Joshua, from XOTV, discusses the multiplayer in Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End and how disappointed he is that it feels so similar to Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception.
"There is barely any expansion on the core fundamentals of Uncharted 3"
Title and the above sentence are ambiguous and false. The core fundamentals of Uncharted 4 have been greatly enhanced.
NX Gamer:
"There's far, far more going on in the multiplayer. Animations are absolutely top notch, the 16ms frame time means that samples rates are very high, adding in conjuction with procedural animations great blending, high key frame count and skeletol frames mean that all character movements feel and look, not only natural but convincing.
You can see the same care and attention we see in the single player, from idle animations, cover reactions when shot at to the swinging. The collision interactions are incredibly natural.
If you pay attention, you can also see the pivot point in skeletol rigs as you get shot or react, from changing hands and reloading the guns, even moving the rope over your head."
And let's not disregard what is quite possibily among the best things about Uncharted 4; its fantastic gunplay. It's most probably the best controlling third person shooter on the market, in my opinion. I have played almost every single third person shooter and the closest thing to UC4 is MGSV.
While we're at it, the weapons sound absolutely fantastic.
"The hook rarely feels useful and its addition has been woefully implemented, with it frequently breaking the perfect visuals when in use."
Hook woefully implemented and breaks visuals, Care to elaborate?
"some of those areas are so far detached from where the core action is that one can’t help but wonder why Naughty Dog bothered."
Traversal.
"It feels forced, clunky and completely unnecessary."
To each his own, but I completely disagree, especially after traversing through some of the maps and pulling many rope swing takedowns.
"When I could buy an ability I would have to do finger gymnastics to purchase and then use it"
This is just pathetic; Anecdotal fallacy.
"Change for the sake of change… that’s never the best kind, and yet that’s what’s on display here."
First you say the above in regards to boosters and mysticals, and then you shortly follow it with "Why not go further with the store mechanic and make it so that players can upgrade their guns throughout each match?"
Make your mind up pal.
"Putting shiny new graphics on the same game simply doesn’t cut it!"
True, but that is simply and unequivocally not the case in regards to Uncharted 4.
There's so much in your opinion piece that I can contest towards but I'll leave it for another day.
Yeah looks like a load of twaddle to me, ranting for the sake of ranting. Ive been having a blast with the multiplayer so far. And uhm... does XOTV = Xbox One TV? lol
Aint these the same guys that wrote that other tripe a couple days back. They're on a smear campaign. The lengths supporters go to isn't at all surprising anymore. Massive damage control at its lowest best.
A strange hate piece from 'Xbox One TV' that noone can agree with.... I can't help but think that Microsoft's marketing department went a little too far with this one.... wouldn't be the first time.
Wow...this is kinda a new low of journalism. How is the MP a PS3 game in disguise? I've played both enough to say that UC4 MP has been a smoother experience out of the 2. Although I do miss the dynamic map design from 3. It's certainly not "the best MP EVER!!" by any means but it does the job well and it's really enjoyable for all skill tree level.
Wanna know what is actually a last gen game in disguise? Gears 4 MP! I bet they praise it to heaven's high for sticking to the old formula! But guess what, the formula is so old, the game actually looks like a 360 game! I know it's still a beta but come on! There...I said it!
I would just ignore Xbox one TV, it's a salty xbone fanboy website hating the fact ps4 is absolutely dominating the competition (I use the term competition very very loosely because it's not even close to a competition)
edit: don't listen to bossbattle either another Xbox fanboy
weren't you the one pretending to be some neutral high ground commentator when bubbles existed? lol brilliant😂
p.s also where's your bf gangsta red ? it's unusual to see one without the other.
edit: if you think I was declaring love I think I'd rather not join you in any mp games on psn actually, what ever floats your boat and all that so you are fine to be that way inclined but no thanks.
Yo don't be jealous man. Don't declare your love and obsession for me so openly 😂
The UC mp is half decent but nothing stellar at all. I just find the forced love and declaration by shills quite hilarious tis all. Heck, you can join me for a few games of the mp if you want
Thank you for providing you feedback, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond! My name is Joshua, I am the EiC of XO.TV and I'm also the writer of the article! It's a pleasure to meet you!
To address some of your issues:
I appreciate that you may consider changes to graphics a change in gameplay, however we at XO.TV don't. Everything you listed from the NX Gamer article is about changes to animation and graphics, not the core fundamentals of the game (gameplay).
With regard to the hook being useless, I do elaborate on this sentence. In fact you even quote me elaborating on it. Also I don't believe that traversal is going down to the bottom of a map to hook a lamp-post which then swings you around a car. If you do though, that's great!
Your comments about "anecdotal fallacy" are interesting to me, because the article is clearly marked as an opinion piece both on this site and on the XO.TV website.
Unfortunately your entire comment didn't disprove my point that "Uncharted 4 Is A PlayStation 3 Game In A PlayStation 4 Disguise". In fact, one of your key pieces of evidence was talking about the graphics... If anything you proved me right. Uncharted 4's multiplayer is exactly the same as Uncharted 3's because the only new feature you could highlight are changes to graphical features.
I'm glad you're enjoying Uncharted 4's multiplayer! We're sorry that our own opinions couldn't fall in line with your own. None-the-less, I appreciate you taking the time to provide your feedback!
ahhhh so rubbish dev jealous of naughty dog.....you know if you guys spend more time developing your game making skills rather than troll article "skills" you might make a decent game in a decade or so.
I'd have thought the new powers would have changed it greatly! Not to mention the rope swing and sliding down some terrain. Only played a bit of 3s MP and haven't played 4s MP a part from the beta but there is a fair bit different IMO.
I personally think they added too much to the MP. I would like a game mode with no side kicks or mythicals. But I certainly see why the game i fun for many people.
Joshua has defended the silly review his colleague did of Uncharted 4 and now here he is deriding the UC4 MP:
"There is barely any expansion on the core fundamentals of Uncharted 3" "The hook rarely feels useful and its addition has been woefully implemented, with it frequently breaking the perfect visuals when in use." (Traversal) "...feels forced, clunky and completely unnecessary."
Each of the above statements is untrue and Joshua is either is really poor at playing Uncharted MP and is trying to divert blame onto the game or that his site has an agenda when it comes to the PS4 exclusive. I rather think it is the latter.
When I played the beta, I enjoyed it. in fact it's a lot better than Uncharted 3 multiplayer in my humble opinion. Especially the gun_play/ aiming mechanic. It just feels better to play.
Fine, maybe it isn't a generational leap. . it's a sequel after all .. They can't deviate too much from the core fundamentals. . otherwise you'd have another game entirely. Don't you think?
These days, everyone expect sequels to take the series into another dimension. How do you do that without upsetting the core fan base? no win situation
Literally this little unknown website that popped out of nowhere is trying so hard with the clickbait articles, it's sad and hilarious at the same time. Perhaps, if they actually used substance, then people would actually go to their website.
So these xbots are butt hurt from a excellent game made by Naughty Dog so they are on damage control. Should this be called news? Absolutely not, but N4G will treat it as such much like metacritic treated that BS review made by the Washington Post as a legit review.
In the famous words of the internet meme; "Haters are gonna hate."
The core fundamentals are the same. But you have polished graphics, grappling hook and relics (is thats what they are called?). But of course they are not suddenly gonna change the mp to a first person shooter. I fint get the article, so is every COD and Battlefield a ps3 Game in disguise then?
I've not played any Uncharted multiplayer since U2 (and then it was only one round), I just don't enjoy it much, the gun play in my opinion is the weakest aspect of the Uncharted games.
Co-op with friends, traversing the levels and experiencing all that Uncharted offers would be far more appealing than basic MP.
I kind of agree, the gun play is Uncharteds weakest part. This however does not mean it's awful or terrible. It's not. It's solid but in terms of MP it just doesn't do it for me, there are so many far better MP focused games out there to even bother playing the MP on Uncharted.
The SP however is nothing short of amazing along with pretty much every ND of recent years. Now if they could just expand that TLOU MP a bit more it could of been amazing as well.
You guys realise that every time a review or article like this comes out and you flood the site with hits is all the more reason for them to go fishing for the hits for advertisement dollars. Seriously how dumb can people be. Stop visiting and they'll stop writing stuff considered controversial.
That's why it's good that people post qoutes from the article in this thread so I can determine whether it is a clickbait or not. When I saw those bs arguments I immediately knew this site didn't deserve my clicks, ever. As Nathan says to Sully in Madagascar: "Added to the list"
I just wanted to take the time to thank you all for offering your feedback, we really appreciate it! We're always interested in hearing what people think! We always try to take your feedback and use it to further develop and build XO.TV's content to ensure it meets gamer's high standards!
Lol i had to literally force myself to go to sleep last night because i was so hooked on the mp. Tbe animations, colors, smoothness, banter, audio are all a sight to behold. My most fun mp right now and one of the best tps mps out there. Idk how ppl thought Tomb Raider mp was good or for tht matter Max Payne 3 after playing Uncharted mp and UC4 just steps it up. Can it be better? Of course add more content but in terms of performance its rock solid and plays great.
This is trolling we get it your website and writers don't like U4 they are trying so hard to bait fanboys. How in any shape or form that considered gaming journalism nothing to see here just another no name website trying to get notice.
"There is barely any expansion on the core fundamentals of Uncharted 3"
Title and the above sentence are ambiguous and false. The core fundamentals of Uncharted 4 have been greatly enhanced.
NX Gamer:
"There's far, far more going on in the multiplayer. Animations are absolutely top notch, the 16ms frame time means that samples rates are very high, adding in conjuction with procedural animations great blending, high key frame count and skeletol frames mean that all character movements feel and look, not only natural but convincing.
You can see the same care and attention we see in the single player, from idle animations, cover reactions when shot at to the swinging. The collision interactions are incredibly natural.
If you pay attention, you can also see the pivot point in skeletol rigs as you get shot or react, from changing hands and reloading the guns, even moving the rope over your head."
And let's not disregard what is quite possibily among the best things about Uncharted 4; its fantastic gunplay. It's most probably the best controlling third person shooter on the market, in my opinion. I have played almost every single third person shooter and the closest thing to UC4 is MGSV.
While we're at it, the weapons sound absolutely fantastic.
"The hook rarely feels useful and its addition has been woefully implemented, with it frequently breaking the perfect visuals when in use."
Hook woefully implemented and breaks visuals, Care to elaborate?
"some of those areas are so far detached from where the core action is that one can’t help but wonder why Naughty Dog bothered."
Traversal.
"It feels forced, clunky and completely unnecessary."
To each his own, but I completely disagree, especially after traversing through some of the maps and pulling many rope swing takedowns.
"When I could buy an ability I would have to do finger gymnastics to purchase and then use it"
This is just pathetic; Anecdotal fallacy.
"Change for the sake of change… that’s never the best kind, and yet that’s what’s on display here."
First you say the above in regards to boosters and mysticals, and then you shortly follow it with "Why not go further with the store mechanic and make it so that players can upgrade their guns throughout each match?"
Make your mind up pal.
"Putting shiny new graphics on the same game simply doesn’t cut it!"
True, but that is simply and unequivocally not the case in regards to Uncharted 4.
There's so much in your opinion piece that I can contest towards but I'll leave it for another day.
I'd have thought the new powers would have changed it greatly! Not to mention the rope swing and sliding down some terrain. Only played a bit of 3s MP and haven't played 4s MP a part from the beta but there is a fair bit different IMO.
Wao Xbox One TV, again with the U4 hate?
Such desperation for attention.
I personally think they added too much to the MP. I would like a game mode with no side kicks or mythicals. But I certainly see why the game i fun for many people.
Joshua has defended the silly review his colleague did of Uncharted 4 and now here he is deriding the UC4 MP:
"There is barely any expansion on the core fundamentals of Uncharted 3"
"The hook rarely feels useful and its addition has been woefully implemented, with it frequently breaking the perfect visuals when in use."
(Traversal) "...feels forced, clunky and completely unnecessary."
Each of the above statements is untrue and Joshua is either is really poor at playing Uncharted MP and is trying to divert blame onto the game or that his site has an agenda when it comes to the PS4 exclusive. I rather think it is the latter.