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AMD Heavily Hints at PS4K and Other Consoles (Again)

We’ve survived weeks of PS4K rumours without going mad, so what’s one more on the pile? AMD has once again hinted that we can expect three new consoles coming later this year and sometime in 2017.

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DopeTech2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

We all knew this was coming from Sony and MS too, PS4 NEO is coming. Xbox 1.5 is coming too.

In 2016 & 2017, now I think Xbox 1.5 is gonna come out in 2017 alone, that'll even let MS make the most powerful console this time around at the same price of a PS4 NEO or at 499$ If they want to go crazy with the technology. I hope the PS4 NEO is priced at 499$ so we can see a big leap from PS4.

MasterCornholio2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

Neo may come out in 2017. One thing thats for certain is that if Sony and Microsoft dont confirm anything at E3 the two systems will come out in 2017.

Who knows which one will be more powerful though.

P.S Microsoft wont give Sony a headstart.

nveenio2975d ago

What's ridiculous about the speculation we're seeing is that the PS3 also saw chip upgrades during its life cycle, and no one speculated that it would be sold as a new system. I hold to my speculation that, if anything, Sony will market this as the PS4K and nothing more. A PS4 that's built for UHD discs and maybe is even a little better at handling PSVR. Other than that, the chip upgrades are probably just standard updates based on manufacturing and cost differential. Nothing to do with trying to out-power anything else. It's way too early in the cycle to do this to so many adopters of the PS4.

starchild2974d ago

It's anybody's guess. Honestly the leaked specs really aren't making any sense to me.

Original PS4
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s

Neo
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

I just can't see what the purpose for this hardware would be. It certainly won't run modern AAA titles at 4k resolution.

It doesn't have enough additional graphics processing oomph. Nor is there an increase in VRAM amount, which you would expect because devs tend to use all the memory they can get and if a game is already maxing out the memory in the PS4 to do1080p (or in some cases 900p) you're certainly not going to be achieving 4k resolution, even with a bump to the bandwidth. 4k can use well over two times as much VRAM as 1080p, depending on the game.

So it's definitely not for AAA 4k gaming, but what about framerate? At first seeing that the GPU is supposed to be around twice as powerful as the one in the PS4 made me think it's intended purpose is to run PS4 games at 60fps instead of 30fps. But thinking about it more I don't believe that the new CPU will reliably support a doubling of framerate. While CPU requirements don't necessarily double the way GPU requirements do, since a lot of the game logic is the same whether at 30fps or 60fps, it is still generally going to require more than the 30% this upgrade seems to offer. Certainly many games that are already tapping out the PS4's CPU will have issues achieving 60fps on the PS4 Neo.

All of this makes me doubt the veracity of these specs. But if the leaked specs are wrong it makes you wonder how accurate other aspects of the leak are.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2975d ago

Since there is absolutely no credible or official evidence to suggest that Sony has any plans to release a new console with new hardware in this console cycle, wouldn't actually be prudent to assume that AMD is making a chip for the PS5?

Nemo882975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

Yep and actually, if this report is accurate in its insinuation and AMD is only forecasting revenue this upcoming quarter from the "semi-custom" wins, and talking about RECENT wins, then Neo couldnt be coming up this October. Or they are talking about somethig else. But the deal for Neo hardware would have been closed a while ago if the finished product is due in 4 months...obviously

Satou2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

Honestly they said Nex-gen will be 5x as powerful and ready in 2018, so I highly doubt it's a PS5 chip this early. I'd kinda rather see them do PS5 in 2017 than PS4 Neo in 2016 though. The node switch isn't going to be any different to the tech will be the same whether PS5 is released in 2017 or 2018. It just makes more sense to release a PS5 a year early and just charge an extra $100 or so, than to do a halfstep PS4.5 in 2016 only two years off from nexgen, when they could just bring nex-gen a year early. Imagine upgrading to PS4.5 then PS5. What a waste. Just give us PS5 early the tech isn't going to be any different, and the extra $100 you spend for getting the console a year early is nothing compared to wasting $399 on a half-step PS4.5.

DeadlyFire2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

AMD stated they would start producing next gen chips by 2018.

Since nothing has leaked from Microsoft. It's safe to say nothing is coming in 2016, or 2017 from them. So next gen PS, XB won't come until at least 2018 or later. Like 2018-2020.

ooquis2975d ago

AMD makes the hardware for all consoles, this was their strategy from the beginning. The console upgrade is AMD's doing. Maybe it makes business sense.....what do i know.

Junior45652975d ago

Well it would help keep AMD in the black I guess.

bf0007779662975d ago

Amd really have the hobby of leaking their partner's imformation

Fatal-Aim2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

@ Dopetech

The PlayStation 4 Neo is twice as powerful as the PS4. The PS4 is 50% as powerful as the Xbox One. If the XB1 is to be more powerful than the Neo, it has to be 250% more powerful, which is going to lead to cost issues. If Microsoft's XB1 had trouble breaking even when compared to the PS4 ( https://technology.ihs.com/... ), it'll either be more expensive or weaker than the Neo but I doubt both. Microsoft is already losing money on every XB1 that is sold below the PS4 price, which is why they have to bundle in so many games to help reduce some of that cost, which is also why such a price cut is only available in select regions -- starting with their own.

Muzikguy2975d ago

How does bundling games to a system that's "losing money" reduce cost? That doesn't make sense. Games cost money too and publishers aren't just handing them out for free

Fatal-Aim2974d ago

@ Muzikguy

When compared to the PS4, the XB1 is about $15 more. Which means at $400, Microsoft was just breaking even on the console if not losing a few dollars. At $350, Sony is making a profit off the PS4. Microsoft undercut them $50, putting the XB1 at $300. If they were already breaking even at $15 more than the PS4, then certainly $50 cheaper than PS4's $350 price must have set them back by $65 as loss on the console. If they bundle two games, one of those games is going to eat most of that cost lost on the hardware, essentially taking the XB1 back to an imaginary $350. From here, the second game eats the remaining loss and in return provides very small profit. Why do you think Microsoft are always bundling their own games with the system. They are using it to eat to losses being made on the XB1 at it low price tag

conanlifts2974d ago

Your sums are off a bit. The ps4 is closer to 37% more powerful. This doesn't take into account the xbox one has 10% extra cpu power, nor that it has slower memory. Now on the other side if ( i have no idea where you got 2x more powerful from) the ps4.5 were 2x more powerful than the ps4 the xbox 1.5 would actually need to increase in power by 2.75% ( or 3% by your rule of 50%power difference between the two).

madworld2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

with all due respect I'm with new upgradeable consoles without doubt for god sick people why you fraeking out if you want the new consoles buy it if you don't like IT leave it ,it is very damn simple
final thing the current consoles can't even running some games like the division on 1080p 60frs and the consoles version is like mid,low setting on PC ..holy moly indeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed we need new upgradeable consoles people understand this after 2 years with same consoles with these hardwere it is gonna be very huge gap between consoles and PC

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uth112974d ago

Could it be that AMD are the ones forcing this change? Sony/MS need new chips to allow for slim designs, maybe AMD cant/won't deliver them without more power?

Fin_The_Human2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

Stop bringing MS into this.

Its only a PS 4.5 coming out.

Ceaser98573612974d ago

Whats with this Universal Windows Platform (UWP) xbox fans are talking about. A fren of mine says UWP will help to port games on the new xbox easily where as devs need to work twice for each games releasing on the ps4 and neo???

Ysmir67232974d ago

100$ more for better cpu,gpu,power supply???Educate yourself.But i forgot that people actually bought a plastic box with a 40$ mb.,60$ cpu and 70$gpu for 400$,excluding online,bigger hardrive,extra controller and warranty...

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Aloy-Boyfriend2975d ago

PS4 and Xbox One are one gen late. Had they come between 2010 and 2011, it would have been amazing and many games held back like BC3 and TLoU would have benefited a lot. Right now we would have been excited PS5 and XboxTwo coming with a significant upgrade, but no. We are getting PS4K that if the specs reported by Eurogamer are true, then it is not that significant.

Fk this gen!

Rimeskeem2975d ago

If the specs that are reported are true, they are actually decently significant. The whole console gets like a 1.5 times boost compared to the normal PS4.

Whirlwind_Fanfare_082975d ago

Indeed. I'm definitely getting the NEO!

Movefasta19932975d ago

Wouldn't you rather them wait just 2 years for a huge upgrade?

Liqu1d2975d ago

Yet it'll still be held back by weaker hardware.

JayH19802975d ago

The increased specs are decent on paper but really aren't crap in real-world usage. The system will still not exceed 1080p in any graphically challenging games and 60 fps stable may even still prove to be challenging at times. It's just not enough of a jump in hardware to make a WOW! Stuff will run smoother and may have cleaner sharper lines but don't expect to see much else.

WhoCaresWhatMyNameIs2974d ago

Original PS4
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s

Neo
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

The Neo console is just spec'ed out for 4k resolution output since 4k is basically twice the resolution as 1080p. Internet is blowing this up over nothing. They are strict about supporting the original PS4 so I don't see the big deal.

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Randostar2975d ago

the gpu is getting quite a hefty boost. Everything else was a lil more minimal.