Uncharted 4 to feature stealth aspects from The Last of Us

As studios continue to branch out and develop new experiences and new franchises, it's natural that they take parts from existing brands and place them into new ones. Well, for Naughty Dog, it's the other way around.

[DragonDDark]

It looks freaking great.

[bouzebbal]

i hope they still remain very different games.

[DigitalRaptor]

It looks more than great. It looks masterful.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Aside from certain people leaving the project, The Last of Us and the lessons learned from making that game is the best thing to ever happen to Uncharted 4. So much that they're going all out and making this truly the game to beat.

Yet, they respect what makes Uncharted what it is. They know not to make it unrecognisably dark or too mechanically similar to TLoU, but also know that they have to wrap things up and perhaps explore areas they didn't before. No - this is still an Uncharted game, through and through, but it's enhanced and upgraded in the most amazing of ways. They've improved everything, overhauling systems to truly leverage next-gen technology.

Loving how they've crafted the advanced AI, the dynamic stealth additions, the incredible melee system and traversal mechanics. They've also applied their lessons to the multiplayer too, and it shows. TLoU and UC4 are two of the standout MP games in recent years. Makes me very, very excited for the work that will be going into The Last of Us 2.

[GribbleGrunger]

Read it, bubbled it.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Uncharted 4 will be Naughty Doge's best work yet by applying all the experince they've earned with this series and TLoU.

Now how about bringing stealth back to the multiplayer.

[ShadowKnight]

I know right. Especially since they have the stealth perk in the multiplayer

[sullynathan]

I don't know any third person shooty type game where stealth works well. Even people complained about in MGSO.

[ShadowKnight]

The Last of Us

[sullynathan]

TLOU isn't a stealth game, albeit not a good one.

[akurtz]

if you really believe that, then you must not be good at stealth

[Free_Fro]

I'm actually tired of talking about the game.

I jus' wanna play it. .

May day...
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[angelsx]

Hopefully the single is long enough

[jb227]

That's my only concern, I know it'll be great I just want to be sure that there's a lot of it...UC3 was a little on the short side although for me it was quality back to front so I can't complain to much.

Seems like if it's meant to be paced in combat similarly to TLOU then we may be looking at a 12-15 hour playthrough, then if they kept that dedicated deeper treasure hunting system in place from the announcement and there are a decent handful of dialogue choices there will be a lot of great replay value as well.

[sullynathan]

It will be 6 - 8 hours on normal difficulty like the previous uncharteds. More if you want to find all collectibles or beat it on harder difficulties.

[jb227]

Any source for that or just speculation? Also, I don't see how anyone beat any of the 3 Uncharteds in 6 hours unless they are playing on very easy & absolutely flying through...even then it'd be a stretch...HowLongToBeat.com has UC1 at 8 hours for the main story alone, UC2 at 11 hours & UC3 at 9, and even that is assuming you aren't scouring the environment for collectibles & to just admire the scenery.

Considering the environments in this game are obviously much bigger than anything we've seen before (10x bigger if the devs themselves are to be believed), I highly doubt this will be a 6 hour game for someone's first playthrough.

[sullynathan]

@jb227 I beat all the uncharted games within an 8 hour period. Around 4 - 6 hours the 2nd time around. Why would I expect the 4th entry to be astronomically shorter or longer?
Having larger environments doesn't always attribute to making a game take longer to beat.

Don't take those sites seriously.

[jb227]

I was just using that site as a reference (and I've also typically found their figures to be very accurate in terms of my personal play times), but I've played all 3 around a half dozen times each & I've never completed any of them in 4 hours, even on very easy difficulty...good on you if you can beat them that quick, but even 8 hours for any single UC title on first playthrough would be a very speedy playthrough for me...took me closer to 12 for UC2 & a bit longer when I explored the environments.

I don't necessarily know if Uc4 will be long, but I don't expect it to be a 4 hour game. As far as the larger environments, they take longer to traverse so I'd assume the larger environment can most definitely end up in a longer playtime, may not be a given but it's definitely a logical conclusion. Also there's the treasure hunting and optional side dialogue & living worlds to experience, things that the last games simply didn't have. TLOU took me around 15 hours to beat because I explored every inch & took my time w/ it, and seeing as how this one has a similar design philosophy, I honestly think this game will be the longest of the series yet, but we won't know until it ships really.

[sullynathan]

@jb227 those sites greatly inflate the amount of time it takes to beat a game. I just wander what you were doing in an Uncharted game that would take you 12 hours to beat it, maybe watching cutscenes? I don't count that in terms of how long it takes to beat a game.

TLOU can take twice as long to beat as an Uncharted game because it is slower paced, has more content in its singleplayer and a much longer game. This separates it from Uncharted. Uncharted does not share a lot of the same things TLOU has

[kraenk12]

Except for U3 which was around that mark the games were much longer, especially U2 which was 12-15 hours on harder difficulty.

[DigitalRaptor]

I trust that it will be long enough for the series, perhaps longer by those standards.

My average for all 3 Uncharted games was 10-12 hours. I explored.
I clocked 19 hours, in my first playthrough of The Last of Us.

With the extra gameplay options, and more wide open levels with inspiration taken from TLoU, I think it will sit somewhere on the scale of 12-15 hours, which would be perfect.

[GribbleGrunger]

The singleplayer weighs in at 48gb so we're going to get a pretty big game. I'm guessing around the same length TLOU was with replayability because of branching paths.

You've also got to remember that this game will have the same level of character interactions TLOU did. If you'd never stood still enough in TLOU you would never have heard a pun from Ellie's pun book. If you hadn't stood near the arcade machine you would never have heard Ellie telling you about the game and her friend Riley.

All these little hidden details to find will make replaying the game and choosing a different path really interesting.

[retrogamer09]

I really hope they don't do sections of the game where you have like 3 bullets and you have to beat levels with forced stealth. That's what really turned me off of TLOU. The stealth just didn't appeal to me. Just make it a shoot em up type of game with the options to do the mission stealth or run and gun it.

[SCW1982]

Are you talking about when Joel is hanging upside down? Conserving ammo and being smart about how much resources you use and when you use them is what makes TLOU great.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

I never had that issue. I saved the bullets for wneh the infected spotted me. I used stealth mostly. Playing easier difficulties gives you more bullets also. Harder difficulties you gotta be smart

[jb227]

I highly doubt they will go that route for UC4...the ammo was scarce in TLOU for a story reason, and conversely the ammo in Uc4 would be plentiful considering you are fighting highly trained & heavily armed mercenaries...more ammo will always just be a kill away.

TLOU never had any forced stealth sections so it seems to me like what they are saying is that stealth is a more viable option this time around, something you can do if you choose, and it'll be reminiscent to TLOU in the way it's utilized.

I don't think you have to worry, from everything that's been shown, this is still an Uncharted game through & through, just embellished by some of the better mechanics from TLOU that may fit.

[Sparta07]

@ retro, TLOU is a survival horror and uncharted is not.
That was the point of TLOU you had to be smart when to use ammo.
can't wait for uncharted, they already have my money. May can't come soon enough

[Imalwaysright]

I wouldn't call TloU a survival horror. There is no horror in it.

[Sparta07]

@ imalwaysright, then what would you call it!? Of course is horror. Is almost like resident evil except is not zombies your fighting against. Your fighting against different types of infected

[Imalwaysright]

I would call it survival action adventure game. There is absolutely nothing horrific in the game from atmosphere to the infected. RE up until RE5 had creepy and opressive atmosphere, something that I never experienced in TloU.

[one2thr]

@Imalwaysright

Horror

noun  hor·ror\ ˈhȯr-ər,ˈhär-\

: a very strong feeling of fear, dread, and shock

: the quality of something that causes feelings of fear, dread, and shock : the horrible or shocking quality or character of something

: something that causes feelings of fear, dread, and shock : something that is shocking and horrible

Clickers, and the part where you play as Ellie in the restaurant, and Boomers on grounded.(There are way more horrific moments) plus no listening perk, had me on edge.

The Last of Us, definitely has horror in it.

[Imalwaysright]

Nothing scary about the clickers and the Ellie segment. Funny how my comment gets 8 disagrees but comment #9.1.1 on this thread gets 9 agrees for saying the same exact thing. This website is hilarious.

[chrisx]

Awesome stuff

[BosSSyndrome]

Well tlou has some of the best stealth in gaming, so cant really say im opposed at all.

[sullynathan]

"l tlou has some of the best stealth in gaming" Are you serious? How many stealth games have you played?

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

He is right. Stealth in TLoU was realistic and well done, and that was ND's first attempt at it. A sequel should do even better and Uncharted can borrow some too even though it's had stealth before

[sullynathan]

@kurapika stealth in TLOU is anything but realistic. Real life has no "hearing mode", qtes or take one button take downs.

[BEASELY]

Awesome! I usually play any game stealthily that allows it.

I played Watch Dogs as a stealth game with cover switch/silenced pistol/takedowns and it made it 10x more fun. Same with Far Cry and all of the Hitmans/Metal Gears, of course. TLOU was a stealth game for me.

[sullynathan]

This is a bad thing. Stealth aspects of TLOU were one of its weaker elements and stealth was never properly implemented into Uncharted. I hope they get it well this time or it better be incredibly minimalistic because that sounds stupid.

[Sparta07]

@ sully, are you serious? The Stealth aspects of TLOU was one of the BEST. Is what made TLOU, like I said above it was a survival horror game. Not a run and gun action game like uncharted.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Not horror, only survival which is why TLoU has stealth gameplay, and it was good. Not sure why he thinks it was bad.

[sullynathan]

How many stealth games have you actually played when you make this claim that TLOU has one of the best stealth?
Stop this crap.

[Sparta07]

It was horror to me. Those clickers scared the poop out of me!! Lol

@ sully I played plenty of stealth games metal gear, splinter cell etc. TLOU is one of the best. Maybe is was just to hard for you. Maybe you too used to running and gunning type of game.

[UnHoly_One]

Thank you Sully. I agree completely.

[mayberry]

This is exactly why Sony has always been smart by taking chances with alot of big budget first-party titles. It allows other titles from other developers to benifit from the expensive engine development costs of launch titles, even IF those titles didn't sell well. They also farm out dev help to other studios to tweak their games. Everyone in the "Sony" family wins eventually. In this case, ND benefits from their own previous work. I love that Until Dawn is using the Killzone engine.

[Majister-Ludi]

Going through reading the comments. Sully had some things to say that weren't glowing with admiration and racked up a whopping 104 disagrees and 2 agrees. N4g takes its uncharted love serious lol. Hopefully they learn from TLOU and tone down nates witty banter. Looking forward to it regardless.

[kraenk12]

That's exactly what makes Nate himself and the game so fun, his sarcasm and cynical comments. they woukd be stupid to turn it down. That said I'm pretty sure the game will get a darker tone all in all.

[UnHoly_One]

Oh no don't do this Naughty Dog. :(

Guess this won't be one I'm buying right away at launch now.

TLOU was terrible, please don't ruin Uncharted with that style of gameplay!!

[kraenk12]

Did you even read the article?! You will have a choice his you want to play it!