Pokken Tournament on Wii U has Outsold Street Fighter V on PS4

According to NPD leaker and analyst ZhugeEX, after April’s NPD report, Pokken Tournament on Wii U has outsold Street Fighter V on PS4. This is significant news; although Street Fighter V is available on PC, the game is a console exclusive for the PS4.

[Shubhendu_Singh]

You fycked it up Capcom...you fycked it up.

[Maybay]

Once you factor in Wii U's small install base, it's almost unbelievable. It's Capcom's fault no doubt.

[Monster_Tard]

SF5 has also been out a month longer. I find this a little hard to believe.

[sorenx]

A lot of wii u game out sell ps4 gamed lol

[never4get]

Quality

[Hold_It]

Once you factor in that Pokemon in name alone is one of the best selling games ever, you'll realize this article is nothing but click bait. It's like trying to compare Dragon Quest's sales to Resident Evil's sales.

[rjason12]

Yeah, but street fighter is one of capcoms best selling series and street fighter 5 was really hyped up, while pokken tournament wasn't, and is a new collaboration.

[Monster_Tard]

Not really as many Pokemon spin off games haven't sold that well. Like Pokemon Conquest for an example, it received high ratings but only ended up selling a little over a million copies.

[Segata]

You have no idea what you talking about. Pokemon spinoffs don't all that well. Wii U is 13 million systems sold vs 37 million sold PS4's. Street Fighter is one of if not the biggest name in the genre of fighting games. Thing is Wii U typically has insanely good attach rates where PS4 does not. SFV was also more heavily promoted. Nintendo barely promoted Pokken. Oh and RE does VERY well in Japan. As Biohazard it's a huge money maker not just in the west but Japan as well.

[Hold_It]

@segata

Pokemon is more popular than Street Fighter, that is fact. Resident Evil is one of Capcom's best selling series, more than Street Fighter, and the majority of their other games. Street Fighter is not as popular as Mortal Kombat, and not as casual as Mortal Kombat is. Street Fighter is more like the Battlefield of fighting games, and

Mortal Kombat is more of the Call of Duty of fighting games. That being said Street Fighter requires more skill than MK, and most casuals (average gamer), doesn't like to learn a fighting game, hence why they'd rather play Mortal Kombat. Not just the lack of content, but the fact that SFV is an honest fighting game doesn't help the people that got used to all the bullshit that SFIV Ultra had in it. Mortal Kombat has more bullshit going on in it, and it seems that people want more chaos and unbalanced system mechanics in their game, hence why the Marvel vs Capcom games are still in FGC tournaments.

But people like you who can attempt to accuse me on here of "not knowing what I'm talking about", because you don't agree with what I have to say, not because what I said is actually wrong. I wasn't talking about just Pokemon spinoffs but Pokemon as a brand and their games that they put out with Pokemon on it. Pokemon sells as much as GTA does, which is almost close to what Call of Duty does.

It's so sad that there are so many people on this website that go out of their way to shit on SFV with every chance that they get, but when I complain about MGSV not being finished, it's the end of the world or blasphemy. I think the next time someone wants to accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about they should fact check against what I said rather than just saying i'm wrong, because I don't provide a link you can google yourself.

[Metallox]

The Pokémon brand helps, ok. But what about the abysmal differences between Wii U and PS4 units out there, the huge promotion that Capcom made for Street Fighter V and the one-month advantage that this game had?

[Hold_It]

@Metallox

I'd say that more people bought MKX, because the sales show it, and those players went to Street Fighter, didn't like the differences in gameplay, art style, and game modes, so they went back to MKX, and those who didn't come from MKX, heard everyone taking a dump on the game and joined the hivemind mob mentality of "boycotting" the game.

Plus it doesn't help the fact that Street Fighter V is an honest game when it comes to fighting games, and lot of people that came from SFIV hated that the game was. It seems that fighting games with more unbalancing, and broken gameplay mechanics last longer in the FGC scene than games that don't have those things. Look at UMVC3, it's got all kinds of ridiculous one touch of death combos, unblockable, unreactable combos and overheads, and the game is still at EVO, and other fighting game majors.

[TheColbertinator]

Pokken certainly surprised me how deep it was. Pokken 2 as a launch title for NX would get me to pick up an NX.

[ShaunCameron]

OUCH!

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Well...that was unexpected.
I was thoroughly expecting Pokken to stay niche and under-selling for at least a little longer.
Seeing it turn around and nab a lot of sales like this certainly surprises me, but not in an unpleasant way.

Mayhaps I'll check out that free demo of the game on the Eshop.
I'm not really a Tekken fan, and I got out of Pokemon quite some years ago, but, eh, it could be fun...

[Darkfist]

I guess it doesnt matter if the install base is big or small, when you fu** up a game you end up losing sales.

[NotoriousWhiz]

First party Nintendo titles typically have pretty high attach rates, plus the Wii U has a shortage of quality fighting games. It's no surprise that plenty of Wii U owners bought it so soon after release. Doesn't hurt that it's a very solid fighting game with an "arcade" mode.

[remixx116]

It honestly blows my mind how Capcom didn't see this coming, I mean the pure audacity it takes to actually think it was OK to release the game in its current state just baffles me.

That shit shoulda been 30 beans right out the gate nothing more. I mean damn most of the things that were in the game like the store weren't even functional.

Only way to fix this is to come out with a massive patch and a buncha free stuff for players.

[Wallstreet37]

This is news because what? A lesser or higher install base means nothing in this equation. Word of mouth and consumers mad at the lack of content caused Sony fans to shun SFV sending a msg which is good on them.

In other news Ratchet and Clank its breaking all its records from before because Its quality and Sony fans went out to buy it. Also a once believed niche game and new ip like Bloodborne has sold close to 3 million on one platform.

Yes Capcom and to a lesser extent Sony didnt make SFV all it could have been and its showing in sales.

[NotanotherReboot]

Translation: damage control, damage control, dammaaaageee controooooollllll

[Wallstreet37]

You own capcom or sony stock or Nintendo stock? Lol translation...
Hop off fanboy, hop off, hop offf you making it heavy lol haha

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

I don't care how many records the new R&C is breaking; compared to the original, this remake is making too many mistakes.
Both Ratchet and Clank feel like they've got some personality quirks that shouldn't be there, the comedy isn't nearly as funny with many of the jokes being either hit-or-miss, or embarrassing to listen to, and the story has some serious consistency issues because it's so heavily tied in with the movie.
There's a part in it where, according to the movie, Ratchet and Clank are supposed to be separated, but once gameplay cues back in, suddenly Clank's just...there again.
Moments like this happen several times and it really ruins the immersion.

The only reason it's selling as good as it is, is because it's riding off the back of the PS4's popularity.
Measured up against its original, it has more flaws that make it decidedly less fun.
I should know; I own the original and have played the new one extensively thanks to my step-bro.

Tying it in to the movie made it a worse game, and I'm thoroughly disappointed in Sony for using the game as a mere tie-in to get their movie to be more popular.

I think I'm going to go back and play the original.
Maybe it'll wash the bad taste out of my mouth.

Also, about Bloodborne?

Dark Souls fans bought it, because it's basically the same thing under a new name, so saying "oh it's niche so it's amazing that it sold so well!" doesn't hold water.
It didn't need exclusivity with Sony to sell; it would have done well on any console where the Dark Souls fanbase was present, so considering the size of the Dark Souls fanbase and the popularity of the series, rather than saying "impressive", it's more like it's just "expected".XD

Edit: @ Psycho
Joke's on you; I have played both.
Extensively, thanks to my step-brother owning a PS4 that he lets me frequently play games on whenever I visit.
I also own most of the Ratchet and Clank series from the PS2 and 3, and it is MY OPINION that the new one just doesn't measure up, due largely in part to the movie tie-in bringing about inconsistencies, the humor not being as good, and Ratchet & Clank's personalities having some differences in them that don't leave them feeling like the same dynamic duo I fell in love with all those years ago.

Having a different opinion about a popular title doesn't make me a hypocrite.
I just don't like the game, and as a R&C fan, I wish I didn't have to say that.

Now, kindly step off.

[Wallstreet37]

Wonderful....

I dont listen or read any of your comments. Your a big nintendo fanboy and hypocrit. Nintendo has shafted you guys thousands of times but you stand strong in your unwavering fanboyism to commend anything they do its really sad. They sell you an underpowered system on the premise that the controller would be worth it lol if course you commend it. They invest in hardly any new ips and regurgitate and you commend it. They are behind the times in online and os and you commend it lol. Talking to you us like talking to the lamest gaming executive in gaming "Reggie"

As for Bloodborne lol bs its sold more than most of the souls games that were found on multiple systems. Sony fans and then later in pc fans were the reason Souls games took off foh with that bs lol it was a niche game that Sony gamers and later on pc gamers made popular.

By the way we are all entitled to opinions butttttt cobsensus is out and ppl love Ratchet lol if only you were so critical of half the bs games on Wiiu lol or Nintendo pyts out. Let me guess Devils Third was awesome right? Lol hahaha Star fox too and Mario Tennis lol. Also ive seen you in the posts saying Zelda being delayed to launch witj NX was a great moveeee lol foh im out of here.

[Darkfist]

lol a nintendo fanboy talking about story than gameplay, yet your the same fanboy who defend star fox zero with its unfun motion controls gameplay, everyone who played the game include new players praise the new R&C game because of its gameplay(which the first game doesnt have), your just one of those old fanboys who keep holding on the old games(aka sonic fanbase).

As for bloodborne, "Dark Souls fans bought it, because it's basically the same thing under a new name" Dark souls which was just Demon Souls under a new name, the same one that many praised but was called niche by others, and again was called niche when bloodborne was ps4 exclusive. and bloodborne at least has many changes in both lore and gameplay that had people who didnt like dark souls like it.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Your comment make it clear you've haven't actually played Bloodborne or the PS4 Ratchet and Clank, All I got from that rant was a load BS from what honestly sounded like a Nintendo version of Superchiller or any other Nintendo hater on this site. The fact that you complain about Nintendo haters, but the post these sony hating rants goes and proves that, despite Wallstreets lack of grammar, or spelling, or compression of the word read, he is right about one thing, you are a hypocrite.

[ThePsychoGamer]

"Extensively, thanks to my step-brother owning a PS4 that he lets me frequently play games on whenever I visit.
I also own most of the Ratchet and Clank series from the PS2 and 3, and it is MY OPINION that the new one just doesn't measure up, due largely in part to the movie tie-in bringing about inconsistencies, the humor not being as good, and Ratchet & Clank's personalities having some differences in them that don't leave them feeling like the same dynamic duo I fell in love with all those years ago. "

Bullshit, had you played Bloodborne you would know it's not just a "reskinned dark souls" the only reason you say it is is because you are the same kind of hater you complain about,

And as far as R&C goes, first of all those inconsistencies in the story really don't exist, there stuff that you manufactured in your head in order to try and justify your hate for sony, Second the fact that you never actually brought up the actual gameplay proves you haven't played it. Had you actually gave it a chance you would see that the gameplay is some of the strongest the series has to offer.

"Having a different opinion about a popular title doesn't make me a hypocrite."

True, having a different opinion about a popular series isn't hypocritical, but that's not why I'm calling you out for being a hypocrite either. I'm calling you out because these aren't opinion based on playing the games, there based off your clear hatred for Sony. This is no different than Superchiller attacking Star Fox zero.

When you complain about a group hating on one company, then proceed to spew the same hate for another company, you are being a hypocrite, and that is exactly what you are doing here.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

HAHAHAHA, so the moment I point out the flaws in the game, you immediately turn to attacking a system you don't like to try and incite a flame response, like some deranged fanboy, then you have the nerve to call ME one?

Go look in a mirror, boy, and accept that you're living in a glass house while insisting on throwing stones.

And yeah, keep damage controlling, but everyone else here knows for a fact that the new R&C sucks compared to the original thanks largely in part to being tied in to a badly done movie, and that Bloodborne sold off the back of Dark Souls fans more than anything else, including Sony fantards like you.:P
You're just salty that nothing you've said proves otherwise.

" lol foh im out of here."

Good.
Stay out of here.
Your idiocy might be contagious.

[Wallstreet37]

You are dismissed and got called out for the hypocrit you are. Go play tht awesome star fox and devils third 😂

Wonderful....
go swing on Reggies *&^* lol hypocrit fanboy. Youve been exposed long time ago.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The only dismissed hypocrite here is you, Sony Pony.

Go on; live up to your own words and GTFO of here.:P

[shuvam09]

Given Capcom's numbers of around 1.2m on PS4, I thought Pokken must have sold really well...
Then I saw the tweet and there it was...
'in retail'...
F*****g clickbait...
Even if it did exceed I wouldn't be surprised...
Wii U has very few good games in 2016...
So people can definitely afford to buy one or two games in a year...

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

1.2m is across PS4 and PC. Not PS4.

[shuvam09]

Its actually 1.6m across PS4+PC...
And SteamSpy numbers are around 150k...
So I added around 250k for an approx. number...

[higgins78]

So many people (allegedly) would buy this Wii U game and that if it were on the yet unknown NX...rubbish! I've collected quite the library of Wii U games myself this gen, so, either support a console and it's varied and essential library of games or quit the chin music. It's people like these mouthpieces which killed the Dreamcast.

[Wallstreet37]

First time i have agreed with you but your right in the money. Ppl want third parties so when they come they need to support them if they are of course worth it. Bad third parties or third party exclusives of course shouldn't be supported no matter what system or game.

[MrBrofist]

Nothing wrong with exclusives as long as it takes full advantage of the hardware. The problem was the state of what they released it in is what killed momentum
Half-assed work gets you half-assed results

[superchiller]

Nobody wants to buy a Wii U for a handful of decent games, it's just not worth it.

[Segata]

"nobody" 13 million is not nobody. It's 13 million Somebodies. Less than the others but that's 13 million more than nobody. Not decent but some of the best exclusive games this gen.

[gamerb6]

Street fighter has always been a Nintendo game, it doesn't seem right on any other system, controls are always off and never plays smoothly

[Segata]

Street Fighter has always been multiplat. The first game came to Many systems not called NES. SF didn't appear on NES. It was on popular computers of the 80s and systems like TurboGrafx16. Street Fighter II went on everything. Not just Genesis and SNES. The Marvel vs Capcom began on SEGA systems. SS and DC were loaded with SNK and Capcom fighting games that N64 or Gamecube did not have. SFIII was on PS1 and other systems but not N64 at all. The spinoffs like Alpha also were multiplat.

[gamerb6]

Ok let me rephrase, they played best on Nintendo consoles.

[Segata]

No wrong again. Saturn and Turb16 were arcade perfect.

[Hold_It]

They were not, just ask any pro player in the fighting game community. The Sega Dreamcast had arcade perfect versions of EVERY fighting game and arcade game released on the system as the Dreamcast's hardware was the closest thing to the NAIOMI boards the games were on.

[Segata]

Great game as well. I never played Pokemon anything until Pokken as I like fighters. (Pokemon became popular when I was in HS so never appealed to me) I played the SFV beta and nearly bought the game but money made me back out and after release glad I didn't get it.

[Tetsujin]

If pokken tournament was available on other platforms I would have bought it. The idea alone is worth trying out; pokemon characters in a Tekken-style fighting game? I'm down.

At the same time Capcom needs to stop thinking with their pockets otherwise more fans will leave to greener pastures. I want the Capcom from the 90s to return (I know it's impossible now but still).

[Segata]

Stop port begging. Oh and it plays nothing like Tekken. Just because it's developed by Harada does not mean it's Tekken. It's closer to Naruto series,tho much more polished and rounded.

[C_Ali88]

Too bad it's NOT!

[Tetsujin]

@Segata

Who said I was port begging? All I said was if it was available elsewhere, I never said I wanted it on a specific platform.

@ C_Ali88

No s-it.

Apparently this site is to the point you can't even make a positive notion about something without morons (or trolls) twisting words around to make themselves look better.

[3-4-5]

* Good Wii U games usually have a high attach rate....meaning that most of the people who own a wii U, own all or most of the best games for it.

SF5 should be outselling Pokken Tournament by a million because it is the established fighting franchise and arguably the best ever, compared to PT which is a new entry in the fighting game genre. PT has the Pokemon name going for it, but it also is a new type of fighting game that actually took the risk of trying something different.

* Capcom screwed up big time with SF5, and cut far too much content for it's launch. After 1 year, SF5 will STILL have less characters than SF4 launched with on day one.

* I know you guys love bashing Nintendo and Wii U, but this is a nice step in the right direction for Nintendo and the fighting game genre now has another promising title in the mix.

This is a good thing for gaming....as it introduces a new series, and shows that Capcom has some work to do to be considered great again. Holding Capcom responsible for their actions is a good thing.....it will lead to a better Capcom game in the future.

[Stealth20k]

Great going Nintendo!!!!!!!

[Ruggadagod]

Street Fighter V is too hardcore that's why.

[marloc_x]

Are you saying the majority of an install base approaching 40 million are casuals?😮

[Ruggadagod]

You think most people are actually good at fighting games? Think again. That's why everyone buys Mortal Kombat or Smash bros instead.

[ZeekQuattro]

I can see Street Fighter V being outsold by a spin off upstart fighting game has caused you to lose your grip on reality. It will be okay. rofl

[C_Ali88]

Rug the damage control is pitiful and debasing, Personally I love SF and have owned countless SF games but I did not buy SFV that game is an example of this gen. Release a game purely for profit even if it isn't done!!!!

[C_Ali88]

Love street fighter but did NOT buy SFV.... I bought MGSV and lets just say.. V isn't doing too well these days.

[BenRC01]

Sold my sf5. Was a massive sf4 fan but 5 for some reason just felt mwh

[Hold_It]

@Ben

A lot of people that came from SF4 had a lot of trouble adapting to the VSkills, Vtriggers, and lack of FADCs. Then again, there's less BS mechanics in SFV than there was in SFIV.

[xXKingofStingXx]

I still play SFV and wonder what the hell CAPCOM was thinking...the building blocks were there, but that's all there is. The fighting mechanics are second to none in my eyes, but the lack of single player content is just...wow...No arcade mode. Who at CAPCOM thought such a simple staple was not a necessity?

Also really surprised that SONY would help fund this game, and not have the presence of mind to let CAPCOM know this game was not finished, and would bomb when, and if they were shown a final build.

So much wasted potential...