CEMU 1.5.0 showcased emulating Mario Kart 8 almost perfectly

CEMU is by far the best emulator for WiiU, and the team behind it is currently working on a new version. YouTube’s member ‘reznoire‘ had access to the upcoming 1.5.0 build and shared a video, showcasing Mario Kart 8 running on it.

[LOL_WUT]

This never ceases to amaze me. Despite what the naysayers were saying, they have come a long way. Keep up the hard work ;)

[benji101]

It looks like crap. If this amazes you I cant imagine how you would react to the real version.

[LOL_WUT]

I own the game dude. What I meant was, for an emulator, this looks awesome. ;)

[Skate-AK]

Wow. Surprised at how much progress they have made in such a short time. The PS3 emulator can barely run Ace Combat, let alone a high quality exclusive like MK8. Although the progress is very slow, we know it is because of how hard it is to emulate the Cell, RSX and SPUs. That is why Sony can't do BC on the PS4.

I wonder if the team can make a separate window to run the emulated game pad by clicking the mouse to simulate a tap on the scteen? Simillar to what the DS emulators have done. There are a few games that will be unplayable without game pad emulation.

[Omeganex9999]

Exactly but NOPE, according to the average internet guy Sony just doesn't want to give people backward compatibility cause they are focused on selling Playstation Now...

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

I refuse to believe that Sony, with all of their professional paid programmers and money, couldn't figure out a way to do it if they had actually tried.

[freshslicepizza]

of course they could but they are waging need versus costs and there really is no pressure on them to do it. microsoft managed to do it on the xbox 360 and it was a totally different design from the first xbox but it wasn't easy. they also had to pay royalties to nvidia because they didn't use their chips after the first xbox.

[pootymcpoockle]

Scum.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Agreed.
All the people saying "but muh back-ups!" and other BS reasons for why this emulator is okay, know full well, as does everyone else here, that the biggest use for this is going to be for pirating games.

Scum is a perfect descriptor for anyone that would pirate Wii U games when the system isn't even 5 years old yet.

@ Majin
So you support theft, then?
Good to know where you stand on your moral compass.
Or is that your console war soldier allegiance talking because you hate the system?

@ Chickey
That's all well and good, but if you think for even an instant that the people behind CEMU are actually making and distributing this thing without the full awareness that most of those that use it will be pirates, I believe that you're giving them too much credit.
They aren't saints doing this out of interest in technology and a love of their pet project, whatever they might say.
They're doing it knowing it's going to be used for theft.

What matters here, isn't the legality; it's the intent-by-creation.
And from day one, you know as well as anyone else here does, that CEMU has been advertised as a way of PLAYING WII U GAMES WITHOUT PAYING.
That's the use that the majority will put this software to use towards; after all the people whining about how "horrible" the Wii U is, it would be naive to assume otherwise.
The team behind CEMU is creating this with full awareness of that fact, I'm sure.

So, no, this isn't like blaming food companies for getting fat.
It's like giving a trained killer a knife you made yourself out of sentimentality and love of the craft, and then telling them you didn't make it for killing people; you KNOW he's gonna use it for killing someone regardless of what you made it for, and that makes giving him the knife WRONG.

Just like making this emulator and distributing it years before the Wii U is out of circulation, is WRONG.

Human intent is what matters here.
And for the sake of stopping the majority that WOULD us this as a tool of theft, this thing SHOULD NOT BE ENDORSED.

The system isn't old enough to justify it, in any case.
If you want Wii U games, you should go out and BUY A WII U.
Not wait for this to be completed just to avoid owning the system or to get the games for free.

[Majin-vegeta]

The salt is real lol....

[ChickeyCantor]

Emulators ARE ok. They are software.
It's like blaming food companies for getting fat. No one is telling you to do so.

>So you support theft, then?

Emulators have NOTHING to do with theft. If someone abuses the emulator that's their doing.
If you go to Dolphin/pcsx2 forums, illegal downloads are discouraged and can result in a ban.

Emulators are 100% legal. As Sony/MS/Nintendo do not own the code/software itself ( the emulator) .

[ChickeyCantor]

> They aren't saints doing this out of interest in technology and a love of their pet project, whatever they might say. They're doing it knowing it's going to be used for theft.

That's a bold accusation.
Of course they know it's going to be used for theft, but implying they do it so people can use it for theft is rather idiotic.
You're basically saying they shouldn't do it because someone might use it for theft.

>It's like giving a trained killer a knife you made yourself out of sentimentality and love of the craft, and then telling them you didn't make it for killing people; you KNOW he's gonna use it for killing someone regardless of what you made it for, and that makes giving him the knife WRONG.

But they aren't " giving " anything personally. It's software freely to be downloaded. Whatever someone does with it is not their concern, that's the deal. You're are saying we shouldn't make knifes because killers out there use it. You realize how dumb that sounds, right?

>Human intent is what matters here.
And for the sake of stopping the majority that WOULD us this as a tool of theft, this thing SHOULD NOT BE ENDORSED.

I'm not endorsing theft, however I am endorsing software engineers wanting to learn from this and get better at it. Also so that other developers can learn from it.

>If you want Wii U games, you should go out and BUY A WII U.

If people want to support Nintendo, they will go out and buy a wii u.
If they go for theft then they probably never cared to support them anyways nor the gamedevelopers.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

@ Cantor
"You're basically saying they shouldn't do it because someone might use it for theft."

And how is that wrong, let alone idiotic?
If the CEMU devs want to do it for fun, then they could just do it but never release it to the public in a way that could be abused.
I think we both know that's not going to happen.

"You're are saying we shouldn't make knifes because killers out there use it. You realize how dumb that sounds, right?"
Bull.
Don't twist my example's meaning like that.
By putting it out in a public area to be freely downloaded and distributed to thieves, it amounts to the same thing as handing a killer a knife with your own hands, because it's freely putting it within easy access of those that would abuse it for wrong-doings.
It's the difference between making that knife and keeping it for a collection, or handing it to someone who would never actually use it for any nefarious purpose, and making that knife then willingly handing it over to someone KNOWING they'll use it to kill, even if you tell them not to.
CEMU is the knife, and unless the creators behind it become the sort of collectors that would only display their wares but never hand them out, that knife WILL go into the hands of many more killers than collectors.
You know it.
I know it.
The CEMU team knows it.
There's no point in pretending otherwise.

"I am endorsing software engineers wanting to learn from this and get better at it."

By endorsing the free distribution of an emulator that is CLEARLY designed for the sake of playing games illegally, you are in fact endorsing theft.
If you were just endorsing the software engineers, you'd be hoping that they only share the details of their findings in a way that can't be immediately downloaded and easily abused by the unskilled public; that way only talented engineers who understand the processes could duplicate the feat and wouldn't leak it outside of those circles to the internet at large.

"If people want to support Nintendo, they will go out and buy a wii u.
If they go for theft then they probably never cared to support them anyways nor the game developers."

And so because they'd go for theft first, that suddenly makes it okay to do it?
How about this; let's let a thief take something from you that you really value because he'd be unwilling to pay for it otherwise.
Better yet, let's let thieves do that at stores that sell music and movies in a digital format.
Just let them download everything for free from a store using an app stored in their smart phones.
Just walk right on in, download it with the pseudo-CEMU app, and walk right back out.
It's not like they'd pay for it anyways, so where's the harm, right?

No.

If these people want to play Wii U games, THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Don't excuse theft just because "they probably never cared to support them anyways".
And by extension, don't support the tools used to MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.
The bottom line is that CEMU ISN'T NEEDED.
If the games are that desirable, then the console should be bought for them.
They shouldn't be stolen, and we shouldn't support a piece of publicly-available software that is intentionally created with no coding that would prevent the downloaded theft and use of Wii U game code upon it.

[ChickeyCantor]

>By putting it out in a public area to be freely downloaded and distributed to thieves, it amounts to the same thing,

By putting knifes out in a public space to be freely used for whatever to murderers, it amounts to the same thing.

MATE, JUST NO.

>If these people want to play Wii U games, THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Who is disputing that? The point is there will always be those that won't give a shit. That shouldn't stop anyone from doing something.

>The bottom line is that CEMU ISN'T NEEDED.

This point is moot.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

"By putting knifes out in a public space to be freely used for whatever to murderers, it amounts to the same thing.

MATE, JUST NO. "

Dude, just YES.
Again, it's the difference between the knife's creator giving it to a fellow collector that wouldn't use it for wrong, or giving it to a killer that would then naively expecting the killer NOT to use it to kill.
The public, in this case, is going to be filled with more killers than innocent collectors.
And the thing they'll attack with that knife is Wii U games.
Don't turn a blind eye to that by justifying the form that CEMU is in.

"Who is disputing that? The point is there will always be those that won't give a shit. That shouldn't stop anyone from doing something."
You know who SHOULD stop someone from doing something?
The team behind CEMU.
By NOT DISTRIBUTING THIS TO THE PUBLIC.
The public doesn't NEED this, and releasing it to the public only ENABLES THEFT.
The number of people that would use it for any other opportunity is absolutely minuscule, so much so than a legitimate argument cannot be made for supporting its release in its current form.

Again, the bottom line is that CEMU is not needed.
That is not a moot point, it's a fact.
And it will REMAIN a fact until the Wii U can't be found anywhere many years down the line from now, when it's old enough, and its games hard to find enough, to justify it.
One that you're gladly ignoring in order to support a piece of software designed specifically for the illegal acquisition and use of Wii U game code, covering itself from legal repercussions by masquerading as a mere pet project for the sake of learning.

[blawren4]

I wish we could stamp this crap out of existence like the cancer it is. It serves no purpose other than to promote piracy.

[Darkfist]

well at least i can play star fox zero with good controls

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Pirates don't deserve to play it. Also, I doubt CEMU is at the level where it could properly support the kind of dual-screen concept that game takes advantage of in order to work well.
Especially during the final boss battle.

[NohansenBoy]

Rejoice! Soon I'll be able to stop using my crappy Wii U as a gaming console and instead as a dedicated game ripping machine for my library of games! Can't wait to see how gamepad support works.

I think I'm going to throw $5 per month at their patreon to help this succeed!

[benji101]

Something that should be noted to any one stupid enough to emulate games in the present or future is that game publishing has become a patch rich industry and even most wii u games have at least one patch. So all these emulated games will probably only be un-patched versions. So enjoy that.

[NohansenBoy]

I'm sure the emulator can install patches just fine. There's a tool to download PS3 game patches, so I imagine there will be a way to download Wii U game patches and I'm sure these talented devs can find a way to install them.