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Naughty Dog Does DLC Right - Will Others Follow?

Gamers of the Lost Spark: With Sony announcing that Uncharted 4’s Multiplayer experience will be underpinned by a new philosophy of ‘Fairness First’ the Sparks are stunned and elated to hear that all future maps and modes will be included in the game for free and that vanity and gameplay in-game store items will all be attainable by gameplay.

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ShadowKnight1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

Hopefully they will learn from Uncharted 4 and the Witcher devs.

freshslicepizza1525d ago

naughty dog is also learning from themselves. they had microtransactions in the last of us. you could buy a weapon that was easy and overpowering to give players a leg up on the competition. thats not good dlc in my books.

ShadowKnight1525d ago

I'm talking about Uncharted 4

Aloy-Boyfriend1525d ago

Awesome

I gave a lot of feedback on that issue. Glad they listened

Gazondaily1524d ago

The big omission is lack of dedicated servers in Uncharted 4. I'd rather have dedis than free dlc

_-EDMIX-_1525d ago

Learn what exactly? Gaming is something that's subjective I'm not sure why people try to put objective understandings to something that's subjective. the reality is you're going to find developers that you believe do DLC right in the same respect you're going to find developers by your own logic you feel do games right in general lol.

By that understanding a team having good DLC is no different than somebody believing a team having a good game in general let's be honest it's not as if we hold all games in high regard. The same is probably going to be with downloadable content.

If we're going to say this about DLC we might as well start going around and saying well "we hope other developers learn from this and make good games" lol. I'm glad you guys think it's that easy...

I mean that notion sounds a bit ignorant and almost childish.

TFJWM1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

I have to disagree. They are not talking about the quality of the DLC being good or bad, they are talking about how the DLC is being deployed.

Take Battlefront as an example the game is done really well and the DLC is well made, but cutting a huge amount of Day 1 content to then sell it as DLC with a season pass is "bad DLC practices".

ND is giving away these maps and modes for free. They could easily charge for them and the DLC might even worth it but it would still would not be "the right way to do DLC"

Telling developers that this is how we want our DLC deployed is totally different than telling a developer to "make a good game"

Kribwalker1525d ago

This is what MS did for halo 5.

YinYangGaming1525d ago

Haven't games like the witcher 3 and Halo 5 already done this?

Paytaa1525d ago

Yes, but it's nice to see a trend going on even when it should be the norm.

MasterCornholio1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

Killzone ShadowFall did that as well.

http://gamerant.com/killzon...

“To increase longevity even further, we plan to continue support for the title well after launch — and yes, DLC multiplayer maps will be released free of charge to ensure everyone can play.”

@Edmix

I even remembered a time when online was free and we had these huge DLCs called expansion packs. I still remember enjoying the heck out of HalfLifes Opposing Force expansion pack.

But the article does make a point. And that's if developers like Naughty Dog, 343, Guerilla Games and CD Project Red give away free DLC other developers can do the same.

P.S I forgot to mention DriveClub that game had free DLC as well. Plus FF14.

Free DLC is nothing new but it's a good thing for developers to do.

_-EDMIX-_1525d ago

Lol so you guys are upset that for a fact someone's disproving the theory that this is something brand new? Where were some of you guys last generation where DICE/EA was giving free DLC to many of the Battlefield games?

_-EDMIX-_1525d ago

Agreed. I just feel many times when people write articles like this, they do seem to disregard a lot of developers that have been doing this exact same thing for Generations now.

PistolsAtDawn1525d ago

True, if all those big dogs can do it, there's a lot more companies that can as well (although I don't mind supporting the little studios that have less room in their budgets). As far as DC, true they did free DLC, but as I remember it...that was more of an after thought because the launch was botched...so If I remember that one correctly, that particular one is like a 50/50 in my eyes. Had the launch gone perfectly, not sure they would have done it....kinda like how MCC had a botched launch so they gave away free maps and Reach.

Silly gameAr1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

@EDMIX

I think it's the people that are trying to prove that its nothing new are the one's that's upset.

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shabz6661525d ago

Yeah halo 5 is really doing it well. Free map packs for days.

ShadowKnight1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

They should be doing it well especially after playing that single player campaign. One of the worse campaign in the entire series imo 😕

shabz6661525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

@shadowKnight lol yes true true. Omg that story was so bad. I'm such a halo fan and even I couldn't find anything redeemable in that campaign. Those hub missions which just want you to go to someone and talk and calling it a chapter once the objective is complete, just so bad. Can't believe no one has reached close to high bar story telling like nd has. Tlou should be a template of how to do cinematic game story telling and character development. Cinematic campaigns and roller coaster rides. Halo 6 campaign needs some of that

S2Killinit1525d ago

Now If only they could have made a proper game. That single player campaign set a new low for halo.

Tobsesan1525d ago

@shabz6661
You mean Storytelling in cutcene after cutcene after cutcene? Playing UC4 right now and it has way too many. Hope it changes since im only 2-3h in.

ShadowKnight1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

@Tobsesan Yes it does have great cut scenes and a lot of gameplay since the game takes 16 to 18 hours to complete. One of the best games I played this year. Way better than Halo 5 campaign imho. ND balanced the game play and cutscenes extremely well .

shabz6661525d ago

@Tobsessan Well yeah that's a problem with uc specifically.

Tlou was better at this coz they had a character progression system and pseudo rpg elements. The game had more game elements than uncharted.

Uncharted is straight up left trigger right trigger and press x to jump to next ledge game play. The quality of the game totally depended on set pieces and quality of characters in those cut scenes. That's why uc1 hasn't aged that well. But uc2 has aged well , even though mechanically the 2 games are identical. Only difference is quality of set pieces and characters.

Tobsesan1525d ago

@ShadowKnight

Well Halo isnt all about SP like Uncharted is. Most people play it for MP. But you are right, the Story wasnt that great for a Halo game, but still way better as the most games in its genre.

DigitalRaptor1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

"Most people play it for MP"

Where's your measure of this?

Oh by the way, if early impressions and reviews are anything to go by, the game opens up a TON in later chapters of the game. Many have said that it's to ground the story and establish a very strong narrative. I wouldn't worry about gameplay at all in Uncharted 4. The environments are massive and the gameplay is extremely dynamic and less linear than in previous games.

Gazondaily1524d ago

Let's be honest. Halo 5 mp smashes so many other pretenders this gen.

And its doing it right. Loads of wicked maps constantly.

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_-EDMIX-_1525d ago

Haven't games sense the ability to have downloadable content done this?

I'm pretty positive since we've had an infrastructure to allow for downloadable content we've had developers that have offered free content. I still don't really get this myth that this free content is something brand new as I'm pretty positive many people have cited other companies and even made a long detailed list of companies that have offered free content in the past.

Wallstreet371525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

Your giving credit where its not due. Killzone and GG games started tht trend :)
Just an fyi @hit Sony even did it during ps3 games too, those games u mentioned learned from Sony.

PistolsAtDawn1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

...and Gears of War announced it already....and other companies have done it.

Seems weird that someone would actually write an article saying that other companies should take UC4's lead on this one....it's like they haven't been paying attention to gaming at all. Sure it's a good move, but UC4 didn't set the trend. Either way, I do see that it's right and a great move by ND...I also can't help but notice some of the same people on this thread said it was "stupid to release an unfinished game" when Halo 5 did it. I very specifically remember people saying it was an "excuse to release an unfinished game....if everything was free, why not include it at launch"

So of course I'm all in favor of DLC, although if DLC expansions are significant I don't mind paying for them at all either if the price is right. Case in point....for Fallout 4, I would not have paid for the first two expansions, I would pay for "Far harbor"

jb2271525d ago

Witcher 3 didn't offer any online mode or dlc to my knowledge & Halo 5 never offered any sp dlc. Uncharted 4 is the only game of the 3 that will eventually offer potentially great versions of both.

For my money, TLOU Left Behind was one of the single greatest sp dlc's ever...it told its own complete & unique story that fleshed out the full game in a supplementary form, added entirely new combat, environments & gameplay mechanics, and wasn't developed until after the full game shipped. That is DLC done right by me.

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Hold_It1525d ago

Halo 5 and The Witcher 3 did this long before Uncharted 4 was a concept for development. Clickbait title is clickbait.

Aloy-Boyfriend1525d ago

Yeah U4 is also in the that group of the "Good DLC"

Will others follow?

Wallstreet371525d ago

Killzone and other Sony games did this before Halo and Witcher. Learn where it began lol it was Sony. I know yoy might not like the facts but lets not give credit where its not due lol

Aloy-Boyfriend1525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

People shouldn't really be arguing about who did it first. It's dumb!

Guerrilla Games, Evolution studios, Nintendo, CD project Red, 343i, Rainbow six Siege devs, and now Naughty Dog (in particular order this gen. Hopefully I didn't miss one) have opened the gates for other bigger, more greedy companies to follow

Pretty sure the writer is aware of previous games doing so, but the question still remains and it is relevant to the mayority that still aren't following

Wallstreet371525d ago (Edited 1524d ago )

Whos arguing? Setting the record straight. Whats dumb is telling ppl what they can and can't comment on. We all have opinions and we are all on a public site to share what we know or give opinions.

Septic just had to smash your delusions 😂 also socom also did this years ago but.....

"Microsft has been known to require developers to charge for dlc when the developers would rather release their content for free......
Some content has even been witheld because the developer refused to charge what Microsoft requured" lol

Epic games was required by Microsoft to implement fees for downloads when releasing content for their Microsoft published game "Gears of War"

Lol Septic you stay talking fanboy bs but Gears actually did the opposite and started the worst trend of charging for stuff tht should have been free and epic wanted free

If your wondering where that info came from, it came from dlc wiki lol I love schooling fanboys like yoy lol nice try though

Gazondaily1524d ago

Gears of War 1 did it for free first lol.

Record straight hehe.

slappy5081525d ago (Edited 1525d ago )

Free maps? I love that, maps should never be behind a pay wall l, it divides the player Base. I believe Plant V Zombies 2 and Halo 5 have done this already though .
I hope EA does this with Battlefield 1 like for Plants v Zombies

Wallstreet371525d ago

Sony games like killzone did this long ago just an fyi

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