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PlayStation Plus April Lineup Is Solid, The Hate Is Unwarranted

ThisGenGaming says "Sony announced their PlayStation Plus free games lineup earlier today and as usual people are unhappy with the results. This month on PS4 Plus members get the brand new Dead Star plus Zombi which was originally a Wii U launch title from Ubisoft. The game finally made it’s way to PS4 and Xbox One late last year. On PS3 both I Am Alive and Savage Moon are free. Finally on the Vita members get the brand new A Virus Named Tom and Shutshimi which is also free on PS4 since it is Cross-Buy. I personally look at this lineup and say there is no reason to be angry."

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TheGreatGamer3373d ago

It's an okay month if you look at it through a lens where you don't compare it to the month that the competition has lined up

EazyC3373d ago

Yes, much like how quality of life in North Korea is sublime as long as they never get to see what other countries have to offer.

Jmanzare3373d ago

I see what your saying but it's slightly exaggerated.

2pacalypsenow3373d ago

Except gamers have the freedom to choose and the majority chose PlayStation

Eonjay3373d ago

Microsoft is doing exactly what it should be doing right now. And even Sunset Overdrive is a well positioned counter to Ratchet an Clank, but the offering only highlights Insomniac's talent. A win win if you ask me.

mikeslemonade3373d ago

PS plus still did better for me this month. I already played Sunset OD. But I haven't played Zombi yet.

bf0007779663373d ago

new indie games >>old aaa games

sonarus3373d ago

I am all for the hate if it gets Sony to give us better games.

bouzebbal3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

1+year ago Sony was giving 2-3 AAA games every single month and the thing is that most of the time i already have the games anyway.

For me I think PS+ is good as it is, it allows me to try games i wasn't planning to buy, but it can always be better, especially because online play is not free of charge anymore.

If you are short on budget I understand you want more AAA games and Sony needs to think about that like they did not long ago.
I wish they go back to the old model so everyone is happy because i understand the frustration:
1 AAA
1 indie/mini
1 Vita/PSP
1 classic (PS1/PS2)
1 theme
1 avatar
1 game trial (60min)
-% on selected games

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yarbie10003373d ago

I think the Damage Control is Unwarranted

SpaceRanger3373d ago Show
Liqu1d3373d ago

So people aren't allowed to like these games?

TKCMuzzer3373d ago

Honestly, I don't compare it as I don't own an Xbox One. Also it doesn't really bother me as much as seems to be bothering all these others.
Gamers, we would all moan if Sony put PS+ prices up to offer us better games included monthly. We pay no more yet companies costs continue to rise. If as customers we don't want to pay extra we will undoubtedly be offered less, this is not a video game phenomenon, this happens in all industries.

Muzikguy3372d ago (Edited 3372d ago )

So many people don't seem to grasp this or understand how business works. These people looking for who can give us better "free stuff" is just sad. Go buy the games if you want them and stop complaining. As for me, I have more than enough to play plus a baby coming. Priorities. Maybe some of you need to get out more and enjoy life. There's more to it than video games

ServerBOT3373d ago

If you're starving and somebody
throw you a cracker,you gonna be like this:

"Goddamn, that's the best cracker
I ever ate in my life!
"That ain't no regular cracker, was it?
What was that, a Saltine?

NatFanBoyRestricted3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

For some reason I read this in a Chris Rock voice, too hilarious,funny bubble, you win

Nivekki3373d ago

@Macxb1

You should be reading it in an Eddie Murphy voice.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

kaizokuspy3373d ago

I used to like Eddie Murphy (see coming to america) but after his role as donkey in shrek, I don't think he will bounce back and be funny to me again as an actor. I'll always see donkey when I think of him. I wish he'd do another movie in the realm of coming to america.

NatFanBoyRestricted3372d ago

Really this site is overtaken and ran by some serious serious fanboys if I got disagrees just for my name. I guess ima have to change my name to something everyone hates

gamerz3372d ago (Edited 3372d ago )

Soon as you take one step in, ''You're not gonna believe this....''
Let me get my other foot in the $^$#) door!
Let me get something to eat! Let me get something to drink!
Let me take a s@&%!

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showtimefolks3373d ago

the hate on psn-plus is getting pretty crazy. i guess all the ps4's selling and more gamers than ever to sign up for psn-plus is what's holding sony back

do you believe for a second MS would offer any AAA if it was over 21 million behind? yes that's what i thought

not defending plus but sony really doesn't have any incentive to make available AAA games

remember this past holiday season when MS had the best exclusive lineup ever tag line yet ps4 won 3 out of the 4 holiday months and the one it lost was only by 30k

get with the program people. it's common sense business wise

SniperControl3373d ago

Finally, somebody with some sense on here.

Well said.

Lev19033373d ago

So if a console sells better it has a reason to give bad games. While PS PLus stood for one of the best services last gen, the people now have to accept it has gotten worse jsut because more people bought a PS4. Yeah that doesnt makes sense at all.

Ooh well mayb next gen when their sales are bad they will bring better games out on their console.

Lets hope guys!!!

FPS_D3TH3373d ago

Lev1903 ps plus for PS3 was because it wasn't the leading console. Now it is. What it's doing makes perfect sense to anyone with business sense.

Lev19033373d ago

@D3TH_D33LR PS plus on PS3 was great even when they sold more then 50 million units. Xbox 360 started GWG while they were ahead of sales at the time.

kaizokuspy3373d ago

I could care less about these free game comparisons. I don't buy a console, xbox or sony just for free games. Last gen I only played 360 and always paid to play online. Moved to ps4 this gen and sony has been adding features and actually giving away free games that I would never have bought or played otherwise. Example: if you owned an xbox one at launch, chances are you already own sunset overdrive. Why? Because that was one of the few great games xbox had when they had sparse choices. So many if not the majority probably already own it. They aren't really losing anything to give it away. Alright now let's look at sony. Dead star, free at games launch. That's pretty awesome and I really can't wait to try it in that respect. I really enjoyed rogue legacy, rocket league, and grim fandango, so to me ps plus has been worth it regardless. Zombi isn't really a game that I care to play but there are a lot of zombie fans out there who want it and not willing to pay for it. All in all its a good month. When did we expect brand new AAA titles for $5/month? Why would anyone buy a console and pay for online subscription just to hope a game they want will be free in a year or two? Idk, maybe I'm jaded, but if I really want a game, any game, I'm going to buy it. I'm not going to wait months or years just to see if it's given away for free. I'm ranting and I'm sorry, I'll stop :(

donthate3372d ago

If that is your standard, then enjoy your favorite console as is, because it is going to stay like that. I mean users like you ensure that.

Remember when Xbox 360 was way ahead, but MS introduced GwG anyhow? They didn't have too, but they did!

Smokeeye1233372d ago

PS3 has been getting quality games ever since PS+ launched. The argument that PS4 is too new is baseless. Theres bargain bin games AAA they could give out besides cruddy indies.

showtimefolks3372d ago

donthate

let me get this straight. ms didn't have to when sony were basically killing it with psn-plus? MS were forced to make it happen otherwise left behind

kaizokuspy

that's what i don't get. i mean people who bought consoles at launch or early on most likely bought these AAA games when they were released

i think sony is doing it right by offering games most would not otherwise have a chance to try or. even buy. but i think moving forward they should try to offer some AAA games than add a indie with it

one thing people just don't understand is that psn-plus came to ps3 deep into last gen so there was already a big catalog of backlog games available to offer. this gen is fairly new

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Blaze9293373d ago

the dislikes on the playstation youtube video speak for themselves.

saint_seya3372d ago

You could also say that the consoles sold by each company speak for themselves..
OT: I do think that Sony should be giving better games, since its been a long time from launch, i think they should start giving some AA games.

ocelot073372d ago (Edited 3372d ago )

I personally think the XB1 April line up is not all that great.

Wolf Among us very good game.

Dead Space 8 year old game but still a good game.

Saints Row 4 I didn't like it. Hated the direction that series went in.

Sunset Overdrive probably going to get burnt for this. But I thought was a weak game. Especially since it was made by Insomniac who brought us the fantastic Ratchet & Clank series and to a lesser extent the Resistant series.

It is a very good month for XB1 owners in my view. One of the better months in fact. Yes I think it is a better month than the PS+ offering. But not by much.

donthate3372d ago

Regardless if you already owned it, played it, or dislike it, the consensus is that those are quality AAA games that people have been asking for. This isn't the only month, the previous months games has been pretty dang good, and so this discontent with PS+ is just brewing over, because it has been going on since PS4 launch.

The excuse that PS4 just launched and don't have a good back catalog no longer holds, because the competition is able to do it.

Personally, I think what Sony did with PS+ on PS3 was quite innovative, and they pushed some really good quality games in the long past, so I hope they do it again.

ocelot073372d ago

I personally think Sony made a mistake launching PS+ on PS3. I see why they did it. They wanted to bring some money in but at the same time make PSN more attractive.

However by doing this. I think they have made the PS3 now PS4 owners a little spoilt. I know comments are not going to go down well with some people and I am sorry if the above comment has offended anyone. But that is my personal view.

Because of what Sony was pushing out on PS3. People now expect it on PS4 even though Sony are dominating the console market. I agree I would like to see a AA or AAA game every so often. Zombi in my view being a good start (even though I all ready own it).

But people need to look at it like this. If you pay £35 a year for PS+. That is less than £3 a month. What on earth do you expect for less than £3 a month? PSN is so much better than it was on PS3. Not only do you get a better PSN you get some games thrown in as well each month. If you own a Vita and PS3 as well you get even more games.

As for Xbox. You must remember. For 10+ years they charged people £35-£40 just for online play (a solid one at that). Only in the past 2-3 years they have started giving the players something back in return of that yearly sub other than a decent online service.

It makes sense for Microsoft to go all out if you will on better GWG games. As they want to attract more potential buyers to there console. As there lagging behind Sony and the PS4 by a very big margin and that is a a fact.

Anyhow as for the people who are not liking the PS+ selection of games. First of all VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET. Don't subscribe to the service if you are not impressed with it.

Secondly if you have a current subscription. Don't just voice your opinion on N4G am pretty sure Sony don't visit this website. What you need to do is: 1, Voice your opinion to Sony on twitter,facebook or what ever social media you can contact them by.

2, Each time a game is added to PS+ and you don't like it. Rate it 1 star out of 5 on the PSN store. This should show Sony that most of all PSN users don't like these games. This is something that is not happening enough. If you check the past PS+ games rating on the PSN store. Most have a decent user score. So there is obviously a good chunk of PSN users happy with the games there getting.

showtimefolks3372d ago

ocelot07

it's kind of sad how saints row 1 was good and saints row 2 was way better but than developers just went lazy and just created average games

it's like just cause series. the game gives you an open world with tools and that's all

not even a decent story
driving sucks
gun play is pre ps2 era

in gaming there is a huge double standard by journalists and by gamers

ocelot073372d ago

@showtimefolks

I agreed I loved the first 2 games. Saints Row 3 was ok. Then 4 just went so silly it put me right off the series. For the first 3 games I forgave the horrible card handling and gun play as the first 2 and some of 3 was fun to play.

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Pocketaces1113372d ago

I love it how you all complain like crazy but never stop to think hey I've gotten over $50 worth of games over the past year and only paid $50. I think everyone can agree that they got at least $50 worth of games they enjoyed regardless of the ones they did not enjoy or didn't take the time to try. even if you feel you only got $40 worth of games then you only paid $10 for online access. Stop feeling entitled and that you have a right to complain about something if you've at least got your moneys worth. Yes Microsoft is trying harder right now because they have less consoles out their. Other months PS has done better stop comparing them they both have pro's and con's enjoy gaming and just make sure you got your money's worth. If you feel you didn't stop paying money for it.

II__BONE__II3372d ago

@ sonarus #1.1.6

Or,.......Sony and MS too could just say "Ya know what,we been giving you free games to play every month but you seem to hate it so bad we will cancel this practice and you won't have to complain anymore."

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Thatguy-3103373d ago

It's solid. They have a lot of old AAA titles that they can easily offer though.

Nitrowolf23373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

And then you have people complaining that they already own those titles there is no winning with people that complain.

Now I'm not saying I wouldn't be happy with a huge old triple aaa title going free, but hey I'll take what they give me, because once in a while those "indie" games people complain. All about are actually amazing (rocket league). Thougg that goes without saying the quality has dropped

Team_Litt3373d ago

Yeah nobody really complains about that hey. Every time a 360 game that I owned came to GwG I'd just sell it and be glad I don't have to swap discs whenever I wanted to play it.

I've not once seen anybody use that complaint against AAA games except for the Sony crowd doing damage control.

Omeganex99993373d ago

And magically everyone appears to miss this point. I don't want frigging Killzone or Infamous, I don't think Sony should give them for free, especially if you can find them for 10$!

Kribwalker3373d ago

Where you been Lewis?? I miss team Litt litting people up ;D

TKCMuzzer3373d ago

If only business was as simple as people make it out to be.

XanderZane3373d ago

They why haven't they. I'll gladly take TLOU Remastered, Tear Away Unfolded, DriveClub, MLB 15, Knack, Sniper 3, The Order 1886 and several other none Indie titles that are at least decent. Sony isn't even trying anymore. Because they have about 40 million PS4 sold, they think they don't need to cater to their userbase anymore.

admiralvic3373d ago

I feel like the author doesn't actually understand the complaints, which is an issue, especially in an article like this.

Look, a big part of the issue people have is that PlayStation Plus has been offering lower quality games than before. April 2015 gave us Dishonored and Killzone Mercenary, April 2014 had Velocity Ultra and Batman: Arkham City and April 2013 introduced Demon's Souls, and Malicious, where as April 2016, well, you spend much of the article discussing how Zombi is technically a AAA title, so we should be happy we got our wishes. Thats a massive downgrade from previous years where people would be like "awesome Batman" or "I've always wanted to try Demon's Souls." Worse yet, I'm not even cherry picking. I literally just looked at the offerings of past years and found multiple awesome titles, because thats how Plus was and what people remember. A service that offered a lot of really cool and easily recognizable games. Even if you think Velocity and Malicious are garbage, very few will agree that Demon's Souls/Batman/Killzone Mercenary were bad additions.

In addition to that, you spend a fair bit of time criticizing Sherlock Holmes and Thief, but you do realize these were both Plus games? This also clues into some of the negativity people have. Sony gave the last-gen versions of each, where as M$ at least gave the current-gen. Obviously neither is exactly spectacular, but if I had my choice of PS3 or 4, I would choose 4 and I think a lot of people are in agreement here.

These are the major issues people have. One of a program that is declining in quality, with some people touching on how the other is improving, but its mostly the decline that people remember. We've quickly gone from the days where we would get multiple awesome titles (May 2013 gave Blazblue CSE and Sleeping Dogs, June 2013 gave Deus EX, Saints Row the Third, Zero Escape, Uncharted 3, Xcom and LittleBigPlanet Karting and July 2013 had Battlefield ) to just a lot of okay titles (Helldivers, Persona 4 Arena, and Dragon Age Origins).

TL;DR The issue isn't this month or how people think so little of Zombi that you need to spend half an article explaining how it's a AAA title, but rather Plus has been going down hill and more people are becoming vocal about it.

hells_supernova3373d ago

I could not agree more I let mine lapse over a year ago and have not renewed, I just have not been compelled to. Although I think Helldivers is a fantastic game and worth as much as some AAA. Back in the day I subbed to psplus for the games my ps3 is loaded with them but now days I cannot justify it just to play online.

MrBeatdown3373d ago

I think he understands what's going on perfectly fine. Standards are all over the place.

Thief and Sherlock were on PS+ over a year ago, and despite the only difference being current-gen vs last-gen (and a year's difference), they're used as examples when making extreme claims about how good or bad PS+ and GWG are. We aren't seeing "PS+ ain't bad, but it could be better". We're seeing "Still trash. GWG is so much better than ps+." And that's a comment pulled straight from N4G with 88 agrees.

And when we do get a AAA game like Zombi, there's some need to justify why it "doesn't count" even though you'd never see someone try to write off Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition just because it's a port.

Number_93373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

Tomb Raider DE vs Zombi though...you pick the weirdest comparisons to contest. I mean you'd never see someone say TR doesn't count because it's not just a port, it's a fantastic game on top of that! Award winning even! I mean come on man!

PS+ is bad today compared to...PS+. You don't even have to get GWG involved. PS+ was exemplary during PS3 days. Now it's a shadow of itself despite the love being spread over 3 consoles.

I mean thus is a service that once offered Red Dead Redemption and Uncharted 3, now people are clamouring to defend games like Zombi and Nom nom galaxy. I mean yikes!

As for GWG, with Tomb Raider DE, AC Black Flag, Rayman Legends, Sunset Overdrive and BC games, Xbox One has certainly not suffered over the years as far as quality free games are concerned.

But you go on pretending games like Thief are all we've been getting Mr Beatdown.

MrBeatdown3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

A port is a port. You can't exclude Zombi because it's a port from another system, yet give Tomb Raider a pass because it's a port of a better game.

Make the argument that Zombi just isn't as good if you must, but don't pretend you want retail games that aren't ports if you're going to just make that contingent on quality anyway. Don't drum up technicalities that only matter half the time.

And I'm not arguing that Plus wasn't better. It was a lot better years ago and that's obvious. But I also never expected to keep getting multiple AAA games each month like we were around the time PS4 released. Plus has been a lot worse too. I sure as hell don't have a problem getting the six games we got this month, when we used to get a small indie game, a PS1 game, and a couple PS Minis.

So much of the criticism nowadays seems to be more in relation to GWG, which just like Plus, is a far cry from what Plus once was. That's what the article focuses on...

"Many people are comparing the free PlayStation Plus game to the Games With Gold over on the Xbox One."

After all, I don't see people bitching at Microsoft because it's not as good as Plus was at it's best. If this really was about getting better games, and not just some idiotic comparison, nobody would be talking up getting an eight year old game like Dead Space 1 like it's a great thing. There's way better options than a game that old.

And no, I didn't "pretend" games like Thief are all GWG has got. I mentioned them because they are two of the biggest recent games. I didn't realize you were expecting an all-inclusive list from the past year in my comment.

At the end of the day, the article was about Plus, and the comparisons to GWG, and I responded to someone who said the author doesn't understand the complaints.

Like I said in my first comment...

"We're seeing 'Still trash. GWG is so much better than ps+.' And that's a comment pulled straight from N4G with 88 agrees."

When 89 people believe PS+ is "trash" and GWG "is so much better," it sounds like the author understands the complaints just fine.

OB1Biker3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

I agree. Even it's true PS+ hasn't been as top as it was a few years ago. Still I've seen people complaining every single month even saying it's trash when rocket league or helldivers came up.
I do wish there was black flag but TR was on PS+ ages ago and a remastered version of the same game already on PS+ offered later on I'm sorry but I wouldn't call that a good offering

Number_93373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

He's just an apologist with a platform.

FallenAngel19843373d ago

PS+'s April 2016 sure does pale in comparison to past Aprils

Rimeskeem3373d ago

I think we should wait for Dead Star to and see what happens. Remember August and how people thought it was a crap month then played Rocket League and it was known as one of the best months of PS+ on PS4. I hope Dead Star does that as well.

FallenAngel19843373d ago

We can already see that the overall quality of PS+ April 2016 lineup is down from the April of years past.

- PS+ of April 2013 featured Demon's Souls and Malicious in NA and Okami HD in EU.

- PS+ of April 2014 featured Batman: Arkham City in NA and Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Pro Evolution Soccer 2014, Puppeteer, Payday 2, and MotoGP 13 in EU.

- PS+ of April 2015 featured Dishonored and Killzone: Mercenary everywhere

Dead Star may turn out to be a fine game, but that still doesn't change the fact that PS's overall lineup this April pales in comparison to prior years in April.

Davi1233373d ago

I'm like you with food.
I haven't tried yet, but i'm saying already that i don't like.

Aloy-Boyfriend3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

People are still gonna complain when Sony gives the AAA either they already own or they don't like.

I'll keep having fun watching gAAAmers here supposedly cancelling their subs over free games

Death3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

The subscription is for the games. The games aren't "free" like you keep saying. You pay the annual or monthly fee and in return you get access to a selection of games each month. You can access these games as long as you maintain your subscription. The PSN wiki covers this pretty well if you are still confused. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

I didn't cancel my PS+ subscription. I simply didn't re-subscribe since I can't personally justify the $50 for the games that are offered. I'm not a big fan of most indie games. I don't use my PS4 for multiplatform or online games so it wasn't a big deal. I won't argue if you see the value in the service since value is different to every one. At the same time you should be able to understand or at least respect the opinions others have over it.

TFJWM3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

Why would you pay $50 for it when you can get it every other month for $40, 4x a year at $35 and about once a year for $30...

For the cost of a slice of pizza a month I have no complaints.

Christopher3373d ago

Just FYI, calling them free is just how many people refer to them now. I've seen people call GWG and PS+ games 'free' a ton and I don't think we need to jump down someone's throat when they say it anymore. It's just how people represent the games on both services now. You pay for MP, you get some other stuff for free.

Though, I do agree with you on principle, but ignoring everything just to hammer that home when it's become the norm just makes you look pedantic and an attempt to complain about something.

TKCMuzzer3373d ago

The PS+ plus sub is more to do with covering security costs and maintenance cost for the PSN than games. Costs have gone up in these areas yet the sub is the same price as it was years ago. Something has to give if we don't want to pay any more money.

Goldby3373d ago

you pay for the online service, not the games. if you want to play online on ps4, u need the service, its not if you want to play these games on ps4 you need the service.....

SO. IT. IS. FREE. GAMES.

freshslicepizza3373d ago

it is not free games, they are being subsidized by the membership fees. the illusion is they are free but that is not the reality.

MrBeatdown3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

Indeed.

At $49.99 for a year, each game costs us $0.70.

They ain't free. They're under $1 each. Huge difference. Thanks for pointing it out.

xPhearR3dx3373d ago

@Goldby

Who are you to decide what specific features of said service someone is paying for? If someone doesn't like playing online games but has PS+, they didn't pay for online services, they paid for the games they get each month.

That being said, April's lineup is certainly not solid. We're getting yet another indie and a Wii U launch title that had potential to be great, but ended up being terrible due to the horrid combat.

Sony could do better, but because the PS4 as a system is so far ahead of Xbox they don't feel the need to push for those better games each month. Because even without them the PS4 is still ahead. Which is a shame because competition is what drives companies to do better, not settle for the basic.

Rookie_Monster3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

@goldby,

Last gen, PS3 has more AAA titles releaed for PS Plus members and online was free.

Fast forward to now, many thought the money for subscription service will result in even better monthly subscription titles that will include more AAA titles and more games on dedicated servers. We also expect Sony to release the majority of their exclusives to include MP online mode. Unfortunately, last year, their big releases, The Order 1886, Until Dawn, and Uncharted Collection all don't have MP mode.

So where is all that money going that they are receiving from renewed and new subscribers if it ain't going to improving the servers and releasing games that takes advantage of paying to play online?

I'll tell you where it went. It went to capturing marketing deals from Destiny to COD to Battlefront and whatever money left were used to pay for indies and pocket the rest themselves.

The competiton not only offers better games ATM for their subscribers but their games include using fast dedicated servers and bringing new tech like Live Cloud compute that is giving those fanbase something to cheer about. Sony has so far dropped the ball and disappointed many of their fanbase.

This is what people are having issue with and diehard Sony supporters are defending them for the wrong reasons. Smh

NatFanBoyRestricted3373d ago

Everyone above me the commented after EasyC, are some of you saying that online service is advertised as pay a monthly fee for a selection of games and get multiplayer access? I understand it's not really free games, as someone commented that a portion of monthly fee kind of goes towards the selection of monthly games, but let's say you buy a online only game like Destiny, on the game case it would say requires ps+ or xbl for online access, which the services are mainly known for. Now wouldn't it be ok to say these monthly games are free especially if you play online allot, because of how small of an amount from a monthly fee would cover thode games? Unless the monthly games we're what got your attention, and your more of a single player gamer now looking at what games your getting for your subscription, I could see why you'd feel like the online service isn't worth it cause the multiplayer side you don't really use. Am I right? Honest question, is pretty late my time and I hope my question makes sense.

Taero3373d ago

And it's even less than the 70c mentioned earlier as part of that fee has to go to marketing, servers, budgets etc. Ballpark 50c a game, how can people even realistically complain that what they get each month isn't worth $3...just...what?

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gamer78043373d ago

just vote with your wallets, if you like the selection, buy ps+ and download the games, if you don't, hold off a month or so, then subscribe again and buy your games. Only this way do publishers and platform holder's understand what games their customers really want.

Goldby3373d ago

thats a really bad idea as you end up paying more for online service that isnt always there. At 4$ a month for online, i cant complain. i also dont complain about the bonus games you get with that 4$/month online fee

gamer78043373d ago

@Goldby That's a fair point. It could end up being more expensive depending on how many months out of the year you buy. Myself I don't mind buying 1/3 months or so depending on the games.

freshslicepizza3373d ago

most people won't cancel and the reason is simple. you need it to play people online on the ps4. we all know how popular and prevalent online games are now too.

remove online multiplayer from psn plus on the ps4 and watch as many will no longer be plus members. that my good friend is called reality. the same thing would occur on xbox live gold.

Picnic3372d ago (Edited 3372d ago )

You don't need PS Plus to play online multiplayer betas, when they existed eg Uncharted 4.

JamesBroski3373d ago

I used to be a PS+ subscribers back in the days when they released good titles on PS3 and Vita. Now, on every platform, all they release is games that have no value. It's pretty obvious that they don't care about free games anymore since the main reason for people to own a PS+ account is PS4 online. That's why I'm boycotting it.

I mean, people can whine all they want, but if they keep renewing their subscription, don't expect things to change.

Aloy-Boyfriend3373d ago

PS+ didn't start giving games until later. The service was only for premiun features like discounts, trials, goodies, small games, and such

_-EDMIX-_3373d ago

" back in the days when they released good titles on PS3 and Vita" Well....it released when we already had an established library of games on PS3 in the first place.

Spectre_StatusN73373d ago

"gAAAmer"

I like that. Will never understand the obsession people have with wanting old AAA games instead of new indie games that will be easily overlooked. If I want a old AAA game I somehow missed out on I'd just buy it.

Number_93373d ago

Because old is bad right? And a new game will always be good. Got it! Let's not play Sunset Overdrive because it's old, no let rock out on some of that there new Hardware Rivals! Woohoo!

_-EDMIX-_3373d ago

Regardless of "AAA" or "indie" I just want good games.

Many good games come from many different places...

_-EDMIX-_3373d ago

Agreed. How I see PSN Plus for me, if I got 3 games I like during the year across PS3, PS4 or PSVita.....I just don't care lol

Its a good deal for the service and I like playing something new that I otherwise likely was not going to buy.

Again...if over the year I get 3 games that I like either from PS3, PS4 or PSVita...I actually don't care. The year I get none that I like across all those platforms, is the year that I get mad enough to say something, other then that, I enjoy getting the discounts and random free games. Many times, 2 games might equal the entire year of the service of titles I might have purchased.

lalagideon3372d ago

@Christopher

I get what you're saying as far as the term "free" being used more as convention than in the literal sense (everyone knows they're not actually free). But, many people are using the term "free" as part of an argument suggesting that those complaining about the game selection have no justification because the games come at no cost. But, it IS a legitimate gripe because we ARE paying for the "free" games.

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio21h ago(Edited 20h ago)

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted18h ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast20h ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay20h ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted18h ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl348517h ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK18h ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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SEGA has accidentally revealed 6 years of sales data for some games

SEGA has made a mistake on one of their PDF forms which has inadvertently disclosed full sales numbers of some of the company’s key software releases.

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Phoenix0293d ago

Don't forget they've put a lot of these on gamepass and ps plus so you can add that money to it. Good to see Sega going strong

shinXseijuro3d ago

Happy for sega ! I was expecting some kind of showing of their newer games at game fest but maybe they’re keeling it for TGS? Crazy taxi and jet set needs a trailer or something soon !!!

Runechaz2d ago

Release Phantasy Star 5, Shining force 4 or Skies of Arcadia 2 and look at the number after.

jjb19812d ago

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaay-ga. Good times.

The Wood2d ago

whoops....there's actually a SEGA m2 now.........;)

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Pearl Abyss Issues Statement On CCP Games Sales Rumors

Amid rumors it was looking to sell Eve Online developer CCP Games, Pearl Abyss has given a statement to Insider Gaming.

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