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Upgradeable Consoles Are A Bad Idea

Brett from The Game Bolt: "In a report that came out Wednesday from Kotaku, and later corroborated by Polygon, Microsoft is planning to release two new Xbox Ones over the next two years. The first, which is expected to be revealed at or around E3 this year, will be a cheaper and smaller model of the Xbox One that may have 4K support for video content. I have no qualms with this model, as we’ve seen this type of idea before with the PS2 Slim, Xbox 360 Elite, PS3 Slim and so on and so forth."

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ninsigma3311d ago

Depends on how they're implemented and how they treat the gamers still gaming on the base models.

kneon3310d ago

All they need to do is require that all games released on the platform must support all models of the console for some period of time. So perhaps something like 2-3 years after a model is no longer in production.

This will allow them to move ahead with a new upgraded model ever few years while still keeping their current customers happy.

ninsigma3310d ago

Yeah exactly. As long as they do that it should be fine but they are companies after all, who knows what they'll do :p

Matology3311d ago (Edited 3311d ago )

So is upgrading TV's, mobiles,technology in general. No evolution without revolution and both Sony and Microsoft are about to revolt.

Aenea3311d ago

Always funny to see that people seem to think it's the same with other devices while it's actually different, but hey, keep on believing your own ideas...

Matology3311d ago

Funny no. Why does tech change then, because people push for it. That is revolution, it is not my own idea, but the idea of many. Keep believing your ideas as well. :)

Aenea3310d ago

The differences:
- TVs will still show the exact same content, 4k TVs are able to look better but it doesn't matter if you bought one 3 years ago or in 3 years there will only be slight differences in your viewing experience
- mobile phones are updated every year, there's absolutely not one thing about each of them that makes anyone go "aww crap, now this and that will work a heck of a lot better on that new model and I would love to get it now!". Well sure, some people always will do that, but there aren't any apps out there that are pushing any particular phone to it's limits like with consoles.

Consoles' specs were always set in stone for a certain amount of time, it has it's downsides, sure, but it also has many upsides to it. Now suddenly changing this probably removes most of the upsides.

it is different, but I suppose no matter what I would write, you will keep your opinion anyways...

zb1ftw7773311d ago

The whole article collapses in the first paragrapgh when the author stated his request of a console upgrade every 5 years as being acceptable.

The Scorpio is touted as a late 2017 release. FOUR years after the xbox one was released.

In essence, the author is arguing over 1 measly year's worth of time period.

Aenea3311d ago

While the rumours say that Sony's Neo is coming this year which is 2 years earlier...

NotoriousWhiz3310d ago

Although if you go go by when the gen actually started. (Wii U). The Scorpio is coming out right on time.

Malacath3310d ago

Unfortunately MS have had no choice but to bring a more powerful model out after the PS4.5 was announced.

Personally I think both consoles should have stuck with the current models or just brought a slim out that run games the same.

Going to be an expensive time for those of us who own both consoles as the temptation to buy the upgraded models will be strong especially when games that take advantage of the extra power are released.

Aenea3310d ago

"announced"? Why are people so convinced that rumours are now facts all of a sudden?

Randostar3310d ago

Just because it hasn't been publicly announced doesn't mean it's a rumor.

Aenea3310d ago (Edited 3310d ago )

@Randostar
The what now? Seriously? That's hilarious!

It hasn't been announced ergo it's still a rumour, there is no proof of it anywhere. Even GiantBomb who claimed to have the documents they wrote extensively about couldn't even been bothered to include a picture of it.

I'm not saying it's all false and it doesn't exist but there is no proof and the only way we've heard about it is thru rumours...

Edit:
Definition of rumour: a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts

NotoriousWhiz3310d ago

There are credible rumors, and there are non-credible rumors. Chances are this one is based in lots of truth.

Aenea3310d ago

@notorious
That's the thing, credible rumours are still rumours.

And if I'm honest I never found them credible since there still is nothing to back it up. I'm expecting a newer PS4 is coming but I wouldn't be surprised if none of the leaks had it right. I do seriously hope though that both MS and Sony will reveal more about this sooner rather than later...

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OB1Biker3310d ago (Edited 3310d ago )

Id say, of course its easy with hindsight, both were predictable.
Ms change of direction after disastrous beginning showed they would come up with a new model sooner than usual and Playstation direction wouldnt rest on their laurels and would see an upgrade as inevitable. Both want to remain competitive vs the competition
Any supposed 'announcement' or leaks in the last few week are not going to put things in motion all of a sudden. Both upgraded consoles were PLANNED for a long time now.

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Moz3310d ago

So many of these articles talking about people feeling left out because someone else has a better version then them or feeling pressured to upgrade. But these are feeling not felt by the majority of consumers and this is backed up by sales figures. Everyone buys a new console when they're ready to regardless of the cycle duration. If everyone or even the majority of people felt they had to upgrade ASAP then the consoles would be supply constrained for their first year on the market but they're not.
Sony and MS are looking at the bigger picture and in today's climate a shorter cycle with smaller increases in power while having forward and backwards compatibility make sense to them. Of course analysts can get it wrong and maybe 4 years from now they be admitting the mistake or they'll be release the next set of new systems

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CrimsonWing6922h ago

Square makes some very weird decisions.

CrashMania21h ago

This is really stupid and just baffling, the explanation for it is also a big non answer, very disappointing.

jeromeface8h ago

its pretty obvious they lost the source code

Scissorman20h ago

they are so going to try to sell the extra content later down the line.

Eonjay18h ago

Square Enix has really gone down the drain. Even FF7: Rebirth, while being an incredible acheivment seemed very sloppy in some areas... namely performance. These folks wonder why their games don't sell but aren't putting in a decent effort.

FinalFantasyFanatic18h ago

It's been like that for a while, they've just gotten progressively worse over time, this game is a bit of a monkey's paw situation. You get the remaster, but you don't get the War Of The Lions content in exchange.

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They seem to be suggesting that people didn't like the new stuff in WotL, hence it's non-inclusion, but they're probably secretly planning to add it as DLC down the line, they just don't want to tell people that because they think it'll get an even worse reaction. When they do eventually add it, they'll be like, "We listened". Of course, it won't be free though, so they'll still get flak for it. On the other hand, maybe I'm too cynical.

ZeekQuattro15h ago

I could see that happening actually.

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