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Playstation 4 VR Move And Camera Benefits Kinect 2 & Hololens On Xbox One Future

Thekingslayer.com: Sony has set a price point for the Playstation 4 VR. Many across the gaming sphere from gamers to industry pros believe Sony has hit VR out the park. In October 2016 both the Playstation Move and Camera take center stage for VR. Microsoft's Xbox One Kinect and Hololens will now benefit from Playstation 4 VR adoption. The Playstation 4 camera, and move controllers are at palatable price points, along with Microsoft Kinect for Xbox One. Now, the argument against motion gaming goes out the window. It will be interesting to see how those in the media and others supporting VR view motion control going forward. Make no mistake Playstation 4 VR is bringing motion control gaming back...

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Overload3370d ago (Edited 3370d ago )

Not really.

- Kinect is not VR, VR has games people want to play.

- The consumer version of Hololens has been delayed indefinitely.
http://www.businessinsider....

- If VR is the "big thing" this holiday the Xbox One is going to get heavily outsold worldwide, more than they already are.

PSVR doesn't benefit Xbox at all.

DragonDDark3370d ago

Yeah... it's a weird title lol

darthv723370d ago

Those xb1 people who have kinect may entice MS to releade a cost effective HMD. It could happen.

And the ps4 camera is very much like the original kinect in design and function (dual lenses) and its increase in popularity could help MS if (like I said above) enough xb1 users say "hey we want our own VR".

There has to be some optimism. And wouldn't it be cool if both psn and xbl coexist not just in online gaming but in online VR experiences. No doubt on the PC there will be vive and oculus users gaming in harmony... why not ps4 & xb1?

FITgamer3370d ago (Edited 3370d ago )

Not only that you could buy PSVR for yourself and two friends/family members and still come in under the price of Hololens alone. There are people saying VR will be niche, Hololens will be even more so, especially on consoles.

Hololens also is not a piece of tech developed for gaming, gaming is secondary. I'd imagine it will have very little dev support as far as gaming is concerned.

ArchangelMike3370d ago

If anything PSVR might very well be the final nail in Xbox's coffin. Microsoft are quietly trying to take it out to pasture becssue they know they are losing profits to Sony. There's no way they are going to start investing in more Kinect games - they already unbundled kinect because it was becoming a liability.

Hololens on the other hand is not going to be ready for another 5 years http://www.techinsider.io/n... by which time Sony would be getting ready to release the PS5 and PSVR2.

The success of the PS4 and the impending success of PSVR is a disaster for Xbox, it doesn't benefit them at all. The only benefit is that now XboxOne exclusive will be on Windows10 platforms. But is that a benefit?

Khaotic3370d ago

Wow you're a new type of fanboy. The prophecy of doom fanboy has arisen

ScorpiusX3370d ago

Why they can just up the Ante ON their partnership deals w/ Rift or HTC VIVE. till Hololens been made consumer ready.

donthate3369d ago

That is likely what MS will. Keep in mind that Oculus Rift comes with a Xbox One controller, doesn't support Mac's. MS sits on the board of Facebook and have a long history of partnership.

VR isn't some kind of magical technology that nobody else possess especially on the hardware front. We already know of HTC Vive/Valve that has no history with VR compared to Sony/Oculus and is still able to deliver a quality headset.

This isn't like Kinect where so much had to be figured out in different disciplines, everything from human physiology, sound to 3D tracking.

My point is, if MS wanted to they can come with VR, but I think they would rather just have it on PC were the experience is more suitable and sit back and watch the market. If it a success and starts to get quality content and longevity, MS can introduce a newer upgraded Xbox One that can handle VR properly and relaunch.

Fatal-Aim3369d ago (Edited 3369d ago )

This article is stupid. Kinect isn't even 1 to 1, meaning the latency is pretty bad for hardcore games while PSVR is the complete opposite.

Kinect doesn't trick the subconscious into believing the world around you is real even though you know it isn't. PSVR does.

Kinect can't play other games from the system other than Kinect games. PSVR does.

And for the record, you don't NEED the Move controllers to make PSVR work. Some experiences can be had solely with the headset and the majority of them can be had with the DualShock 4 because it has a light bar/PlayStation Move feature built directly into it.

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crazychris41243370d ago (Edited 3370d ago )

What is this author smoking?? First of all Kinect 2 is getting very few games. Microsoft knows its no longer the future of gaming or profitable and is giving it a quiet death. No way will they invest millions in developing games when they know they won't make a profit. 2nd of all, Hololens is for corporations and governments. Real estate, construction, entertainment, military, medical and much more. There is a lot of potential and big money to be made if they support it right. Its thousands of dollars which is out of reach for 99% of us on this site but to these businesses and governments its a drop in the bucket. Gaming isnt even close to being a priority for years. Lastly, Microsoft doesnt benefit from PSVR at all.

AR is the future but not for a while. You probably wont see an affordable consumer model this decade. By then we will be in the next generation of consoles.

mochachino3370d ago

Get over it, Kinect is dead. It never worked properly. It was as functional as a d-pad.

Khaotic3370d ago

My connect works great for voice commands but I hadn't used it for anything else. I use the voice commands every day so maybe Xbox would be better of with a built in mic

donthate3369d ago

The d-pad worked on the NES and SNES era for over a decade and was the main input method for video games that entire period. Heck, it is still used today for many types of games....

So you are trying to say that Kinect is extremely useful?

:D

ji32003370d ago (Edited 3370d ago )

Hololense is selling to developer(not a game developer) for over $3000 right now for prototype version. so its not for games and its not a VR. google it if you dont believe me

Kingoftherodeo3370d ago

i think what the author is trying to say is. kinect 2 might have a second life just like the ps camera and ps move. look at all the people running to buy them while they are still cheap. kinect 2 is better than ps camera and move. so its only natural to assume if kinect 2 will be a needed accessory for AR then its likely to get a second life. but unlike vr , hololens aren't built for gaming first there for this technology isn't a gimmick for gaming. Vr is banking on being the future but so far most of the games look cartoony, aimed for kids or a bunch of horror games.

XanderZane3370d ago

Kinect 2 was made purposely for the Hololens. The problem is Microsoft didn't know how long it was going to take to bring the Hololens to market. The Hololens dev kits are $3000. Not sure how much the PSVR Dev kits are. Hololens most likely won't be ready for a couple years though. Microsoft is selling them to game and application developers all over the world. Two years from now we'll be seeing the results, I'm sure. This is actually pretty smart move, because Microsoft gets to sit back and see if VR becomes a big success or a total failure over the next couple of years without have to release anything to market. If it's a success, they can release something that's better then what's on the market. So we'll see what happen at the end of the year with PSVR.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain7d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb19816d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK5d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts5d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK5d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT8d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits8d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel18d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic8d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN8d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel17d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica8d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz1498d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga7d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania8d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts8d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning778d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning778d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts8d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning778d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb7d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow8d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor8d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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True Alien Isolation VR is finally here with immersive motion controls and much more

Alien Isolation Grand Mother VR is an all new virtual reality experience for Creative Assembly’s best ever horror game.

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DivineHand12510d ago

I played through most of the PS4 version of the game but stopped because another game came out. I bought it last year for PC with the intention of using the VR mod but haven't gotten around to setting it up. I am glad I waited.

Neonridr9d ago

Great game, even better in VR. A little drawn out by the end, but I hope we see CA do something a little different with the sequel.

OtterX9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Sweet. I also rebought this game on Steam for the purpose of VR. I'll have to give it another shot w full immersive controls. I had only tried it out briefly before.

It's funny this was never officially released at retail as a VR game, bc it feels so perfect for it!