Fans have been wanting Kingdom Hearts 3 and the FF7 Remake for a long time. But the lack of a real release window is annoying and needs to change.
Sony, MS and other major publishers have this problem since this gen started. Announce AAA games only to make us wait longer than we have to. Either announce the game and have it release in the next 6 months to a year or not announce it at all. Or at least tease the game.
This gen can best be summed by a pic I took at Best Buy a couple months back that still had the original release dates for Mighty No 9, Uncharted 4, Deus Ex, and Battleborn.
How about that Mighty No.9! Didnt it come out 6 months ago? Oh ... wait.
I mean at the end of the day every situation is different and that's actually at the discretion of the people that own that game not you or I. Some games could work well with a six-month window of announcement and release some games need a longer window for the company to gauge excitement and gain possible investors during development. Some of the stipulations by investors are that the game is announced before full development so they can gauge if the game is worth their investment sometimes it's not in the control of the company I'm sorry but releasing a game in six months after reveal is a luxury that only a few Publishers could really do most companies cannot make the game in secret for years on end just because you don't like to wait. At the end of the day the prices of these developments are so massive a single failure of some of these Triple A games could keep the company in bad standing for a very long time. People are upset and in tears because they have to wait for a game are also not the ones paying near 100 million dollars for the game's development so I'm sorry but unless any of you guys are footing the bill for these games I don't really think it makes sense to be trying to suggest how they should be marketing their investment. if this game doesn't do well it's just another article on n4g for you, but if it doesn't do well for the company people are out of the job. Because of the massive undertaking that games are I believe that a six-month window could only work for a very very small amount of ips where most games are going to need a year-and-a-half to a year to Market if not even longer because of their financial situations once again not everyone is the same all of these companies are not all just working in silence they cannot afford that luxury and you guys seriously need to stop using Bethesda as this example on how a game should be released many games are not going to be as well known as The Fallout series. I'm okay with the game releasing six months after its reveal but I am also OK with a game be announced years prior to its release because I also fully understand all developers are not in the same situation they all don't have the same funding they all cannot afford to just risk an extremely huge project by working on it in secrecy. Who is the found this secret project? How many investors or even Bank do you really think you're going to find a game that's completely done in secret? A lot of them want not only proof-of-concept they want to gauge the reaction of the install base and they won't even put a penny down on a project that no one's ever heard of. Consider this would any of you? So you're going to back a game that's been made in secret for years and years and it's going against another game releasing in the fall that has been already announced it has full momentum for several years the likeliness is your 6 months is not going to go against their several years of marketing. Sometimes it is necessary to market a game to get funding to complete it in the first place.
I agree. The wait sometimes makes me just lose interest.
tbh they should've had another FFXV style announcement to show these games off in full.
Lol my interest is playing the game in general it matters not to me when the game releases, it just matters that I want to play it. At the end of the day it sounds more to me like you're more interested in the date it's releasing than the game itself you please have to explain to me the logic of this lol. If waiting for something makes you lose interest I have to question exactly why you're actually gaming for.
"If waiting for something makes you lose interest I have to question exactly why you're actually gaming for." You're kidding right? are you a troll? be honest? is the idea of someone losing interest from waiting too long really such a difficult thing to grasp?
"is the idea of someone losing interest from waiting too long really such a difficult thing to grasp?" Yup. For me bud, I've waited years for games too, don't really care. I've never just changed my mind based on waiting um "too long". At the end of the day, a good game is a good game. Some of you sound like you guys are more interested on WHEN you will be playing it, then playing it at all.
The more times I see a game the more disappointed I am when I finally get my hands on it. Hoping it doesn't happen with these two games.
Remember that game that was announced for like 2018? No, right? Who does. No one.
Every game should follow Fallout 4's model.
Release the game with a Ton of bugs? Would have prefered a delay
There's a huge difference between "should" and could buddy. How many developers do you even think have the funding or luxury to even release a game in that manner? I mean every game should release like Fallout 4 just like every game should be free, just like every game should always use the highest level of tech, just like every game should have single player co-op and multiplayer..... I mean are we just asking for unrealistic things or? Because your statement very much sounds like it's an extremely unrealistic post, when you say "should" it very much sounds like wishful thinking and a dream statement because I can't really fathom how it's feasible that every game could possibly release the way Fallout 4 did, not every developer all has the finances to do such a thing. Only the very biggest Publishers in the world can afford to have games made in silence for years on end and released with a six-month window. Some of these projects are upwards to 70, 80, 90 or even 100 million. How many of the top Publishers do you really think I have that much money to sink into a single project in silence? That's only an extremely small handful that can actually do that that's not a "should" statement that is not the norm of how games release. I mean buddy I wish the day a game was announced it was available for sale but once again can we ground ourselves with reality when asking for such things? if we're going to say we want this at least realistically base what were talking about as opposed to just going full-blown unicorns lol.
FF7R proves Square-Enix needs a rehaul.
highly disagree with that, I would say Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy 15, I Am Setsuna and Final Fantasy 7 remake are bringing this company to new heights they haven't seen in probably the last 16 years. Not even bringing up Edios. Square will be fine they're doing better than they have been in a very very very long time. They have a tremendous amount of momentum coming with them through this generation. With the Deus Ex series the Tomb Raider series Hitman Final Fantasy, DQ, Kingdom Hearts etc I think they're doing just fine. They're releasing more games on PC too. I can't honestly think of another time in this company or things we're looking so promising I think they're doing a great job currently. I'm already set up by at least 5 Square games this year. I already own hit man and will buy the disc base version in the fall or next year I already own bravely second I'm going to buy I am setsuna day 1 I'm going to purchase Final Fantasy 15 day one as well and I'm also most likely going to buy the new Deus Ex game as of right now I believe in 2016 I'll probably buy more of this Publisher's games this year than any other publisher currently. I'm going to buy Uncharted 4 later this year the Last Guardian later this year and hopefully Horizon zero Dawn later this year tallying up my Sony games to about 3 after that the rest of the Publishers get maybe 1 to 2 purchases by me but Square by a very good margin has more of my purchases I really believe they are doing a great job in the west and in the east on console and on PC. That number could be higher if they release Final Fantasy 12 HD this year! I also completely forgot about Kingdom Hearts 2.8 but I'm not sure that that's releasing this year. But if you're just going to tear up about Final Fantasy 7 not being what you wanted it to be I don't know if I really care because it sounds to me like many people on here have dumb reasons for why they think the company is going to go under don't look at sales, don't look at anything the company's doing just cry about a game not being turn-based that's almost 20 years old.....please give it a rest lol.
"highly disagree with that, I would say Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy 15, I Am Setsuna and Final Fantasy 7 remake are bringing this company to new heights they haven't seen in probably the last 16 years. " Well, KH3 and IAS are understandable to praise. FFXV and FF7R, not so much. "Not even bringing up Edios." Yes, please don't, lol. I don't think of those games when I think Square. I think Secret of Mana, FF6, Chrono Trigger, and such. Not some shooters... "They're releasing more games on PC too. I can't honestly think of another time in this company or things we're looking so promising I think they're doing a great job currently. I'm already set up by at least 5 Square games this year. " I am glad they're doing PC more, actually. I wish they would scale back on Mobile or port them to 3DS/Vita at least, though, so I can't say their direction is perfect. "I already own hit man and will buy the disc base version in the fall or next year I already own bravely second I'm going to buy I am setsuna day 1 I'm going to purchase Final Fantasy 15 day one as well and I'm also most likely going to buy the new Deus Ex game as of right now I believe in 2016 I'll probably buy more of this Publisher's games this year than any other publisher currently. " IAS is a day 1 for me as well, but there's another mistake they made; leaving Vita behind. If they're gonna localize the game, why not both versions? Vita fans are very disappointed, myself among them. I wish people wouldn't buy FF XV day 1. It is going to send a bad message...but it's a free country. "I'm going to buy Uncharted 4 later this year the Last Guardian later this year and hopefully Horizon zero Dawn later this year tallying up my Sony games to about 3 after that the rest of the Publishers get maybe 1 to 2 purchases by me but Square by a very good margin has more of my purchases I really believe they are doing a great job in the west and in the east on console and on PC. " TLG is releasing this year? Wow, that's awesome! I had to look up HZD, seems neat. I don't think they're doing a good job in the west though. They aren't releasing a lot of their Japanese games here, especially for Vita, and their Mobile focus is bad. I also don't like that they're action oriented now.
"That number could be higher if they release Final Fantasy 12 HD this year! I also completely forgot about Kingdom Hearts 2.8 but I'm not sure that that's releasing this year. But if you're just going to tear up about Final Fantasy 7 not being what you wanted it to be I don't know if I really care because it sounds to me like many people on here have dumb reasons for why they think the company is going to go under don't look at sales, don't look at anything the company's doing just cry about a game not being turn-based that's almost 20 years old.....please give it a rest lol." FF XII HD would be neat. I don't like it much because it's the first mainline single player FF to skew heavily toward action, signaling the downfall. I can still enjoy it, so I hope it comes soon for PS4/Vita. As for FF7, it isn't about what only I want it to be. You cannot deny that there are a lot of fans of turn-based RPGs, that there are a lot of purists, and that FF7R is flying in their collective faces. And no, we don't just want the same game "so go play FF7." We want better quality graphics, music, sound. We want new features like Trophies, voice acting, and optional content (like Crono Trigger DS, which allows you to ignore it if you want). The game being decades old is precisely WHY we're "crying" about FF7R not being turn-based...a classic is being butchered here before our eyes. Sure, some love it. I'm sure some people love the new butchered Gostbusters remake as well...ugh, the thought is disturbing. I'd love to give it a rest but I feel it is my duty to dissuade as many as I can from supporting SE's self-destruction. Square was my favorite company at one point, to see them becomes Action mongering, IP ignoring, remaster overload peddling, Mobile WHORES fills me with disdain. I wish I didn't care about gaming, particularly JRPGs and Square so much, then I could just go "lol kewl luk at duh butin masin, shore luks liek funz" and enjoy myself, but I can't, and I won't. I've said it before, FF XV and FF7R will be objectively good games, even though I hate them and say otherwise in rage, but they won't BE FF XV and FF7 no matter how hard they try...
"And no, we don't just want the same game "so go play FF7." We want better quality graphics, music, sound. We want new features like Trophies, voice acting, and optional content (like Crono Trigger DS, which allows you to ignore it if you want)." That's what you want. You're not the voice of every fan of the original FFVII game. There have been many comments from people saying they don't want voice acting for example. Even if the game stayed turn-based the old fans would rip it to shreds cause not all of them have the same opinion on what the game should be.
@Kent- Not much to say to you bud, sounds like you've made up you're mind on this company long ago. "FFXV and FF7R, not so much" LOL! Yes, the 2 titles that will likely moving record units. Sure... ""Not even bringing up Edios." Yes, please don't, lol. I don't think of those games when I think Square" Thats nice...how is that relevant to the companies success? What I stated about "Not even bringing up Edios." was not meant in a bad way, it was meant to say, they have a LOT going for them even before bringing up Eidos. How you personally, emotionally feel about that team is irrelevant. Thus, were are you getting "Square-Enix needs a rehaul" This company might be on the greatest upswing of its entire existence right now. They have support from the west and east, on console, handheld AND PC. Square is doing just fine bud. 'I am glad they're doing PC more, actually. I wish they would scale back on Mobile or port them to 3DS/Vita at least" Porting to Vita and 3DS of course would make them more money, but Mobile is still making them money, one of their mobile games just moved 5 million downloads... So you wish they would scale back on something that is for FACT making them money? Soooo Square should "rehaul" you're way and make less? I don't disagree that we should see ports of some of those titles else where, but you have to at least acknowledge this COMPANY is doing better. Stop adding SOOOOOO much personal bias to it bud. It destroys any point you're trying to make. You'd think I would want a FFVII turned based? You don't think I would want Parasite Eve 3 or even Parasite Eve 1 remake? Buddy...just because I PERSONALLY want something, doesn't mean I'm going to ignorantly start using that to base how the company is doing. Thats like saying EA might go out of business because I only buy Battlefield and Mass Effect from them. Can we even JUST a little bit trying thinking about the bigger picture vs what we emotionally feel? You don't need to like Eidos games to realize the move huge units and have lots of promising games coming soon. Heck, you don't need to like FFXV or FFVIIR to realize how much units its likely going to move. Turned based is just too dated and was likely not going to move these MEGA units. So what I like turned based, I also know that MILLIONS don't care for the concept as much. Them seeking a different more common methods is likely exactly what will even get those game moving huge units. " their Mobile focus is bad. I also don't like that they're action oriented now." http://www.siliconera.com/2... Is it? Maybe you don't know what you're talking about buddy. "I also don't like that they're action oriented now." Well that pretty irrelevant as they own Edios which will make games geared towards the west, why would Edios make Japanese games? And if you mean with FFXV and FFVIIR, I don't see Square trying to gamble a dated concept on a new game. Its asking of fans. Would you rather physically do you're moves or would you rather press a button and watch an animation of them? Mind you, FFXII had both, its not as if you can't have both concepts in 1 game.
Square-Enix had an overhaul when they ditched Wada, games like FF7R is one of the many positives that have came out of this process. They're in a far better position now and have even done a great job regaining some of their lost fans trust.
No way. FF7R is a broken promise, they lost a LOT of trust from a LOT of fans.
We have seen so very little of it that's it's far too early to call it a broken promise. They lost a lot of trust last gen with their mediocre offerings and have done a fantastic job turning things around, granted I can only speak for myself but I'm more excited for FF than I have been in years and I spent the best part of my teenage years hooked on their PS1 offerings from FF to Saga Frontier.
I get kingdom hearts 3, i would understand ff 15 too, but why ff7? it was only announced a year ago?
It's an ARPG, that's all we need to know that they f***ed FF7R up already. It is an ARPG, that much is clear to anyone with eyes and basic cognitive skills, and moreso to any person who has ever played a video game in their life, and a Final Fantasy fan should know within seconds of watching any footage and listening to any commentary; it's unfortunate, but FF7R IS an ARPG... "as someone who loves ff7, the remake looks great to me,maybe because i love a lot of things about the game and not only it's turn based fighting, but clearly to some people that is the only thing that matters" The combat was a huge aspect, and if you're going to pretend to downplay that, then why the change? If it isn't a big deal, why alter it at all? Can't have it both ways. Changing the combat, which is the core of the gameplay, is almost like changing the genre of a film or the core dynamics such as camera angles and editing. Once you start altering the core aspects of what defines a classic then we lose it. What should and should not be altered are delicate issues, but some are obvious... Nobody would accept Uncharted 4 having the gameplay of Fight For Fortune. Nobody would accepy God of War 4 having the gameplay of Betrayal. Why are we allowing a classic remake to be altered so much when we would FLIP if a mere SEQUEL was altered to this degree? No. I won't accept it, neither will lots of others, thankfully.
actually, if you paid any attention instead of trolling you'd know that isn't true :) ,
as someone who loves ff7, the remake looks great to me,maybe because i love a lot of things about the game and not only it's turn based fighting, but clearly to some people that is the only thing that matters
1, they have already said it won't be completely arpg, and i don't take what they've shown too seriously, it most likely not even close to representing the final game 2, i just said i love it for more than just the combat, never said it wasn't a big part, or tried to downplay it, but i suppose it's easier for you to pretend i did. 3, it's not like changing film genre, film genres and game genres are nowhere near the same thing 4, sure many won't accept it, but clearly many will as well, I, among a lot of others can't wait to see the characters, the whole world, and the rest of the game in the remake, because like i said, i love the game for more than just the combat alone.
@Kenbentmei "Nobody would accept Uncharted 4 having the gameplay of Fight For Fortune. Nobody would accepy God of War 4 having the gameplay of Betrayal." If uncharted was built around the game play of fight for fortune it would most likely work, if God of War was built around the gameplay for Betrayal, it would work. Companies dont just cut out the Turnbase and replace it with action base. it's built from the ground up. and the very fact that you are dismissing the game based on only one aspect of it shows that you aren't a tru Final Fantasy 7 fan. becuase trust me. i didn't turn on the game every day for the turn based combat. it was the characters, the story. thats is what made final fantasy 7 so great. not it's turn based combat
I mean I have been waiting for KH3 for what feels like forever now as long as the game is great I could care less about how long it takes at this point. However I do agree that the announcements need to stop until they figure out a release date there is a difference between a teaser trailer without a release window and an actual announcement.
At least they aren't the Last Guardian.
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