ScreenCritics takes a look at the latest controversy surrounding The Division.
I had a lot of fun getting to lvl 30 but the end game was horrible pre patch. All I ever got for drops was purple gear that I didn't need. It was completely frustrating. Patch 1.1 was too little too late for me. We should have been getting gold drops at lvl 30 on release. Hopefully the DLC will be redeeming. Until then, it will remain on my shelf collecting dust.
How much time did you spend in the DZ? Yeah the gold drops were far and few but they happened. I got 2 MIDAS' in the DZ in about an hour. Now gold drops so frequent and you can either use it for the materials or recalibrate. Falcon Lost is really good and the blueprints for highends have been there since day 1. You just need to get phoenix credits. Most of my high ends before the patch were due to blueprints and crafting.
just because you don't fancy it doesn't mean it's no good. my buddies and I enjoyed the waves of enemies and testing out random guns for kicks. everybody won't like what you like..that's okay, i promise.
I platinumed it and stopped playing.. I have the season pass though, so I'll eventually go back, even though they're making BS items paid and not part of the season pass, which should include everything. I wasn't interested in playing for tens of hours for relatively few chances at rolling potentially better gear. Many hundreds or potentially thousands of hours to get your ideal spec loadout, no thanks. Then spend all that time, just to have the level cap raised in a later update, so all of the stuff you spent hundreds of hours scavenging, crafting, or the rolling specs of becomes obsolete.
@EeJLP That's one of the reasons I never even started to play the division. The beta was enough for me
Honestly stop lying to your self, all the gold drop in DZ are GS 163 with the occasional 182 all of that is really just crafting parts. Not actual upgrades to your gear at all. And thats terrible that all the end game drops unless its GS 192+ is just for crafting. They nerfed the drops more than anything in 1.1. Sure we are seeing more yellows, but 99% are trash save for the occasion gear set item you find
A lot of time in the DZ
Your scavenging level must suck. Before the patch I got gold quite a number of times. That's a huge factor in how often you get a gold drop.
That's completely incorrect. It has more to do with the quality of the drop, versus how often high end items drop for you. Especially considering how high end items drop for you all the time now. That right there should inform you that your idea of scavenging is incorrect. For example, pre-patch my scavenging was at 40%, I got some high ends but were all ilvl 30 (163gs). Post-patch, my scavenging is at 106%, and I get high ends all the time just like everyone else, but where some might get 163gs items all the time is where I now get 182gs items now, with a higher chance of getting ilvl 32 loot, or 214gs.
It's a month later. Too little too late?? My god kids these days...
No offense to anyone who lives the game, bit it has no lasting power. As many mmo rpgs have learned, ot is very difficult to keep making content for people. Ubisoft made a killing, and they may farm whales for a bit, but its a rarity that a game continues to be successful. Enemy variety and lack of a true end game is tough.
There is some truth to that sure. But keep in mind there are plenty of games out there that had no real "end-game content", centered on blind repetition and still managed to keep people coming back for years. Games like COD and LoL are prime examples.
Exactly. I'd rather play the division not knowing what's about to drop than a constant match on cod or a game of FIFA, everything is repetitive after a while not just the division....
Like i said before anyone who thinks a console mmo with out a subscription or micro transactions is going to do well is delusional. Like it or not destiny did it right with micro transactions. That way they can put money back into the game and give free content updates and not fixes that are called a content update . Last your game can't be a one time purchase and then expect updates constantly . It has to be free to play, subscription or has to have a variety of stuff in the cash shop. Content updates aren't free :P
Lol at the disagrees. I am very open minded so please tell me game that was successful that was a one time purchase trying to do a mmo experience.
You are getting disagrees because people paid for dlc with destiny. They didn't just give that content away AND as far as destiny goes the dlc was in the game until Activision made them rip it out to sell later. The problem with the division is it has less variety than destiny did at launch which is UNBELIEVABLE. There is no end game. The dark zone is garbage. Its a zone run by rogues using exploits to get million damage per shot guns and armor thats so strong you can't hurt them. Ubi soft has no damn clue what they are doing with this game and they put no.thought into the end game beyond "darkzone". Then once we realized that was horribly broken they whipped together a god damn room and called it incursion. It has nothing to do with paying a monthly fee. Jesus Sega managed to keep PSO on Dreamcast fresh with new missions on a console that didn't even have patching or DLC. Oh and there is 1 example. PSO was a massive success worldwide on Dreamcast and Xbx and pc Also in case you somehow didn't notice neither destiny nor division are MMOs. They are actually using the same gameplay model created by Sega for...what? PSO!!!!
The most recent content update was not from a season pass. It was an actually content update made free from the micro transactions
Timeless you've been hating the game since we played together. Lol It's not about the model of what it's doing, you have been pretty vocal that you just didn't like it.
destiny and other subscription based mmo's made more than enough money on the base game to carry out dlc's and updates for years. you trying to make excuses for what you think are basement kickstarter devs/publishers is comical, acting like you're doing the rest a good cause by throwing away money on content that can be earned in game or should be free in game. what's sad is that you believe what you said and that is the scary part because you're not alone. Truly epic!
The new POE is so terrible. The new strike is also pretty meh, just a rehash of an old mission. I love Destiny, but if this is what the Transaction are buying so far it is a major fail.
@Zone I am still waiting on a example. Until then your opinion really isn't valid. Division would have made alot more money if they had just put more clothing options in the cash shop. Some of that money would had made it back into the game content updated instead of a season pass.
i just want everquest 2 aon my ps4 damn i loved that game.
that would be cool. I enjoyed the game when it first came out more because you had to reach a certain lvl to become that class, evertyhing felt a bit different
Me too. I still remember the days of EQOA on the PS2 playing on my dialup aol internet. Those were the days.
Still enjoying it. Trying to collect the new sets!
Got a few set pieces, the stats are noticeably worse than my current gear and I'm only gear rank 151? The bonuses don't make up for the lost stats!
Whats worse is that I got some gold gear that isn't quite as good as my purple gear for my current choice of weapons, but because I have it in storage I get pushed into DZ 161+ even though my current gear level is 155. I could understand it if I were carrying that high level gear, because you don't want someone switching into high end gear after entering the 160 and under DZ. But my gear is in storage and inaccessible from the DZ. Am I going to have to sell or dismantle it just to get back under 160, that would be really stupid.
i get the logic. If you have 160+ gear, then you are 160+ regardless of where you put that gear. you shouldnt be able to sandbag your character to get into lower tiered areas.. in theory.. i totally get why you would do that, but i think that is their thinking
But their logic is illogical. If I can't use my high end gear then my character is not currently 161+. I've since tried destroying my excess high end gear and it seems to have made no difference, I'm still being pushed into the 161+ DZ. I'm not sandbagging my character, I just didn't like that gear and never actually used it other than to equip it once to see how it affects my stats. I currently have all my best gear equipped and I'm still at 155, I can't get any higher than that with the gear I currently own, so I'm being punished for having received high end drops that I didn't like.
if it persists even after youve trashed the gear then thats wrong.. bug or oversight id guess
Most of the people I know who played it are completely over this game and have no interest anymore, shame it looked so promising.
Hm lots of friends and I are enjoying it a lot.
Don't forget if N4G's say it's dead, it's dead,.. Not in my house, I'm still playing it. I can't stop, got many Uplay friends who are on it every day like myself..
This is my experience, too. Most folks I know are pretty much over it. I like how people "disagreed" with your own personal experience. LOL
I dislike how instead of punishing the ones who took advantage of the exploits they nerf drop rates across the board increasing the gap between cheaters and honest players even further. Hell ive used them, im not affraid to admit it. Its becouse you cannot be competetive in the Dark Zone without them...
I dont think massive have ever done a game like this so they were bound to make mistakes. Its going to take them some time to figure out how to get the loot and progression right. If you look at Destiny, its a very different game now compared to when it first launched.
You sir are my new friend. I don't understand why people are freaking out. There's people at Massive that are currently employed by Massive that are working every day to try and improve the game. It's not like they released the latest patch and just walked out. The game has been out for a little over a month. Magic doesn't happen over night, unless you're Harry Potter, obviously. People need to learn patience.
Not sure about killing it. I've enjoyed my time with the game. It's been great fun it just doesn't have the staying power that destiny had for me. I'd ran out of motivation for improving my gear before the patch and now that I realise the incursion is basically a hoard mode (my fault for not looking into it sooner) I've even less motivation to get ready for it. Fun game but I'm effectively finished and done everything I want to (cleared out every area of side missions, encounters and collectibles). After playing two of these style games, I've had my fill of the mmo genre. Had good times and made some great gaming friends because of it, but time to stick with stuff that's not as time consuming for very little.
This game should not have the Tom Clancy seal of approval. I've never seen a Tom Clancy game where players become super heros , playing as bullet sponges. This game is a disgrace to the brand.
The game has gone a bit sideways. They've fallen into every MMO trap in the book, and ironically most of those come as a result of giving too much credence to player opinions. They're trying too hard to cater to MMO traditionalists, and MMO traditionalism is what ruins these games.
Massive need to get back to making strategy games. World in conflict 2 would be a good idea about now.
This is why games shouldn't be made for PC. PC users are always the ones to hack/cheat and find exploits. Those exploits then trickle down to the console crowd. 90% of the PC community play games simply to find exploits and use them to ruin other peoples experience. If this game wasn't on PC it'd have far less exploits and would be a much better experience overall.
Never had a problem. In fact on PC I've been killed by rogues about three times in 80 hours. Most people are helping each other & ive yet to find anyone using hacks or exploits on any mission or DZ when I've been playing.
I spent almost a week play time in total and then i became fed up with repetitive activity. Daily Mission, DZ, Daily Mission, DZ rinse and repeat. That was before the Incursion update though. I think it is time to go back to Fallout 4 :P
Same here, its way too repetitive. Go to Dark Souls 3, its awesome.
Loving the game. Played about 80 hours so far, I can't stop playing it. It plays & looks amazing on PC & I haven't encountered any problems that we get from new releases these days. My main gripe is if your right near the end of a challenging mission some people drop out making it nearly impossible for the remaining guys to finish, but that's not the games fault..
i have fun with the game it does help everyone in my clan is over 200 gs we reck in dz
I really dont care for The Division. Got it for free and thats a good thing saved me $ I would have regretted spending. I literally cant stay interested in it to complete 1 mission.
I stopped playing after getting 2 Level 10 & finding out its hard playing with friends which is why I wanted this game mainly so suck it Ubisoft
When developers stop putting half games out we will be happy. A Tom Clancy game that just put an extra health meter on top of the next enemy after the previous ? Onemtime it was one enemy and me and a friend got shot at the same time LOL. Just didnt know after all these years that I would miss single player games over online cause the content online is lacking.
End Game Content please. Dark Zone is fun for a while, but the incursion is bleh imo, and I can only run so many challenge missions...
I'm enjoy The Division xD. I like hunting for rogues, better equipment and comparing my equipment to my friends. If you lost interest in the game there's nothing wrong with that it happens.
I have very mixed feelings about The Division. I love what they did with the setting, the City itself is amazing. I also like the Talent and Perk system for guns and gear. It is done really well. The enemy AI is also very well done. The issue is that while that base of the City, AI and Gear is great, the actual missions themselves have very little variety. People hated on Destiny, but the Raids had so many awesome mechanics that required thinking outside of the Box where The Division is just purely kill before being killed. I still enjoy it a lot, but I am hopeful that the next Incursion will be more than just a horde mode.
The comments here, even the ones I disagree with, are better-written than the article. Bleugh.
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