"Reviews for Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End were published this past week, and the Internet flipped out over them because Uncharted reviews bring the very worst dregs of humanity crawling out from under rotted driftwood."
Quantum Break is just another game that will come and go, Uncharted 4 won't and you gave them the same score. I'm not condoning attacking the guy about it though and in the end 8.5 is still a great score.
Lost Odyssey scored poorly and was remembered heavily by fans. Quantum Break has plenty of content to work on for sequels to come.
The Lost Oddessy IP seems to have been ditched considering it doesn't have a sequel and the Xbox One could use a JRPG. Not really the best example.
I find it sad that this guy gave both games the same score and then throws a satire piece up about them afterwards.
If you watch Angry Joe video review on Quantum Break you will get your answer. He doesn't just tell you he shows you how bad the game is. I thought it was decent at best. http://youtu.be/IW2YeekqqtY
Better than the order 1886 though for sure.
I wouldn't know because I never played the Order 1886.
ShadowKnight "I wouldn't know because I never played the Order 1886. It's definitely better than Ryse: Son of Rome." I forgot shooting was in Ryse, good point.
What was the reason for you to bring up the Order 1886? Last time I check this article was talking about Quantum Break and Uncharted 4. BTW One thing I did like about Quantum Break was that the achievements was easy to get on my first walk through.
I played Until Dawn (actually hands on) and i thought QB offered better gameplay. you spend most of the time walking in Until Dawn making choices. and it's cheap "porn star" dialogue in that game was purposely dumb, none of it smart. The only person who was logical was Peter Stormare. the cat fights and stupid "cheating on me this and that" background story (you know what i'm talking about) was lame. it's supposed to be like a B class collage horror flick but it's no different than QB wanting to be a TV series with it's script. and IGN even gave it a 7.5, yet everyone said it was a sleeper hit. QB has a legitimate future ahead of it's self. if you actually played that game.
@Tacobell323 Ummm I actually did play the game Xbox fanboy and it wasn't that good. If you wanna know my XBOX gamertag let me know. I have to agree with Angry Joe with his review. Until Dawn had a way better story than Quantum Break. It's funny yall keep comparing other Sony exclusives with Quantum Break lol. Your history speaks for itself Lol
ShadowKnight "@Tacobell323 Ummm I actually did play the game Xbox fanboy and it wasn't that good. If you wanna know my XBOX gamertag let me know. I have to agree with Angry Joe with his review. Until Dawn had a way better story than Quantum Break. It's funny yall keep comparing other Sony exclusives with Quantum Break lol. Your history speaks for itself Lol" "Clap, clap,clap" I wasn't asking for your tag. and i actually did play Until Dawn, which does not have a better story. and i don't care who Angry Joe is. Angry Joe doesn't make games.
@Tacobell323 You are entitled to your opinion. I'm not going to go back and forth with anyone on social media or gaming website especially a fanboy.. Good day Sir.
"bring the very worst dregs of humanity crawling out from under rotted driftwood." This applies here.....
Jim, I like you but the sarcasm is lame, and you are being just as bad as what you are complaining about. I like Quantum Break, it was a great game, but I can see where people would lower the score for it, just on technical issues alone. I haven't played Uncharted 4, will soon, but if it is only as good as the first three games it is better than Quantum Break for me. Of course you are allowed to have your opinion and it's just as valid as anyone else's but with most sites, many of them just as reputable as yours, saying that it is the best game in the series and game of the year and giving it 9.5 to a 10 score and the game having current 9.5 score on metacritic, which is getting harder and harder to achieve these days, that people would question your review. By the way I would give Quantum Break a generous 8 in my opinion. You do gaming journalism on the internet, journalist, especially kinda edgy journalist, shouldn't be so thin skinned.
I don't usually like satire, but this was actually kind of amusing. He's more telling fan boys to get over themselves than anything else really. An opinion I agree with wholeheartedly. There's nothing wrong with having preferred systems or games but stop trying to shove it down everybody's throat. The worst are the ones that blatantly just make things up and straight lie, what's the point? And yes, there are really annoying ones on ALL sides of the spectrum. End of the day not everyone is going to like the exact same things you do, and that's not a bad thing. This Industry would stifle itself to death if there was no variety or competition. As long as you like it who the hell cares what random people on the Internet think?
Stop with your common sense! hehe Jim Sterling is at it again and fanboys will get enraged. This was pure undiluted satire, with a slight hint of 'I mean it' somewhere in there, if I may say. I wish Jim could answer this but based on his scoring does he really believe U4 and QB are equal games?
Just because more people have an opinion not shared by you doesn't mean its being shoved down your throat, maybe you come here with your throat wide open.
Well said. I thought it was funny. I got the humor. Both sides are pretty big hypocrites.
'As long as you like it who the hell cares what random people on the Internet think?' Jim Sterling care apparently, he care so much he write a long-ass satire so that he can have a peace of mind that he retaliated against trolling fanboys lol.
Who ever wrote this article is just ignorant, and salty. Most of his opinion mention is already answered in trilogy of Drake characteristics and why do this stuff, Uncharted 4 show how he have change because if you played the game, in the end he clearly show how wrong this article is.
The thing about satire is that it can also be used as a way to mask or redirect ones actual feelings under the guise it's all in jest.
Which is exactly what he did. Granted, I understand his annoyance. He got a lot of flack from people who were pissed that he rated uncharted 4 the same as quantum break, and it's people who haven't even played the game as yet so I can't really fault him on that. This entire piece is rage satire, it's basically him jokingly admitting to being an xbox fanboy because people are accusing him of it. I dont think he was laughing at all when he wrote this. Personally, I have never cared about jim sterling or his reviews. He has shown WAAAAAY to much bias and stupidity in game reviews in the past for anyone to take him seriously as far as i'm concerned. I haven't played either game so I really can't judge which is better from any sort of personal experience. The only judgement I can make is from the reviews I've read so far and I have issues with people who gave quantum break very high scores after seeing many videos showing glaring downsides of the game, especially when certain ps4 exclusives were hammered to death for having similar faults. I haven't seen anything but praise and statements of almost perfection for U4, so I would be very wary of anyone who gave both these games the same score whether it be high or low scores.
Well I own both, played both wanted both.. (check past comments) uncharted runs circles around qb. On. Every. Level. It's beat qb is every aspect. Gunplay ai Story Legth Replay ability Resolution Fps Graphics Voice acting Characters Difficulty Size of maps I could go on ....and I will Stability Has mp Music Sound effects Melee combat Climbing Stealth Weapon verity ...and the list can go on. To give them the same score is just bs at its finest. Yes it's his opinion...but then write a opinion piece rather that a review. A review is supposed to take everything in account, not what your opinion is. Things like graphics, frames, length, Stability are not opinions but facts. Clearly uncharted is the better game and should be scored as such.
@Kingthrash360 *facepalm* all those things are better in your opinion. Going back to square one all over again. The vast majority of people would probably agree with you, including myself, but that's completely besides the point. Stability is the only objective thing there, along with character graphics. Just about everything else you mentioned are completely different. The gunplay is completely different, the graphics are very different. The soundscape is COMPLETELY different. The story is a completely different type of story. How did you come to the conclusion that the sounds in UC4 are objectively better ? How do you even compare ? You do know that QB features some of the most impressive sound manipulation in games ? but again, how are you comparing ? Stealth ? QB doesn't even have stealth... Level Size ? bigger is not objectively better. Weapon Variety ? QB has time powers, which UC4 doesn't, which means UC4 has to rely more on weapons. Again, just completely different gunplay overall. It's not BS to score them the same if someone actually enjoys the experience the same. QB and Uncharted 4 are still very different games. Why is it so difficult to see that someone might have an overall experience with QB that they really like ? Why is it so hard to see that some people might walk away with approximately the same level of satisfaction ? For example, I find the story in QB to be more interesting in the beginning simply because of the subject matter. The science fiction part of it is very well handled and interesting to me in a way that pirate treasure simply isn't . As a result, what *could* end up happening is QB's story impacts me more than Uncharted 4. That might affect my scoring of the two games. Doesn't mean it's bullshit. A review score IS AN OPINION. A review score will NEVER be objective, neither can it be, save for a few aspects of a game, such as stability. How much do those aspects influence the score ? Again, even that is subjective and varies from person to person, from game to game. How much do you factor in other game scores when scoring a game ? Do you review a game on it's own ambitions and experience, or compare it with other games in the genre ? How far do you go with that comparison ? Again, that's subjective, and varies wildly depending on the type of game. Reviews are not objective, and they never will be, especially when comparing two games that are very different in a lot of ways. If people understand this, then maybe all the stupid "You have this game X, but this game Y" will stop. It's incredibly annoying, and doesn't make sense to begin with. It demonstrates a basic lack of understanding as to how review scores work.
That's incorrect. Frames per second Length AI... (watch angry Joe's review) MP Resolution Stability Difficulty Melee combat Weapon variety Map scale Climbing (platforming ) Are all are are not opinions . These are facts...watch digital foundry. And play both. Things like story would be opinion...but the list above are facts. These things are clear as day better and both have been analyzed . 8 could elaborate, but why. You already Facepalmed my comment covering your eyes from the truth. So at the end of the day from a technical standpoint ..(something not opinion) as a game should be reviewed on uncharted has qb trumped easy...they should not have the same review score. Period. A review should have both opinion and fact yes.. but the meat and potatoes should be based on pure fact. Stability, length, resolution, size, MP, AI, replay ability and difficulty are facts...everything else like story, characters and other opinions should be a minor point in reviewing a game. Sadly because of clicks alot of site who do reviews (according to ign evolve is a better game than both qb and uncharted, go figure) base their reviews on opinion instead of facts. And that's why almost all reviews are night and day. Some are actually reviews and some are opinion pieces.
Clicked in just to see somebody who doesn't know what satire is. There is always at least one.
Quantum Break was an ultra amazing experience. I'm going to be playing Uncharted 4 day one and see which one I like better or if they're both the same.
I played QB as the first game I got on my Xbox One this past month. The game is average at best. QB and UC4 are in two separate tiers. Just based on gameplay alone, UC4 is clearly in the top tier in comparison of the two. If there even was comparison. Unfortunately, I'm expecting you to have a few trolling comments once it's out.
Well, that is what I expect too. He said to me that Uncharted 4 has PS3 graphics. We all know he's going to downplay Uncharted 4 to oversell Quantum Break. I mean he's already calling what is a forgettable, average game, "ultra amazing". I'm already informed, as you are clearly, but you only need to watch these two reviews understand on what level Quantum Break is. Despite opinions being subjective, too much of it is inherently objective to ignore: https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... You will never find an honest opinion about Uncharted 4 that is anywhere close to as scathing.
I'm personally playing both as their own thing. Don't really care how they compare. Enjoyed QB for my time with it, and I'm hoping to enjoy UC4 with my time with it. Once I've played through UC4 enough, and feel confident in comparing the two, I probably will do so. But I'm not going to base my opinion of UC4 on how it compares to QB. That's just dumb.
If only Lol
"...because Uncharted reviews bring the very worst dregs of humanity crawling out from under rotted driftwood." Someone didn't see the comments pre and post the Order 1886 reviews most from haters celebrating its failure
Really ? The majority of Order reviews top rated comments were bashing reviewers for no reason. Probably a backlash from the pre-release hate, but it was really bad nonetheless. Any review 7/10 or below was called out for clickbaiting, xbox fanboy, biased, bashing for no reason etc. These were the top rated comments by the way. They ignored the majority of the criticisms in those reviews and kept saying "just because it's linear" "just because it's trying to innovate" etc etc Oh, yes, and "Give this game X/10 but you gave COD 9/10"... never gets old xD This happens to just about any popular game btw. Happened to Batman Arkham Knight I remember. Some people can't seem to accept the fact that a reviewer might not like the game.
This would be funny if there weren't actually people who believe this. We had people who claimed Quantum Break had more of a chance at GOTY and was more ambitious than Uncharted 4, pre-release, despite the piles of evidence and common sense to say otherwise. It was hilarious to read, but at the same time sad that they believed it. Those people are now hiding away from the reality of this to save their face. Mentioning the forgettable Quantum Break in the same sentence as Uncharted 4 should only serve to acknowledge the distinct superiority of the ND production. Quantum Break serves as a warning to developers, whilst Uncharted 4 sets a new benchmark for them.
Quantum Break was definitely better in terms of ambition and took a lot more risks being a new IP. Did it pay off? Not really as the reviews suggest. But I clearly remember your early comments for the game about you being excited and how you can't wait for it, even when footage was shown. So much evidence of those comments from you before you went full on fanboy with the notion it might compete against Uncharted. How happy you must have been when QB came out to mix reactions and reviews. I think The Order serves more of a warning to devs in terms of how not to handle a new IP. Especially when there was more evidence of that game being underwhelming, a game where for some reason you defended and accused eveyone of judging before they even played it. I guess this so called common sense is only reserved for Xbox games. Uncharted 4 has been established already in terms of gameplay and design, ND only needed to further capitalize on a brand name and polish the design and gameplay.
Well said Gangsta red @ garret ya Uncharted has to many quicktime events for my taste. The story and what it offers is great but it's so scripted it
QB is never original to be honest. It is good game for sure, but not the best.
I'm sorry but I liked the order just as much as QB. The order wasn't the best and same could be said about QB n QB should be a warning to devs too ( tv and gaming are two separate things! !). LastKing95, I don't think you've played QB at all. If uncharted 4 is " SO" scripted, what about QB ?
"whilst Uncharted 4 sets a new benchmark for them" RIP Gaming then. Because the only benchmark I've seen in all the Uncharted 4 footage I've watched is that set pieces and quick time events make up the game. Quick time event from a river, quick time event in a tower, quick time event on a bridge, quick time event fighting this person, that person. It never ends.
Do you even know what a QTE is? Because I've yet to see a single one in Uncharted 4, unless you consider the Triangle to counter stuff a QTE, and if so you must consider stuff like the Arkham games just QTE game, when a game says press Square/X to reload, and basically every game that has combos as QTE games.
"Mentioning the forgettable Quantum Break in the same sentence as Uncharted 4 should only serve to acknowledge the distinct superiority of the ND production. Quantum Break serves as a warning to developers, whilst Uncharted 4 sets a new benchmark for them." Good Lord, are you trying really hard to start a fanboy war or something ? Maybe try being a little less snarky. QB was a great game for a lot of people. Sure, the TV show was hit and miss, as predicted. It was still unique, had fun combat, and a great story. A lot of people loved it. The story for me, was one of the most interesting out there, especially after I got the whole thing. Stuck with me for quite a while.
This journalist may need a gun just to walk down the street. Hell, you are better off spitting in the face of a Russian mob lieutenant, than saying a game is better than something made by Naughty Dog.
We don't need sh*t like this, but these journalist know how to play on fanboys.
He's not really addressing the game, or even saying UC4 is a worse game...at least not seriously. It's more that he reviewed both games, and people criticized him for giving it the same score as QB. This article is more about him calling out people criticizing him based on the fact that at the present time, they don't actually know if it's better, and if I had to guess, many of these same people probably didn't play QB. I think it's a pointless article, don't get me wrong, but what he's addressing isn't exactly uncommon.
Yeah, and call it satire just in case people want to get butthurt about it.
Angry Joe review was very good. The part of nissan cars all over the place and the garbage and open the door and the huge problem with the jumps, and sleeping watching the series, the stupid AI and so on, the dark graphics. He got the balls to tell the truth.
Which is fine.....except you can literally do that about every single game. Doom - spaceships and demons, yea right. UC - Doors that also do not open, invisible barriers you cant walk through Every single game ever made, ever, has stuff that couldnt happen in real life. If you're going to nitpick one game, you better nit pick them all, otherwise you're just being a selective, biased fanboy.
and all those other people who enjoyed the game don't have the balls to tell the truth ? AI looks far from stupid in what I've seen. Series does look boring, but some people enjoyed it. "Dark graphics" What ? Nissan cars all over the place is a con ? That's incredibly stupid, I doubt AJ made a big deal about that I respect AJ's opinion, it's 100% valid. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people enjoyed it. his review is not 'the truth'
If you have to clearly state SATIRE in a satire piece (written or spoken)... Then you have most certainly failed
No, that's for the people that only read the headline and opening paragraph and jump to conclusions without even reading the article. Those are the people that failed...
Actually Jim Sterling never even mentioned the word Satire in this opinion piece. That was added by the submitter for people that only read the headline and assumed he was being serious. Clearly it's reading comprehension that has failed...
Uncharted fans will enjoy the game and quantum break fans have enjoyed quantum. And then there's those special few who play games they want to play no matter the console and will have enjoyed both.
To me they're both awesome games for very different reasons
I know this has been written by an American because they write 'Satire' next to it. I love the spirit of Americans but why is 'satire' in your hands seemingly always an opinion piece in which the satirical humour is merely that you actually think the exact opposite? Can you see how far removed that is from Swift's Gulliver's Travels in which the follies of those in power are exposed? How do you propose that Quantum Break set itself up as being so against Uncharted 4 that QB or its mostly measured fans are a fitting target? Satire, even when the term is used in the traditional way that every other country uses it, is like shooting an innocent, humble person in the back if the choice of target has no meaningful power struggle. In short, you misuse the word satire when you mean 'sarcastic spoof' (or just 'spoof')..
Actually Jim Sterling is British and the satire tag was only added by whoever submitted it after a bunch of people that didn't even read the article jumped to conclusions...
Will you shove that "has to be American" mentality up your ass please.
No because I didn't mean it offensively. I just know from many 'satire' posts that it is an American cultural convention over I don't know how many years (maybe it's a hundred for all I know or maybe it's less than 50) that you've been brought up by your education system, high and low, to believe that creating a 'spoof sarcasm', no matter how well crafted, is a 'satire'. True satire in the sense that Europeans use the word is a very ancient and noble art t http://study.com/academy/le... and, in the UK, we exclusively use the word 'satire' only for very well constructed allegories like George Orwell's Animal Farm. It's unusual, I assure you, to people outside of the USA like me how the USA uses the term so casually for what is not actually satire in its traditional sense. Let me put it this way - to me in the UK, it's the equivalent of calling prodding a dead body with a pencil an 'autopsy'. It is a total misuse of the word 'satire' that you've been brought up to believe is normal. No offence - I know the USA does many things very well, culturally and mechanically, but this dumbing down of the word 'satire' seem alien to educated UK eyes. You should use the word 'spoof' instead like we do when there is no clevering layering of personification and the like. And I didn't need to look at who wrote the piece itself (I see it was a British journalist) to know that the labelling of it as 'Satire' on N4G itself is down to N4G which, if not an American site itself (as it doesn't appear to give a country location), is certainly heavily of the American language. Yet in another part of the labelling it says 'Opinion Piece'. Well which is it? A satire (which in the American sense seems to be opposing view stated as if fact for humourous effect ie sarcasm- ie neither fact nor opinion in itself as it relies on the reader making inferences) or an opinion piece?
well I respect the views and beliefs you have been brought up in within your culture, i'm sorry I just see alot of negativity towards Americans and I understand some of it but many of us cringe or think ill of things just the same and I see so many "must have been an American" sayings.
So funny when some journalists complain about fanboys and at the same time, journalists use clickbait and benefit with fanboys discussion. Hypocrites. :)
They are both amazing games...I know it's satire, but it's all subjective...someone might actually agree with the headline. I haven't played UC4 yet, but I know I loved QB.
Some people get very angry and feel compelled to tell someone they are wrong about their own opinion. The fanboy world is a strange place. Great article from Jim as ever.
I liteally chuckeled when I read the title.
I will reserve my judgement of UC4 for when I will play the game but I'm pretty sure, given Nate's past adventures, that I will be more then satisfied. I did play Quantum Break and was very impress with this new Ip and really enjoy it and as a 1st entry I would have score this game a solid 8. Now regarding reviews of both games it's clear that both game were not review on the same level or with the same criteria by certain media. (some media blasted QB for the structure of Wave of enemy and after a platform part thus slowing down the pace yet dismissing completely that Uncharted follow the same structure!!!) My opinion is simple, some ppl wanted to lower QB due to the use of tv show inside the game. (how many time did reviewed said they were skeptical of FMV before proceeding to review the game while spending half of the review on the story and Tv show part while almost not discussing the actual game. As for Uncharted well It's uncharted We want this game to succeed that reviewer will give a pass on any flaws. The best example of this would be MGS5, it score 10 on lots of popular website. Yet some reviewer (IGN) went to say a month after in the podcast that today he wouldn't had scored the game the same score. Explaining that the map was kind of boring with nothing to do aside mission and side mission, the missions were quite repetitive and the lack of bosses. So why did everybody score it a 10? Because of all the drama around it, because it's a Hideo Kojima game and Kojima is god when it's come to game. Again in the end I'm pretty sure that Uncharted is a excellent game worthy of the series. But time will tell if this game is truly better then Uncharted 2 or another Bayonetta 2 (remember the perfect game that didn't won the game of the year nor the Wiiu game of the year?).
Jim Sterling is boss. That was brilliant
How does jim get fatter everytime you see him. Satire
Articles like this just scream of saltiness. I love Uncharteds, and i played and thought Quantum Break was very decent. Nobody is making the claim QB is better than UC. So there really is no need for satire articles like this. We are one gaming community and all this article acheives is to make UC fans who upvote this look incredibly salty. Which is a shame :(
That's rather funny cause I am yet to see a worse cry baby than Sterling.