Original Snake Voice David Hayter Has No Love For Hideo Kojima

“I was kinda hoping that Konami would take me back now that he was gone.” In a special edition of the Game Informer podcast, actor and screenwriter David Hayter talked about his “humiliating” replacement as Metal Gear’s leading man and how he really feels about the series creator who wanted him gone.

[Kalebninja]

Dude is the definition of butthurt.

[letsgopal]

It's just the way Kotaku written this article. He's not butthurt towards kojima whatsoever

[Deadpooled]

Story quality - WTF

Like this website - NO

No idea how or why the rating of kotaku on N4G is n/a. They are the gaming equivalent of the Sun... Um actually I'll give that to Rashid Sayed's Gamingbolt. Kotaku are the gaming equivalent of the Daily Star.

[UltraNova]

He shouldn't be Snake and Big Boss are two different people, its only natural Big Boss was voiced by someone else. He's upset because it was a much higher caliber actor that he'll ever be who got the job.

David did his part and when it was time to move on from MGS he simply refused to accept it.

[TheFirstClassic]

To be fair, if you worked with someone for nearly 20 years, doing some of the most highly praised voice work in your field, and then got layed off and replaced with someone else with no warning and no aknowledgement that you ever held that role, wouldn't you be butthurt too?

[DDMNeo]

Voice acting is a pretty harsh line of work, as is show business in general. There's also two points you need to understand. First is Hayter was not his first choice. I'm pretty sure from the get go he wan't Kurt Russell. Second is that Big Boss totally should have had a different voice than Solid Snake. I think casting Kiefer Sutherland was his last shot to get a real action star in the series that's based on so many classic action films. I also remember hearing that Hayter wasn't super excited about doing Peace Walker after nearly killing his voice in MGS4. I also think it also kinda helped with MGSV's twist.

I do think Hayter has a right to feel personally upset, but he seems like a real professional. Which is why he never really said anything bad about anyone. I don't know what the whole situation was all these years, so I won't judge too much. I still like Kojima, but I understand he's not perfect. Hell the whole "you will feel ashamed of your words and deeds" hing was pretty dumb, especially since Quiet totally was just fan service. Something I'd be more ok with if it wasn't a few gross things done with her. Though I think questioning and understanding something you love gives you a better understanding, and gets you a better product than just praising something for what it is. That being said I'm excited to see what Kojima has coming next, and I hope Hayter's career continues to be good for him.

[Imalwaysright]

He got paid for his voice acting and was credited for his work in the end credits. He isn't owned anything else after that. Why should he be warned that someone else was hired to voice Snake in MGS5? Why should Kojima or Konami have to report to him?

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't understand...

He worked for Kojima not the other way around, it's Kojimas game he is free to add on and take off whomever he pleases it's his work.

Solid Snake is not big boss it should have never been voiced by the same person in the first place Kojima made that mistake with Metal Gear Solid 3 even letting him stay on.

I prefer Metal Gear Solid 4 and 5 having big boss voiced by a different person because big boss is a different person than Solid Snake.

Are we all up in arms that liquid is invoice by him to? Are we all upset that Solidous isn't voiced by him to?

I mean at some point that dude really needs to let it go and stop answering questions regarding this game because at this point his feelings being hurt over being passed over for mgs5 are just making him look and sound like an idiot, move on and continue with your damn life you honestly can't tell me this is destroying you...

I would say over the past two years or so since he's been talking about this I've lost more and more respect for him.

He does not own the IP, he doesn't own the company, he did not create metal gear solid as to why he feels he was owed something is beyond me.

the director direct, the actor acts.

[GhostTurtle]

@Imalwaysright

It's called respect...

[rainslacker]

He wasn't layer off. Actors are contract employees and unless their contract stipulates it, he had no reason to expect to be able to work with them again.

He was paid and credited for his work, and nowhere was it denied he did the work. Kojima wanted to go a different route, and since its his game and not Hayter's he did.

I can't really recall many respectable actors ever obsessing over being replaced, nor making comments about unprofessional attitudes of the content creators over not being asked back to reprise a role

[TheTwelve]

It's business, but I definitely feel for him.

[Greyfoxdbz]

Not to mention that he got layed off for an actor who barely says anything throughout the game. He really didn't need to change the voice actor at all really

[DangerousDAN]

Not only that, but he was replaced by someone that barely had any lines in the game and surely got paid way more for it. I loved how Sutherland sounded as Snake, but he barely spoke. This all just seemed like a slap in the face to Hayter.

[IceKoldKilla]

Read the article. Kotaku. Enough said.

[Tainted Gene]

This^

[N4GGuy24]

Wow look at these despicable hypocrites. All these years praising David Hayter and just for one thing turn against him and throw insults. Such basement dwellers. Stop making Hideo Kojima as some saint. David Hayter not even being considered is a stab in the back even to the fans. The replacement was medicore and not memorable anyways.

These hate comments are not mgs fans just 12yr olds.

[DDMNeo]

I was more ok with it, but I agree. Kojima is no saint, but he's human. Never let your fandom blind you, but understand it's ok not to put something/someone on a petiole.

[Seraphim]

I'm no MGS guru but it seems to me Hayter has no case. *Spoiler* There is a replacement Snake in MGSV. The real Snake only makes a brief appearance. Considering how the game plays out it makes perfect sense to me why Hayter was not voicing Snake in MGSV

[Dee_91]

yea, im not sure you know what that word hypocrite means.. Unless you're able to go through their history and show where they praised David, you're full of crap.
I'm also not sure if you actually read or skimmed the comments that you are replying to. Because they seem to be pretty indecisive in general to me..

i'm sorry i know you're just talking out the side of your neck and it felt right to make that comment, I do it sometimes too, but your comment is really baseless friend..

[sanosukegtr123]

If making a metal gear solid game with snake. Should keep the same voice actor. Like mario u cant change his voice.

[DDMNeo]

Well technically the two main Snakes are different people, so I think it would have been more reasonable to have them have different voice actors. If Big Boss had someone else voicing him in MGS3 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[kraenk12]

I agree. Especially if it's someone with such a characteristic voice. Just imagine if Geralt's voice would change all of a sudden!

[_-EDMIX-_]

The character they're referring to is not snake.....

DOWNeo- 100% correct I'm sorry but even as a massive Metal Gear Solid fan he should have never been voicing big boss in that game in the first place.

Big Boss is not Solid Snake

[divinealpha]

Every time you write you just talk out your ass and by the disagrees people are noticing it.

[Kalebninja]

How am I talking out of my ass dipshit? Hayter can't get over that he was recast for a single game and now he's glad Kojima's gone because of that? GTFO, he was replaced with a VA with much more talent than himself and now he's upset at the guy who gave him that big role in the first place. And he's clearly lucky he got to play the role as long as he did since Kojima clearly wanted to replace him before.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I gotta agree with kale on this one Sutherland is a stronger actor.

I actually would have preferred if from Metal Gear Solid 3 forward big boss was merely voiced by someone else.

I actually never wanted David Hayter voicing big boss in the first place.

Big Boss is not Solid Snake people

[-Foxtrot]

The guy has been Solid Snake for a long time, well over 15 years and yet despite the love for him and the character he plays Kojima wanted to be a douche and try to find a connection to Hollywood, something he's so desperate to have.

Not even a phone call to say "Yeah we don't want you back we're going with someone else", maybe a gift basket or card to say thanks for the hard work. I don't know something show that he gave a crap and thanked him for helping bring Solid Snake to life.

Kojima is not Mr Perfect people think he is, he's a good developer but the way he's went on here he comes off like an ass. Someone who would throw his friend away if it means climbing the social/career ladder.

[2cents]

I agree,
Too much blind admiration for this developer IMO.

[-Foxtrot]

I do know, I never said I did

It's not the point, even the Medic (real Snake) was still voiced by Sutherland

The Japanese voice actor who has been Solid Snake and Big Boss since the very first game also voiced these characters in MGSV

Jesus Christ man...

Get your facts right before you call other people and blindly defend our "holy saint" Kojima

[Dark_king]

Kind of glad Kojima didn't bring him back it was killing Hayter to get the voice he used.Was smoking tons of cigs a day to get his voice like that(he said this himself).If you got to kill yourself for a voice you probably shouldn't be doing it.An as an employer I wouldn't hire a guy thats killing himself for a voice legal issue would come up at some point.

[medman]

With all due respect to David Hayter, neither the company nor Kojima owed him the role. If they chose to go in another direction, that is their right to do so. I don't think most fans particularly cared for the decision, but it's a business, and stuff like this happens in every industry.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed I'm glad I'm not the only person that sees this.

I'm not sure why people believe this man is owed anything to a game he did not create and doesn't own.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Yet, Kojima is the reason anyone knows who he is. Hayter should kiss Kojima's bootstraps for making his career, for making MGS.

[IamTylerDurden1]

David Hayter is honestly not a great VA, he became synonymous with Snake and gained notoriety. In reality, he's rather cheesy. Enough David Hayter already.

[Psychonaut]

David is a dink that he didn't see where Kojima was heading. He replaced the voice of Big Boss with Keifer because he wanted to end it come full circle with Solid Snake who David would of voiced, and Big Boss who Sutherland was going to voice, and they were going to have a battle. But Konami went and messed that all up. I will never wrap my mind around that fact, that David could not put those two and two together. -Dink-

[TheFirstClassic]

There is no real proof that david was ever going to return as solid snake, and if he was david would probably have been informed of that, instead of being silently layed off from a role he held for almost 20 years.

[_-EDMIX-_]

He wasn't laid off he never worked for the company he was contracted by the company they merely didn't renew a contract for another game that's it. do you think when a movie goes with another actor they laid off the previous role? Lol

The studio doesn't own those people they merely contract them, they still have to audition, they still have to be picked for the part. I'm sorry but unless there's a contract out there that states the part is guaranteed and already written and signed no work is guaranteed for anyone in a contracted business.

I think many on this site legit need to learn how gaming in business in general is conducted as many have this strange idea that these companies just have tons of people working for them for life....

MOST of gaming is contracted even the most veteran well-known voice actors are contracted per game they're not guaranteed work. They do not only work for one company, look up any voice actor and you'll realize just how many other companies they've worked for in their lives.

[TheFirstClassic]

I'm not knocking kojima for switching voice actors, its well within his right to do that. But I think when you hold a role for two decades, you can expect some sort of notification that they won't need you for the role anymore, as a gesture of respect. At the very least, thats mostly what Hayter complained about when it happened. Admittedly I don't know much about the VA industry but that's just what I would have expected. I can accept I might be wrong though.

The only real thing that irks me about casting Sutherland is that after all this talk about having a big name actor, he barely had any lines compared to past snakes.

[Psychonaut]

Hideo said he wanted Metal Gear/Metal Gear Solid to come full circle. Which would be Solid Snakes first mission where he confronts big boss. (the would be last game in the series would be a remake of his first game.) of course hayder would be back to voice snake. But there also needed to difference in voice actors. unless boys wanted hayter to seriously plays Solid Snake AND Big Boss. seriously, that's pure stupidity.

[-Foxtrot]

If that's the case why is it the Japanese voice actor for Big Boss/Snake are still the same in MGSV

...huh?

[Imalwaysright]

Maybe because the japanese voice actor is the real voice of Snake for Kojima, him being japanese and all. Sounds stupid but that's what I read countless times here about Hayter: "he is the real Snake"

[kraenk12]

They didn't even inform Hayter.

Also would HAVE damnit!

[_-EDMIX-_]

Metal Gear Solid 5 is easily over 60 hours long I'm sorry but there is no evidence that mgs5 was ever going to end with big boss facing Solid Snake.

You're basically assuming Metal Gear Solid 5 was supposed to be two games because he faces big boss at the end of metal gear.

Sooooo how long really where you expecting this entire game to really really be? Lol

[Psychonaut]

No, that's what the creator of series said. He wanted Metal Gear to end after GOTP. but Konami said no. So Kojima was going to write the story to a close ending hich would be solid snakes first mission. his own words

[TheFirstClassic]

It seems pretty obvious to me that there would have been a new VA for solid. He would not have the jap VA do both roles either.

[Deathdeliverer]

Who would have thought that all this time Hayter was a crybaby? The voice of one of gaming a badasses is a whiner. I hope T.C Carson isn't crying a river somewhere. It would be too much to handle.

[Kaneki-Ken]

Who would have thought that all this time Deathdeliver was a Hater? The voice of a gamer who is not even a badass is hating. I hope you don't piss off T.C Carson because he destroy all Greek Gods, along with the earth when they were hating on him so hard.

[Horofil]

So now we should hate David because he wants to work with Konami in order to voice character?

[freshslicepizza]

seems to be the pattern. people can't let go of loyalty and that loyalty resides in kojima. i can see konami getting this guy back and making a new mgs game. now watch as so many will be resistant to even being open minded about the game and will downplay it if it gets announced.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Oh David, grow up man.

[1nsomniac]

You Kojima fans are so fickle & odd. I remember David Hayter was like the second coming of Christ to you guys. Now all of a sudden something bad is said about your OG Kojima himself. Then all of a sudden you turn into teenage girls on the hunt wanting blood.

You're genuinely quite a creepy lot.

You're the only guys ever interested in this David Hayter fella in this first place now you're the only people hating him for wanting his old job back that you lot kicked up such a fuss about him loosing in the first place.

[KurtRussell]

Yep.

[demonddel]

You noticed that to huh

[_-EDMIX-_]

He does contracted Voice work look up his work history he never worked for Konami Konami merely contracted him....

I also don't know what you mean by "you guys" stop generalizing all fans of this game unless you know somebody that specifically stated something about him and now it's saying otherwise.

Also liking someone as a voice actor doesn't necessarily mean you agree with their character and choices they make I'm sorry but even as a fan of his work on the previous Metal Gear Solid games I don't agree with his actions about going with this.

you're not guaranteed to work, you work contract by contract, he fully understands he's not getting guaranteed work , he does not again work for Konami look at his work history they pay him through contract they don't hire him exclusively just to do this game.

I urge you guys to read what contract work actually is.

You think it's strange that they're fans of Kojima? Well I think it's strange that you honestly thought anyone had this ode to Love David Hayter regardless of the dumb actions he did. I still like him as a voice actor but I lost respect for him as a person for legit continuing on this banter on work he was never guaranteed in the first place.

he should even be thankful that they handed him the contract for Metal Gear Solid 3 and peace Walker games by the way he should have never even been voicing considering who Big Boss actually is.

[1nsomniac]

... So you think people don't know what contract work is???

The answers pretty self contained in the title lol. Not sure what that has to do with absolutely anything anyone is talking about though...

That answer itself seems to put you fairly safely into the category we are speaking of.

[Kaneki-Ken]

When Akio õtsura voice all Snake and still voice them till today. No one bats an eye. But when David Hayter voice all the Snake and want to continue to voice all of them. Everybody loses their minds.

[Pazto]

So True.
I used to get killed every time I tried to say something negative (but in a polite way, and with valid arguments) about Kojima. He is indeed a good game designer, but he is so overrated, he messed up lot of things during his career, and he always tries to get all the credits for the games he worked for, like a spoiled kid, he is so full of himself, when in the gaming industry there are dozen of designer way better than him, and most of gamer dont even know em. Kojima Fans acted like brainwashed blind zombies all the time, treating him like a god, but finally it looks like things are changing, and day after day more and more person start to see the truth about him.
Hayter, did a lot for MGS saga, truly a lot, probably more than 99% of dubbers out there, and he deserve respect for it.

[Kreisen]

Some dont seem to understand that becouse his biggest work is MGS every time he does an interview they ask him questions about that.
Hayter did ALOT for Metal Gear. Hell he gave away a majority of his pay to bring back some of the original actors for the Gamecube remake, he also almost destroyed his voice just so he could sound more rough in MGS 4. Meanwhile Kojima treated him like a tool.
Frankly, i dislike Kojima, as a huge fan of MGS i would often times read up on him and the more you do the more you realise how the best things about MGS/ZOE didnt even come from him. But afcourse he gets all the credit.

[MWH]

"as a huge fan of MGS i would often times read up on him and the more you do the more you realise how the best things about MGS/ZOE didnt even come from him. But afcourse he gets all the credit"

spot on.

Kojima became a tired trend, the fuel of the self-entitled and the average fanboy if you will. I appreciate his work but he would've never shined by himself. he was in the right team at a good time that gave birth to couple classics (MGS1/ZOE2) and less than a handful of relatively good games.

[Unborkirkster]

Yoji Shinkawa says hi. The man is just as influential to the Metal Gear verse as Kojima.

The more information we get on Kojima since the whole Konami thing, the more it seems that it wasn't just Konmai at fault.

[NarooN]

Exactly. You'd find out about such things as other writers being the ones who kept Kojima's whacked-out nonsensical writing in-check for the most part, or at least as best as they could. MGS5 itself is clear evidence of him being a hack, as if MGS4's ridiculous plot wasn't. That whole game was literally just hand-waving every pre-existing plot thread with "nanomachines". Complete crap.

[The7Reaper]

So everyone loves David and misses him when he wasnt big boss he says this and people hate him? Okay you don't like him you tools just like to suck off Kojima like he's some god (ps he isn't) I look forward to the disagrees :)

[TwoForce]

Well, I agree. But you can't denied that Kojima and David Hayter relationship have gone down hill since. Even I remember that David Hayter have his own manner problems. That's cause Kojima somehow found him "uncomfortable". But we never know. And other hand, Konami treated their employees like s***. That made Kojima and his team left the company. Look, people side other for some reasons. One side is David Hayter who has right reason to complain about his role been replaced by his trusted friend and other side is Kojima who has right reason to left the company for treating him and his team unfair. There are no happy ending whatsoever. It's just that we have to accept and move on. Even we don't like the way that upset us, but we have go with it.

[The_Sage]

That's going to effect your bubbles. Pop pop pop.

[Tedakin]

What did Hayter do to lose the role in the first place?

[Hold_It]

He was an actor people actually cared about. Kiefer on the other hand hasn't been relevant since 24.

[pandaboy]

His only crime was not being a hollywood name. But that's what happens when you have a fickle arrogant boss who thinks hiring a hollywood name then giving him no lines anyway is a ground-breaking concept.

[-Foxtrot]

It's like Kojima thought getting a Hollywood actor would give him a speedial to Hollywood it's self.

Movies, red carpet premiers, award shows etc

He's been known to talk about how he loves Western films.

I mean if Del Torro wasn't a Hollywood guy but more of a Indie film maker Kojima wouldn't have gave him the time of day.

[KOIMOJO]

I think Kojima is in love with American action stars and he wanted to meld what he does with a semi-iconic actor. I love everything Kojima makes but his humility is blinded by his ego.

It's a shame that most great minds have this issue.

[KurtRussell]

Yea, and Kojima doesn't understand American action stars are not into ladyboys.

[Pullmywaffle]

He wasn't a hollywood guy. You see, kojima desperately wants to be a "hollywood director" so he figures if he surrounds himself with enough b-list talent, maybe some of it will rub off and he'll get his big break.

[skulz7]

I love hayter but people who've played the game must realise why hayter wasn't the voice actor for mgs 5.

Saying that I wish snake talked more in mgs 5 and there was more story to complement the awesome gameplay.

[FullmetalRoyale]

No spoilers, but frankly there was still room for Hayter with what you said in mind. To me it would have been better if Hatter HAD been there.
But what's done is done, right?
It's best if we all try to move on.

[Dirtnapstor]

Right on. It would be like having the same voice actor using the same voice for multiple characters.

[cyberwaffles]

lol Seth Mcfarlane does the voices with half the cast in Family Guy. then again i'm not a fan of the show.

[Dirtnapstor]

@cyber
So multiple characters on the show sound like carbon copies of the same person?

[cyberwaffles]

Yes, well only a few of them.

The doctor and Lois's dad sound exactly the same. Even Stan from American Dad sound the same. If you want to be anal then Peter, Roger and Ted sound very similar as well.

[Gardenia]

Kojima uses famous actor because he wants to be recognized by more than the gaming community. He is losing his originality and creativity by trying to be on the Hollywood level

There was no need for David Hayter because Snake wasn't actually the real Snake. But in MGSV, which was the last MGS, and not even playing as Snake and see the beginning of Outer Heaven, is a real disappointment. Kojima lost it long ago

[BVFTW]

In the Hayter vs Kojima situation I side with Hayter, the guy always showed his passion for the role (even when sometimes he over delivered) and if it wasn't for him, Kojima would have switched the actors every time, he didn't showed any respect for the american voice actors work (Hayter even took a pay cut so the original metal gear solid actors could reprise their role on one occasion) but the japanese actors repraised their roles without a flinch of the guy, that is not cool.

In the Kojima vs Konami feud I side with Kojima 'cause Konami treatment toward its workers was extremely unethical plus they didn't let the game to be completed, but there might be more to the story than we know, Kojima was no saint either, he burned through a lot of money missing deadline after deadline and acting like a loose cannon, the gamble on this game was pretty high, alas a slow development was to be expected 'cause the team was managing all the ports of the game while using their own engine.

[Lennoxb63]

I'm still puzzled as to why some gamers care about who voices who. Voice acting in a game seems like one of the least important things to be upset about from a gamers point of view.

Same mentality towards Japanese dubbed anime shows.

[MWH]

the difference is in the overall hearing experience.

a good voice actor can breath life into a game's character making it a more involving and enjoyable experience. take Dragon Age or Nolan North as Nathan Drake in Uncharted series for an example and then compare it to the first Resident Evil voice acting.

[Lennoxb63]

I game for the actual game. I don't play for the story. Its cool and all, I listen to what's going on and I stay updated on it. But the voice acting isn't going to make a bad game good.

[coolvibu93]

A lot of people can get really invested in a story, and therefore the characters in that story. The voice work by a particular actor can lend a lot of character and personality to those characters.

From my perspective, fully-fleshed out story and characters are important, and that includes the voice actors' work.

[Lennoxb63]

I don't really play the game for the story though. That's why I feel the way I do. If I want to listen to a story, I'll watch tv.

[kraenk12]

Strange idea you have there. Actually voices and sound in general are some of the most important factors in games!

[Lennoxb63]

How good the actual game is is tons more important.

[NarooN]

@Lennox: Implying that sound design isn't an important factor in how good a game is? Come on. Sometimes a character's voice actor can be so good or iconic that they become utterly ubiquitous, and thus essentially BECOMES that character, so it's not a stretch at all to see why fans can be upset when a voice actor is suddenly not there anymore.

To draw a parallel with a different series, it was like when John Chacon wasn't voicing Gabe Logan from Syphon Filter anymore when the fourth game rolled around. Sure, James Arnold Taylor did a great job, but fans stilled missed John Chacon's utterly badass and iconic performances from the first three games to the point where they'd group together to do web-wide searches for the guy to see what happened to him.

[Imalwaysright]

This^^. As long as the voice actors are competent I really do not give a crap who is voicing who. Hearing some people here you would believe that MGS greatness is reduced to the english voice actor and worst these people call themselves MGS fans. As a MGS fan what do I care if it was Hayter or Kiefer that was voicing Snake? I just want to experience the gameplay, the little details and the characters of MGS.

[Death]

As with any relationship, both parties are partially to blame. Kojima was the one responsible for making a game the fans wanted and the fans were very vocal in their support for Hayter. Even if you want to make the claim that you respect Kojima's decision, it wasn't handled professionally with the voice talent or the media. Kojima is done with MGS. Hopefully Konami keeps the legacy alive and does it well. Having Hayter behind any future projects is a good start.

[Motion]

Dude's just being a Hayter.

[cyberwaffles]

meme confirmed

[Baka-akaB]

Like i've said in the past , i've got a maybe different perspective . My first experiences with mgs werent with the english voices , but with a few of the european dubs , and the japanese ones as well .

Which is probably why i'm not that attached to Hayter's voice , having heard others i felt were sometimes worse , or better , or equal and why i'm not feeling that he's an essential component to the franchise , unless i'm missing elements of him helping shape the game in other aspects . For my limited brain , he's just that guy voicing Snake in English , not a voiceover god similar to names often thrown around like Baker or North

I understand that he's been asked about it , but it sad to see such bitterness , when ultimately , as much as it probably hurt , it was Kojima's baby , not his ... whatever input he had pales to the creative aspect Koji had , however much others wanna call it d*ckriding "God Kojima" . Especially knowing that MGS made him famous , not necessarily the other way around , imho .

[Imalwaysright]

No he's never had any input in the character of Snake like Ashley Jonhson had for Ellie in TloU for example.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

"Druckmann described how Johnson’s input had developed the Ellie’s character in directions that he had not anticipated. “There was a moment when Ellie was being pulled from a truck, and Ashley said ‘I feel like I’d hit him, Ellie would do more in this moment, I wouldn’t be so helpless’. Then hit him [I said] and slowly through Ashley’s input Ellie became much more capable than we initially conceived."

Hayter just read a piece of paper and the same is true for the german, spanish... voice actors that voiced Snake.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[cyberwaffles]

Watch Cowboy Bebop. That show demonstrates that a good voice actor can make a character iconic. Spike wouldn't sound right in the English dub if wasn't for Steve Blum. Same thing with Sean Schemmel for Goku. Their voice, tone, inflection, and dialogue play a huge factor in their personality and character.

[Naughty_Cloud]

This is like watching your mom and dad fight. 2 of your favorite people fighting.

[kraenk12]

You lucky boy.

[RoseSapphire]

What a fuckwit. It's simple David. You didn't voice MGSV because the game didn't involve Snake.

[Kryptix]

David voiced Big Boss/Naked Snake in all previous games involving that character and 99% of people didn't complain about him having the same voice as Solid Snake. This is understandable because Solid seemed like a much closer clone than Liquid, in tactics, skill, and others.

You calling David a "f*ckwit" and having no knowledge of the franchise is pretty dumb.

[cyberwaffles]

Hayter didn't voice Big Boss in MGS4. In fact I think Hideo explicitly made sure there was a different voice actor considering that Hayter was voicing Solid (Old) Snake in the same game. He clearly wanted to make a distinction between the character's voices.

[Kryptix]

@cyberwaffles

You're right, I forgot to single MGS 4 out with that very lengthy ending. I was mostly talking about Big Boss as a playable character. In MGS 5, both Big Boss and Solid Snake don't see eye to eye, so they could of used David Hayter once more for the recent one just like MGS 3.

[Thetruth777]

Bruh get out of your feelings and get over it!

[Dirtnapstor]

Don't know if Hayter is making waves or people are stirring the pot....he needs to get over it and move on before he sours his own reputation, if that hasn't been done already.

[Number-Nine]

Kojima and Konami royally fuhked up MGSVs swan song. Hayter, you were better off not being apart of it.

[ArmoredCoreVI]

Kojima was wrong to to this to hayter, borderline disrespectful actually. David Hayter did a great job as snake for the longest and to be dropped abruptly is crappy move by Kojima.

But Karma is a bitch. Coz Kojima ended up having problems with Konami shortly after, getting demoted to contractor...

What goes around comes around.

[cyberwaffles]

Do you realize how many voice actors go into a game for different dubs/translations? The world doesn't revolve around the English language so of course you're going to have different casts when doing different translations. I'm sure anyone in the entertainment industry (especially in animation) go through this a lot and see voice actors coming and going a dime a dozen. Most of them aren't celebrity status either to be honest.

[Eidolon]

Dude, he's done the voices for every game except this one, yes, it is a slap in the face to not even have considered him.

[mochachino]

I thought MGS5 suffered greatly from having Sutherland who sounded like a grizzly alcoholic who lacked confidence instead of the legendary soldier. MGS5 is the only MGS game I didn't finish and just sold. Snake was pretty much a mute, it had almost no story, and when Snake spoke, he sounded like an actor who had no respect for the role and was just doing it for money.

Very refined gameplay but he worst MGS game. Very disappointed with Konami and Kojima.

[P_Bomb]

I've owned and beat all the Metal Gears apart from the Ac!d ones. Even the Gamecube, Gameboy and Rising ones. Still haven't bought MGSV because everything i've read about the story and charachters, from the doctor swerve to the vocal chord parasites and the waste of Volgin etc, sounds terrible.

That criticism falls at the feet of Kojima. It's the story he wanted to tell, when there even is story which i've heard is pretty sparse. Throw in Sutherland who sounds shoehorned into the role, and what's the point? Hayter didn't miss much. Kojima left MGS on a weak note imho, critical acclaim notwithstanding .

[cyberwaffles]

"I thought MGS5 suffered greatly from having Sutherland who sounded like a grizzly alcoholic"

He probably is a grizzly alcoholic, just like the rest of the untalented and overrated Hollywood actors out there. Sorry but I think movie/tv actors are some of the most pretentious people around.

[kraenk12]

Hayter is right in that way that he surely would have been the much better choice for the job!

[BlackTar187]

It's hilarious reading all the comments about kojima fans telling hayter to suck it and just overall crap talking. Yet like 90% of this comment section doesn't even have people saying this. You guys just look like pathetic losers crying about people who aren't even doing what you're complaining about.

[AstroCyborg]

about time somebody came out & told the truth about kojima

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

I don't see why people act like Kojima is some kind of god. Outside of the MGS series he hasn't made a single good game in recent years. And MGS 5 was not all that great. Now that Kojima doesn't have the MGS license let's see what he can do.

[BlackTar187]

lol cause he's only made MGS games in recent years. He has however made other great games. ZoE,Snatcher, PoliceNauts.

Just because he hasn't had the chance to make other types of games due to demand of the MGS franchise doesn't mean that's a knock on him.

[Kryptix]

Some people don't understand that David Hayter IS the voice of Snake, both Big Boss and Solid Snake. That's like Mark Hamill, the iconic voice of animated Joker, being kicked out for someone who has had no interest in the character in the past and sounds very generic or mediocre.

David did an awesome job for both characters in games like Metal Gear Solid 1 and Metal Gear Solid 3. He could of defined Kojima's last MGS game much better.

[Mrveryodd]

Kataku most Likely wont be around for much longer , Hulk Hogan has seen to that .

[mixelon]

Gawker folding wouldn't necessarily mean the end of its component sites, they'd likely sell them on if they needed to make money. Saying that - they're likely to win a lot on appeal anyway.

[mixelon]

Hayters gonna hate.. I would've preferred him returning, but KS did a decent job too.. I'm not really sure why it was even a thing though. Seems odd to switch it up in the final game like that. Regardless of Kojimas ambitions I'm still a little puzzled by his thought process there.

[Bakkies]

According to David Hayter's twitter, he absolutely loves Anita Sarkeesian. His taste in people (and career choices in general) isn't really that wonderful.

[Run_bare]

Kojima is an artist and hayter is a moron. The plot of mgs v is self explanatory, is a different snake with different characteristic and personality.

[Kaneki-Ken]

Yeah tell that to the Japanese voice actor who voice all the snakes, can you? Calling Hayter moron is non sense. Kojima is an artist but a Japanese who doesn't call their worker why he can't continue working on the job anymore is called disrespectful and rude, they should be at shame but Kojima don't give a care and I believe that Konami wasn't fully at fault for their incident, Kojima is no saint. Hayter just wanted to keep on voicing every Snake as Akio Ōtsuka did, if that was case that they needed a different voice actor for the Japanese voice then Akio needed to be replaced aswell but Japanese voice actor doesn't affect his chances of becoming Hollywood. Kojima was more focus on becoming more Hollywood so he hired a Hollywood actor that cost him a huge part of the game budget which shows that he couldn't finish the last chapter, and Snake have barely any dialog to Begin with and the tapes were supposed to be cutscene but instead it was just turn into tapes to save money, Zero original voice didn't replice his role because he was offer too little and Paz as well(a huge part of the budget went into Kiefer) and more.

[IWasHere]

You don't know how much budget went into Kiefer Sutherland. Look at Star Citizen. Many famous actors that would cost many millions although the game "only" has approximately 75 Million US-Dollar.

[Germany7]

How i miss the Metal Gear Solid 4 days...

[DivineAssault]

I still enjoyed the game. Loyalty is important but who knows why all this went down? If he wanted venoms voice to be different, theres nothing that can be done about it.. Hayter is Solid Snake and always will be.. The fact Hayter was in MGS3 does make it stupid to replace him all of a sudden but who knows what the contract situation was? Not as much voice work in 5 so maybe he didnt want to use more of the budget bringing him back to try n make the game as big as can be.. IDK, voice actors arent cheap like everyone thinks but you cant put a price on loyalty either.. Kojima should've kept him but this isnt very mature of him and certainly not the way to go about it.

[tanukisuit]

So much drama in the VG industry...
- David Hayter vs Kojima vs Konami
- Martin O'Donnell vs Bungie
- Steve Valentine vs Naughty Dog/Sony
- Phil Spencer vs Quantum Break fans
- Anita vs everything video games, that doesn't tailor to her own "standards"

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[Yetter]

Please go and do yourself a favor and listen to this podcast. I'd consider the GameInformer podcast 5th to 6th on my list of gaming podcasts to listen to but this was an exceptional episode. Really want to pick MGS and start all over again after hearing it.

[Back-to-Back]

This is one of few reasons why I have refused to play MGS5. Hayter is MGS not this wannabe Kiefer.

[Bismarn]

Not to troll, but I look at all these 500 articles on N4G about Konami and Kojima, and about Kojima visiting other studios like he's the Pope of video games, and about all the esoteric truths found in MGS, etc. But lest we all forget:

Splinter Cell is better. Also much less drama.

[BlackTar187]

ROFL splintercell better? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHA HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H

[Majinzo]

Good

[level 360]

Typical hyped clickbait headlines.

As in any type, place of work-related environments there are personality issues. It's the norm.

Even within anyones' family circle there are constant issues.

[ChuckTheIceMan]

Kojima is a bum! Can't put together a coherent story and he thinks he's the cats ass. He's not FYI.

[Sentient545]

Can Gawker Media just die already?

[HawaiianDreads]

Trying to stay a float I guess.

[MRJefferson]

David hayter is not a god either, he is a good voice actor In MGS1 MGS2 and République but peace walker and mgs4 was terrible, I mostly played mgs3 with japan version because of the voice act. hayter is a a bad screenwriter, director, producer. Kojima will be better without him. MGSV barely feature big boss like a 10 minutes so why the hell need david in the game? Punished Snake is the protagonist with keifer Sutherland and he did a fantastic job. But I think Voice actor like Nolan North and Troy Baker do a better job these days than hayter.