How I felt after an entire day of vr

"..disorientated, a touch nauseous, and distinctly headachey. After five hours I felt like I needed a lie-down in a dark room."

[ninsigma]

I think it's safe to say that spending 5 hours on something like vr when you're not used to it is not a good idea. I'll definitely be playing it only a bit at a time when I get it.

[ArchangelMike]

Yeah, I think even Shuhei said they want shorter experiences to start with. I tried EvE:VR on the Occulus rift. It was for only 3 minutes, but when I took the headset off I was noticeably disoriented. The attendant had to lead me off the demo station.

So yeah, pace yourself.

[ninsigma]

Damn lol
I used the Google cardboard at work one day and I felt a bid odd for the rest of the day. I think the bad quality 360 view youtube video really did me in lol

[Goldby]

i wanna see Adverts for these things with the humor behind the message.

Oculus Rift advert by Christopher Walken : Walk Much?

PSVR advert by Charlie Murphy : Darkness!

HTC ViveAdvert by William Shatner : Theres... Someone in the room. some... THING!

Samsung Gear fet psy - just doing the gangnam style dance with the HMD on.

and.... ACTION!

[UnHoly_One]

So many people are going to get sick, hurt themselves, and/or break things in their house when this launches.

It's going to be like when the Wii first launched and there were videos of people throwing their wiimote through the TV or shattering light fixtures.

With the rise of smart phones in the years since then, there should be even more videos popping up.

[Kidmyst]

I used a Roller Coaster app on Google Cardboard and I had to adjust my balance but only used it for short times. I put it on my 5 year old who laughed as I had to keep him from falling over. I am waiting for the videos and reports of people crashing into things, knocking their TV's over or something, similar things to when the Wiimote was being through about rooms.

[Perjoss]

"HTC ViveAdvert by William Shatner : Theres... Someone in the room. some... THING! "

haha!

[Death]

Until Dawn looks to be 2 hours long. It's comprised of 7 levels at 20 minutes each if reports are true.

[Orbilator]

not something i noticed on any version of the rift I've been privileged to use., did feel a little motion sickness at the begining. But never and headaches. PSVR I had a shot of for a far few hours and it was all good. Maybe some of us are gonna be like that and maybe some of us are just gonna need to get used to it. You know its like those 3d stereoscopic pictures you have to squint your eyes to see, I always pickd them up really quickly, some people still struggle.

[ninsigma]

Yeah definitely. It'll effect some more than others. I don't think it would be a good idea for everyone to use it for hours the first time they use it just to find out though xD

[SniperControl]

Had my DK2 for 19 months now, at first it made me green to the stomach, especially on coaster demos, however, now i dont feel anything, the human body will adapt, i can easily spend a couple of hours in Elite Dangerous in VR.

[DragonDDark]

Last I heard, There is a treatment for people with stress using VR to make them feel better.

[ThunderPulse]

I'm going to push the limits and become one with VR.

[boing1]

Same here. I will wear it until I puke.

[MadMax]

Lawnmowerman!

[tanukisuit]

You shall transcend and be "The One!"

[MRMagoo123]

I have spent about 4 to 5 hours straight using my gear VR and it didn't do anything to me besides get me more excited about the psvr.

[DanteVFenris666]

No, five hours playing video games is not a good idea lol. I do it once in a while but in general your life should be productive enough where that opportunity doesn't arise often.

[ThunderPulse]

You must have so many patents to your name and your employer probably has you as best employee ever.

[Derpy]

Not too long ago I was pretty mobbed for posting VR could have this type off effect on people. I wasn't even saying it would for sure, just that it could. I think people would be wise to set their enthusiasm aside and find out if VR Is really for them before spending all that money. For me it's not, because because I don't want anything that turns my gaming into work and because I don't feel enough study has gone into VR health wise. Of course it's their money so it's no skin off my nose, but there was no need for people to get hostile because I recommended they do their homework before splurging $400+.

[G20WLY]

Well, I'm glad you got that off your chest. :)

[Neonridr]

needless to say that the package should come with a *

*Barf Bag not included

I like to consider myself pretty good with motion, heights and all that. But I have a feeling after using this thing for any length of time early on, I will be probably be sick.. lol

[AgentSmithPS4]

Even the real world can make you feel weird (temporarily), I rarely go to the beach but when I did I used a body board for many hours straight, when I got home I felt like I was still moving in the ocean.

I'll be ready with ginger pills (the edible root), dramamine (or whatever 'simulator sickness' med they recommend) just in case. I adapt by the next day so it's not a big deal for me or anyone else to take something for a short time.

[Pongwater]

I have a friend who can't play most first person shooters because he gets motion sickness. I wonder if he ever considered writing an article about it...

[ArchangelMike]

My wife can't watch me play FPS games because it causes her to get motion sick. I thank God everyday I don't have that condition.

[DanteVFenris666]

@archangelMike the thing is most scenarios like that are more often then not psychological conditions rather than actual conditions. Anxiety, a bias, a placebo effect. If that was true then she probably wouldn't be able to drive either. If that is true then we are probably getting into a actual condition. I lot of people that claim these effects just so happen to really hate video games. Surprisingly having a negative bias in something will produce a lot of negative effects just because you believe it to be negative.

Like for example I never get motion sickness except if Im on a empty stomach and not in a front seat. Its too niche to be biologically related. Its just I believe I get sick under those conditions so i do.

[Dark_king]

@DanteVFenris666 "I never get motion sickness except if Im on a empty stomach and not in a front seat. Its too niche to be biologically related"

Actually I get motion sickness from cars all the time but in the back seat on an empty stomach is when its the worse.Not sure why the empty stomach effects it though the back seat tends to wobble more then the front so that makes it worse.

Also I have never got motion sickness from a game, plane, helicopter, skydiving are bungee jumping just cars strange aint it.

[Why o why]

Dark king

I suffer from motion sickness if im not the driver and try to read something at the same time... ...

Quake engine used to make my mate sick

[Orbilator]

Have you ever got drunk and put a vr headset on ? Its VERY weird indeed, but most enjoyable, wonder how the drunk gta 4 bit would be under vr whilt being drunk lmfao

[ColonelHugh]

Might want to take care with drinking and VRing. You wouldn't want to get real sick and forget where you are, puking all over your controller.

Moderation is key, but I'll likely be experimenting quite a bit. I think slow, chill games will resonate well to such effect compared to something akin to P.T.

[LamerTamer]

I am going to try it for sure. I can also imagine what it would be like to smoke some weed and do VR. Not that I have ever done anything like that, VR isn't out yet...

[UltraNova]

@Agent

"I'll be ready with ginger pills (the edible root), dramamine (or whatever 'simulator sickness' med they recommend) just in case. I adapt by the next day so it's not a big deal for me or anyone else to take something for a short time."

The remedy in this case is called sleep...

[Perjoss]

Skating has the same effect, I've skated before for quite a few hours and your feet and legs kind of forget how to walk, it takes quite a few strides to get back into it again, hah!

[garrettbobbyferguson]

There's a huge difference between being in the water and being in a situation where your brain and your body are disconnected visually.

[ironmonkey]

same feeling like being on a boat all day then you step onto dry land that feeling? then close your eyes in the shower and it still feels like its rocking.

[Immorals]

I get my sea legs easily, hopefully same goes for adjusting to VR!

[ColonelHugh]

From the article:
"I discovered that I was constantly in a state of physical stress: my heart rate was over 100 the entire time."

More like a constant state of E-X-C-I-T-E-M-E-N-T!

Really, though, as someone who had real bad car sickness and defeated it, it is something you can overcome. Motion sickness for me was conquered in one dedicated year (from a driving job requiring me to look at paperwork at night while in the car).

As Agent Smith recommended, there are herbs and nutrients that counter these kinds of sickness. Even ginger ale helps, so long as it uses actual ginger.

[mochachino]

So as fun as a rollercoster. Awesome.

[TwilightSparkle]

I guess it will take some time getting used to. Hopefully no gets seizures. Everyone is different. Its just like when the 3ds came out alot of people got sick but it still sold well.

[nitus10]

When the PS3 or PS4 starts up you do get a warning about possible issues with playing games. In the next PS4 update there will be a warning pertaining to VR usage as well.

It must be noted that only a very small percentage of users will have issues however for legal reasons a warning must be given.

Of course you can go overboard on warnings like some packets of nuts with the warning "Contents contains nut products" - I'm not joking. What next coffee cups with "Warning contents may be hot" - oh wait!

[Automatic79]

I will be waiting a year on the side lines for real world impressions. Like any new product the first 6 months gives a clear picture of the effects.

[nitus10]

Personally I would buy day one after a reasonable hands on demo of the product of course.

Since I never do pre-orders it is quite likely that the PSVR would be rather difficult to get when it ships. Still I don't mind the wait.

[UltraNova]

Same here, I need to try it first.. no matter how many positive hands-on, previews, reviews and the like come out they'd never convince me to invest in something that has to be experienced in person.

I really wanted to buy PSVR day 1 but now that the excitement of recent announcements has settled I'll wait until I get the chance to try it first then decide.

[Antnee534]

I bet gamestop and best buys will have demo units eventually lol

[ShadowKnight]

PSVR and the new PS4 will be awesome together.

http://n4g.com/news/1880280...

[DashArrivals]

TRAIN YOUR BRAIN. I can't just get into a racing car and get someone to drive me around real fast and expect to get used to it asap. Eventually, I suspect, these feelings will pass.

[user6666047]

I think with VR it's going to be like learning how to play games all over again. It'll take a bit of time but you'll get there.

[s45gr32]

This doesn't sound good

[DashArrivals]

That's ok. Just sit back and clutch your knitting needles and watch the real world enjoy new tech and have their brains and bodies get used to it while enjoying themselves.

[s45gr32]

I am going to try it, but it won't be the psvr or Oculus Rift or Vive. I will try VR at the VR starcade. It will only be for an hour or 2 now.....

[Gazondaily]

Don't worry. Its not VRs fault. Its your body's fault.

[mayberry]

My first job was a state government mail sorter/deliverer, up and down elevators all day. Didn't think I could hang after my first week, my symptoms were carbon copy of the article writer. I even had bouts of vertigo on my weekend. After second week...nothing...The body adapts if you are strong enough with no health issues is my point. Eat your veggies my fellow VR adopters! And also take it easy the first couple weeks !

[The_Truth_24_7]

So 5 hours = an entire day? GTFO!

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

Hahaha i was thinking the same thing... maybe thats his "office hours" making it his "whole day" either way 5 hours straight up is still stupid in a way when you are not use to it.

[boodi]

in the beginning some hours but then people will spend days in virtual stations when they'll be available , full software and full optionals..
just not my cup of tea ..
i prefer the real world anyday

[D-riders]

logic. The problem with common sense is it isn't that common

[ShadowKnight]

seeing as how ive used the dk2 for a while and never felt these symptoms, ill just assume its a “some people have it, some dont” kind of thing. i hope they improve on what is making others sick. i imagine its not something that happens while playing and is actually the shock of going from vr to taking the headset off and being disoriented.

[Death]

Everyone is susceptible to the effect VR has, but in different amounts. A lot of it has to do with your inner ear. When your eyes see movement that your inner ear/body can't feel it causes disorientation. In theory if you are one of those susceptible to motion sickness, VR will have a bigger impact on you. You can train your body to overcome sensory conflict, but it's not clear if this is a good idea and long term affects aren't known at this time.

When the first kid throws up using VR hits the news it will be safe to say parents will be trying to get VR banned. This is going to have an impact on mass market sales on all platforms. As a parent I'm not sure I would let my younger child use VR.

@Shadow,
I agree it would be ridiculous for parents to do this, but we've seen it in the past. If people were more responsible for their actions we would all be better off. Sadly it's easier to blame others for our short comings and failures.

[ShadowKnight]

Banned? More like it shouldn't be allowed for younger children or people who get motion sickness shouldn't play it. Play it at your own risk. Banned lol

[Pullmywaffle]

You copied that whole statement directly from a comment in their comment section.

[ShadowKnight]

I forgot to quote it. If you notice there's quotes in the sentence If you look at my comment history I quote other people opinions from different sites including my friends sometimes. By the way I'm friends with some of the users on that site. Just ask them. And if you notice I'm a member on that site as well my name is a little different though. And one more thing looking at your comment history you sound so familiar. Since you just signed up a few days ago lol

[Kojjikaneshiro]

No thank you,i dont wanna see what the prolonged effects will look like.Youre eyesight will be affected.Ill wait a very long time for all the guinea pigs to try it
In the mean time ill stick to my controller and console.In this law suit happy society we live in i see alot of legal issues on the horizon.

[Mr Lahey]

Psychedelics and VR! Oh, imagine the possibilities, lol!

[PurpHerbison]

That was how I felt after 30 minutes of Planetside 2 on PS4 and it wasn't even VR.

[acemonkey]

ive been saying motion sickness and vertigo forever now. got 30 disagrees in 3secs lol...now everyone else is saying you can get sick

[PurpHerbison]

The thing that I am curious about is how well it runs and what the clarity of it is when you actually have the headset on. Anything running under par will make you sick i'd imagine and if the image isn't crystal clear I bet that would play a roll as well.

[iceman06]

Like most issues with motion sickness, it won't be universal. There will be some that are effected to the point that they can't use it. Then, there will be some that won't really feel it. I'm sure there will be an adaptation period. (I have that after playing racing games for long periods of time) But, once again, I doubt it will be a long lasting, universal issue. Either your brain will adapt or you just won't be able to handle it. The latter likely being a small portion of people. I'm willing to bet that there is even some raw data from play testing. Otherwise, these companies are wasting hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D, production, and promotion. (which could be possible anyway, depending on how VR takes off)

[brianunfried]

I remember back in the 90s people were experiencing vertigo and flashbacks after using VR. Haven't heard much about that with this new generation of VR.

[EazyC]

I've got that thing where I literally can't look at a phone screen for more than 10 seconds in a moving car, or really focus my vision on anything (eg look through a bag for something). I hope I don't feel the same way using this.

[MRJefferson]

Hmmm I know it just as I said there has to be some side effect of psvr.

[roguedragon1]

I tried on someone else's prescription glasses once and now I also have to wear glasses and walk with a limp.

[welly300]

I get car sick so my chances of up chucking is high. But I'm still getting Playstation vr but I think they should bundle a bucket.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I threw up on the boobs of the girl in Porn SimulatorVR. She was not happy.

[Donnywho]

I was going to comment something, but then I saw this one and I lost my train of thought.

[chaosx]

humans don't like discomfort , if this product makes them feel a negative effect on its first few uses , it will be cast aside. This isn't Sonys first attempt at this type of insulted viewing world , but it won't take off. They will use the PS brand to sell as many of this product as they can so they can recoup the most R& D money they can .

If your product brand is more powerful than the company brand use it to sell everything you can . I am still waiting for the PS projector i saw online a few months ago to hit the shelves.

[Pullmywaffle]

Double whammy on not trusting the source, as it comes from kotaku AND keza. She's a well documented nintendo lifer, you'd think she'd be ok with VR as she probably spent the better part of her childhood with a virtual boy strapped on.

[tweet75]

isn't the standard recommended break time 15 minutes for hour of gameplay in any format?

[nyzma23]

i'm not gonna hurt my eye by put screen so close to my retina for sake of gimmick

[dmonee]

I can't wait to spank it while watching some vr adult entertainment.... Imagine working the baloney, then you take the headset off and your wife is standing there with her arms crossed, shaking her head...

[Antnee534]

So I had a chance to play with oculus back in 2014 so I know awhile ago but it was really awesome I got to play the game grave I think. The game was a horror game where you just survive then a zombie runs and trust to kill u. Game was awesome very basic but I ran around looking all about and its very imersive especially in fps games. When the demo was done I was the only player to survive the night, bit I took the helmet off and its was weird trying to readjust my eyes. That was just a small taste and I'm now excited to get psvr this year and maybe next year an coulus or vive

[II__BONE__II]

I still think when these VR's get released to the masses. Some idiot kid is going to be messing around with a VR Headset on and trip and fall putting his head through the TV and then the Parents suing the maker of the Headset.
Their argument will be,..."He could not see where he was going and did not know where he was in the room Etc Etc...Because the headset obstructed his view of the real world and he tripped over the coffee table and fell through the TV.Therefore we want 300 million dollars."
Unless the makers of the VR Headsets already have TOS were they are not responsible for any injuries caused by using the VR could spell the end of VR.
I can't see them getting away with "Use at your own risk" The VR Headset is completely shielding you from seeing anything in the room that could potentially harm you.
So I don't know how they are going to cover this.
I as an adult know I will use it responsibly but I know kids wont.