutely correct

[Timesplitter14]

I'd say it's not really a question of skill (Well... it probably is sometimes, but not always). It's a question of developper interest, and also a question of money

Games like Uncharted 4 are not the most commercially-viable, and not everyone's cup of tea. For every high-budget AAA game like U4, there is an ultra-simple game like Hearthstone or Dota2 which brings in 5x more money and which people will keep enjoying for several 100's of hours, compared to the usual 10-20 hours a game like U4 provides.

Making super-realistic linear games isn't everyone's ultimate goal. I spend lots of time on fun low-budget games, or open-world games that could never afford to be as highly-polished as U4. These types of games are great too, and we need variety.

[Dario_DC]

I would rather be shot than playing Heartstone or dota2 or any of those moba type crap but that's me.
We need variety and mostly we need polished and finished games at launch.

[PurpHerbison]

Sort of sad how far we have fallen. There was a time when almost every AAA studio was packing some serious heat. I miss the PS2 era.

[DanteVFenris666]

Games are also a lot more expensive and work then they were back then. It's hard to take risks on a 50 million project.

I think in the ps1 day's final fantasy 7 was bragging that it's budget was a million. Ps2 I'm not quite sure what the budget was but game business can be quite scary sometimes.

[thekhurg]

LOL

This article acts like Uncharted 4 is the be all to end all for gaming. WTF...

[_-EDMIX-_]

Well because its not that simple. Its not of something objective ie a company makes a product a certain way like a car or computer, thus others follow the same method.

Gaming is subjective. Naughty Dog believes they are creating a masterpiece no more then any other team working to create a memorable experience. Teams like Naughty Dog, Rockstar North and San Diego, DICE, Kojima productions etc are rare teams and they are not really the norm of gaming.

So when I hear folks say "Why can other studios make games like ___" I sorta ignore it as its ingorant to just think its THAT simple, as if its something they don't know.

ie how to create a Oscar worthy film....

Do you folks seriously think its THAT easy?

Naughty Dog is a rare, one of a kind team. They are not the norm of gaming and likely will never be. JUST like the norm of film won't ALWAYS be some Citizen Kane type film.

Look at shows like Breaking Bad or Mad Men. How many folks do you think likely stated "Why can folks make tv shows like Vince Gilligan and Matthew Wiener". I don't know, maybe because those directors are one of a kind...

Would you really disrespect a team by making it seem as if their work can be mimicked merely based on the game releasing and their ideas being out?

Its not just about how Uncharted looks, its how Uncharted plays, its story/plot, its performances, set pieces etc.

Sure, someone can make a game sorta like Uncharted, but to THEM they believe they are making a masterpiece, thus.....how many do you think already believe this when they make their current games?

Love ND and won't disrespect the team to make it sound as if their game is so simple and can be SOOOOO easily reproduced by other teams. Uncharted series is going to be 10 years old, is their a reason why someone hasn't reached Uncharted levels with another action adventure series?

You can know Martin Scorsese's work....the whole world does.....doesn't mean the cat is out of the bag and suddenly all films will be like his. Its extremely disrespectful not only to the artist but to other artist to suggest that.

I've stated this on this site more times then I can count.

Gaming is an art, it is subjective...not objective.

[generic-user-name]

Because someone has to be the best, to be the pinnacle. Used to be Japanese studios like capcom or Konami, now it's western devs with ND leading them.

[nX]

Pretty much, it's like asking why Arsenal can't win the Champions League. Sure they could, if... nah let's not even start this.

[Deadpooled]

Yeah let's start, Arsenal pass the ball around too much thinking they're like Barcelona but unlike Barca they don't have a reliable output upfront like Barca's MSN. They don't have the steel required at the back to protect the defence like Vieira was back in the invincible years. And the training regime is being questioned due to injuries in the business end of the season(Feb/March time), look at Leicester barely any injuries this season throughout, kept more or less the same starting lineup which works their arses off on the pitch, consistency and got what they deserved, the Premier League title. This was Arsenal's best chance after Chelsea flopping under Mourinho and unpredictable results everywhere and they blew it big time. Arsenal got lucky to finish second after Tottenham's capitulation including that 5-1 hammering by already relegated Newcastle. Next season with Conte at Chelsea, Guardiola at the Blue Moon, Mourinho at the Mancs, Leicester improving, Klopp improving that Liverpool side, West Ham at a new stadium, Tottenham improving and Southampton aswell, Arsenal are going to find it very difficult but signing Granit Xhaka is a good start.

[silvacrest]

Sorry but gotta agree with Deadpooled pretty much 100%, arsenal had their best chance in years, the usual title challengers were just all over the place, arsenal looked good until the season was coming to its end, even managed to get points from Leicester but to little to late.

The worst part is all the top teams will either get a new world class manager or new players or even both, arsenal are notorious for not spending big so who knows

[PX54]

@silvacrest - Arsenal may not have spend big in recent years but even with that they've always qualified for the group stages of the Champions League. Plus the main reason they've not spent big money is because they've been paying off their stadium - now that's all done, they've remained solvent, kept a fairly high standard and as I said consistently qualified for the CL. Plus given Leicester's success this season, it's proof you don't need to spend huge amounts of money. You just need players willing to work, and the right tactics. Top PL teams need to work on destroying big Egos while keeping confidence up.

[game4funz]

There are. You gotta find them. When you're used to playing quality games instead of the repetitive crap like cod or assassin's Creed then you find them.

[Germaximus]

Yet you didn't name a single one?

[Legacy212]

Witcher 3

[Bansai]

Witcher 3, GTA, Red Dead Redemption... some Zelda games, so yeah, there definitely are.

[ThePope]

Alien Isolation, SSOD, Ratchet and Clank, Mass Effect, Skyrim. I can go on.

UC4 is a great game but it is FAR from the pinnacle of gaming. Other games outshine it thoroughly...no matter what metacritic says on the subject.

[game4funz]

Don't need to name them. Everyone will have their own lists. Go find yours, unless. Uncharted is the only high caliber game to you. But for me there's many more.

The idea that uncharted is the only high caliber game out there is retarded. It's like saying there's only one super realistic painting out there. No. There are many more.

[ShadowKnight]

Lol

[Dario_DC]

Witcher 3 was a buggy mess at launch! People REALLY have a short memory! The horse was broken, bugs gallore, crappy/slow/clunky combat still needs to be fixed, horrible texture streaming, frame-rate on consoles. etc etc. Got better with patching but let's not forget how it came out!
Skyrim is still a buggy mess after all these years! I don't know how can some of you forget these things so quick...

[Imalwaysright]

This year I played Pillars of Eternity, Dark Souls 3 and I'm currently playing Banner Saga. To me they are all better than Uncharted 4.

[_-EDMIX-_]

" instead of the repetitive crap like cod or assassin's Creed then you find them"

Sorry but, even though many regard those games as lessor, the reality is...those games are still releasing most times with very high quality that can only be done by a deeply funded game.

I don't even play AC or COD, but I still recognize that those games are maintaining a certain level of quality if they are still actually moving units.

When games lower quality, they lose sales ,regardless of IP. I agree, we do have quality games, but quality like Uncharted 4, is unheard of. Its NOT the game one should be using as an example as how the WHOLE industry must be as I feel its an extremely high and a unrealistic standard.

Exacept that Uncharted 4 is the Citizen Kane of gaming.

Its not something that ALLLLLLLL games will be. As ALL FILMS are not Citizen Kane level....

[IamTylerDurden1]

A game is only as good as the ppl that make it. Naughty Dog is in a league of their own, but Horizon looks close to Uncharted quality.

[Majin-vegeta]

Horizon has thst."Wow how the hell hasn't anyone tried something like this effect".

[_-EDMIX-_]

" but Horizon looks close to Uncharted quality" in graphics, of course. They are working on 1 platform so can focus on quality, but in regards to the game ,story etc we'll have to wait and see.

Consider if you look at Heavenly Sword, does it not "look" like God Of War quality? Yet how it played clearly determined its future. I'mg getting Horizon Zero Dawn day 1 as I've bought all GG games day 1 since Killzone 2, but nothing in life is guaranteed, it could be bad and we just don't know it yet.

[WeAreLegion]

Heavenly Sword was an excellent title. It did have a bit too much input lag for most people, but it was enjoyable, regardless.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@WeAre- Its not bad, but clearly it wasn't God Of War. My point is merely it didn't have the traction that many might have thought it would have.

[gtxgamer2]

Naughty Dog and Rockstar are the best

[Majin-vegeta]

R* Last good quality game was RDR.GTA 4&5 were utter trash.

[Mr-Dude]

Gta 4 I kinda liked, but Gta V wasn't my cup of tea. RDR that was a awesome game.

[Livecustoms]

'Utter trash' ? are you a fool

[objdadon]

Didn't really care for gta 4 but 5 was a monster!

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I think you meant all GTA are crap. RDR was awesome though.

[DragonDDark]

You're over exaggerating lol

[scark92]

GTA IV was fantastic!

[_-EDMIX-_]

"utter trash" lolz, that was full of exaggeration bud...

[Wallstreet37]

Yeah i would put Rockstar up there given the sheer scope of their games and the amount of detail. I hated gta4 but enjoyed 5 but both did open world better than everyone else.

Naughty dog are my top devs bcus of so many things, not just graphics but solid gameplay, animations, variety of ips, new ips, and out of a sea of games with mp not working day one ND games tend to have good mp aspects working good out the gate!

[_-EDMIX-_]

"I hated gta4 but enjoyed 5 but both did open world better than everyone else" Agreed.

I personally want them to continue to progress and want the next GTA to focus on density vs wide, vast emptiness.

I want GTAVI to be more then just a bigger, better looking GTA, I want it to be a naturally progressive GTA...

I want 80% interiors....seamless lol Even if it means a smaller GTA.

I want to do something different in GTA that lends to the core concepts of GTA vs just more of the same, but bigger.

[shabz666]

naughty dog is just in a class of it's own. the cut scenes, the camera placements, the character development, the technology... just every step of the way, best in it's class. Apart from the shooting though.

But TLOU delivered in that front unlike the uncharted series. so they are truly really capable of delivering the best of all things needed in a third person action adventure game.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Very few can.

[KillZallthebeast]

I am probably the only one here who finds them kind of boring. I loved the last of us, but I just can't get into uncharted.

[KillZallthebeast]

High five 3 people who decided to have an opinion with me

[game4funz]

Uncharted is currently under fanboy protection so anything negative gets trolled. Regardless if it's opinion, personal preference, or an honest critique. That explains your amount of disagrees.

[KillZallthebeast]

Ugh I couldn't have two worse people support me

Crack duck you are okay mostly just meant the idiot that used my comment as an excuse to blindly hate everything

[Wallstreet37]

Its cool to have a different opinion as long as you dont try to negate others opinions due to yours.

Good example is Witcher 3. I found that game extremely boring! Right after i got to Skellig i put it down because i just couldnt. A combination of garbage ballerina combat and to much dialougue just killed it for me. But guess what? Some ppl think its the best game of the generation and i sincerely believe they feel that way.

Gamer4funz...

Your comment is typical of a lame, corny troll. You ever thought that maybe they disagreed not because they dont respect he doesnt like it but because they just love it and dont agree. Let me guess??? All those 10s from professional reviewers are also because uts under fan protection lol smh

On the flip side of it you know how many hating, sad, mad at the world trolls say they don't like it just because its not on their console of choice lol hahaha ive seen many salt tears cascading around here when the reviews came out :)

[game4funz]

I do find it fun to be a troll sometimes. I'm fighting against the disagree system... It doesn't add anything and is primary function seems to be that of making someone's opinion irrelevant.

They should just be able to agree and/or reply. Or like and/or reply.

The down vote system is very weird and doesn't serve much of a purpose. Except a negative one. If you honestly believe all the disagrees were innocent then I accept your response.

[Imalwaysright]

Agreed. Tlou is 10x the better game.

[opinionated]

Laughable.

[Eonjay]

Why?

[opinionated]

Uncharted 4 isn't even the best uncharted game. Naughty Dog themselves have made games with higher caliber. To use it as some kind of gold standard is laughable.

[vickers500]

I agree with you stonewall. Even Uncharted 1 is better than 4. 4 is just a climbing simulator. How people can think it's so great, I'll never know. Graphics probably, and little exposure to good dialogue and good stories.

This article reeks of pathetic uncharted fanboyism. Highest caliber my ass, a climbing sim with a few shootouts, generic characters, a tacked on plot to a franchise that was already done, uncharted 4 is a huge disappointment. The only reason it's getting such high scores is because of the cod mentality, it's infectious. Devs put out a couple of really good games, and from then on, no matter how inferior they become to their predecessors, the faithful loyal fanboys of the franchise gush over it no matter what.

TLoU and uncharted 1-3 were all very high caliber. U4 is not.

[trooper_]

You forgot to say 'in YOUR opinion'.

[opinionated]

Well that's obvious but my opinion is based on objective arguments and not apologist platitudes.

Are you trying to say that uncharted 4 being better is an objective fact? No, that's your opinion but it doesn't have much to stand on.

[PutridPlop]

The writer of this article forgot to say "in my opinion."

[TwoForce]

Pathetic. So how is feel ? You denied that you didn't force someone to please you. But you are still very arrogant and forcefull person. You're laughable. This is where I don't like disrespectful gamer. Your opinion is subjective not objective. I remember how i hate someone who disrespect to the other people work for being cocky and hypocrite . Like seriously, who would do that ? That's just dumb move for doing that. If i were you, I would never be an arrogant person.

[opinionated]

How does what feel? Denied that I didn't force someone to please me lmao? Hey buddy, he asked me and I answered. You do the same thing two, you ask for my opinion and then get pissed at it. Not my problem brah!

[fatsodubmo]

But are you strong enough to point that high powered perception at yourself? What about it?

[TwoForce]

Now your reputation being marked for being highly arrogant gamer. Let me tell you something this, the world is grey. The reason why @Eonjay asked you why you hate ND so much that you already answered. And the real reason why i get pissed at you, because you're an arrogant person.I can deal with ignorance people, but an arrogant people I can't. I can't ignore the arrogant person because they are just disgust me.

Edit : If I believe you are nice, then why you hate the other ? More importantly, i'm the person who doesn't have a scene of humor, but i have scene of respect and honor. I only respect a person with reasonable opinion who are not disrespectful to the other. I never like troll, mock and disrespect to the other.

[opinionated]

I have been nothing but nice to you twoforce. I know you're not a native English speaker so I read your comments 3 times to try and converse with you.

Im respectful even when your intolerance drives you to trash me and my opinions. If you want to talk about arrogance you might want to reflect a little more about what you are really mad about.

[trooper_]

Objectional arguments that are 'YOUR OPINION'. I would think that a game with high scores and possible awards coming up is a very solid experience.

[opinionated]

YOU would think that.. And that's fine. See, I don't base my opinions on review scores, I can come to my own conclusions.

@ratchet
No I didn't lol. I've never even played halo 5.. The last halo I bought was 3.

@stardust
A hate hard-on? Lmao.. So if you don't cradle his nuts in your mouth like the fanboys then you want to hate fuck him? Makes sense.. Or maybe him being director makes the series objectively worse.. Maybe I'll write a blog someday so I can go into full detail without a comment limit. Would you be interested?

[Germany7]

I agree, your posts are laughable.
You said that Halo 5 is the best game of the decade, now that's laughable.

[Magnes]

Agreed Rachel8 my favorite part of halo 5 was fighting the same boss again and again only to fight it again only this time three of the same boss creative to be sure.

[kevnb]

Most games like uncharted just don't have the storytelling or characters to deliver that type of experience.

[Sevir]

The truth is they don't know how! Naughty_Dog's culture, attention to detail and understanding of games and story and fun is really what sets them apart. They get it right.

[DiscoKid]

Because they aren't funded by Sony.

[Rookie_Monster]

The order 1886 was funded by Sony. Bad example.

[DragonDDark]

I think he means for 1st party studios

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah but that kind of proves how much freedom Sony gives developers.

[MasterCornholio]

To be fair each manufacturer has funded terrible games in the past.

But I believe the relationship that Sony has with their developers is the main reasons why you get games like Uncharted 4 and Horizon for example.

[Germany7]

At least Sony creates exclusives, Microsoft only creates Halo, Gears and Forza, probably these series will not be exclusive anymore.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Scary, but I might agree with Rookie. Naughty Dog is a great team and would have always been a great team if they were anywhere else that also allowed them to create with some freedom.

ie a publisher equal to Sony in regards to control. Rockstar and Kojima productions are world class studios that released content not funded by Sony or a first party..

I think if Sony was a 3rd party,you'd merely see Uncharted 4 on 3 platforms still doing gangbusters.

[jagstar44]

irrational games were just as good, but they're gone now :(

[Hold_It]

Maybe most developers would rather just make video games without a SJW/Feminist agenda instead of making a graphically amazing game with one of those said agendas and super linear gameplay?

It's okay to have favorite developers and what not, but acting like they are above everyone else is pretty blantant fanboyism, especially Naughty Dog.

[remixx116]

Why especially naughty dog?? I mean, they have earned it, from crash bandicoot to jak and daxter to uncharted to the last of us they definitely earned their status. Get the hate out ya blood.

Also why is it that any game with strong female characters has an immediate sjw agenda. Man you anti-feminists are just as bad as the feminists themselves.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Except uc 4 isn't super linear you would have known that if you had actually played it. Madagascar was freaking huge has well has chapter 12 when you drive the boats to different islands. Scotland was quite big also and every chapter had multiple routes to get to the place you needed to go. With all that said even if it was super linear there wouldn't be anything wrong with that and imo it's better than big,empty world's filled with hours upon hours of filler like 90 percent of open world games just so gamers can say hurr look at all those game play hours this is the greatest game ever.

[TwoForce]

I'm not feminist, but I'm respect thier culture and history. Look, not every individual group are pure evil. There are good people and bad people out there. Seriously, your anti feminist are just bad as their. I don't give a s*** about feminist, racist and gender BS. I don't mind a character who is male or woman, white or black. I only care who good or bad. ND had earned their credit since the first Crash Bandicoot game.

[jb227]

"Maybe most developers would rather just make video games without a SJW/Feminist agenda"

Stopped reading there, and filed your opinions in the "invalid" category. Love how any game that includes a female or a POC is now possessive of an "agenda". Maybe the millions of gamers that enjoy ND's work in the gaming realm & the hundreds of reviewers who have called their output masterpiece status, game of the year, game of the generation crowning achievement worthy material actually have a point in that ND have meticulous attention to detail & are very well versed in their craft?

Or maybe the key to Naughty Dog's entire success is "because Feminism"....yeah, you are right, it's probably that one.

[Germany7]

You never played Uncharted 4 because it's not linear at all.
Trolls are getting worse, like this guy, sometimes i miss Aussie_Gamer.

[WeAreLegion]

Where are you getting the agenda thing from? Wasn't in the game at all.

[Lenrulesdaworld]

really, uncharted is a great franchise but it's not perfect. There are other great franchise out there as well but i digress on n4g.

[maybelovehate]

Their production values are very high and on another level, but there are a lot of games I rank higher such as: Bloodborne, Dark Souls and Ori.

[DragonDDark]

Ori is good but higher than uncharted ?

[maybelovehate]

Actually much higher for me. I love that game. Still haven't beat all the challenges but I will be trying forever. Uncharted for me are games I spend a few days on and then usually never touch again. I always remember and love the experience, but as far as challenge and gameplay goes not close to the games I mentioned.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

I loved ori bought it twice but lol I would never put it above any uc games.

[senorfartcushion]

First off, Remedy are that caliber.

The reason why no other company has that kind of passion?

Because those with that passion are then hired by both Remedy and Naughty Dog

Or maybe you just don't notice just how good some dev teams are (COD devs, ID, Machine Games, Visceral) making games is VERY HARD and anyone who can do that on a AAA level is of that caliber.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Please I liked quantum break but remedy isn't even close to nd level

[senorfartcushion]

Sigh

[jb227]

When Remedy releases more than 1 title per gen, and all of those titles are considered the absolute pinnacle of their genre, then they can be that caliber.

They've got similar mind states, and Remedy is capable of absolute greatness, but for whatever reason they drag their feet & they make some poor decisions for their games and they end up pretty divisive. I personally think if Remedy were to get new publishers and pivot to pure multiplat status, they could actually realize their potential in a much stronger way & actually give ND a run for their money. As it stands they aren't really even in the same ballpark as ND.

[senorfartcushion]

Why is it always about winning unwinable made up competitions?

If you said what you just said to me to a Naughty Dog employee, they would silence you.

[Magnes]

@fartcusion Honestly how do you know what a Naughty Dog employee would do you don't so what you said was nonsense.

[jb227]

@senor

"Why is it always about winning unwinable made up competitions? "

That's kind of the point, it's not an unwinnable competition because ND are doing literally that. The point is that for Remedy to truly be on ND's level, they have a lot more showing & proving to do still yet. I honestly don't think it is impossible for Remedy to start cranking out more than a single title per gen, they just need to find a way to keep themselves relevant in that way. I know they have been against growing their studio, but are they against that out of some kind of principle, or have they just never had the capital from MS to do so? That's why I think they should find a big publisher that will hand them more capital to spend on the actual games themselves over blowing so much on marketing, give them an open canvas & not push extraneous stuff on them.

I've always had the notion that the entire live tv portion of QB was an edict from MS, a holdover from the 'TV, TV, TV' forecast for the XBO, and that Remedy just didn't have the capital to turn back even if they wanted to as the ball was already rolling. The recent word of Lionhead wanting to make Fable 4 but MS forcing them into the F2P realm is kinda proof positive that at least as of a year or two ago, MS asked a lot of their partners, and it wasn't necessarily in their own best interests.

The best thing for Remedy to do is go multiplat. I think given freedom & time they could absolutely get on ND's level, but as it stands, they simply aren't. One solid well loved title for the entirety of last gen vs. 4 from ND, there just isn't much of a contest there. Hopefully this gen they will finally take the leap, stretch their legs somewhere other than MS, expand their team, focus on games over live action, and really make a universal classic along the lines of TLOU. I don't doubt that they are capable of it.

[MasterCornholio]

"First off, Remedy are that caliber. "

Not really otherwise they would have pulled an Uncharted 4 or The Witcher 3 with QuantumBreak. Instead we have divisive opinions on the title.

[PutridPlop]

Because it's an Xbox game.

[Braxmapoutras]

@therightside
Since when a game on Xbox is inherently bad?
Here comes the hate parade and console fanboyism .....stop labeling situations....
It's a game not everyone is fond of like every game out there....
But due to the fact that they have been hyping it to oblivion (like halo 5's campaign) before it came out and ended up being controversial because they didn't deliver....just like the order 1886....but you don't see people going around spreading excuses saying that people hate it because it's on ps4...they just weren't so good games ....simple as that...
If you want a console war take a ps4 and an Xbox one and start smacking them with one another and the one that works after that is the winner....
Maybe this will satisfy you...

P.s In case you didn't realize I mock your notion that people hate Xbox
and by posting your stupid comment you thought you were a smartass.... So mature....

[TwoForce]

It's just how ND does. They know how to make a great game.

[Thatguy-310]

Not every studio has the same type of talent.

[filigreti]

they hate them cuz they aint them

[PistolsAtDawn]

They do. Only a fanboy would see things this way. UC4 is a great game, but some people are getting too carried away. It's not THE best looking game, it looks great, but most of what makes it look great is the direction...not strictly the graphics. The game flat out has amazing story-telling and voice acting...no faults there at all. However, the character animations are stale, compared to other games of the same caliber (esp if you look at QB's facial animations). The stealth combat is fun, but the active cover/combat system are really bad, and AI is horrible. I think what has people confused is that ND put nearly all the resources into making a great looking game...which is a great idea for a narrative game, but not so much into gameplay aspects like other games did...so not only are other companies able to make games as great as UC4, they already have, and even better. It's time to come back to reality. It's a great game...but just leave it as that...let's not over-inflate this one like happened to TLoU

[senorfartcushion]

It was a mistake just talking about Quantum Break, it DOES have better facial animations but so does LA Noir and The Order: 1886.

You will now be labeled a fanboy by the other fanboys.

Max Payne 3 has better gunplay

Assassin's Creed has better climbing and running systems

God of War has bigger and more interesting set pieces

Quantum Break has a better story and more interesting Lore but Uncharted's characters have more personality.

It is all "balls in the air."

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Really that's why technical analysis like digital foundry stated the exact opposite. Don't be a fanboy quantum break looked good but it did nothing better than uc 4 it just didn't

[senorfartcushion]

I'm bored of this "ps vs xbox" annoyance.

Shut it, i do not care about your precious console war.

Then again, you aren't a game dev so you wouldn't know anything would you?

[Magnes]

@fartcushion you aren't a game developer either so you invalidated your own point.

[starchild]

@Dark_Knightmare2

I kind of doubt Digital Foundry said "Uncharted 4 does literally everything better than Quantum Break". They wouldn't say something like that because it isn't true and they would lose credibility.

I liked both games a whole lot. I could get into which things I think each of them did better than the other, but I think most people here are too sensitive to have an open, sincere conversation like that.

[jb227]

God, just stop. You obviously haven't played it. Animations in UC4 are hands down the biggest achievement. They are simply some of the best animations ever seen in a game & they absolutely trounce QB, anyone could tell you that. QB doesn't even have a reload animation...the movement is floaty...the QB animations are roughly on par w/ Infamous. They both look very similar.

The core gameplay is great fun, and it is good enough to receive a 93 on MC, dozens of perfect scores & 3 million in sales on release.

Just stop w/ this agenda Pistols, it is getting incredibly old. Your bias is clear & obvious, and just stating that UC4 has "amazing story telling & voice acting" is not enough to make you look even headed in this instance when you go on to make baseless accusations.

You can disagree w/ the premise of the article, but when you blatantly try to state these things as objective facts, do you not see how hypocritical it is to go on to say that ND is definitively decent & undeserving of these praises?

[Stogz]

Lol and here's FanboyAtDawn telling others how not to be fanboys. Dude no one on this thread takes your comments seriously. You're a known fanboy who does all he can to disparage this game and will do all you can to promote anything xbox. So tired of your pathetic, obvious bias pretending to be unbiased...

[Kurdishcurse]

Leave the naughty dog fans alone..
Their dillusions will always get the better of their logic the 1st year of every ND game release. Come back in a year when they got their head out of NDs dark ring.

[WellyUK]

I wouldn't say it has amazing story telling because the story in uncharted 4 is pretty pointless at best. Great game but it lacks in areas.

[PlayTheGameBro]

Well don't ND only work on the PlayStation platform (correct me if i'm wrong)? Developing for one system, you should know all there is to how the systems are built. Therefore, they know how to push the graphics to the limits on that platform. With 3rd party studios, they got to develop for 2 or more different platforms in a certain time period. That means they got to learn the system head to toe and do what they can with the game so it meets the expectations. Outstanding graphics are a given being they're a first party Sony studio (correct me again if i am wrong). In terms of gameplay and story tellin, thats all talent at ND.

[jcnba28]

Lol

[Wh15ky]

Why can't all movies be as good as The Godfather?

[senorfartcushion]

XD film is subjective. No film can be "as good as" another. It is all about how much you like the film so the question you should ask is:

Why can't i like a film as much as i like the Godfather.

[Kurdishcurse]

Hollyyy....i cannot believe you were downvoted for saying the most balanced and least biased comment ive ever seen in a UC comment section...seriously ND fanboys are a poisonous bunch that dont know when they are shooting themselves in the foot...after the metacritic fiasco claiming they did it for "morals" and "ethics". Pitifully pathetic.

[starchild]

Videogames, too, are equally subjective. Your comment was insightful and it's sad it was downvoted that much.

[SegaGamer]

Why is your comment getting down voted ?

I hate the way the gaming community is now, it seem's like everybody has to like the same things and if you don't agree with the popular opinion, you are shouted down for it.

[Wh15ky]

Perhaps I didn't quite word that comment correctly, meant good as in quality.
I was actually poking fun at the article, not bigging up UC4, I haven't even played UC4 yet.

As for the other comments, why is everybody getting so upset over 6 down votes?

[Big_Game_Hunters]

For most studios its budget.
The real bar is Platinum, Low budget, highest quality.

[MainstreamGamer]

High quality like their new TMNT game, right?

[DragonDDark]

That one sucked.

[MasterCornholio]

The only reason why the game is crappy is because the Turtles live in the sewers. Everything else is just pizza.

They should have tossed the script into the paper shredder.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

The only reason that game is getting such low scores is because the price. It actually makes platinum look even better, what they can accomplish with the 15$ indie game budget activision is giving them.

[MainstreamGamer]

@Big_Game_Hunters ----They should have never made a deal with the devil then.....but I guess whatever helps them pay the bills.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

it comes down to cost and talent. talented people can take cost a lot further. why doesn't every artist just paint the mona lisa? some people/companies are just better at doing things and having the right people teamed together creates a game like UC4

[Relientk77]

Because Naughty Dog are on their own level

[airforcex]

Who writes these articles? It's all about $$$.

[lolosgolos]

Witcher 3 and GTAV far outshine Uncharted 4 in everything other than graphics which is due to uncharted's smaller scale

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Lol Witcher 3 was awesome and gta 5 was good but neither of them are better than uc 4 imo

[starchild]

I love Uncharted 4 like crazy, but I still love The Witcher 3 more. It's one of my two favorite games of all time.

[TwoForce]

And do you think every open world games are good ? Linear games are here to stay.

[Artemidorus]

Because people keep paying for yearly PC mods that get put on a disc and sold for full retail.

No need to do anything else.

[Lord_of_Cinder]

I believe that in order to make a game with the high caliber as Uncharted 4, you need a very good and passionate team that's United and well managed. You don't get that on a new team that easily, it can take years. And then you need a company that believes in your work and supports you, give you flexibility, freedom to pursue your vision, in this case, like Sony.

All those ingredients in place makes for a high caliber studio like Naughty Dog and others like Santa Monica, Guerilla, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule.

[kenwonobi]

After seeing it in action I'm kinda surprised some games aren't even close in visuals at least. If not story too. Seems like creating story driven action games would be easy this generation. Without having to be heavy on quick time events. Uncharted excels at something others rarely do right except in cutscenes. Even after the cytscene it keeps telling a story while walking through the game and during action pieces. He keeps describing clues to himself. Which is easier than pointing out a clue in game. The story unfolds seamlessly. This is what games that are good usually do. Gears of War, Uncharted, TLOU, Tomb Raider, Until Dawn.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Because some developers rush out poorly optimized games that need huge patches to meet deadlines instead of delaying it for quality.

And also, because gamers run out and buy these poorly optimized games that need huge patches instead of calling developers on their garbage releases.

But instead of doing that, gamers are willing to run out and buy mid gen upgraded consoles if the rumors are true hoping to get uncharted quality in every game at 4K/1080p/60fps which will never happen. As all developers aren't at the same level or have the same financial backing.

Quality comes from taking your time to do/make something right the first time. Not about fixing it later. That applies to everything in life.

[kpanda]

That's because ND are masters at their craft, focusing even on the tiniest of details. Plus it's the freedom Sony gives them. Most games have too many dirty corporate suits trying to stick their hands in things, focusing only on maximizing profits rather than a well made game that they're never gonna play.

[N0TaB0T]

Because N4G can't ever put Uncharted 4 worship on the back-burner.

I'm not dissing your game so lay off the salt, just saying.

[Kurdishcurse]

Agreed...litteraly got banned for badmouthing this mediocore game and ignoring the constant stream of insults, accusations and dismissals. I have never seen a worse fan base than these guys. Nintendo and cod fans combined are telletubies compared to them.

[WellyUK]

you say anything slightly negative about a Naughty Dog game then your going to be killed on N4G.

[g-nome]

'We deserve' ..... please , gamers complain about the littlest things and probably the most difficult crowd to please in all of the entertainment industry.

[lunatic0001]

Well there are...I think witcher 3 is a perfect example...it just depends on what you like...ori and the blind forest is my favorite game this gen...uncharted 4 is amazing... it's not the greatest game in the world imo....best looking game possibly but bayonetta 2 was just as awesome and fun as uncharted 4 even if didn't look just as good..it's all about taste

[Keregan]

Imo The Witcher 3 smokes UC4 in every department

[starchild]

I love both games, but as a total experience I do prefer The Witcher 3.

[Keregan]

Yeah me to, but at the end of the day, if i ask myself which one entertain me the most, the answer is the Witcher by far

[Dan_scruggs]

Because Uncharted is a tiny sliver of a game with an extremely linear flow and focused non branching narrative. If you ask why a game like Fallout 4 with all its across the board customization and open source modding tools doesn't look as good as Uncharted 4 then its clear you know nothing about game development.

[RosweeSon]

It's hard to do in the 12 months big developers like to allow themselves for Forza, Cod, FIFA, Assasins.

[Sweetbrandigirl]

Thats the 64 thousand dollar question. I've wondered about this myself for years now. I'm assuming that programmers at one studio are just as talented and smart as they are at Naughty Dog so why can't these other studios produce Naughty Dog quality games ?

[3-4-5]

* This is like asking why every Hockey player isn't as good as Wayne Gretzky.

Some people are just better at what they do than others......................al so leadership helps.

[Nivekki]

I think there's more than a few reasons why.

One is that they are a bunch of extremely talented developers, there's no question about that, they are amazing at what they do.

Another is the fact they only have to develop for one system, they can concentrate on that one system and they know the system well because they have experts who were involved with design of the PS4. They know it inside and out. A lot of devs don't have that luxury, they have to develop for multiple systems which adds a lot more work which means splitting more resources.

And that leads to a major point - Time. Time is a major resource that developers don't have a lot of, they have deadlines which need to be met. ND have that luxury as well, they still have deadlines but I'm sure they have far more leeway in that regard when compared to other devs, especially third party devs.

But the biggest one I can think of is money, and not the way you might think I'm talking about. ND can comfortably develop knowing they don't have to worry much about financial difficulties but I'm talking about the way publishers think in terms of money. They want what is going to sell the most, what they can turn into a yearly or bi-yearly cash cow. A game like UC4 doesn't fit the bill on their spreadsheets.

[Brugal]

That's like saying why don't all rock bands make music of Rolling Stones caliber. Naughty Dog is the cream of the crop when it comes to game development.

[BlakHavoc]

I would argue that R* makes similar caliber games

[marioJP87]

Grand theft auto is unmatched. A game that even people who dont play games know about.

[BlakHavoc]

Love GTA! Its just a fun ass game period, doesn't compare graphically and the presentation isn't as good as UC but its just as enjoyable for me. Theres a reason GTA sells so much, I think its like 90+ mil for 5??!!

[Cartman55125]

"Why doesn't every NBA player play as well as LeBron James?"

[marioJP87]

And why dont naughty dog make multiplayer games like other studio's caliber? (This tea is good)
Naughty Dog are still my dudes though.

[Cueil]

They earned the right to spend the money to make games that look this good...

[Germany7]

Naughty Dog is the best studio nowadays.
Rockstar, From Software, Nintendo studios are also special.

[Ristul]

I would ad CD Project Red to that list.

[theFAYEsorceress]

not all studios are as talented as nd, simple as that. it's the same reason why every athlete isn't a superstar player. you can throw all the money you want, or as many people as you want at a project, but if you don't have the talent, you're not gonna get anything from it.

[scark92]

Naughty Dog make the best because they hire the best!

[Reefskye]

*Edit* Nvm

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

I'd say the primary reason is money. Pure and simple. Uncharted 4 would have had a budget equivelant of a Hollywood movie. Sony would have ponied up a fair portion of that, and thusly big studios only have a certain amount of budget to throw at a very small amount of projects per console life cycle. Making games is a very expensive and time consuming business!

[starchild]

Is that Donnie Yen in your pic? Thumbs up just for that. Awesome actor and martial artist. Been a big fan for many years.

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

Yep, sure is. Big fan since the I first saw Tiger Cage back in the early 90's. He's still going strong!

[benji101]

1. The game was less successful than Skyward sword.
2. Making games with average mechanics and story heavy cutscenes is expensive and usually means the game will have short legs.
3. Pretty games dont mean good games. Good story does not mean good mechanics. Uncharted 4 value already nose dived after 2 weeks.

[Paulino30]

Dark souls (series), bloodborne, Mass effect (series), new tomb raider? To name a few..No? Maybe?

[Kurdishcurse]

Agreed. Hell even naughty dog devs adore dark souls and especially bloodborne. 2 ND co creators stated that there favorite game last year was bloodborne and even begged the creator of the soulsborne franchise to have a get together. Unfortunately he declined because miyazaki sama is so shy and timid. Which makes me question his mental health seeing the contrast between his EFFFFED up games and his real personality. Miayzaki kawaai desuu!

[Max-Zorin]

Why don't other directors make movies of Scarface's caliber?

[oIITSBIIo]

We need more CD project red like.

[Skankinruby]

Because they're not good enough, plain and simple

[Petebloodyonion]

1) Money.... It's always come down to money! Sony can afford to invest a couple millions $ into a PS4 game.
The same can't be said about the majority of publishers.

2) Risk/reward: For every successful game, there's a Alien Isolation that was great but didn't sell.

3) Our perception of a Masterpiece. Masterpiece like Uncharted 4 are masterpiece because we want them to be.
Here's a example MGS5, a game that was praise as a masterpiece. The truth is Farcry 4 is a far better game on a technical level. There's a lot more side quests, the world is bigger, graphics are more detailed compared to MGS5, etc. But in the end Farcry is always seen as a 6 to 8 reviewed game while game like MGS 5 will score praise because its made by Kojima.

[Austin48]

Because there either rushed or just plain lazy.Sony gives Naughty dog more freedom and time so that's why there games are amazing.

[xayade]

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[MagicBeanz]

They're not as talented, lets move on.

[TROLLER123]

quality? they are good time passers but all the same! 'here give me a boost' ladder, crumbling ledges, cover shooting, all exact!

[antikbaka]

Because every new IP it's "hit or miss" and you just never know. And some people would say that Undertale's caliber is no less than uncharted

[Kurdishcurse]

The only thing UC is good at is graphics stability and story. The rest is completely cheap and utterly horrid. Especially stealth is extremely poorely implented.

Gun gameplay is garbage, pacing is not that good, weapon variety is silly, shooting set pieces are there as place holders for cutscenes, so much useless banter and silly jokes (we get it nate, hes dead and your jokingly talking to the corse for the 50th time ha haah).

the worst offender so far is the unbelievably laughable enemy variety and design. I have never seen a game with such boring enemies...jezuz even tomb raider had animals in the mix. Got a UC fan saying there are different enemies....uhhm noo just...no. having enemies with different clothes from time to time is not variety, its cheap and lazy game design. If you thought otherwise then i pity your gaming experience.

[Dannylew]

What stupid question is this ?... WHY ???... because people, story, engineering it's not a things that Microsoft or others can buy ... Naughty Dog is a "Studios" that make his story not on shoulders of others... Like Guerrilla, Like Kojima, Like Polyphony.. Like Sony World Wide Studios... all this studios and Game designer are Gods of video games entertainment.
Naughty Dog it's not Ubifake... it's not Trun10 "180" ... it's not 343 industries... it's not microsoft game studios... and never will be other than this.. money grabber with mediocre products for masses.

Naughty Dog make games.. "not numbers for investors to justify Quarters on the year."

Sony and their studios lived on the "Coin OP Game room era" responsible of transforming the entire industry....it's like Mozart or Bach or Chopin... it's not like Miley Cirus or Giovanni Allevi.

it's the basis of video games entertainment.

[PX54]

It's because most studios rest on the previous success, and don't strive for innovation. It's only when there's limitations do the true greats show what they're made of. Plenty of studios are happy enough to say "we want to do this, this and this but we only have space for one". They'll then develop something which might be magnificent in one area but a total let down in every other area. Whereas someone like Naughty Dog will be more like "We want to do this, this and this - what to we have to do to get it all in".
Finding ways around the console limitations pushes development forward and can provide much more innovation than having an open ended, unrestricted system.
There's also the unrealistic pre-determined release dates that publishers give developers, so we end up with broken so called AAA games being released to the market and fixed later on. Or unfinished games which then receive the rest of the game in the form of paid DLC.

[PutridPlop]

Uncharted 4 innovation where? smh.

[PutridPlop]

Uncharted 4 is overhyped it's not doing anything different or better than any other game.

[pyroxxx]

Animation work alone in this game is so far superior than anything seen to date, nothing comes even close. Hell even the relatively simple things like collision detection is on entirely different level.

[PutridPlop]

That's fanboy hyperbole right there. RotTR matches this game on every level and even beats it when it comes to gameplay, yes more shooting less moving crates and climbing and less cut scenes. You can even hunt in RotTR there is plenty of wildlife. UC 4 is overhyped to ridiculous levels.

[pyroxxx]

What has gameplay have to do with animation work or collision detection? I am perfectly fine that you prefer RotTR and don't care,.. (I prefer Bloodborne,hell maybe even DKS3) I just stated what it does better than any other game ,.. And animation work is just on a different level compared to anything in gaming. That is simply a fact.

[sorenx]

Every Nintendo game surpasses uncharted in quality well most mot every. And sorry but uncharted was entirely all that great to me people need to get off that naughty dog bandwagon it's getting anoying and creepy sorry but it's not the best. Game out there.

[quent]

Easier said then done, you need a multi billion dollar company to invest in your project and in return they get to sell more hardware.

[Jon_Targaryen]

Easy, they're scared it flops resulting in them having to foreclose. Easy as that!

[Surt]

Game was a 9 out of 10 for me. Was it the most game breaking game ever tho? No. I'm a FPS player first, so DOOM is something I'm still playing while UC4 is shelved after I beat the story. Is it better then Dark Souls? Some will have a argument for that.

[MilkMan]

Easy. Money, time and commitment.
I know wed all like to think that even the shittiest game was made by morons that just wanted a quick cash grab, but the truth is 99% of all devs want to create a lasting impression and a game that everyone loves. But we fall short of our goals when we run out of the first three I mentioned above.
In Naughty Dogs case, they have been in a plush position working at Sony. They made lemons into lemonade when they created the first Uncharted and Sony has been responsive to their needs. They get carte blanche to do what they wish.
That's not something all devs/studios get to do.

[dcbronco]

They do. Fanboys just refuse to acknowledge them.

[alfcrippinjr]

Naughty Dog know how to delivery good game never seen a bad one yet from them.

[Tonykid]

Because they only hire experienced programmers/ Developers. People who already had a bit of history in this business. This is the only Sony owned company that doesn't take in any interns even though Sony provides a paid internship program that inspiring game developers and ND didnt want any of that. Nowadays

[SpinalRemains138]

Capital/deadlines = fiscally efficient, but the product suffers.

[Gatsu]

I don't care about graphics the most in games, even though I do enjoy watching the details in UC4 or The Witcher 3 etc. But most important is the feels a game can give me. Uncharted 4 isn't at the top in this, Life is Strange is currently there for me along with few others :).

[s45gr32]

Among the Sleep while not as impressive in the visual fidelity department, is a game that its story unfolds through gameplay. It is a game played from the mind of a two year old kid. There is not a lot of games in the same caliber as Uncharted 4 due to mismanagement, greed, and too much focus on the superficial not on gameplay mechanics or game content.

[DivineAssault]

Laziness and greed.. CD Red is a good company like naughty dog though..

[danny818]

publishers are to blame with their time frames and many devleopers arent as focused because of delivering a finished game to many consoles instead of focusing on one console