Crytek take to the consoles What does this mean for ALL gamers, console and PC alike.

XboxOz360Gamer's Grant Smythe ponders Crytek's move to consoles.

"It had to happen sooner or later, as more and more developers see the advances consoles are making in "This-Gen" and now heading towards even more advances in the "Next-Gen" iterations which should be beginning to arrive around 2010.

It would be foolish for developers to no longer consider consoles as a main platform for delivering their excellent products. Not only are the getting more advanced, but they have a huge market share that they want to share with other console developers. But the added bonus of reduced piracy is definitely influence many, especially Crytek who's Crysis game was one of the most pirated games last year."

[Cajun Chicken]

Bigger Audience = Money

[XboxOZ360]

Pes, couldn't agree more, and in doing so, means more games for the end users.

Gamers are a weird bunch. They claim they want innovation from their games, Developers come up with new environments and ways of playing games, the gamers revolt saying "why did you break what was already working" when all they need to do is learn a new way of doing things (gamers that is)

They scream for more games, yet when development ghouses team up with major publishers so they don't go broke, they scream the major publishers are ruining the game industry.

The gamer of today is spiolt rotten. Not only for choice of games, but on quality and most importantly, quantity. They need to look at the bigger picture more often than the one that is reflecting back from the mirror.

[xhi4]

who said Crysis was being "take[n] to consoles"?

what the hell.

[XboxOZ360]

Well in order for developers to deal with both pircacy and bigger audiences, they need to move onto consoles as well as PC's now. If hey don't, then they face difficult times ahead.

One only has to look at stores as to the amount of floor space they now allocate to PC titles. about 1/4 or less is dedicated to PC titles now, and stores make a huge amount from dealing with console titles than they do PC titles.

So it makes perfect sense to cover all your bases if you're a developer these days. Plus consoles are able to deal with game advancements now, unlike the previous generation.

[xhi4]

bad lol

[Euphrate]

Crytek games will be average.

[DeadlyFire]

This won't mean anything. They will still have PC titles and their games will likely run better on the PC unless they learn to change the way they make a game.

As far as Piracy goes that is EA and Crytek's own fault for not having an anti-piracy thing in their games. They could use Steam or Securom as a start. They have neither for Crysis do they?

[dro]

i swear a post similar to this alerday came up today, ...wtf!! it dose not mean anything, all it means is that they will now make games for consoles (-_-)

[GrathiusXR]

Crysis have stated quite a few times that after Crysis: Warhead future Crytek games shall appear on the 360/PS3 as there is revenue to be made on consoles and less chance of piracy...

Look at the sales of Crysis sure it sold over 1 million copies but it also got downloaded off the internet a lot and that hurt the sales of Crysis and profit as well..

[GrathiusXR]

Crytek is the developer mate, Crysis is the game.... where in the title does it say Crysis takes to consoles...

Crytek is the company that developed Crysis the game i have no clue what title you are reading mate....

But i think you may just need to look a little harder and maybe read the whole article before posting and making judgment next time perhaps?

[Acj2323]

This will be sweet to see some more games that did so well on the PC to come to consoles

[Bolts]

If they bring Crysis to the console without the PC's uber texture resolutions and amazing graphics then they just lost everything that made the game great. Just ask yourself this, will KZ 2 be a great game if the graphics and textures looks like Haze? I doubt it. Amazing over the top texture and effects is Crysis's main selling point, without that...the game isn't much to write home about.

Plus Crytek sucks at optimization. Their typical method of game design is to squeeze every rendering effects in the book into their game then wait 6 months for the hardware to catch up. This will not work with the consoles as it did with the PC.

[GodGinrai]

I agree about there games not looking as good on console,but most console owners don't play pc games (myself included) so there not going to notice this if they have never seen or played the pc version. I'm sure call of duty looks better on pc but i have a 1080p bravia and surround sound so my ps360 combo does me fine, as i'm sure it does most console only gamers.I've played cod4 on pc and i prefer my set up to squinting over a 19 lcd.

And as far as the KZ2 comment goes,i'm not a big kz fan but if it turns out to have solid gameplay mechanics it would do just fine with haze graphics.graphics can only do so much for a game.

[Andor_Trask]

I dont mean to start any fanboy crap, I am asking a serious question...

Won't this game look a lot worse on PS3 because of the DVD limitation of the Xbox360?

I mean, how many discs will be needed for the Xbox version?

hmmmmmm

[XboxOZ360]

If you read the article you'll find some of your questions answered. Makes me wonder why people comment, when they don't read the articles they are commenting on.

Crytek as well as many other developers are learning new ways of optimizing their game code, using memory (less of it) using much better texturing methods and enhancing the quality of their games by using current technology and getting more from what they have.

Again, if you read it, and others based on this subject, you'll see that the guy being interviewed actually comments that it has them look harder at things, gets their R&D department to find better ways of doing thins which has a knock-on affect in both PC and console gaming.

If anyone has really "really" bothered to check out Ubisoft's Far Cry 2 footage, the map editor and such, you'll see the excellent texturing, modeling and real-time use of the games software, and the stuff that is available on the web atm for viewing using these is - on the 360. Not a PC.

Even Ubisoft say their games are almost even across the board now from PC, 360 and PS3.

As an example, Bad Company, that uses real time "Persistent Environmental Destruction". That used to be really hard to do, and only thought possible on a good gaming PC, By having to work on the smaller memory that the consoles have, they found ways they could still have the PED without having to stream it onto a HDD and use up memory as well.

They called it a "Smoke and mirror's effect" . . They found that by running the destruction as you do it through into the cache, then as you move out of the scene, the normal mapping comes back, no need to write it to the HDD or use real memory, and when you swing around to come back, the cache reloads the damage as it was when you left it .

Just do a google to find out more about it, they even have a video showing how it's done, but some of you might have to 'read' some text though (jk btw)

All using just 512mb of memory, with some left to play with. That is why both PC's and consoles can benefit. The developers become more savvy with what they have to work with, learn ways of working more efficiently and extract the most they can from each game, moving on the next and get even more from that.

[Hueco Muendo Leader]

and thats why metal gear 4 is ONLY on ps3, killzone 2 as well

[Marty8370]

fermcr11 - PC was on 1 DVD, cos all PC games install to hard drive which is standard. 360 lack of space on it's DVD9(360 has 7gb useable space) disks/ lack of standard hard drive in all SKU's is a huge problem. The PS3 having Blu-ray & a standard hard drive in all SKU's, gives PS3 a huge advatage which ever way you look at it.

[XboxOZ360]

You need to do a little more reading mate.

While the BR does have its advantages, and they are great ones, many developers are finding they can now fit even more on a standard DVD dual layer than ever before. What was once tought of impossible, is now actually very easy to do. and it can still deliver very fast frame rates and streaming.

As some developers have said, what one platform lacks, the other picks up on, but that them looses out one something else. So neither is "perfect" and they (developers0 simply learn to get the most from each one.

The main reason MGS4 requires such space is the excellent in-game cut-scenes. If it didn't have those, the game could possibly be placed on a DVD9. BUt the game would be wrecked then, as the video cut scenes are part of the delivery method for the game.

Even just the last few days, the developer of MGS4 said himself he may have overdone it with the cut scenes in MGS4, and probably wouldn't do it that way again. (do a google, you'll find his comments in today or yesterdays gamingnews around the net)

[Hueco Muendo Leader]

i can agree with you on that then

[XboxOZ360]

Just on top of that regarding space.

Remember back when PGR4 was heading our way and someone "leaked" news that Bizarre said they wouldn't be able to fit all of the cars and weather on a single disc due to he insufficient disc space of a DVD9.

Leaks are often purpose drive PR stunts to drive interest and debate high. The fact is, they were able to fit all the various weather conditions, change of days cycles, and even threw windscreen wipers in as well, just to be on the 'safe side' heheheh - and all the cars they said they wanted and even better city detailing, which many 'swore were not in-game man - I call Pre-rendered" etc . . .

SO they fitted without an issue. Then along comes Gears, and theyfit even more on the DVD9's . Look at people's comments regarding Far Cry and Crysis. Saying that nothing like it could run on a console let alone fit on a single DVD9 disc.

Hello, Ubisoft find ways of delivering some of the best gaming visuals on any console (PS3 and 360) that any developer has to date, and they have full environment regeneration in real-time as well as weather, as well as map editors with drop in and play in real time . . . all on a single DVD9

See what I'm saying. As each generation of game titles comes along, developers use their heads to find ways of making not only more fit on a single disc, but also get more performance out of the machines and also delivery even better game experiences each time a new iteration appears.

When we see Fallout 3 on the 360, you'll see just how much they can stuff into a single DVD9 . . . not to mention manyother game titles appearing soon.

One thing many forget is, that while HD does offer huge storage, it also comes with some major problems regarding games. Many developers prefer not to build for it, as it complicates matters, and over 80% or more of gamers still use and have access to the normal DVD9 players and titles.

You don't go biting the hand that feeds you in business, especially in gaming which is some delicate and can mean business one day, closed shop the next.