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Naughty Dog: Beloved By Many but Not By Me

Many love the games Naughty Dog puts out, but there is just something about them that doesn’t tickle my fancy.

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shinrock2998d ago

In before the nuclear explosion.

naruga2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

i partly agree with the article , i consider Crash series and 1st Jak&D their best games ...Uncharted although very enjoyable games never absorbed me completely but they leave you always with a sweet memory ..Last of Us was a bit better with more interesting chars and true survival horror gameplay..in the plethora of mediocre and plain games ,at least Uncharted games had always some quality standards and never fall below "good game" category

Aloy-Boyfriend2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

So this piece is all about platforming nostalgia then... Naughty Dog was never this succesful before.

I have no preference. I love all their games, from lighthearted platforming to more realistic experiences

What people don't realize is that if ND had stuck with Platfomers, they would be in the same bad position that Nintendo is today againts more devs with bigger and more ambitious games.

I like to see my fav developers grow and take risk. The Last of Us is Naughty Dog's best game yet, and no platforming nostagia will change that

I can't personally undertand why some don't appreciate Uncharted and TLOU and keep asking ND to go back to platformers. Let other devs do the platformers. ND found its style and genre, and from there they have been exceeding themselves with every game.

I couldn't be happier of alll they have achieved until now. Meanwhile, other devs keep stuck with their same shit unable to move on

amiga-man2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

This could be said about any studio, Naughty Dog creations are a labour of love, with no stone unturned in making their products the best they can be, whether you can apprieciatte their games or not there is no denying they are one the most talented studios out there, As you say their games are loved by many and are a major reason to own a Playstation.

jb2272998d ago

I mean when you honestly think about it, isn't a game like Uncharted just a slightly different version of something like Jak & Daxter or Crash? You have the high adventure, you have the unique locales, you have the platforming focus, and now you have the vehicle type detours. All it really does is add puzzles, story & gunplay, and UC4 has actively held back a lot of gunplay in favor of more pure adventuring.

I honestly think 3d platformers didn't necessarily leave, they just got rolled into games like Uncharted (of which there are far too few for my tastes) and had other game mechanics plugged in so they didn't feel quite as one note.

That said I would like to see the reverse happen, I think I would be cool with Naughty Dog doing a new J&D if they could actually add more Uncharted into it. It could essentially allow for a similar gameplay type with more freedom than ever before in crazy unique environmental designs and cool gameplay variety.

At the end of the day though, I dug those mascots when I was younger as fun experiences, but as an adult, I appreciate being able to play a game that keeps that fun while also adding emotional weight & complex characterization. It allows me to have a mental & emotional connection to go along w/ that physical one.

game4funz2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

Weren't you aware...
Your opinion isn't valid if it isn't in line with what many people here have.

Anything other then praise is looked down upon...
Just want you to know why you and I, most likely soon, have so many disagrees

Regardless I prefer naughty dogs recent games

OutcastMosquito2998d ago

Wow, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your comment. All those dislikes are unsettling indeed.

Vegamyster2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

@XiKurapikaKurta

"What people don't realize is that if ND had stuck with Platfomers, they would be in the same bad position that Nintendo is today againts more devs with bigger and more ambitious games."

Nintendo's problem isn't their platformers, the 2D/3D & Kart Mario's sell extremely well, people enjoy them and they age extremely well, Spatoon is a recent example of them letting devs making something different & it being a big success. If Naughty dog came out and said Activision is letting them make a new Crash i doubt anybody would be upset, lots of people including myself love those kind of games and i think it would be sweet for ND to make a game like that again with modern technology.

cyberwaffles2998d ago

Dude all their games are good. There's just no way getting around it unless you're a hater.

kevnb2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

same position as Nintendo? Their games sell well even when on a system with virtually no third party support... If Nintendo was able to make games for ps4 at the same quality they are made for their own systems they would be mopping the floor. Can you Imagine Mario maker on ps4 for example? Nobody can do what Nintendo does, people keep trying every now and then but they come nowhere near Nintendo in the genres Nintendo is focused on. (Except maybe okami, that game was a great Zelda type game)

Gol3m2998d ago

I don't get why everyone gets so butt hurt of dislikes. It's an easy way for people to show that they don't agree with your comment without having to type their own repsonse. People need to stop measuring their success on the amount of likes they have on the Internet from people they're never going to meet in the real world

Majister-Ludi2998d ago

I agree with a lot of what he said. The part I whole heartedly disagree with is the cinematic aspect. Many should take note because I love how the camera changes and gives it that cinematic view. Everything else he said is spot on.

nix2997d ago

"Me"?

That's like 70% of PS community. Otherwise everyone who owns PS4 would have picked up UC4. You're not special Mr. Me.

UltraNova2997d ago

Well it was about time for the usual/obligatory 'lets stealth-downplay the latest most critically acclaimed game to increase our clicks' opinion piece...

Color me indifferent.

PS: ND has found its stride and that's mature cinematic adventures. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean they can do fun platforms on the side...

Loadedklip2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

@ XiKurapikaKurta .... "What people don't realize is that if ND had stuck with Platfomers, they would be in the same bad position that Nintendo is today againts more devs with bigger and more ambitious games. "

What do you mean "same bad position as Nintendo? Nintendo is only in a "bad position" because of trying to maintain a console that only they support with little to zero help from third parties. It has nothing to do with them making actual platformers.

As a publisher/developer of true platformers.... Nintendo has always been FAR more successful commercially than Naughty Dog has. Look at Uncharted's sales vs Mario platformers 2D/3D in the last two recent generations both console and portable. It's not even close. Mario sells 5 to 20 million. Mario has MULTIPLE 10 million plus selling platformers. Uncharted has ZERO 10 million plus sellers.

Thus your comparison of Nintendo being in a "bad position" due to them making platformers makes no sense yet somehow you have a lot of likes. Nintendo is indeed in a bad position .... but making platformers is not one of those reasons why they are in that position. Get your facts straight.

Nintendo is in trouble because of them trying to maintain a console with no third party support.
Not because they make platformers.

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notachance2998d ago

lol so many doom and gloom articles about Sony now, people try too hard sometimes.

Aenea2998d ago

And plenty of articles lately of reminiscing about the previous gen's Xbox!

bradleejones2997d ago

@Xikura I couldn't have said it better.

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miyamoto2997d ago

A lot of gamers love Mario, or Halo but many also don't.

Aceman182997d ago

To the author I say

Well isn't that special.

I've a question why did you feel the need to tell us in the first place?

UnHoly_One2997d ago

I loved UC 1 and UC 2. Couldn't get into UC 3 because it had the worst and most boring intro section of any game I've ever played. That whole part where you play as child Nate. Felt like it drug on for hours and then when the real game finally started I just couldn't go on.

I need to force myself through it so I can play UC 4, though.

Never played any of their old stuff, but as for TLOU, I'm that one guy that thought it was garbage. I only finished that game so I couldn't be criticized for only playing half of it. The characters and presentation of the story was spectacular, but the story itself was nothing special and the gameplay was awful.

I just will not ever understand the love for that game, and the more I see people gushing over it being so great the more I hate it.

nosferatuzodd2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

another click bait to get people to his site he even admits it lol boy in america people will do anything for money no hanor in this country

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Whirlwind_Fanfare_082998d ago

And who the hell cares if it doesn't tickle your fancy? jeez, so what?

OB1Biker2998d ago

Exactly!
That's too bad. Haha

Eonjay2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

LOL, I don't think they were trying to 'tickle anyone's fancy'... and if it did, it probably wouldn't be safe for work.
Anywho, I would watch a video of what happens when a game does tickle him. Sounds kinky. Sounds Uncharted.

Phil322998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

Why'd you and all these people click on the article, then, if no one cares, especially you? Seems counterintuitive. Sorry, but it seems like this article from some random site really hurt a lot of people's feelings. Hilariously so, too.

OB1Biker2998d ago

Made me laugh and I commented but I doubt many clicked and read the thing. Not me anyway

Pongwater2997d ago

Commenting doesn't mean the article got a click.

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Utalkin2me2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

With a title like that you can bet money most didn't click the link and came solely for comments. But you can make yourself think that to justify your assumptions.

DragonKnight2997d ago

Yeah, I'm here for the comments also. We get to see both extremes in one thread. I got the pizza, who wants to throw in drinks?

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Gazondaily2998d ago

You lot evidently cared enough to comment. Your comment is far more pointless than his article

Dark_Knightmare22998d ago

That's not entirely true they might have clicked just to see how pointless the article was and leave their opinion about it which is totally in their right. Let's be honest though this article was created at this time because of all the hype, love and amazing review scores uc 4 has been getting and the author knew this article would get those clicks

BiggerBoss2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

What's the point of this article then septic? If he doesn't like Uncharted 4 why not just give it a review that reflects that?

It's like if I made an article "Why I hate 343i and why you should too"

The only reason you're defending this pointless "article" is your Fanboy bias. All of your comments on this page are "hurr durr if you don't like it gtfo"

jb2272998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

Really? Did you actually read the article? He essentially just lays out the games that ND has put out, mentioned the areas that people praise them in, then just says "but I don't really care....not sure why, I just don't. Not my taste".

Is there really a point in that? If so, I must have entirely missed it. There is a point that is danced around, but it seemed to me like the article exists to justify the headline and to drive a conversation...without those clear points though, it will only inspire confusion and competition.

trooper_2998d ago

You sure talk a lot before reading, don't you?

gangsta_red2998d ago

@Septic

Nobody wants to read criticisms of their favorite company. No one wants to see another point, everything is clickbait and media biased. I wonder if the title was "ND are gods" or "I want to have ND's baby" would anyone be as upset as they are now? Would people be asking "what's the point of this article" or yelling clickbait if that article was submitted to N4G?

Seriously, I never seen a fan base so hell bent and quick to grab torches, pitchforks and ban anything they don't see eye to eye with.

You guys dance, parade and twerk around every favorable opinion article but then question the relevance of opinions that don't favor your views. You can't have it both ways, you just can't ask what's the point of this story when there has been more than enough articles celebrating UC and Naughty Dog.

"The only reason you're defending this pointless "article" is your Fanboy bias. "

And the only reason you guys are attacking it is because of your own.

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jb2272998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

Yeah I definitely agree. Most especially when your reasoning for their games not tickling your fancy coming down to lines like this:

"To put it bluntly, referring to both the narratives and the characters, I just don’t care and I can’t exactly pinpoint why."

So why are you wasting both of our time not even bothering to quantify the reasoning behind your tastes? Honestly for a game as revered as Uncharted for its narrative & character work, chances are if you "just don't care" then most likely you went into it w/ preconceived notions & a lingering intent not to care. No game can live up to outside prejudices that you personally bring into them. If you don't dig this genre, it's pretty simple, just don't play it. If you dig the genre then I don't see how you can't find some strong enjoyment in titles that are considered by the vast majority to be the pinnacles of it. The headline & premise of the article isn't flawed, because obviously a game isn't going to be for every taste, but I'd have like to at least have seen an attempt at justification.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI2998d ago

Its called an opinion piece. Who cares? Its the biggest story on n4g right. So that should give you an idea.

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_smashthegamestate_2998d ago

This is gonna be good. Nice working with you, Cameron. See you at the Crossroads.

Silly gameAr2998d ago

So, you guys just pretty much came into the comment section just to warn everyone of an incoming fanboy storm? Petty much?

game4funz2998d ago

That's what the comment section is all about..... Right??? Right?????? Right???!!

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naruga2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

the article has a point though

yomfweeee2998d ago

What point? That different people have different tastes? Thanks, we already knew that. We don't need an article about it.

WellyUK2998d ago

yet we need a million articles of everyone praising stuff?? There is only good criticism.

BattleAxe2998d ago

@ Yom

Lets keep the 'Bernie' anti-free speech out of gaming.

yomfweeee2998d ago (Edited 2998d ago )

Welly he's not reviewing the game or criticizing it. He didn't even play it. He's making some clickbait headline to stir up people. He even admitted the title was clickbait.

He made no points.

Dee_912997d ago

@WellyUK
Well yea that's usually generally how humans work. We praise things we like, ignore things we don't. But for some reason there's this dumb thing on the internet where people love to talk about things they don't like and love to let it be known they don't like these things... I assume they do it for a reaction.. either from like-minded people or the people who are fans of the things they dislike. Still, seems pretty pointless to me.

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Stereotypical_gamer2997d ago (Edited 2997d ago )

What exactly is the point? That hipsters are a dime a dozen?

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Sea of Thieves Developer Rare Now Has a Dedicated Doggo Park

Rare, the developer behind pirate adventure Sea of Thieves, has introduced a dedicated dog park to its studio grounds for employees' good boys and girls.

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CrimsonWing691d 4h ago

Is the industry hurting for money or not?

Hofstaderman1d 4h ago

They belong to XBOX. Its a dog's life....

Chocoburger1d 4h ago

Nice thing they did, but not actually gaming related, not sure why this article was approved. Also strange informing us what game Rare worked on, as if we don't know their legacy.

Tacoboto1d 4h ago

Sorry you hate dog news - here's a game-related headline for you, the latest: "Deathsprint 66 is a hyperviolent freerunner that proves game journos suck at games | Video Gamer"

Yeah we need more headlines like *that* on this site, instead of news about a studio's employee perks.

GaboonViper1d 3h ago

Its actually nice to see a story like this instead of the usual doom and gloom but people still moan, anyhow hope these beautiful doggos have a great life.

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GaboonViper1d 3h ago

Really nice story, kudos to Rare.

Mulletino10h ago

I went to look at new apartments and saw only dog parks, no kid parks. We're so screwed.

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Concept Art For Bluepoint's Next Game Spotted In PlayStation Tour Video

A new PlayStation Malaysia tour video shows what looks to be concept art for Bluepoint's next game.

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phoenixwing1d 8h ago

Damn was hoping for a fantasy setting. Looks futuristic

jznrpg1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think that’s a screensaver if you look to the right it looks more like a fantasy game and so does the concept art leaked earlier. Who knows though

phoenixwing8h ago

Unless that structure/pillar thingy in the right picture is long forgotten technology it's futuristic.

Name Last Name1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Another shooter? Yawn. Thought the prevous concept looked more fantasy.

just_looken17h ago

With there same look on the right a arena setting this might be live service game #5 from sony

So a live service shooter like concord.....

StormSnooper16h ago

It looks like a fantasy game on the right screen. You are looking at a screensaver.

Goodguy011d 7h ago

Been looking forward to what they have next. Looks interesting.

Eonjay1d 7h ago

Really excited to see them release an original IP

GaboonViper1d 3h ago

Looks like my dream of them remaking Metal Gear Solid is over, still cant wait to see what they are cooking up.

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World of Warcraft developers form wall-to-wall union at Blizzard Entertainment

The new unit comprises over 500 developers representing the entire World of Warcraft development team.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Unions in gaming are necessary fr fr

montebristo1d 6h ago

I used to be anti-union, it kills productivity, investment and turns product mediocre. Their games suck anyways though so what was lost? Might as well get their people paid until they are dissolved.

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Unions are necessary regardless of how you feel. You know how fked the working class would be without them. As if we're not already.

montebristo1d 4h ago

No they aren’t, regardless of how you feel. Unions make zero sense for skill based labor. They are for people who press a button every 10 seconds on an assembly line. “working class” is a made up term. I don’t care about corporations or developers, I just want good games lol. Killing your incentives to appease the lowest common denominator doesn’t lead to great games imo

montebristo22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I wasn’t trying to be offensive if I came off that way. The Union is an old mentality and I can see their usefulness but also the danger. We’re in the age of AI and robots and skill based labor. Unions can be dangerous these days. You could replace your entire workforce in one move. Checkmate. Look to the kiosk replacing workers in the 20 dollar minimum wage era.

Well run businesses don’t need unions. If you need a Union that business won’t survive anyway. Unless it’s propped up by the government with corporate welfare (which is the real issue). If you’re not going to spend some on your workers (Amazon, Google) then your welfare is cut off. No tax breaks. All you put together don’t match their wealth and resources, the union is a traditional memory at this point and counterproductive with this new enemy we face. They need a flying elbow from the top ropes. And by “working class is a made up term” I just mean we’re not a class system and even CEO Bobby Kotick puts in a days work lol. Or did.. It’s just a vague term that doesn’t mean anything no offense lol. People say “middle class” but that can change quick right? Up or down. That’s not a “class system”.