First Screens of GTA IV's Graphics Engine in Action

To see the Graphic Engine that Rockstar plans to use in GTA IV for Xbox 360 and PS3 in action click here. That is right, their recently released Table Tennis game is powered by a new game engine called RAGE (the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine) and according to some Rockstar reps in a recent interview on MTV this is also the game engine that will power future Rockstar games, including the much anticipated GTA IV for Xbox 360 and PS3.

Most likely character details will have to be toned down a bit in GTA IV to keep the frame rate smooth but it should still give a good indication of what to expect.

[Anerythristic26]

Table Tennis was a graphics engine test run. You know if they would have advertised it as GTA4 graphics engine it would have sold better.

[OutLaw]

I just hope they don't hit anybody with a paddle. WOW!! those graphics are exactly like my table Tennis.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i've played the table tennis game and the graphics are pretty much awesome, but not as good as FN3's. i was hoping for more from GTA4's graphics engine...

[OutLaw]

They are going to have to do better if they want to beat out Saint's Row. I don't think none of us will settle for less.

[PS360PCROCKS]

well saints row doesn't have better graphics than this so I think Gta is fine, and it's coming out later, their game will be more polished on a more mature peice of hardware

[MoonDust]

Saints Row and Crackdown will be better. IMHO of course.

[Anerythristic26]

Is this SSJ04, again it can't be? You really have to ignore these guys there like mosquito bites , stop scratching them and they go away faster.

Edit: On another note the PS3 fans are reaching critical mass!!! They are about to explode with envy! The HATERADE is flowing and thier glasses are full! If any PS3 fans cRacK and purchase a 360 I wanna know about it!

[USMChardcharger]

if it is ssj, he forgot to double some letters for no apparent reason.
just report stupid comments like that as spam or offensive and move on.

[DG]

I wouldnt say I cracked but just got bored and knew that I wouldnt get one till at least March 07. Im happy (Hitman) with my 360 but not satisfied. Not yet. Im now an official sony/360 fan but a MS hater.I dont care if id does not make sense it does to me.

[Grown Folks Talk]

ssj04...ps3lord...ps3willrule. ..gametime i'm sure there's more, just got to weed them out. gametime's profile saying he's from north america means nothing. you just choose it when you register. pretty sad when you keep logging in and out to post as different people to get your point across, and start clicking agree on your own comments.

[Karibu]

Some of those characters have nice hair, does it look good in motion or are they just static wigs??

[PS360PCROCKS]

yeah this is cool but this game is still 1 1/2 years away

[shotty]

Why do they call it xbox 1.5. So is it the ps3 really ps2.5. I think you just entered the gaming world with your ps2. Go read the article on this site about gaming history. Ever since the 1970s all companies did was boast the specs and sell the new system i.e ps1 to ps2 to ps3. With the xbox 360 you get a online interface that is simple to use, you can also download video which is a first. You can video chat which is a first, standard wireless controllers is a first, standard harddrive is a first, it's also the first console to display games in HD. And at the rate it's going it looks to be the first console to ever play movies in HD aswell. Now tell me what the ps3 offers that no other console does, nothing new I see. Every thing was a hack job and was badly copied from other systems. Now it doesn't even deserve the name ps2.5 it's more like ps2.01

[shotty]

What part of NEW don't you understand:
-cell is an upgraded CPU
-rsx is an upgraded GPU
-Online is not new xbox has it already
-Bluetooth is another name for a wireless protocol which is already done by the xbox 360
-harddrive was already done by the xbox
-blu-ray is bacially an upgraded dvd player and the xbox 360 supports HD-DVD but Microsoft choose not to make it standard since only a handful of people would utilize it.

As we read your post it's obvious you're an idiot. You contradict yourself you claim the xbox 360 is just upgraded graphics however it offers all the feature that you mentioned the ps3 offers so according to your logic the ps3 is merely an upgraded ps2.

[USMChardcharger]

if you want to say which console was a first for HD gaming...really that was the first xbox. it was up to the developers to take advantage of that though. what a machine that big black box is/was.

[USMChardcharger]

only 5% of the population(US) has an HD-Tv.

and gametime, you don't have to call people idiots. you want last long here if you do.

[Sphinx]

I can't wait until I see the PS3 flop... I bought the 360 to play games, and I'll buy an HD-DVD player to watch movies... so what need do I have for a POS3? Ooh, I can play FF7 again!

[Anerythristic26]

I think he is going to buy a stand alone player. Also I am not impressed with the Cell/RSX chips from all the bad press they get. I wish people would stop using those chips as an example of the PS3 superiority.

[Sphinx]

The Bluray is going the way of the Betamax and UMD... yeah, those were both HUGE successes... you're betting on a repeat loser of that field.

[Anerythristic26]

Did you know that you can buy an HD-DVD player in Wal - Mart for 400 dollars! What will the Bluray player cost. Also is Wal Mart supportig HD-DVD? If they are, that is it for Bluray in the U.S. they can throw in the towel.

[shotty]

What car do you drive. I see you like the very best so what you drive a bugatti, 16 cylinder that cost you a couple million. Honestly gametime I'll tell it straight up your an idiot. You are going into financial bankrupty before your parents. You have to know every system that failed had it's most loyal followers that went down with it. Look at panasonic's 3DO it was released at today's price of $920 and it has all these fancy features and guess what it failed right away. Why because there were systems that offered the same features and was priced less, no one cares if it plays blu-ray, it's a gaming machine and if another machine before that better and at a price thats $200 less than guess which one is going to win. Do you own a psp, I'm assuming you do, I do aswell. It out clearly outperforms the DS specs wise in every department yet the DS is way more succesful than the psp. How do you explain that, well the DS is better at gaming than the psp and it is price less.

[The Real Deal]

Its true. Walmart and Best Buy are already selling HD dvd movies and players. The movies were 24.99 and new releases on sale. The great thing is you can play the HD dvd movies in your regular dvd player untill you can afford a hd dvd player. Blu ray can't do that. So yes. Sony has ignored what made them successful. It never was great graphics. It never was online play. It was the Walmart generation of gamer. And now they have lost that in a big way to Microsoft and Nintendo.

[ps3willrule]

actaully no bluray has 70 % support of film industry and production of makers so hd dvd is going down there biggest supporter was warner bothers bu there gone now...all the companies on hd dvd side support blu ray to its pretty much obviouse blu ray is going to win the reason y other people are delaying players is cause sony has royalties

[shotty]

True but HD-DVD doesn't have 30% support it has more. Its because there are movie studios that support both sides like Warner Bros, Disney. The 30% sony is missing is universal which is only with HD-DVD so movies like fast and the furious, born identity and the others will never make it to blu-ray. Sony's support will slowly fall like HP and Dell dropping exclusive support of Blu-ray and instead supporting both. But don't forget HD-DVD biggest supporter Microsoft that said that from day 1 windows vista will fully support HD-DVD and will include all the nessaray drivers and software to view movies off it and some HD-DVD creation tools. Intel the number 1 processor maker also fully backs HD-DVD. Sure Sony has the majority of movie studios but computer wise HD-DVD has clearly the majority support. Now that Microsoft has said that come this christmas and xbox 360 with HD-DVD add-on will be cheaper than the ps3. So sony can no longer argue that they have the cheapest next generation player because now microsoft has it.

[Sphinx]

The only reason anyone is supporting Bluray is because they are owned by Sony or are a sister company. Once the general public chooses the less expensive version, Bluray will show big losses and will then be abandoned like the Betamax and UMD.

[shoota33]

that is all a dream to you but face reality blu ray is superior and thats why it has support.so go ahead and buy your dvd 1.5

[OutLaw]

I'm getting a HD DVD. Not that I think it's better than Blu ray. But I just Can't see myself buying a $1000.00 player. Just to get the same type of clarity from a movie on a lesser expensive player. HD DVD for me.

[GTProwler]

Blu-ray is great and all, but its really up to the middle man to decide who is gonna win this format war, cuase any kid who doesnt pay a house, car, cell phone, utilities or any kind of other bill can easily afford it, but to somebody like me which i have a 350Z to pay, im happy with my 360, i dont need HDTV right now it wont kill me. I just play games, and seeing what PS3 has to offer, the 360 can give me the same at a much lesser price. Trust me im not gonna lose my Car for a PS3, No Way

[Cyclonus]

Back in the day, Betamax had the support of nearly all Movie studios too, because the format was very anti-consumer. It didn't respect "fair use" and you couldn't record on it.
It was the CONSUMER who killed Betamax(with their wallets) by supporting VHS....the movie studios will always follow the consumer, not the format.
And if the people decide they like the price of HD-DVD players(starting at $499 vs. BluRay at $999), and they're happy with the PQ(HD-DVD looks AWESOME), then the studios will dump BluRay like a sack of sh*t.

[Moostache]

Betamax WAS able to record on just as easily as VHS. I know this first hand because I had a beta-player (made by Sanyo) and I was able to record movies on the format off of cable TV easily back in teh early-1980's.

I do believe that HD-DVD will win out, but I believe that because the media and more importantly the production costs of HD-DVD are lower. Which is the single biggest market in home video? Sci-Fi? Comedy? Rommances? NOpe, nope and nope. It is PORN. Poor production quality, cheap to mass manufacture PORN. The porn industry will look long and hard (no pun intended) at the two formats, they will flood the market with cheap HD-DVD porn and from there it is all over but the crying. They want the home video market to be ascheap as possible to compete with the flood of internet porn. The advantage they have is that a lot of people prefer to watch their porn on TV's in the bedroom and not on PC screens in the office. There is a big and growing market for big-screen HD porn, and HD-DVD has a better chance at being adopted there than BD.

You don't have to believe me, really, I don't care. But remember this when in about 5 years you read about it in the WSJ or NYT business section....

[Phytonadione]

Who in the hell wants to watch porn in HD? Do you really want to have those stretch marks and implant scars in HD? HD is great for a lot of different programs, but when it comes to porn, the less "defined", probably the better.

[The Real Deal]

Microsofts brand xbox/xbox 360 has more games per console sold than any system in history. Including the 100 million ps2's out there. But no one knows how many out of that 100 million sold actually work? because its odd to me that Microsoft sold 30 million plus xboxes and over 5 million 360's thus far. But yet have sold more games per console. Think about it. The real gamers. The guys and gals with the money who actually play games, prefer the Microsoft products as the numbers of games sold per console would say. So if the bulk of the Sony fans don't even buy many games for their beloved system, why would they all pay 600 plus for a ps3? yeah the hardcore sony fan boys will buy it. But what about the other 99 million so called sony consumers that only buy one or two games in the life cycle of the system? Do they care about blu ray? Do they have a 1080p hd tv? Sony forgot that the bulk of their consumers are the Walmart Generation. Microsoft already has deep claims on the high end gamer and has since the original xbox. Nintendo will capitalize on Sony's mistake. 360 is a no frills game machine ONLY. Ps3 is a cheap blue ray player that also plays games. Thus the high price point. lol...its somthing to think about. P.S. I have 2 high end computers, 6 xbox 360's, Game cube, Ds, And a Playstation 2. And I had 4 xboxes that I never once had to replace but 1 ps2 that I have replaced 3 times since the launch. Besides God of War the xbox outperformed the ps2 so most of my money went on xbox games.

[Sphinx]

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
What he said!
Booyah!

[shoota33]

me and everyone i know only had one ps2 since and nothing is wrong with it.you xbox 1.5 fanboy go to the extreame and say oh i had to go thru 4 or 5 ps2's. stop useing this as an excuse of why xbox and xbox 1.5 got it ass kicked by 3x and still is getting wooped by ps2
there was nothing wrong with the ps2 after launch so you have to stop and think you cant leave your ps2 on 24/7 or maybe YOU just did not take care of it properly

[shotty]

#13 you are the real deal. But sony fans are dumb let them waste their money. I own a psp and I regret buying it, the only thing I use it for now is mp3. The software is a pain to get movies onto, and the games in my opinion suck. I'm going to try to sell it before they announce the xbox portable and the psp prices plumit.

[Anerythristic26]

Actually I feel that most XBox gamers are older or more mature and working. With Jobs comes more disposable income. I bet a company would rather have 30 million units sold to people that buy games whenever they feel like it to younger children that get a game on thier Birthday and a game for the Holidays. It makes sense.

[USMChardcharger]

man you must hold some lan parties. that is a lot of 360's!

gametime...a local gamestop in my town told me this: since launch of the PS2, the sony rep has had to replace the demo system over 8 times because it breaks.
our xbox demo is the one that has been installed since day one.

[The Real Deal]

yeah we have fun playing the 360's. I have 6 of every multi player game. I have 61 inch Samsung Dlp in the living room with full surround sound and 4 Aqua Sharp 43 inch LCD tvs in the den. And 1 Samsung 32 lcd upstairs in my room. They are all connected to my 4 port router and 4 port switch with the comcast cable 8 meg internet connection. I have 6 gamer tags so we can all play online together as well as in house lan games. I'm the Real Deal. I have over 2000 dvd's. I work in the music business so money isn't an issue. I just love games.

[USMChardcharger]

if i was in your position that's how i would do it...nice. game on my man, game on!

take note everyone...here is a gent that maybe someone you listen too on the radio or gets those you like to hear in the studio.
my point here...be nice (unlike gamertime) you never know who you are talking to online.

[halo4life]

no ones listens to me PS2 is a Casual system

[PS360PCROCKS]

11 your right pretty much, but we'll see if it fails before I say it sucks or will fail

[kingboy]

go to any bluray site and see the major movie studios and other companies supporting it.lol try praying 7 times a day so it fails which will not happend.

[Sphinx]

History repeats itself, Sony's Bluray will fail, I hate to say it, but it is too soon for the Bluray, the general public aren't ready to pay that much for it! If Sony could only make it less expensive... but they can't, so it won't. Sorry, but I'll let you know how nice watching movies in HD is!

[Bill Gates I Am]

Oi oi, let's get this back on topic.

I hope to God that they have table tennis paddles as weapons in the new GTA game. Going around the city, whacking people across the head. Hearing wood hit wood. Niiiiiiice!

[shotty]

They might have a ping pong mission, that would be funny.

[The Real Deal]

Oh don't get me wrong. I don't think Sony will fail. But there is no way they could be nearly as successful this time around with the high price point due to the choice of using a 1x or 2x blue ray player. Sony would have dominated again if they wouldn't have used blu ray. I really think thats where they went wrong this time around. You have to think about their install base. Because they didn't when they made that choice. Microsoft is smart because they made it an option to get HD dvd drive add on. They realize what Sony doesn't. Most people don't care about high end movie playback. And if you do care...make it a choice rather than force you to spend 300 more for your console just to play high def movies. Think about it.
P.S. Sony fans....I have one question for you. Why do you think Sony has 100 million ps2 sold but yet sells less games per console than the xbox and xbox 360? Honestly. Microsoft has a record setting pace with the 360 right now. 5 games sold per every console. Sony is at 1 or 2 games per console. Could it be that Sony actually has more games sold per console if you discount all the ones that don't work? Honestly. Think about it. Because I don't know anyone who owns a Sony system and only has 1 or two games. Most people have a few. Makes you think huh?

[shoota33]

ms is giving dvd 1.5 just like they give you xbox 1.5

[omansteveo]

Look at what you guys are arguing about a but of "Gamers" arguing about movie support this is exactly why i didnt like the idea of sony using their super popular game system as a trojan horse for their blu-ray technology...why are we arguing about movies instead of discussing games on a video game site...you guys are the reason sony is doing what they are doing bc they know that they're millions of fans will back them no matter what which is why they show bogus tech videos and a tell you half-truths about they're system bc they know no-matter what if the ps3 only does half as good as the ps2 they walk away with loaded pockets and they sleep easy bc they succeded in what they were trying to do all along and thats making sure that sony pictures makes as much money as possible...sorry no puntuation just went nutz bc i hate this

[Gamer13]

Can,t wait to see it in action.

[Sphinx]

GTA will be fun... but I'm wondering if Saint's Row will be better, doesn't matter if it is a copy-cat if it's better!

[shotty]

gametime your life = ken k. 1.5

[shoota33]

shotty your life =Bill G. 1.5

[Sphinx]

I think Sony fanboys are proud of their recent education in the field of fractions... but I don't think they realize 1.5 is a 50% increase on 1. I'll make it simple: $1,000,000 compared to $1,500,000... or 3 testicles compared to having just 2... or having all ten fingers instead of just 7 and a half... I could go on if that still doesn't make sense to you.

[Fuzz McDeath]

...There are currently almost 108 titles ( http://www.hddvdprg.com/lis... for HD-DVD, and 114 titles for Blu-Ray ( http://www.blu-ray.com/movi... Seems like they are getting about equal support from movie studios (meaning, studios are supporting both until there is a clear winner).

Also keep in mind that Sony Pictures (which includes Sony Pictures Entertainment (SPE)
Columbia Pictures,Sony Pictures Classics, Screen Gems and TriStar Pictures), for obvious reasons, will not put any of their movies out on HD-DVD). 26 of the movies on the Blue-ray list are from Sony themselves. This means that, technically, HD-DVD has more support from the other movie studios (108 to 88 movies).

[shoota33]

your an idiot dvd 1.5 does not have more suppoort.just because they have almost as much movies at the time does not mean they have more support it just means the one or two studios that they have are putting out alot of movies that they made.blu ray insn even out yet and has more movies than dvd 1.5

[OutLaw]

The only reason I say if true is because I couldn't get those links to work right. But if it is true than buying a HD DVD right now should be a no brainer.

[Fuzz McDeath]

www.hddvdprg.com/list/list.pdf and www.blu-ray.com/movies/

[The Real Deal]

Something else to think about. Every company could support blu ray. That doesn't matter folks. Remember one fact...The consumer has to buy it for it to work. lol...So when your average Joe or Grandma or Mommy goes to Walmart and see's a blue ray player for 1000 dollars and a HD dvd player for 400 dollars and she or he asks what is the difference and the guy at walmart says " Well they both play HD movies and look the same. What do you think MOST people will buy? lol...Better yet. When you can buy an HD dvd movie right now for 24.99 and play it on your dvd player right now untill you have the 400 to get a hd dvd player which do you think the walmart generation will buy? Blu ray movies start at 39.99 on Bestbuy.com. I went to best buy and the guy on the floor told me that exact thing. He told me the only difference is blu ray holds more info but the movie quality is identical. 600 dollar price difference and you can't justify it to the average consumer? lol...Now put all this into context. Movie studios see that there are many more hd dvd players sold over the next year than blu ray. What do you think the movie studios will do then? 60 out of the top 100 movies are confirmed for the hd dvd player already. More Movie studios doesn't mean more big movies. Sony fans/ Blu ray fans...just stop and think about it. Think about the average walmart consumer and you can see clearly who will win the video game and hd player wars. Its business 101 which sony has failed this time around.